**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 09 02:59:57 2011 Sep 09 07:10:36 hi, any idea why gsmd is not starting automatically on debian? I have fsodeviced and fsousaged running, but gsmd is not running Sep 09 07:11:44 is fsodeviced responsible for launching fsogsmd? Sep 09 07:13:28 in shr it's iirc autostarted by dbus Sep 09 07:17:26 JaMa|Off: ahh thanks i'll try Sep 09 07:17:43 radekp: also, it's fsogsmd actually Sep 09 07:17:58 radekp: and yes, it's usually dbus-activated by fsousaged. Sep 09 07:18:07 JaMa|Off: radekp: hey folks :) Sep 09 07:18:14 PaulFertser: i know sorry for being not correct :) Sep 09 07:18:24 PaulFertser: hi too :) Sep 09 07:20:24 PaulFertser: JaMa|Off: any idea how do i activate it? Sep 09 07:21:06 radekp: dbus activation works like that: whenever someone requests a specific "bus", it looks at the dbus activation config file named the same as that bus, and if it's there, runs a command from it. Sep 09 07:21:30 radekp: probably your problem is that fsogsmd stops itself after start, try running it manually. Sep 09 07:22:34 PaulFertser: ahh now it works, great Sep 09 07:22:44 radekp: what was the culprit? Sep 09 07:22:56 PaulFertser: i just called some random GSM dbus function and it started automatically Sep 09 07:23:01 radekp: iirc you need /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freesmartphone.ogsmd.service Sep 09 07:23:47 radekp: ah, so it works just as expected, nice. Sep 09 07:24:36 JaMa|Off: yup, the file is there and seems ok Sep 09 07:36:58 one more question: how can i get number of SMS on SIM? I read that GetSimInfo should return "messages" with the count, but i dont see such key here Sep 09 10:53:59 radekp: just get them all and count? ;) Sep 09 10:55:25 lindi-: there is only function to get it by index Sep 09 10:56:04 lindi-: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.html;hb=HEAD#RetrieveMessage Sep 09 10:56:09 radekp: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/sms-dump Sep 09 10:57:15 lindi-: hmm it seems it's some other version of api, RetrieveMessagebook is no longer there Sep 09 10:58:17 lindi-: i can go from 0 until i hit error, but i dont like it... Sep 09 11:01:10 radekp: they removed API Sep 09 11:01:12 radekp: ? Sep 09 11:03:19 radekp: you can store messages at any index you like, so i don't think it's a good idea to get only the messages with the lowest indices Sep 09 11:04:13 lindi-: i dont know - i just know the API which is currently available... Sep 09 11:04:25 HeinervdmOff: right Sep 09 11:04:56 radekp: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.html;hb=HEAD#RetrieveTextMessages Sep 09 11:05:03 i think this is what you want Sep 09 11:06:22 HeinervdmOff: i am already using that, but now i want also to delete messages Sep 09 11:07:14 HeinervdmOff: and i havent found way how to find message obtained with RetrieveTextMessages on SIM Sep 09 11:07:24 radekp: that function returns the index of the message, so you can just call DeleteMessage with that index Sep 09 11:07:35 HeinervdmOff: the index is always 0 Sep 09 11:07:50 hmm, i think thats a bug :) Sep 09 11:08:19 mickeyl: ^ Sep 09 11:08:21 HeinervdmOff: and even if it was nonzero - one message can be stored on 2 and even more indices on SIM if the message is long Sep 09 11:08:41 radekp: that's right Sep 09 11:10:12 what does messages of http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.html;hb=HEAD#GetSimInfo contain? Sep 09 11:10:49 ({"slots": 20,"imsi": "230030035298760","issuer": "Vodafone CZ","used": 7,"phonebooks": "emergency aux:BD fixed aux:DC dialed received aux:LR aux:MT aux:AD contacts aux:SD missed aux:LM aux:AF own aux:UD"}) Sep 09 11:11:32 i think only useful is "slots: 20" here Sep 09 11:11:42 the messages parameter is missing Sep 09 11:11:46 yup Sep 09 11:11:58 20 should be the number of messages Sep 09 11:12:09 ah no the capacity Sep 09 11:16:46 radekp, HeinervdmOff: "used": 7 Sep 09 11:16:49 that's number of messages Sep 09 11:16:59 so on SIM are 7/20 messages Sep 09 11:23:55 dos1: hmm interesting there seem to be 8 SMS on sim actually Sep 09 11:24:25 dos1: and i have 6 contacts on sim, so i wonder where the 7 comes from Sep 09 11:31:03 pespin: any progress on http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/9999/ ? Sep 09 11:31:50 JaMa|Off, afair I send a second version and it got no answers... Sep 09 11:31:54 pespin: or rather http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/10127/ Sep 09 11:32:06 I see answer there :) Sep 09 11:33:37 yeah, me too now Sep 09 11:33:38 lol Sep 09 11:33:56 I'll try looking at it this weekend Sep 09 11:36:20 I've added enjoy patches to shr branch for now Sep 09 11:36:29 and updated status on patchwork for rest Sep 09 11:37:43 ok Sep 09 11:38:11 JaMa|Off, so I only need to look at lms reciperight? Sep 09 11:38:26 yes Sep 09 11:38:34 ok Sep 09 11:38:39 * pespin lunch Sep 09 11:38:54 enjoy patches will need to be updated after gstreamer packaging changes in oe-core Sep 09 11:50:13 does someone laredy setup netconsole onto an shr device ? Sep 09 12:10:18 moin Sep 09 12:10:59 moin :) Sep 09 12:11:56 moin! Sep 09 12:15:29 home is still the best place to visit :-) Sep 09 12:17:45 moin ;) Sep 09 12:18:32 mickey|office: hi, i dont know if you followed previous discussion, but would you like to help me with FSO & SMS messages on sim? Sep 09 12:33:18 radekp: i didn't follow it, no. what behaviour do you want to achieve? Sep 09 12:53:55 mickey|office: sorry had to go away Sep 09 12:54:44 mickey|office: i am calling RetrieveTextMessages() to get SMS messages - this works fine Sep 09 12:55:03 mickey|office: but now i would like to delete one such SMS from SIM Sep 09 12:56:18 so i wanted to enumerate all SMS on SIM and delete the one which matches Sep 09 12:56:52 but for enumerating i have just RetrieveMessage(int index) Sep 09 12:58:19 i can call it with index=0..slots count but then it will return also a lot of errors Sep 09 12:58:40 on indices which are empty Sep 09 13:05:13 mickey|office: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.html;hb=HEAD#RetrieveTextMessages should show the index of the message, but radekp says that the index is always 0 Sep 09 13:09:38 * radekp has to go away for few minutes Sep 09 13:16:44 I need some more help building shr-testing. "bitbak -k shr-image" ran for a while yesterday and then had some failures: Sep 09 13:16:46 http://pastebin.com/GYx84eY8 Sep 09 13:17:05 *bitbake Sep 09 13:18:24 * radekp is back Sep 09 13:22:11 jfthomps: you should update the checksum of binutils, upstream changed the file because of GPL violations Sep 09 13:22:36 i will have a look if i can fix testing this weekend Sep 09 13:23:24 do I do that by modifying binutils_2.20.1.bb? or, would it be more correct to create a new recipe for 2.20.1a? Sep 09 13:23:38 and if a new recipe is better, how do I tell bitbake to use that one instead? Sep 09 13:23:45 both would be correct Sep 09 13:23:55 ok Sep 09 13:23:55 bitbake will choose the newest one automatically Sep 09 13:23:59 gotcha Sep 09 13:24:39 hmm, it chose 2.20.1, but there is a recipe for 2.21 Sep 09 13:25:07 then in 2.21 there is a line like DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = -1 Sep 09 13:33:16 would it be ok to apply this patch? http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/0001-fsogsmd-dump-SMS-timestamp.patch Sep 09 13:34:26 i could match and delete SMS by timestamp which would be quite ok Sep 09 13:45:13 radekp: that patch looks ok Sep 09 13:45:43 the problem is that GetTextMessages is an abstraction that does not operate on the indices, since it handles concatenation and ignores binary SMS Sep 09 13:45:57 there should be a another set of APIs that operate on the direct content of SMS Sep 09 13:46:03 i thought we already had that Sep 09 13:47:05 mickey|office: can i try to commit it and push? Sep 09 13:47:14 radekp: yes, feel free to Sep 09 13:47:42 thanks, i never tried, so let's check if it will work :) Sep 09 13:52:59 mickey|office: do you know how the push url looks like? Sep 09 13:53:33 mickey@amethyst:/local/pkg/fso/cornucopia$ git remote show origin Sep 09 13:53:33 * remote origin Sep 09 13:53:33 URL: git@git.freesmartphone.org:cornucopia Sep 09 13:54:12 bbl, => home Sep 09 14:00:44 freesmartphone.org: 03psonek2 07cornucopia * r5530cf7f4d51 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/fsogsm3rdparty.vapi: fsogsmd: dump SMS timestamp Sep 09 14:54:28 SHR: 03dos 07shr-themes * r61071456de8d 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-gry/gry.edc: e-wm-theme-illume-gry: fix white letters on white buttons in illume-keyboard Sep 09 14:55:40 dos1: *g* Sep 09 14:56:42 JaMa|Off: i don't know how letters could be black before :x Sep 09 14:56:58 dos1: thx for that one :-) Sep 09 14:56:58 JaMa|Off: they had specified COLOR_WHITE :D Sep 09 14:57:06 hehe :) Sep 09 14:57:17 evil efl devs fixed something? :) Sep 09 14:57:23 so it seems like there was some bug before that got fixed ;) Sep 09 14:58:37 JaMa|Off, is the appshadow dir thing solved in new shr-core images? Sep 09 15:01:43 mrmoku, JaMa|Off: anyway, there are still small glitches with buttons which use graphics instead of text, and "selected" buttons like shift or ctrl Sep 09 15:02:09 pespin: appshadow yes.. $HOME not really Sep 09 15:02:41 JaMa|Off, what's the workaroudn for that? export HOME=/root in /etc/profile ? Sep 09 15:03:10 uh have to go, see you later Sep 09 15:04:27 dos1: at least the keyboard will be usable again :) Sep 09 15:04:28 * JaMa|Off has xorg-1.11.0 running on all devices now :) Sep 09 15:53:39 I was able to get binutils to build by changing the sigs in binutils_2.20.1.bb; now I need help with the next error at http://pastebin.com/GYx84eY8 Sep 09 15:54:45 the next error starts with line 67 in the pastebin Sep 09 15:55:26 gcc-4_5-branch_gcc.gnu.org_.svn.gcc.branches_166342_.tar.gz is no longer at http://build.shr-project.org/sources/ but more recent versions are Sep 09 15:55:36 but I can't find where to tell it to try a newer file Sep 09 15:56:01 jfthomps: it should checkout it itself with subversion Sep 09 15:56:16 that fails too :( Sep 09 15:56:18 jfthomps: so the real problem is: svn: Can't connect to host 'gcc.gnu.org': Invalid argument Sep 09 15:56:28 ah Sep 09 16:06:34 running "svn co 'http://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/branches;module=gcc-4_5-branch'" gives "svn: Can't connect to host 'gcc.gnu.org': Invalid argument" but "svn co -r 166342 http://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/branches/gcc-4_5-branch/" works; is there a way to manually issue that command and then have bitbake skip the download step? Sep 09 16:08:38 yes, but then I don't see the differenect for this 2 commands Sep 09 16:08:55 missing -r shouldn't cause "Can't connect to host" error Sep 09 16:09:28 oops, the first one should have been "svn co 'svn://209.132.180.131/svn/gcc/branches/gcc-4_5-branch/'" Sep 09 16:09:36 grr, wrong one again Sep 09 16:09:52 svn co 'svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/branches;module=gcc-4_5-branch' Sep 09 16:10:04 so, it seems to be svn:// vs http:// Sep 09 16:10:18 you're behind firewall or something? Sep 09 16:11:16 no, unless the svn port is blocked at our campus gateway - there are a handful of ports blocked there Sep 09 16:11:31 ah :/ Sep 09 16:11:42 mmt I'll fetch it to http://build.shr-project.org/sources/ for you Sep 09 16:12:07 ok - thanks; I'll do some testing for the svn port Sep 09 16:13:29 jfthomps: you can also get it from here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/gcc-4_5-branch_gcc.gnu.org_.svn.gcc.branches_166342_.tar.gz Sep 09 16:13:38 just download this file to downloads dir Sep 09 16:14:32 well, it's pulling it, but slowly Sep 09 16:14:44 ~50K/s Sep 09 16:15:23 shr buildhost is still parsing recipes :) Sep 09 16:18:28 strange, I can telnet to gcc.gnu.org 3690 Sep 09 16:23:40 jfthomps: tar.gz is ready on http://build.shr-project.org/sources/ Sep 09 17:27:08 fyi, things are plugging along again now Sep 09 17:27:22 maybe I'll have an image by Monday... Sep 09 18:44:27 hi, about om-gta02's touchscreen issue, there was a thread on the ml Sep 09 18:44:39 but I've the feeling that it works better than before with the finger Sep 09 18:44:55 so maybe its possible platform device values were obtimized for touch? Sep 09 18:47:25 GNUtoo|laptop: it's hw issue, but there was some patch grom gena2x to disable some clock (glamo?) to make it work a bit better Sep 09 18:47:44 or you can try to increase samples count Sep 09 18:47:46 ah Sep 09 18:48:34 I've no git kernel sources here right now Sep 09 18:48:45 but maybe something changed between 2.6.37 and 2.6.39 Sep 09 18:48:53 maybe Sep 09 18:50:53 because it worked better on 34 or 37 if I remember well Sep 09 18:56:30 That patch was interesting, afair it sampled during the vsync interval. At least there was such an idea. Sep 09 19:32:28 hello, does anybody know a working kernel.org mirror ? Sep 09 19:33:19 hi Sep 09 19:33:37 GNUtoo|laptop: hi Sep 09 19:34:41 i need udev sources to compile shr Sep 09 19:36:24 ah Sep 09 19:37:37 add them from a mirror Sep 09 19:37:37 like free.fr for instance Sep 09 19:37:37 and touch the .done Sep 09 19:37:37 in the sources dir Sep 09 19:41:24 GNUtoo|laptop: i dont speak french, where is the link ? Sep 09 19:41:41 let me find it Sep 09 19:42:08 ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/ Sep 09 19:44:51 GNUtoo|laptop: thank you Sep 09 19:51:31 GNUtoo|laptop: the recipe uses git , should i change it to use ftp ? Sep 09 19:51:46 hmmm Sep 09 19:51:50 at work we worked arround Sep 09 19:51:54 we used a mirror Sep 09 19:52:01 I don't remember the address tough Sep 09 19:52:31 GNUtoo|laptop: so using ftp may also work Sep 09 19:52:37 maybe ask in #oe Sep 09 19:52:45 if you need git Sep 09 19:52:52 basically an http mirror was found Sep 09 19:53:49 GNUtoo|laptop: thank you Sep 09 20:02:29 nschle85, I found a patch Sep 09 20:02:48 [oe] [meta-oe][PATCH] udev-173: use tar.gz instead of git checkout Sep 09 20:05:26 GNUtoo|laptop: thank you :-) Sep 09 20:06:23 it's on oe-dev ml Sep 09 20:26:12 radekp_, hi, Sep 09 20:26:12 at what point are you in the porting qtmoko to openembedded? Sep 09 20:29:24 GNUtoo|laptop: i am now back on debian - i decided that i dont want to learn another packaging system now ;-) Sep 09 20:30:10 GNUtoo|laptop: debian has fresh FSO packages so i will also do testing for debian Sep 09 20:30:16 radekp, at what point did you go before stopping? Sep 09 20:30:20 because I was interested in helping Sep 09 20:30:36 GNUtoo|laptop: i just built SHR from sources Sep 09 20:30:37 but only at the beginning(not at the long term maintaining of the packages) Sep 09 20:30:51 ok Sep 09 20:30:54 so no recipes were done Sep 09 20:31:17 GNUtoo|laptop: yup i didnt get that far Sep 09 20:31:26 ok Sep 09 20:31:43 GNUtoo|laptop: i guess it should not be very hard to package it - at least for debian it was very easy Sep 09 20:33:08 ok Sep 09 20:33:17 it's only one application? Sep 09 20:37:04 GNUtoo|laptop: yup Sep 09 20:37:07 nice Sep 09 20:37:13 where are the sources? Sep 09 20:37:45 GNUtoo|laptop: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko Sep 09 20:37:49 ah ok Sep 09 20:38:00 GNUtoo|laptop: there is README with howto for compiling Sep 09 20:38:05 * GNUtoo|laptop tough there was an official qtopia repo Sep 09 20:38:11 but maybe there isn't anymore Sep 09 20:38:49 IIRC there never was anything like that - Trolltech did only tarbal releases and their devel model was quite closed Sep 09 20:39:38 ah ok Sep 09 20:39:40 like android then Sep 09 20:40:20 GNUtoo|laptop: i dont know much about android now, but they at least have git repo... Sep 09 20:40:54 yes but they throw updates Sep 09 20:41:06 like 2.2 update is thrown Sep 09 20:41:12 people send patches after that Sep 09 20:41:13 ahh oki, i see Sep 09 20:41:18 then 2.3 update is thown etc... Sep 09 20:41:28 and in the commit message there is a huge commit Sep 09 20:41:34 that goes from 2.2 to 2.3 Sep 09 20:43:06 not very good, but i can understand it from the marketing point of view... Sep 09 20:45:46 radekp, about the fso part.... Sep 09 20:45:55 it's documented in README too? Sep 09 20:46:09 no - there is just how to build it Sep 09 20:46:16 ok Sep 09 20:46:27 can you tell me more how to activate fso dependances? Sep 09 20:46:52 GNUtoo|laptop: by default QtMoko is using it's own modem implementation, but it can be switched to FSO with environment variable Sep 09 20:46:59 ah ok Sep 09 20:47:08 so I build it the same way.... Sep 09 20:47:18 and I get FSO for free Sep 09 20:47:25 just changing that env variable at runtime Sep 09 20:47:42 one more question Sep 09 20:47:52 how much size the repos takes? Sep 09 20:47:56 I'm on 3g actually Sep 09 20:48:06 and I've 3GB/month for this month Sep 09 20:48:48 hmm it has also QT bundled... so it can be quite big Sep 09 20:48:56 https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/devices/neo/src/devtools/startup/qpe.env Sep 09 20:49:24 if you change "export QTOPIA_PHONE=AT" to "export QTOPIA_PHONE=Fso" it will use fso Sep 09 20:49:39 ok nice Sep 09 20:49:50 maybe I'll try tomorrow at the wifi cafee Sep 09 20:50:25 yup i it can be 500 MB Sep 09 20:51:26 ok thanks a lot Sep 09 20:56:25 let's say I succeed in building it Sep 09 20:57:30 can I run the build on different devices Sep 09 20:57:30 like greenphone Sep 09 20:57:31 or zaurusclammshell Sep 09 20:57:31 or are the built binaries+data device specific Sep 09 20:57:31 and that it needs to be recompiled for each devices Sep 09 20:59:58 ah no it seem device specific Sep 09 21:00:04 according to debian/rules Sep 09 21:00:27 well i was running the same binary on Neo and N900 Sep 09 21:00:31 ok Sep 09 21:00:48 cd ../build && "$(CONFIGURE)" -device neo Sep 09 21:00:48 except that the modem was disabled on N900 Sep 09 21:00:52 ahh ok Sep 09 21:00:59 it could work with fso tough.... Sep 09 21:01:35 that's what i wanted to try... Sep 09 21:01:41 GNUtoo|laptop: how do i apply the patch ? Sep 09 21:01:54 download it in mbox format from : Sep 09 21:02:28 http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/11265/mbox/ Sep 09 21:03:08 go in meta-openembedded Sep 09 21:03:10 git am the downloaded mbox patch Sep 09 21:04:50 GNUtoo|laptop: ok Sep 09 21:06:25 radekp, btw I saw bluetooth worked in qtmoko, but does bluetooth multiplexing work? Sep 09 21:06:35 for instance you play some music Sep 09 21:06:39 and a call arrives Sep 09 21:06:44 so it has to ring somewhere Sep 09 21:08:55 GNUtoo|laptop: hmm i am now not sure how it will work Sep 09 21:09:27 GNUtoo|laptop: you mean playing music on bluetooth headset with A2DP? Sep 09 21:10:07 I'll try Sep 09 21:13:10 GNUtoo|laptop: i just tested it separately - bt phone calls and A2DP works just fine, i am not sure how they work together... Sep 09 21:13:15 yes Sep 09 21:15:00 GNUtoo|laptop: ok, now udev builds :-) Sep 09 22:37:57 gnutoo: hi Sep 09 22:40:32 gnutoo: i have implemented basic sound switching (a named enum). http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5628/20110910023144731x484sc.png during the weekend i plan to fix some power management issues and clean up the driver so that you can test Sep 10 01:19:49 good night everyone **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 10 02:59:58 2011