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Jul 30 05:25:02 <zeroedout> also posted this in #openmoko but, on the latest shr unstable it's great that I can export contacts to sim, but it's only one by one &_&. How can I export everything?
Jul 30 08:13:18 <mrmoku> GNUtoo|laptop: (use cases) dunno... we should let morphis take a look
Jul 30 09:16:54 <pabs3> something to package for OE perhaps: http://bugs.debian.org/568826
Jul 30 09:17:29 <pabs3> https://www.codeaurora.org/contribute/projects/xwinp
Jul 30 09:53:35 <[Rui]> pabs3: ? 
Jul 30 09:53:46 <[Rui]> xorg is already in oe for quite some time
Jul 30 10:11:36 <pabs3> [Rui]: this is open drivers (inc 3D IIRC) for a qualcomm chipset
Jul 30 10:12:11 <[Rui]> oh
Jul 30 10:12:17 <GNUtoo|oeee> pabs3, ah there are free 3d drivers now?
Jul 30 10:12:32 <GNUtoo|oeee> I tought kernel was free but was a pass-trough
Jul 30 10:12:45 <GNUtoo|oeee> with proprietary userland part
Jul 30 10:12:51 <GNUtoo|oeee> that was the real driver
Jul 30 10:13:19 <pabs3> not announced, but I got the impression that yes there is or will be free 3D. I'll try to clarify that later today
Jul 30 10:13:44 <GNUtoo|oeee> will be
Jul 30 10:13:51 <GNUtoo|oeee> maybe in a loong time
Jul 30 10:14:23 <GNUtoo|oeee> but once the first vendor publish his driver that will give him a huge competitive advantage
Jul 30 10:14:30 <GNUtoo|oeee> so the other should follow
Jul 30 10:16:22 <pabs3> indeed
Jul 30 10:19:16 <pabs3> there are some things to work on before it can be announced though
Jul 30 10:33:02 <persia> pabs3: So, the information I received was that there was some code that could be made available for the z160 and z180 drivers.
Jul 30 10:33:52 <persia> I have yet to see that code, for 3D, but it's a different IP path than the libz160 folk usually try to work around.
Jul 30 10:34:25 <pabs3> GNUtoo|oeee, [Rui]: ^
Jul 30 10:35:15 <persia> Note that I'm operating on hearsay, so things like timing and details are likely to be somewhere in between "fuzzy" and "unknowable" at this point.
Jul 30 10:36:50 <persia> I'm also not certain that any given implementation of the z160 or z180 would be compatible with such drivers once they are available.
Jul 30 13:40:34 <angelox|n900> hi everyone
Jul 30 13:52:12 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi
Jul 30 14:07:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> Weiss, hi
Jul 30 14:13:29 <gkwhc> hi, is there a startup script in SHR? i'd like to automatically rotate the screen with xrandr -o right
Jul 30 14:14:07 <dos1> gkwhc: look at /etc/Xsession.d/ IIRC
Jul 30 14:14:56 <gkwhc> dos1: thanks ill give that a try
Jul 30 14:17:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> your device is an openmoko device I guess
Jul 30 14:29:26 <gkwhc> dos1: nope the script didnt have any effects...
Jul 30 14:30:26 <gkwhc> how about a login script? is there one in linux?
Jul 30 14:33:01 <angelox|n900> i'd try change some script at /etc/init.d adding that function
Jul 30 14:33:20 <angelox|n900> but i'm not sure
Jul 30 14:34:59 <DocScrutinizer> etc/init.d quite probably is pre- and unrelated to X server startup. without X running rotating it will be hard
Jul 30 14:37:32 <gkwhc> yes! i got it to work for post-startup..so i put it in ~/.profile
Jul 30 14:38:44 <DocScrutinizer> .profile only gets started for xterm?
Jul 30 14:39:21 <DocScrutinizer> or is the desktop using a shell to startup things?
Jul 30 14:40:15 <gkwhc> according to http://beowulf.pppl.gov/ws3/logins.html, its used to startup things after login
Jul 30 14:40:41 <DocScrutinizer> AIUI with placing xrandr to .profile, your screen will rotate on you clicking on xterm icon
Jul 30 14:40:48 <angelox|n900> i ever used init.d btw,but ever the script that launches the wm
Jul 30 14:42:41 <gkwhc> is it possible to change the lock screen wallpaper?
Jul 30 16:25:22 <GNUtoo|laptop> gkwhc, how did you fail for the Xserver script?
Jul 30 16:55:34 <angelox|laptop> GNUtoo|laptop: Hi
Jul 30 16:55:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi
Jul 30 16:57:15 <angelox|laptop> would you have recent new zImage-kexecboot-nokia900.bin to i test? That one you gave me isn't hardware-working friendly :) or can i build one? Using which OE'sl repo?
Jul 30 16:57:22 <angelox|laptop> s/recent new/recent/
Jul 30 16:57:23 <apt> angelox|laptop meant: would you have recent zImage-kexecboot-nokia900.bin to i test? That one you gave me isn't hardware-working friendly :) or can i build one? Using which OE'sl repo?
Jul 30 17:08:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> hmmm
Jul 30 17:08:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've no more space to build
Jul 30 17:08:43 <GNUtoo|laptop> I must make some space
Jul 30 17:10:08 <angelox|laptop> hmm
Jul 30 17:10:19 <GNUtoo|laptop> I can make some space if you want
Jul 30 17:10:29 <GNUtoo|laptop> but it won't be more recent than the one you have
Jul 30 17:10:35 <GNUtoo|laptop> I guess it wasn't updated in oe
Jul 30 17:10:47 <GNUtoo|laptop> what's your problem exactly?
Jul 30 17:11:27 <angelox|laptop> do you remember? lock button,camera,camera button,keypad doesn't work booting maemo
Jul 30 17:11:34 <GNUtoo|laptop> yes 
Jul 30 17:11:36 <GNUtoo|laptop> ok
Jul 30 17:11:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> but the newer version won't change that
Jul 30 17:11:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> since...there is no newer version
Jul 30 17:11:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> I can ask tough
Jul 30 17:12:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> for how to pass atags
Jul 30 17:12:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> with kexecboot
Jul 30 17:12:37 <angelox|laptop> but... it works fine with you isn't ?
Jul 30 17:12:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> I've no idea
Jul 30 17:12:53 <GNUtoo|laptop> I must test
Jul 30 17:13:09 <angelox|laptop> so you don't use too much maemo
Jul 30 17:13:42 <GNUtoo|laptop> no
Jul 30 17:13:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> I never use it
Jul 30 17:13:50 <GNUtoo|laptop> I reflashed it for you
Jul 30 17:13:55 <GNUtoo|laptop> for making kexecboot
Jul 30 17:14:43 <angelox|laptop> ah ok
Jul 30 17:17:51 <angelox|laptop> hmm 
Jul 30 17:17:55 <angelox|laptop> i don't know what to do
Jul 30 17:18:13 <angelox|laptop> i need maemo because i like it, and i need shr because i like it too
Jul 30 17:22:46 <angelox|laptop> and flashing directly zImage-2.6.28-maemo42 (not a fiasco/found in /boot/) works :\
Jul 30 17:23:06 <angelox|laptop> i'll bbl!
Jul 30 20:07:39 <antrik> gkwhc: you can probably specify the initial screen orientation in xorg.conf...
Jul 30 21:40:54 <angelox|laptop> which ones fso packages are needed to,at least,start a call( i don't need voice right now ) on N900
Jul 30 21:40:55 <angelox|laptop> ?
Jul 30 23:32:32 <gkwhc> antrik: i tried that, but it didnt work. so i had to put it in ~/.profile
Jul 30 23:33:04 <gkwhc> angelox|laptop: you can try dialer, its from SHR. there's also zhone.
Jul 30 23:34:25 <antrik> gkwhc: he asked about FSO (the middleware), not about frontends. frontends is actually what he wants to work on (Aurora specifically)
Jul 30 23:35:22 <gkwhc> antrik: oh! my bad. hm this is quite interesting, and worth looking into :)
Jul 30 23:37:52 <angelox|laptop> np :)
Jul 31 00:13:39 <gkwhc> does anyone know how to remap the AUX button to suspend the system (instead of the default lock screen)?
Jul 31 00:18:22 <gkwhc> i think i got it. im testing now
Jul 31 00:34:05 <gkwhc> nope it doesnt work...whats the command used to suspend the phone?
Jul 31 01:39:30 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * red090233af35 10aurora/aurora-components/components/ (Header.qml Makefile.am qmldir): aurora-components: add first sketch of Header component,allowing user to display or not a back button,it's useful right now for aurora's settings app development
Jul 31 01:39:30 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * ref09a5b9a11f 10aurora/aurora-applications/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'angelox/testing' of git.freesmartphone.org:aurora into angelox/testing
Jul 31 01:42:52 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * r42c853613e51 10aurora/aurora-applications/app-settings/ (4 files in 4 dirs): aurora-settings: make use of Header component
Jul 31 01:45:34 <angelox|laptop> Ok,good night everyone
Jul 31 01:45:35 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * r82232e0e33dc 10aurora/aurora-components/components/ (Header.qml Header.qml~): aurora-components: remove background,will not use it right now
Jul 31 01:45:35 <CIA-82> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07angelox/testing * r27ba7d907c66 10aurora/aurora-components/components/Header.qml~: aurora-components: remove backup file created by gedit
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