**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 29 02:59:57 2011 Aug 29 10:21:24 mrmoku, today I see why registration was disabled... I have 6 spam mails in my inbox today :P Aug 29 10:42:05 dos1: I'm not sure if your fix SRC_URI patches will be applied this way, isn't it rather small upgrade to get newer fetchable version? Aug 29 10:42:27 dos1: ie gdb-7.3 to gdb-7.3a upgrade? Aug 29 10:42:34 JaMae: yes Aug 29 10:42:41 JaMae: should i send it to oe-core ml? Aug 29 10:42:46 dos1: then please fix commit message Aug 29 10:42:57 and sending directly to oe-core is also good idea Aug 29 10:43:14 well, i don't know what this "a" stands for in gdb Aug 29 10:43:43 JaMae: versions before 6.5 don't have this "a" Aug 29 10:43:46 I've checked download site and versions without a were till 6.5 version or something :) Aug 29 10:43:51 JaMae: and all versions after that have only "a" Aug 29 10:44:14 but I doubt that the SRC_URI from that .inc wasn't fetchable at all when somebody added it Aug 29 10:44:19 so maybe there was 7.3 before Aug 29 10:45:01 JaMae: so should I rename recipe to gdb_7.3a.bb? Aug 29 10:45:45 not sure if opkg/rpm will handle 7.3a version right :/ Aug 29 10:46:30 just saying that "fix SRC_URI" is maybe not best term in this case Aug 29 10:47:05 JaMae: so how should it look like? Aug 29 10:47:12 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r04d0aef7fe5b 10/ (544 files in 61 dirs): system upgrade Aug 29 10:47:17 i'll fix and send it to oe-core Aug 29 10:49:07 well the checksums changed too, so it's different tarball with different version.. "gdb: upgrade from 7.3 to 7.3a\\n\\n* because 7.3 archive is not fetchable anymore" or something like that Aug 29 10:49:19 strange that it's in .inc file.. ;/ Aug 29 10:50:56 JaMa|Wrk: ok, thanks Aug 29 10:51:08 JaMa|Wrk: what about ltrace? Aug 29 10:52:02 ltrace: upgrade debian patchset from -2 to -2.1\\n\\n* because -2 is not fetchable anymore Aug 29 10:52:07 ? ;) Aug 29 10:55:11 yup, sounds better Aug 29 11:37:32 hmm still no sound in shr-core om-gta02 Aug 29 11:37:47 # aplay -l Aug 29 11:37:47 aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found... Aug 29 11:39:23 missing modules? Aug 29 11:44:56 JaMa|Wrk, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/466340/ Aug 29 11:48:50 pespin: hmm no kernel-module-snd-soc-neo1973-wm8753 \ Aug 29 11:48:50 kernel-module-snd-soc-neo1973-gta02-wm8753 \ Aug 29 11:48:55 in 2.6.39 Aug 29 11:51:25 no in my feeds at least :P Aug 29 11:52:47 it's not even in defconfig.. Aug 29 11:57:38 pespin: I'm fixing it now Aug 29 12:01:57 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rd8a8284230e9 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-2.6.39: add snd modules to om-gta0[12] defconfigs Aug 29 12:02:19 ok thanks :) Aug 29 12:02:52 CONFIG_SND_S3C24XX_SOC was changed to CONFIG_SND_SAMSUNG so oldconfig dropped that :/ Aug 29 12:13:55 pespin: hmm | sound/soc/samsung/neo1973_wm8753.c:539:2: error: 'err' undeclared (first use in this function) Aug 29 12:21:47 uuuh bad! Aug 29 12:23:12 pespin: it's caused by wm8753: use snd_soc_jack on neo1973 Aug 29 13:06:11 dos1: binutils were also updated to "a" version see ML Aug 29 13:08:13 JaMa|Wrk: ok Aug 29 13:10:54 and I guess we have no explanations why.... Aug 29 13:11:16 I eared even the Changelogs were the same... Aug 29 13:11:23 *heared Aug 29 13:18:49 hum, new shr dev take place in shr-core ? Aug 29 13:26:48 captainigloo: yup Aug 29 13:27:13 captainigloo: even new OE dev take place in oe-core, and SHR is OE based ;) Aug 29 13:27:53 dos1: ok thanks Aug 29 13:28:09 bbl Aug 29 13:28:55 btw, note that nexus one kenrel is based on a very recent cyanogenmod and may work out of the box on desire Aug 29 13:29:03 dos1: INC_PR bump wasn't needed in gdb upgrade (bacause of version change) but fine, thanks! Aug 29 13:29:06 gnutoo: i will try Aug 29 13:29:41 http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming branch nexusone Aug 29 13:29:57 gnutoo: and yes JaMae is also me, extended version :) Aug 29 13:29:58 gnutoo: 2.6.32 never works for me on the dsire Aug 29 13:30:11 I need to fix wifi Aug 29 13:30:23 branch nexusone is 37 Aug 29 13:30:38 bad name :) ok so i will try Aug 29 13:30:50 lol ok Aug 29 13:30:55 JaMa|Wrk: oh, forgot to remove it :) Aug 29 13:31:23 dos1 I have ported firefox recipes from openemebdded to oe-core where should i send my work ? Aug 29 13:31:45 captainigloo: meta-oe? or better ask JaMa|Wrk ;) Aug 29 13:32:19 captainigloo: remember that you should place them in meta-openembedded instead of oe-core Aug 29 13:32:30 captainigloo: as oe-core is meant to be minimal set Aug 29 13:32:39 dos1: yes I know Aug 29 13:32:53 but is there another mailing list for meta-oe or it's the same than oe-core ? Aug 29 13:32:55 captainigloo: so i think you should send it to oe-devel maillist Aug 29 13:33:05 ok i will Aug 29 13:33:06 captainigloo: the same which was used with old OE Aug 29 13:33:12 there is a README Aug 29 13:33:23 inside each repos that tell how to contribute... Aug 29 13:33:25 hhum there is a specific mailing list for oe iirc Aug 29 13:33:31 oe-core Aug 29 13:33:40 captainigloo: no, oe-core is for oe-core Aug 29 13:33:44 captainigloo: oe-devel is for meta-oe Aug 29 13:33:49 ah ok Aug 29 13:34:08 dos1: are all needed deps in oe-core already? Aug 29 13:34:22 captainigloo: ^ Aug 29 13:34:26 that was for you Aug 29 13:34:37 gnutoo: there is no README in my meta-oe clone Aug 29 13:34:39 gnutoo: there is no info about contributing to oe-core in readme ;) Aug 29 13:34:42 JaMa|Wrk: yes Aug 29 13:34:44 gnutoo: but yet, in meta-oe it is Aug 29 13:34:44 captainigloo: but meta-oe sounds better anyways Aug 29 13:35:09 ok,it's there in meta-smartphone too... Aug 29 13:36:25 JaMa|Wrk: and i try now to add openjdk-6 but it' harder Aug 29 13:36:41 and it needs a lot of dependecies Aug 29 13:37:09 at some point...I'll need to add some games.... Aug 29 13:38:10 s/yet/yes/ Aug 29 13:38:10 dos1 meant: gnutoo: but yes, in meta-oe it is Aug 29 13:40:08 captainigloo: iirc koen talked about meta-java on ML, but iirc he said that he didn't finish it Aug 29 13:41:38 JaMa|Wrk: ok i will look Aug 29 13:43:18 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r0ba01e14a006 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-2.6.39/shr.patch linux-openmoko_2.6.39.bb): linux-openmoko: fix build with jack Aug 29 13:48:20 dos1: mrmoku I failed at bisecting phonefsod btw..... Aug 29 13:48:50 going back in time is hard because of the dependencies.... Aug 29 13:53:00 like glib migrations, gdbus miigrations etc.... Aug 29 13:53:12 that has runtime dependencies.... Aug 29 13:55:16 gnutoo, sound driver in openmoko 2.6.39 wasn't enabled at build time because config name has changed. JaMa enabled it in oe defconfig but it fails to build. Do you want to look at it? Aug 29 13:55:39 if you want, what's the deadline? Aug 29 13:56:02 gnutoo, | sound/soc/samsung/neo1973_wm8753.c:539:2: error: 'err' undeclared (first use in this function) Aug 29 13:56:11 that's all? Aug 29 13:56:27 | sound/soc/samsung/neo1973_wm8753.c:539:25: error: 'codec' undeclared (first use in this function) Aug 29 13:56:33 all the other ones are warnings Aug 29 13:56:44 ah the codec would be harder Aug 29 13:56:51 how do I reproduce that? Aug 29 13:57:09 gnutoo, build linux-openmoko from latest meta-openmoko :) Aug 29 13:57:21 ok, so it's pushed....ok Aug 29 13:57:25 yep Aug 29 13:57:40 I've to finish to build replicant before.... Aug 29 13:57:46 ok np :) Aug 29 13:59:07 for the first error: add int err; or change the err variable name if there si another variable that has the same function such as ret for instance.... Aug 29 13:59:21 pespin: you are working on an EFL app ? Aug 29 13:59:32 captainigloo, yep, a telepathy im client Aug 29 13:59:57 pespin: interresting ! Aug 29 14:00:05 ok replicant compilation failed....I'll loook Aug 29 14:00:14 captainigloo, https://gitorious.org/etalk/etalk Aug 29 14:01:03 captainigloo, I need to redesign some code of the app though, because of the elm_pager problem I talked about on #edevelop Aug 29 14:01:10 that does SIP?or just jingle? Aug 29 14:01:12 pespin: btw are you aware about that : http://discomfitor.blogspot.com/2011/08/xmpp-infinite-messaging-protocol.html Aug 29 14:01:21 gnutoo, afaik telepathy suports SIP Aug 29 14:01:30 through sopia connection manager Aug 29 14:01:33 *sofia Aug 29 14:01:35 wow Aug 29 14:01:46 captainigloo, shotgun? yeah :) Aug 29 14:02:19 I tried it in my netbook soem days ago. I'll do an OE recipe when I have some time Aug 29 14:03:17 pespin: did you tried naviframe instead of pager ? Aug 29 14:03:49 that could be another solution, but maybe not the right one Aug 29 14:03:50 captainigloo, I don't know what's that :P Aug 29 14:04:02 tried it with elm_test Aug 29 14:04:11 ok I'll try it now Aug 29 14:05:08 captainigloo, btw, I tried adding elfe window list stuff to hw button and I got 2 E segfaults :P Aug 29 14:05:21 another solution, it's to never pop as i said, and promote the page, and for that you need to keep a ref Aug 29 14:05:27 pespin: hu Aug 29 14:05:47 to hardware button ? Aug 29 14:05:58 captainigloo, yeah, but then I would need to keep all the references whcih I send to the pager, which is like duplicating the content of the stack opf the pager... Aug 29 14:05:58 ah ok so a shortcut that launch the list Aug 29 14:06:23 captainigloo, key binding I mean Aug 29 14:06:32 i always tried with a edge action, si i will try with a keyu Aug 29 14:06:40 there is maybe a probleme Aug 29 14:06:58 there is a problem :) Aug 29 14:07:16 I couldn't get it working with edge binding, but it may be due to TS working wrong in shr-core on om-gta02 Aug 29 14:07:41 pespin: i never tries with a touchscreen ..... Aug 29 14:07:46 tried Aug 29 14:07:52 or maybe bad configuration ,I don't know, the binding sdialog is quite difficult to use with a little screen Aug 29 14:08:57 captainigloo, once this window list is well integrated and working correctly I'd vote for elfe inclusion in default image :D Aug 29 14:10:50 can it do irc too? Aug 29 14:11:13 gnutoo, telepathy can. My app still can't :P Aug 29 14:11:22 ok Aug 29 14:12:03 in fact at the moment I only support setting some accounts, showing user list Aug 29 14:12:14 ok Aug 29 14:12:18 but one-to-one conversations should be supported soon Aug 29 14:12:42 ok Aug 29 14:13:45 pespin: there is a lot of bugs :( Aug 29 14:13:57 and you need composite Aug 29 14:14:07 captainigloo, oh, that may be the problem then Aug 29 14:14:20 composite is unusable in gta02 afaik Aug 29 14:14:46 gta02 is old ... but i understand that it's the main target for shr Aug 29 14:15:05 and most other phones...with the exeption of palm pre 2 Aug 29 14:15:21 (composite only work on palm pre 2 Aug 29 14:15:23 ) Aug 29 14:15:37 software composite shoudl work everywhere Aug 29 14:15:54 but it might be slow on old cpu Aug 29 14:16:07 it require 24/32bit... Aug 29 14:16:19 not all phones have that Aug 29 14:16:21 yep and fbdev do that Aug 29 14:16:56 so it's so nice to have it but it should be optional... Aug 29 14:17:14 i could maybe provide a hack for non composite devices Aug 29 14:17:25 ok thanks a lot!!! Aug 29 14:17:27 that would be nice :D Aug 29 14:17:35 i *could* :P Aug 29 14:17:56 but first i need to fix all the bugs in elfe Aug 29 14:18:07 ok :) Aug 29 14:18:15 ok Aug 29 14:18:27 and Ruihas some problem of perf with his tablet Aug 29 14:18:39 i really don't know why Aug 29 14:19:06 i tried elfe with bodhilinux on a archos 101it and on an ideapad and it was working dine Aug 29 14:19:27 so on omap3 800Mhz and atom 1.6Ghz Aug 29 14:19:53 and it works fine too on the desire Aug 29 14:20:01 what is omap3 and has 800Mhz? the n950? Aug 29 14:20:12 ah how? Aug 29 14:20:13 the archos a101 Aug 29 14:20:23 ok Aug 29 14:20:32 n950 has 1Ghz cpu omap3 3630 iirc Aug 29 14:20:32 how can you enable 32bit with desire... Aug 29 14:21:05 i just say fbdev to use 32bits Aug 29 14:21:09 or 24 bit.... Aug 29 14:21:13 in xorg.conf Aug 29 14:21:17 how? Aug 29 14:22:13 ok Aug 29 14:22:25 can you pastebin your xorg.conf? Aug 29 14:22:53 hum i don't have it here Aug 29 14:22:56 http://linux.die.net/man/4/fbdev Aug 29 14:23:01 ok Aug 29 14:23:22 ah tehre is no opeiton for bpp in the man page ... Aug 29 14:23:24 last time I did something like that on nexusone I had screen corruption... Aug 29 14:24:36 it was working for me Aug 29 14:24:37 I know how to do it tough....I'll retry Aug 29 14:25:47 black screen... Aug 29 14:26:10 :( Aug 29 14:26:14 gnutoo: http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/trees/nexusone Aug 29 14:26:20 this branch is based on 2.6.37 kernel ? Aug 29 14:26:22 yes Aug 29 14:26:37 veryfy with Makefile Aug 29 14:26:50 alsa and wifi is working ? Aug 29 14:27:05 wifi,not yet Aug 29 14:27:07 it seems to be 2.6.37 Aug 29 14:27:13 alsa, somehow Aug 29 14:27:17 alsa: Aug 29 14:27:21 *compile as modules Aug 29 14:27:27 hum ok Aug 29 14:27:32 *add the firmware in /lib/firmware/ Aug 29 14:27:33 i will try with this kernel than Aug 29 14:27:36 and load the modules Aug 29 14:27:44 and follow fso page Aug 29 14:27:50 which page ? Aug 29 14:27:51 about the software volume Aug 29 14:27:59 because beware....the volume is very high Aug 29 14:28:07 specially with earphones... Aug 29 14:28:31 let me find it Aug 29 14:29:04 http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Hardware/nexusone#Alsa Aug 29 14:29:14 oops Aug 29 14:29:25 I'll update it Aug 29 14:29:45 pespin: oh non why are you using vala for etalk .... Aug 29 14:30:11 captainigloo, hehe :P Aug 29 14:30:49 captainigloo, it's quite more handly, specially when working a lot with dbus, which is the case with telepathy ;) Aug 29 14:31:11 pespin: the best way is to provide telepathy support in e_dbus Aug 29 14:32:01 also it won't work out of the box for desire, you need some small changes Aug 29 14:32:05 just that: Aug 29 14:32:33 captainigloo, if you want to try it you just need valac + libeflvala (in bindings dir in E svn) Aug 29 14:32:36 pespin: i want also do that for fso Aug 29 14:32:46 ca04ff3a5514480035de839598daa0d169ec184b Aug 29 14:32:53 add your machine inside that Aug 29 14:33:00 gnutoo: ok Aug 29 14:33:29 https://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/ca04ff3a5514480035de839598daa0d169ec184b Aug 29 14:33:50 basically you must add your machine name to the supported machines.... Aug 29 14:40:09 captainigloo, hmm there's still no documentation for naviframe as fas as I can see Aug 29 14:42:41 currently unimplemented ecore_x_image_get without shm Aug 29 14:42:53 currently unimplemented ecore_x_image_get without shm Aug 29 14:42:59 that's whaty I get... Aug 29 14:57:30 gnutoo: enable shm Aug 29 14:57:45 it's not a X extension ? Aug 29 14:57:47 yes but how? Aug 29 14:57:52 it is Aug 29 14:58:00 I tried hard to enable it .... Aug 29 14:58:06 still not succeded Aug 29 14:58:39 mplayer for instance says: Aug 29 14:58:41 Shared memory error,disabling ( seg id error ) Aug 29 14:58:44 Shared memory error,disabling ( seg id error ) Aug 29 14:59:17 oops it alwys poaste twice... Aug 29 14:59:46 and Xorg says: Aug 29 14:59:50 (**) Extension "MIT-SHM" is enabled Aug 29 15:00:47 gnutoo: no idea Aug 29 15:03:04 gnutoo: same problem here Aug 29 15:07:44 I'll look that later Aug 29 15:08:03 pespin: linux-openmoko succeed here Aug 29 15:08:58 gnutoo, did you need to tweak something else than int err; ? Aug 29 15:09:55 I did nothing... Aug 29 15:10:11 I just pulled the repos Aug 29 15:10:17 and bitbake linux-openmoko Aug 29 15:10:20 and it succedded Aug 29 15:10:36 linux-openmoko-2.6.39-r2-oe6: Aug 29 15:10:45 s/:// Aug 29 15:10:46 gnutoo meant: linux-openmoko-2.6.39-r2-oe6 Aug 29 15:12:52 gnutoo: try to install libxext6 or libxcb-shm0 Aug 29 15:13:05 libxcb-shm0 only Aug 29 15:13:10 let me try the other lib Aug 29 15:13:41 libxext6 was already installed... Aug 29 15:15:10 so I have both.... Aug 29 15:15:40 before I meant that I already installed libxvb-shm0 Aug 29 15:17:14 juri_: freegeek?... Aug 29 15:28:23 pespin: gnutoo: that was fixed (build..) Aug 29 15:30:58 maybe the kenrel.... Aug 29 15:30:59 # CONFIG_SYSVIPC is not set Aug 29 15:31:41 JaMa|Off, ah nice, thanks! :) Aug 29 15:37:15 it works now...with strange colors Aug 29 15:38:05 thanks a lot!!!! Aug 29 18:03:06 antrik: freegeek arkansas. Aug 29 19:10:35 Hi all, how can I read write the GPS ubx binary protocol? (Can FreeRunner do EGNOS?) Aug 29 19:10:55 Writing to it is explained in the Wiki, with ubxgen.py. But how to read? Aug 29 19:11:28 LionKMP: there are various pieces of software around Aug 29 19:11:40 LionKMP: my fork is http://iki.fi/lindi/git/ubx.git/ I think Aug 29 19:13:03 LionKMP: http://finhack.org/2010/finhack2010-rtklib-lindfors.odp has some usage examples for RTK Aug 29 19:14:21 speaking about that, what did you modify in the firmware and how? reprograming the firmware? I read about that project a few days ago, it's so cool! Aug 29 19:16:31 ah, I can see "upload.py" in that git :) Aug 29 19:31:32 LionKMP: yes I did modify it Aug 29 19:33:03 I tried "ask-position.py" and it worked :) Aug 29 19:34:40 LionKMP: I also wrote some documentation of the protocol to http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/gps/ubx.html Aug 29 19:36:09 is this for the the modified firmware? (E.g. RMX-RAW?) Aug 29 19:36:42 is that compatible with other OpenMoko software? or does the firware update break some features? Did you publish the firware changes? Aug 29 19:37:02 do you think I can use this RAW with paid correction data? Aug 29 19:41:28 no, RMX-RAW is part of the default commands, I just checked the docs :) Aug 29 19:41:47 well, I'll ask you later, you seem to be busy at the moment. Thank you anyway, I'll learn python now :) Aug 29 19:44:12 LionKMP: I only modify one byte in the RAM of the GPS Aug 29 19:44:43 LionKMP: you don't need any of the other changes. that byte will magically enable all commands... Aug 29 19:45:14 LionKMP: I obviously can not distribute modified firmware. However, I don't consider that one byte to be copyrightable :) Aug 29 19:45:15 juri_: I see Aug 29 19:45:56 LionKMP: if you want a free gps stack it's in developemnt by kristianpaul, not for the freerunner unfortunately Aug 29 19:46:06 could have explained it though instead of leaving me to google... maybe everyone knows it where you live, but certainly not over here in Europe :-) Aug 29 19:46:17 LionKMP: once you get the raw data out you can do all calculations using free software Aug 29 19:46:51 LionKMP: rtklib can do normal stuff too, it is not just for RTK Aug 29 19:47:10 I read that presentation multiple time but I didn't understand everything, for instance there is a graph at some point,and then a more precise graph, but no explanations on what is what Aug 29 19:47:10 lindi-: it's not copyrightable, but it might still violate DMCA provisions... Aug 29 19:47:11 lindi-: yes, I saw your mails about that, the rtklib or what's called. But is this "compatbile" with purchasable correction data? (The correction company also said RINEX is OK) Aug 29 19:47:28 LionKMP: I don't know what they are selling Aug 29 19:47:52 LionKMP: they might just be selling you public domain data in proprietary format :P Aug 29 19:48:08 lindi-: It's bascially the same thing like your fixed-positon Neo, but whole country covered. Aug 29 19:48:21 lindi-: no, it's their own fixed GPS stations. Aug 29 19:48:33 LionKMP: ah Aug 29 19:48:40 lindi-: goverment paid of course, so it's paid from my taxes and now I can buy it :D Aug 29 19:48:54 LionKMP: what country is that? Aug 29 19:48:58 Hungary Aug 29 19:49:02 LionKMP: do you have coordinates of the stations? Aug 29 19:49:44 yes Aug 29 19:50:03 station info are on their website Aug 29 19:50:24 LionKMP: do they perhaps match http://igs.bkg.bund.de/root_ftp/NTRIP/documentation/EUREF_XYZ.txt Aug 29 19:51:15 LionKMP: http://igs.bkg.bund.de/root_ftp/NTRIP/streams/streamlist_euref-ip.htm has the same in WGS-84 if that is easier Aug 29 19:51:55 http://gnssnet.hu/szolg.php I try to check one, but at this stage this is too early, I have not yet updated my firmware or understood your software :) Aug 29 19:52:25 LionKMP: just run "enable-raw.py" and it will write that one byte to RAM Aug 29 19:52:33 is this freely available correction data? Aug 29 19:52:43 LionKMP: yes, you need euref account though Aug 29 19:52:51 to RAM? or to someting non-volatile? Aug 29 19:52:55 LionKMP: to RAM Aug 29 19:53:08 LionKMP: "om gps power 0" will reset it Aug 29 19:53:15 LionKMP: 99% safe :P Aug 29 19:53:20 :D good Aug 29 19:53:49 LionKMP: I got my euref account quite easily, I just wrote that I do mapping for openstreetmap Aug 29 19:54:02 LionKMP: and within a week they mailed me a password Aug 29 19:54:38 that's great! Does it work with the data you can get from OpenMoko? What software you use for logging after "raw" is enabled? Aug 29 19:54:50 * LionKMP enabled raw :-p Aug 29 19:55:08 LionKMP: frankly I do not know. I never managed to see any improvement with DGPS Aug 29 19:55:37 LionKMP: I only got positive results with RTK Aug 29 19:56:00 RTK = your own base station? Aug 29 19:56:16 LionKMP: go read rtklib docs :) Aug 29 19:56:44 yeah, on, but the static station list you provided is also for RTK.. as I understand. Aug 29 19:57:02 btw, yes, the capical city station of that company is on your list. Aug 29 19:57:07 strage :) Aug 29 19:58:02 basically I didn't even understood what is all about: Aug 29 19:58:13 LionKMP: in rtk you have base and rover. base has known location and rover moves. you record pseudorange and phase information from both and then use that to calculate the location of the rover Aug 29 19:58:23 all that I understood is that it increase the GPS precision Aug 29 19:58:27 LionKMP: in typical DGPS you only use pseudoranges and ignore the phase information Aug 29 19:58:53 but does the GPS of the freerunner have to be in a fix position? Aug 29 19:58:56 or can it move? Aug 29 19:59:00 like openstreetmap Aug 29 19:59:07 that would be awsome for openstreetmap Aug 29 19:59:09 gnutoo: see my presentation :) Aug 29 19:59:15 lindi-: with professional GPS unit this correction provided 1-3cm precision, so if there are two things to take-care-of, I am sure this company does. Aug 29 19:59:16 I saw it 2 times Aug 29 19:59:17 gnutoo: of course rover can move Aug 29 19:59:18 one time now Aug 29 19:59:24 and one time long time ago Aug 29 19:59:32 but I still didn't undertand it Aug 29 19:59:36 LionKMP: I think 1-3cm requires RTK Aug 29 19:59:47 I lack the video of the presentation or the comments, I've only the slides Aug 29 20:00:10 ahh there are comments inside... Aug 29 20:00:12 gnutoo: ah true, the notes tab has comments Aug 29 20:00:14 let me re-read it then Aug 29 20:00:29 oh, me too :D Aug 29 20:01:19 LionKMP: current status is that RTK with two freerunners works as long as the baseline is less than 100 m Aug 29 20:01:50 LionKMP: after that it quite quickly can not resolve the integer ambiguity anymore and precision is totally lost Aug 29 20:02:10 gnutoo: the basic idea is that a fixed station will always know how much distance error a specific satellite has. If you take that into account, you can correct your measurement, assuming you stored not position but data measured per-satellite. So you need one fixed station, but this fixed data is provided my many companies. Aug 29 20:02:12 and I have no idea why. RTK should work with baselines of tens of kilometers Aug 29 20:02:42 lindi-: :-( that's not good, yes, this gnssnet says 30km or so. Aug 29 20:02:54 this limitation means that I also can not use euref data since I can't get within 100 meters of a base station Aug 29 20:02:56 this is why they covered the country on the way you saw on my link. Aug 29 20:03:30 :( Aug 29 20:03:42 yeah, there's something in my antenna, antenna model, rtklib or my configuration that breaks this Aug 29 20:04:02 and I don't want to spend money on real RTK antennas just to test this Aug 29 20:04:32 ok I understand a bit more with the comments Aug 29 20:05:44 so you're doing what the paper suggest, but with freerunners... Aug 29 20:06:23 gnutoo: yep Aug 29 20:06:38 gnutoo: and it's actually cheaper than tomoji's "low-cost solution" Aug 29 20:06:51 since he had to buy beagleboards and solder extra chips Aug 29 20:07:08 it's also more mobile since you don't need laptops when you capture the data Aug 29 20:07:23 oh nice... Aug 29 20:07:54 I've only one freerunner tough, too bad Aug 29 20:08:56 what's the use case of that Aug 29 20:08:56 ? Aug 29 20:09:11 gnutoo: use case of RTK? Aug 29 20:09:17 yes Aug 29 20:09:24 gnutoo: it is used in agriculture Aug 29 20:09:28 ah ok Aug 29 20:09:35 I tought about constructions Aug 29 20:09:37 gnutoo: also to detect earthquakes Aug 29 20:09:43 ok Aug 29 20:09:53 gnutoo: and also map maping :) Aug 29 20:09:56 is it used in constructions? Aug 29 20:10:00 gnutoo: youtube is full of cool RTK videos Aug 29 20:10:06 ok I'll look Aug 29 20:10:21 how can I use it for openstreetmap? Aug 29 20:10:26 openstreetmap require moving Aug 29 20:10:29 and that is fix Aug 29 20:10:43 gnutoo: rover moves Aug 29 20:10:48 gnutoo: base doesn't Aug 29 20:10:50 ah ok Aug 29 20:10:58 so it needs 2 or 3 freerunners? Aug 29 20:11:04 2 for base and one that moves Aug 29 20:11:04 ? Aug 29 20:11:11 or one that moves and one for base? Aug 29 20:11:39 two Aug 29 20:11:45 base and rover Aug 29 20:11:56 I guess ataching 2 freerunners to your beld and calculating the distance between them won't work... Aug 29 20:12:50 and don't forget that you need the base station's very exact coordinates. Aug 29 20:12:58 ok Aug 29 20:13:03 LionKMP: you can calculate them afterwards Aug 29 20:13:14 LionKMP: you don't need to know them when you collect data Aug 29 20:13:28 (rtk usecase) also for doing "crop circles" :) Aug 29 20:14:15 yep, just program a quadcopter with flamedrower and RTK to do it Aug 29 20:14:57 there was almost a fire emergency in our hacklab this week for real Aug 29 20:15:18 ah? Aug 29 20:15:28 what happened...? Aug 29 20:16:01 somebody hit a closet and a piece of steel wool dropped on the floor Aug 29 20:16:11 nobody noticed that it had ignited Aug 29 20:16:24 ah ouch Aug 29 20:17:37 what should ./set-nmea.py off do? it has a lot of output and does not exit. Aug 29 20:18:29 LionKMP: it should disable nmea output Aug 29 20:18:32 LionKMP: but it should exit Aug 29 20:21:04 is it safe to try the commands on page 14? e.g. ./set-periodic-raw-logging.py on ? Aug 29 20:21:14 and then cat... Aug 29 20:22:24 LionKMP: yes Aug 29 20:22:50 LionKMP: I probably should have used dbus or something Aug 29 20:22:52 callback RXM-RAW ([{'Week'..... :-) Aug 29 20:22:57 I got some data Aug 29 20:23:03 LionKMP: looks good Aug 29 20:23:08 but something with set nmea is not OK. Aug 29 20:23:27 LionKMP: if you send me the raw data I can try to decode it and find out where you are Aug 29 20:24:02 one RAW row? Aug 29 20:25:29 but please reply location link in private message! Aug 29 20:26:07 LionKMP: 5 minutes worth of RAW's and SFRB's Aug 29 20:26:35 LionKMP: you should just cat it to a file, I don't want the textual version :) Aug 29 20:27:03 ah, that's too easy, it contains a lot of norlam coordinate rows! :) (callback NAV-POSLLH) Aug 29 20:27:47 LionKMP: yeah if you include NAV then it is very easy Aug 29 20:28:02 but rtklib only uses RXM-RAW and RXM-SFRB Aug 29 20:35:10 and is it important to use an external antanna? can I just choose ANY? (I saw only one with this connection in the nearby GPS shop) Aug 29 20:35:29 I saw you switched to it after some problems. Aug 29 20:36:18 LionKMP: yes Aug 29 20:36:32 http://www.speedshop.hu/termekoldal/7603_.html Aug 29 20:36:54 LionKMP: I could not get RTK work at all with internal antenna Aug 29 20:37:15 I wonder how much power this eats from poor Neo Aug 29 20:37:19 LionKMP: I just picked two cheap antennas Aug 29 20:37:22 LionKMP: not that much Aug 29 20:37:47 yep, this also looks cheap, looks similar to yours. Aug 29 20:38:00 ~25 USD Aug 29 20:38:16 yep Aug 29 20:58:32 lindi-: I installed rtklib, and tried convbin, did you ever see such error: http://pastebin.com/P47a0k3v Aug 29 20:59:13 it seems to want to write to root folder :) Aug 29 20:59:30 LionKMP: interesting Aug 29 20:59:42 LionKMP: how did you install rtklib? Aug 29 21:00:01 makeall.sh and then copied convbin to ~/bin/rtklib-convbin Aug 29 21:00:10 uhm Aug 29 21:00:13 it has a makeall.sh which worked Ok with some warnings. Aug 29 21:00:22 I created debian packages Aug 29 21:00:30 I have Mandriva :-) Aug 29 21:00:38 LionKMP: and what version of rtklib? Aug 29 21:00:44 I'll give it the output file options. 2.4.1 Aug 29 21:00:55 I have only tested 2.3.0 and 2.4.0 Aug 29 21:01:03 so you might have hit a new bug Aug 29 21:01:39 LionKMP: please subscribe to foss-gps list and also mail me in future about this :) Aug 29 21:02:30 it's plain C, I worked with that 15 years ago, let me check, "moment" :-D Aug 29 21:09:55 JaMa|Off: really off ? Aug 29 21:13:22 hi Aug 29 21:14:28 gnutoo: hi Aug 29 21:15:26 gnutoo: i am gettiing crazy.... u-boot for n900 is the horror Aug 29 21:15:41 yes I know.... Aug 29 21:15:52 *dir=""; Aug 29 21:15:54 I've an old uboot Aug 29 21:15:58 gnutoo: have you ever compiled it and started a maemo kernel ? Aug 29 21:16:01 else there is kexecboot.... Aug 29 21:16:14 ah let me look.... Aug 29 21:16:50 DocScrutinizer51: say uboot works fine for him..... Aug 29 21:17:01 *said Aug 29 21:17:16 he compiledhimself ? Aug 29 21:17:21 ouch I've an issue with usb...bbs Aug 29 21:17:41 it works for me too Aug 29 21:17:53 though i didn't compile it for myself Aug 29 21:17:58 s/for/by/ Aug 29 21:18:00 dos1|N900 meant: though i didn't compile it by myself Aug 29 21:18:33 you are using the one from shr or maemo repo ? Aug 29 21:18:53 SHR Aug 29 21:18:59 the one from oe-core fails to work....please bugreport.... Aug 29 21:19:10 *.dosalike ;D Aug 29 21:19:26 I forgott to bugrport... Aug 29 21:19:33 dosalike versions has modified env to always check for boot.env Aug 29 21:19:54 so you can write you're own rules for both keyboard slided and keyboard unslided cases Aug 29 21:20:44 I'll reboot, bbs Aug 29 21:23:56 and how do you dos1|N900 do you use power kernel ? Aug 29 21:24:19 dos1|N900: do you use power kernel ? Aug 29 21:24:23 nschle85, no, with maemo i use stock kernel Aug 29 21:24:56 and u-boot ftrom old shr ? Aug 29 21:24:57 cause i don't really play with maemo Aug 29 21:25:11 i'm just using it Aug 29 21:25:18 i'm playing with SHR ;) Aug 29 21:25:28 yep, some old u-boot i didn't change Aug 29 21:26:42 my problem is, that i build u-boot with differnt toolchains, alll the same effect: starting kernel ... and thats all Aug 29 21:37:24 gnutoo: "uBoot works fine for him" Aug 29 21:43:27 back Aug 29 21:43:47 uboot works fine for you? Aug 29 21:43:54 nschle85, ask JaMa|Off Aug 29 21:44:08 IIRC there was some bug with newer GCC Aug 29 21:44:22 dos1|N900: i tried older gcc also Aug 29 21:46:08 DocScrutinizer: which u-boot are you using ? Aug 29 21:46:35 extras-devel repo, mohammad's build of uboot-powerkernel Aug 29 21:46:39 iirc Aug 29 21:47:23 quite old now Aug 29 21:47:40 sth like PK45 + uBoot Aug 29 21:47:41 DocScrutinizer: does mohammad provide the sources ? Aug 29 21:47:59 I guess he just used the available sources Aug 29 21:48:52 ping mohammadAG in #maemo or #harmattan Aug 29 21:49:45 well, if it's a package in one of the repos, I guess the "sources" shall be linked there Aug 29 21:51:30 http://maemo.org/packages/view/uboot-power/ Aug 29 21:53:46 somebody claimed it didn't install for him, so maybe you need *)use HAM to install, or *)use apt get to install the 3 or 4 needed packages, or *) have a powerkernel46 already installed on your system. Dunno Aug 29 21:54:33 I can't recall what I did when I installed it to my devel device, but it runns smootly there since Aug 29 21:56:47 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/uboot-power/0.2-1/ http://maemo.org/packages/source/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_source/uboot-power/0.2-1/ Aug 29 22:00:06 DocScrutinizer: found :-) Aug 29 22:03:44 lindi-: are you still around? If you received my e-mail, I think the corresponding Euref data is in one of these folders: ftp://igs.bkg.bund.de/EUREF/nrt/241/ (20 or 22, depending on which clock this uses, and starts with "bute*". Aug 29 22:04:07 but this is in ETRS89, can you feed this and my ubx to rtklib somehow? Aug 29 22:04:33 hi! is it possible to use rndis_host on the freerunner in host mode? the module seems not to come along with shr-u. Should I build it? Aug 29 22:09:46 hi paulk Aug 29 22:10:05 what do you mean Aug 29 22:10:05 ? Aug 29 22:10:21 usually it's usb gadget <->usb host Aug 29 22:10:29 with gadget beeing the freerunner Aug 29 22:10:34 and usb host beeing the computer Aug 29 22:10:51 hi Aug 29 22:10:52 so here I don't understand what you're trying to do Aug 29 22:11:27 because for tethering you can keep the gadget[phone]<->usb host[computer] Aug 29 22:11:43 basically, I want to make the freerunner act as the host computer Aug 29 22:11:51 ok Aug 29 22:11:58 to have another device as gadget? Aug 29 22:12:02 yes Aug 29 22:12:06 that will provide usb networking Aug 29 22:12:08 like an htc dream Aug 29 22:12:34 there is this: http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/Connecter_le_FreeRunner_au_web_via_freebox Aug 29 22:12:38 that is pretty much what I want Aug 29 22:12:46 paulk: o/ Aug 29 22:12:54 but the box being another device (dream, nexus s, etc) Aug 29 22:12:57 hi misc! Aug 29 22:13:44 it says that the freerunner should be able to connect to any usb modem in host mode Aug 29 22:14:24 then get usb host working on the freerunner and do as a computer Aug 29 22:14:28 for instance Aug 29 22:14:33 modprobe cdc_ethernet Aug 29 22:16:30 err... I'm pretty sure cdc_ethernet is not the right module to talk to a USB modem :-) Aug 29 22:16:34 it's not in /lib/modules/2.6.34.8/kernel/drivers/net/ Aug 29 22:16:53 my bet is that it's rndis_host Aug 29 22:17:18 my host PC says "[48198.512745] rndis_host 1-8:1.0: usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:1d.7-8, RNDIS device, 52:72:72:0d:83:a6" when I plug the usb modem Aug 29 22:17:34 paulk: better make sure :-) have you checked which module is used when you connect it to a PC with a "traditional" distro? Aug 29 22:17:42 ah Aug 29 22:17:54 btw...does anyone have a working youtube account Aug 29 22:18:12 when I try to post a comment about the htc dream it errors each time... Aug 29 22:18:58 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7j00BnIgo -> I just wanted to told them that their images were heavily outdated... Aug 29 22:19:34 and also that we are working on shr-core so they should not worry that they have no updates Aug 29 22:20:42 paulk: I don't know if that's related, but settings->connectivity has some USB options (host/device,etc) Aug 29 22:20:43 ah, now I tried to boot with uImage-2.6.37.6 and i have kernel panic Aug 29 22:20:49 gnutoo: that's all because your modem watches you and prohibits spreading freedom Aug 29 22:21:05 LionKMP: that's what I used to setup usb host Aug 29 22:21:10 I was looking for RTK videos(GPS system implemented by lindi) then I looked for RTK openmoko and found nothing and then looked for openmoko and found that video Aug 29 22:21:24 I don't think my modem can control my laptop Aug 29 22:21:35 however the dream modem control the sound DSP Aug 29 22:21:43 which is very bad... Aug 29 22:21:49 gnutoo: i do have an account if you want me to post a message and redirect them to you Aug 29 22:21:58 ok thanks Aug 29 22:22:05 I've an account too but it errored me Aug 29 22:22:26 maybe that's because I have no flash or because I block facebook+twitter Aug 29 22:22:58 just tell that : Aug 29 22:23:03 *the images are outdated Aug 29 22:23:28 btw. on my old desktop box i do not have flash but have installed gnash. even though it plays everything with ffmpeg, it sucks hard. it just gets distorted even if you just move mouse Aug 29 22:23:32 *newer images can be found here: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/htcdream/ Aug 29 22:23:45 *that because of shr-core we have no more updates Aug 29 22:24:06 Alex[sp3dev]: gnash require a fast CPU Aug 29 22:24:22 is this kernel panic bug known? it says "VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block". I'm using a uSD card and this is 2.6.37.6 Aug 29 22:24:31 some time ago it worked fine but with fast CPUs Aug 29 22:24:34 gnutoo: oh yeah. mine desktop is athlon 3000+ (1.8Ghz) and a gig ddr1 ram Aug 29 22:24:40 altough it may be a bug with youtube... Aug 29 22:25:02 paulk: freerunner? Aug 29 22:25:07 yep Aug 29 22:25:11 hmmm Aug 29 22:25:18 are you sure your microsd is ok? Aug 29 22:25:27 gnutoo: so shr-core is the currently developed thing? Aug 29 22:25:27 it work fine with 2.6.34.8 Aug 29 22:25:29 which distro btw Aug 29 22:25:50 gnutoo: on the freerunner? Aug 29 22:25:53 Alex[sp3dev]: yes,as openembedded moved to openembedded-core from the yocto project, shr does the same Aug 29 22:26:08 paulk: ask larsc Aug 29 22:26:18 ok Aug 29 22:26:25 he told me that it was an issue in the mmc stack Aug 29 22:26:36 basically to detect a microsd card I do: Aug 29 22:26:36 ok Aug 29 22:27:07 fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 Aug 29 22:27:10 d Aug 29 22:27:11 p Aug 29 22:27:13 1 Aug 29 22:27:16 oops Aug 29 22:27:23 delete partitions Aug 29 22:27:27 create one primary Aug 29 22:27:31 with everything Aug 29 22:27:32 and w Aug 29 22:27:39 for savign and write Aug 29 22:27:47 and then it finds /dev/mmcblk0p1 Aug 29 22:27:58 gnutoo: hum.. spits error when clicking 'post' Aug 29 22:28:01 but that require a jffs2 or ubifs system Aug 29 22:28:11 Alex[sp3dev]: then same error than me Aug 29 22:28:14 thanks a lot for trying Aug 29 22:28:35 gnutoo: you do that from the NAND system? Aug 29 22:28:48 yes Aug 29 22:28:51 ok Aug 29 22:29:00 maybe I should flash shr-u on NAND then Aug 29 22:29:07 that allows me to use huge fat microsd Aug 29 22:29:16 so they are compatible with replicant Aug 29 22:29:17 gnutoo: is zhone for the modern fso stack (cornucopia) or for the old one? are there any dialers except phoneui? Aug 29 22:29:30 zhone is old Aug 29 22:29:38 currently you have the choice between: Aug 29 22:29:42 *aurora Aug 29 22:29:43 ok Aug 29 22:29:47 *shr stuff Aug 29 22:30:03 gnutoo: I have a google account to post bugs on AOSP, should it work with youtube too? Aug 29 22:30:08 I'm not sure zhone or even zhone2 still work Aug 29 22:30:28 paulk: yes but Alex[sp3dev] and me had the same error Aug 29 22:30:37 let's see Aug 29 22:30:38 so maybe it's a problem in their server Aug 29 22:30:45 what's the link already? Aug 29 22:31:01 ah got it Aug 29 22:31:03 let me look it up Aug 29 22:31:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7j00BnIgo Aug 29 22:31:40 gnutoo: i see. i think i will try building gentoo and openbox instead of shr (i do not like e17 and gentoo has ebuilds for everything). sorry that i cannot invest time into this stuff right now, i'm now reading some books and studying some math and am planning to spend a week or two doing that Aug 29 22:32:03 gnutoo: yuk, it asks me to create a youtube channel to post a comment Aug 29 22:32:27 Alex[sp3dev]: maybe try aurora then, it's in QT Aug 29 22:32:36 you have SHR stuff in efl Aug 29 22:32:39 and aurora in QT Aug 29 22:32:44 and zhone2 in efl too Aug 29 22:32:57 and zhone1 is not guaranteed to work Aug 29 22:33:27 gnutoo: i have nothing against efl. just enlightenment ui is not very comfortable and if you play a lot with settings, you can even make it unusable unless you remove .e profile Aug 29 22:33:40 ok Aug 29 22:33:43 it's not that bad Aug 29 22:33:46 gnutoo: BT is unsupported on dream, right? Aug 29 22:34:07 considering that you have to write your own dialers etc...if you want GTK for instance Aug 29 22:34:16 it works badly Aug 29 22:34:23 and is not integrated at all Aug 29 22:34:25 like wifi Aug 29 22:34:30 I have no "om" command, where is it? Aug 29 22:35:06 and I guess if you try a bt headset there would be some problem with sound.... Aug 29 22:35:11 gnutoo: pardon my ignorance, but is there an easy way in shr to define callbacks with hciattach command line for bluetooth so that it is executed when you power it up? Aug 29 22:35:23 yes of course there is Aug 29 22:35:29 it's in fsodeviced Aug 29 22:35:35 just that somebody needs to do it.... Aug 29 22:35:53 that is to say, to find the time to add hciattach foo in a fsodeviced plugin Aug 29 22:35:56 same for wifi Aug 29 22:36:14 on other devices like freerunner,n900,palmpre it works out of the box Aug 29 22:36:17 i probably will.. does vanilla bluez support this ti brf63x0? or do we need android patches? Aug 29 22:36:28 vanilla works Aug 29 22:36:32 look here: Aug 29 22:36:35 i mean, with firmware, not 115200 Aug 29 22:36:53 I mean with firmware too, without firmware never worked Aug 29 22:37:02 it had the illusion of working Aug 29 22:37:07 but never really worked Aug 29 22:37:25 http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream#Kernel_Status Aug 29 22:37:32 look for bluetooth there.... Aug 29 22:39:24 the callbacks are very easy to add Aug 29 22:39:29 clone cornucopia Aug 29 22:39:35 go in fsodeviced/src/plugins Aug 29 22:39:57 look at the commits and revert the removal of non-working htcdream plugin Aug 29 22:39:57 gnutoo: i'll figure it out. just needed to make sure there is prior art so to say Aug 29 22:40:01 and finish it Aug 29 22:40:10 ok Aug 29 22:41:52 gnutoo: btw, you can either use texasalt and .bin files from android or texas and .bts files (like in winmo). dunno about the differences, though Aug 29 22:42:22 http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-May/000220.html Aug 29 22:42:41 ok Aug 29 22:43:15 are firmwares redistributable at all? Aug 29 22:43:23 gnutoo: I don't see what is bad about modem controlling DSP... unless it controls sound routing too Aug 29 22:44:06 antrik: DSP is like the sound card Aug 29 22:44:06 paulk: yes, there is a known problem with most uSD cards on GTA02 with 2.6.37+ Aug 29 22:44:23 antrik: it does control routing. but what is bad about routing? it simplifies kernel driver and you do not need to care about overheating if you use wrong setup (like some old WM chips) Aug 29 22:44:29 basically you have to talk to the modem to have sound, or even to route Aug 29 22:45:06 Alex[sp3dev]: firmwares are not redistributable unless you got a file that say so, and you don't Aug 29 22:45:22 antrik: ok. should it work normally on NAND? Aug 29 22:45:49 antrik: imagine a microphone attached to a sound card attached to a modem... Aug 29 22:45:56 that's bad Aug 29 22:47:42 Alex[sp3dev]: well, you don't control the modem firmware, so if the modem controls audio, it can be (even remotely) turned into a wiretap... Aug 29 22:48:10 antrik: as long as you have a modem.. you already can be tracked down which is even worse Aug 29 22:48:44 paulk: I guess so... beware though of some other known problems in newer kernels Aug 29 22:48:52 alexxy, but that's the thing (almost) everyone is aware of Aug 29 22:48:54 yes you can, however beeing listened all the time or during crucial moments is bad too Aug 29 22:48:54 (including a crash when trying to use accelerometers) Aug 29 22:48:56 err Aug 29 22:49:00 even worse.... Aug 29 22:49:02 Alex[sp3dev], Aug 29 22:49:48 antrik: ah right the accelerometers crash, I forgott to bugreport because of shr-core, please bugreport Aug 29 22:49:55 at least in shr bugreporting system Aug 29 22:50:07 I'm not sure where to bugreport for the kernel Aug 29 22:50:46 it boots on NAND Aug 29 22:50:54 I'll switch computer Aug 29 22:50:56 brb Aug 29 22:51:34 gnutoo: I don't even use SHR currently... :-) Aug 29 22:52:03 gnutoo: does power-collapse suspend work on dream in non-android? Aug 29 23:01:51 it's a kernel option but I don't know what it does Aug 29 23:02:03 I'll have to go to sleep Aug 29 23:02:09 I'll try again this usb thing Aug 29 23:02:12 tomorrow Aug 29 23:06:33 paulk: I hope you get it to work... I actually considered using an external USB modem myself :-) Aug 29 23:11:13 oh I sure will. The only question is to know if I'll have to build kernel modules Aug 29 23:11:35 hi nschle85! Aug 29 23:11:35 basically, I know that some other people already made it work with older distros Aug 29 23:11:47 hello Aug 29 23:12:02 nschle85: any news about uboot ? Aug 29 23:12:32 and I already had to rebuild kernel modules (to make my webcam work with the freerunner) Aug 29 23:12:39 yes, thied another toolchain and 2 different branches .... no success Aug 29 23:12:47 I'll go to sleep Aug 29 23:12:48 bye Aug 29 23:12:54 angelox|laptop: loading kernel ... thats it Aug 29 23:12:57 thanks for your help and infos Aug 29 23:13:23 nschle85: i see...did you asked sre or ali1234 ? Aug 29 23:14:14 angelox|laptop: yes, i talked with ali1234, i used exactly his build environment but i cannot reproduce his build Aug 29 23:14:51 nschle85: that's bad,there should be some 'magic' to make it work :) Aug 29 23:15:07 angelox|laptop: or i make a stupid mistake Aug 29 23:17:23 not sure Aug 29 23:17:41 i did try also and i got the same thing Aug 29 23:17:52 else if we both made mistakes ;D Aug 29 23:18:56 angelox|laptop: here we have 01:15 AM again.... i ll go to bed ... Aug 29 23:19:00 bye... Aug 29 23:19:10 ok Aug 29 23:19:13 good night! Aug 29 23:19:38 spokoĭnoĭ nochi! Aug 29 23:19:53 angelox|laptop: spacibo, Aug 29 23:20:49 angelox|laptop: would be better if it worked without magic... ;-) Aug 29 23:21:36 antrik: indeed :) Aug 30 00:59:06 good night people! :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 30 02:15:47 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 30 02:16:14 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 30 02:18:15 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 30 02:20:16 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 30 02:59:57 2011