**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 19 02:59:57 2011 Sep 19 08:10:37 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rcaf6641e3aca 10/ (524 files in 103 dirs): system upgrade Sep 19 08:21:32 moo Sep 19 08:28:16 iiin Sep 19 11:49:04 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rfde11f4b5b4b 10/ (20 files in 9 dirs): bitbake: remove 2 applied patches and disable exporting LD_LIBRARY_PATH for test Sep 19 15:21:00 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07cornucopia * rf73cd911068a 10/fsodeviced/conf/openmoko_gta/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) Sep 19 15:21:00 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: conf: openmoko: add alsa state files for the 2.6.39 kernel and make it the default Sep 19 15:21:00 freesmartphone.org: The new files were obtained by running theses 2 commands on every scenario: Sep 19 15:21:00 freesmartphone.org: mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.SetScenario Sep 19 15:21:01 freesmartphone.org: mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/Audio org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.PushScenario Sep 19 15:21:01 freesmartphone.org: And then doing a diff between the old scenario and the new one, Sep 19 15:21:02 freesmartphone.org: And then since the control names didn't change but only their position, I applied Sep 19 15:21:39 gah... wrong author :/ Sep 19 15:21:56 grr Sep 19 15:22:20 should I bump cornucopia rev now or later? :) Sep 19 15:23:34 * JaMa wants something shiny Sep 19 15:24:00 JaMa: bumpt it... now its broken anyway :) Sep 19 15:24:04 -t Sep 19 15:27:01 JaMa: btw. there is another app I miss very much in shr-core... irssi Sep 19 15:27:47 to which layer should that be added? meta-oe? Sep 19 15:28:45 JaMa: into recipes-connectivity? Sep 19 15:29:45 or into meta-shr/recipes-connectivity? Sep 19 15:33:24 * mrmoku dinner Sep 19 15:33:25 bbl Sep 19 15:36:38 mrmoku: meta-oe is fine Sep 19 15:37:38 mrmoku: but if you want to test it in meta-shr first, I'm fine with it.. we can move it to meta-oe later :) Sep 19 16:24:36 Hi all Sep 19 16:59:41 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r683c2bb85a61 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/cornucopia.inc: meta-fso: cornucopia: bump SRCREV Sep 19 17:20:56 heyho Sep 19 17:22:54 mickeyl: ping Sep 19 17:22:56 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cpp-rework * r75f553cddb81 10aurora/aurora-daemon/src/ (3 files): aurora-daemon: we don't need to versionize generated code files Sep 19 17:22:57 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cpp-rework * r185c93573c23 10aurora/aurora-daemon/src/ (application.cpp application.h): aurora-daemon: start with implementing application management interface Sep 19 17:58:52 hi Sep 19 17:58:59 hi morphis Sep 19 17:59:05 do you need any help? Sep 19 18:10:32 where can i get tzdata2011i.tar.gz ? My compilation doesn't go on due it :( Sep 19 18:12:46 hmmm Sep 19 18:12:51 maybe ask in oe channels Sep 19 18:13:31 ok,thank you Sep 19 18:17:01 gnutoo: sorry for breaking authorship in your patch Sep 19 18:18:11 ? Sep 19 18:18:15 what patch? Sep 19 18:18:17 where? Sep 19 18:18:38 the one with the states files? Sep 19 18:20:47 yup Sep 19 18:20:52 if it's the state files since I'm in the patch it's ok Sep 19 18:21:08 it's not like if you removed my name Sep 19 18:52:31 hmmm Sep 19 18:53:00 * gnutoo is thinking about the past.... Sep 19 18:53:15 like zauruses or openezx Sep 19 18:53:24 did openezx ever got successfull? Sep 19 18:53:53 the A780 seem well supported according to their status.... Sep 19 18:54:26 As it is a kernel project,i guess it is a successfull project... Sep 19 18:54:46 why power management is at 50%? Sep 19 18:54:55 * gnutoo tries to understand the big picture Sep 19 18:55:04 gnutoo: heyho Sep 19 18:55:13 angelox|laptop: heyho Sep 19 18:55:17 angelox|laptop: good you're here Sep 19 18:55:22 basically at first there were zaurus with a huge community Sep 19 18:55:31 then the community switched to the freerunner? Sep 19 18:55:31 angelox|laptop: I started today with the application management interface in the aurora-daemon Sep 19 18:55:44 and then the community got lost by android? Sep 19 18:55:51 morphis: hey hi :) Sep 19 18:55:59 hi morphis Sep 19 18:56:15 gnutoo: I will try to get the serial connection with the nexus s next weekend Sep 19 18:56:17 gnutoo: i don't know why powermanagement is that..ezx devices are too close iirc Sep 19 18:57:03 morphis: already reversed.... Sep 19 18:57:10 ask paulk_ Sep 19 18:57:14 gnutoo: i don't think so,at least here in Brazil,there are about 40 people asking me to port Android to it,still having a lot of ezx devices in brazil,so the community didn't went to android Sep 19 18:57:14 reversed? Sep 19 18:57:19 it's on replicant website Sep 19 18:57:25 yes it works.... Sep 19 18:57:28 ah ok Sep 19 18:57:30 yes I know Sep 19 18:57:31 morphis: i'm seeing right now your last commit Sep 19 18:57:39 but I will make it work with my device for debugging Sep 19 18:57:42 angelox|laptop: ok Sep 19 18:57:49 the bootloader is signed btw Sep 19 18:57:58 angelox|laptop: you have some time to create something like a application launcher? Sep 19 18:58:07 gnutoo: sadly ... Sep 19 18:58:07 http://trac.osuosl.org/trac/replicant/wiki/NexusSBootloader Sep 19 18:58:14 I already saw Sep 19 18:58:22 ok Sep 19 18:58:26 maybe we can ask samsung to get arround? Sep 19 18:58:42 hi! Sep 19 18:59:19 angelox|laptop: ok Sep 19 18:59:39 morphis: do you mean ask them to deliver a non-fused bootloader? Sep 19 18:59:42 gnutoo: but unfortunately i don't know any bit of porting android.. Sep 19 18:59:43 angelox|laptop: in europe it seem that everyone went to cyanogenmod.... Sep 19 18:59:55 angelox|laptop: it's very hard.... Sep 19 18:59:58 hey btw, RMS released the article about Android Sep 19 19:00:07 we had like 20 pingbacks on replicant website today Sep 19 19:00:12 paulk_: it's looked by hardware? Sep 19 19:00:12 you would need accelerated graphics etc... Sep 19 19:00:15 ok Sep 19 19:00:30 morphis: no, it's in the bootloader code I guess Sep 19 19:00:39 the i-fuse thing seems to be hardware Sep 19 19:00:46 morphis: time,i have,but i don't know how you would like the application launcher... Sep 19 19:01:01 mhh it's in the iROM Sep 19 19:01:11 so ask them to deliver a free iROM Sep 19 19:01:15 gnutoo: i see,for that reason i did create the project Metano Linux... Sep 19 19:01:28 angelox|laptop: I am thinking about a simple app grid Sep 19 19:01:41 and a app-launcher Sep 19 19:02:03 in replicant it's easy because the phones used are meant for android and that we have: Sep 19 19:02:05 anyway, it would be very hard to replace even if samsung decides to make an iROM+bootloader that won't look at the ifuse Sep 19 19:02:17 *most but not all the code for the device adaptation Sep 19 19:02:21 angelox|laptop: left picture: http://symbianworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Symbian-Anna-Icons-Themes-300x266.jpg Sep 19 19:02:24 gnutoo: but they could run an om-gta2 rootfs image into the a1200..they gave up using my project... Sep 19 19:02:27 *some reversed things by the community Sep 19 19:02:47 so we glue everything together, reverse some stuff etc...and it's doable Sep 19 19:03:27 morphis: i'm opening it (bad connection today) Sep 19 19:03:40 angelox|laptop: gta02, maybe very old version of android.... Sep 19 19:03:51 like 1.5 Sep 19 19:04:06 yes,1.5 or 1.6,IIRC Sep 19 19:04:09 1.5 is usable on freerunner Sep 19 19:04:09 and you'll need to adapt the kenrel Sep 19 19:04:18 adapt the userland to use the hardware Sep 19 19:04:20 etc.... Sep 19 19:04:30 it's a long work Sep 19 19:04:38 the main problem to they get smilling is make colors correct Sep 19 19:04:44 unless you find what you need on the internet Sep 19 19:04:54 ah, that's not an issue Sep 19 19:04:59 just adapt gralloc Sep 19 19:05:06 to use your format Sep 19 19:05:24 the problem would be the rest.... Sep 19 19:05:24 but there the problem starts Sep 19 19:05:51 it would be possible but it would require a lot of time Sep 19 19:05:52 1) The kernel which runs android isn't 18bpp fixed (so,anyway it wouldn't work) Sep 19 19:05:57 do you have that much time? Sep 19 19:06:07 2) the kernel which has 18bpp fixed doesn't boot up android Sep 19 19:06:20 no Sep 19 19:06:20 ok Sep 19 19:06:43 in that all time people would gave up too... Sep 19 19:06:43 morphis: ok,i'll start it soon.. Sep 19 19:06:57 I spent roughly 1 year doing the countrary with leviathan and mickeyl Sep 19 19:07:08 modifying from android to GNU/Linux Sep 19 19:07:13 and the result isn't so great Sep 19 19:07:44 I mean it's nearly unusable as it is Sep 19 19:08:07 to do a phonecall you must switch to the console because else your head press the hangup button Sep 19 19:08:22 like launch vala-terminal Sep 19 19:08:40 of course that could be fixed easily by rotating the screen Sep 19 19:08:42 but.... Sep 19 19:08:56 we have no dynamic (xrandr -o 1 ) rotation Sep 19 19:08:57 angelox|laptop: yeah, that would be really great Sep 19 19:09:07 so that makes the console in the wrong sense Sep 19 19:09:09 angelox|laptop: I hope I can continue with the aurora-daemon rework as fast as possible Sep 19 19:09:22 sliding keyboard with a portrait phone isn't great Sep 19 19:09:26 gnutoo: i see... Sep 19 19:10:17 to finish the port xrandr -o 1 should be added,shared memory communication should be fixed, kenrel should be ported forward to get wifi PSM Sep 19 19:10:22 morphis: ok,i'd like to help,but i need learn how to make beautiful codding in C++ (i prefer pure C,but it's not good for that{not usable i think}) Sep 19 19:10:28 and other stuff Sep 19 19:10:33 see the status in fso wiki Sep 19 19:11:06 i see... Sep 19 19:11:15 angelox|laptop: ok, we should talk about more details Sep 19 19:11:19 note that I took cold btw Sep 19 19:11:44 I'm trying to understand what happened and where to go next Sep 19 19:11:56 for GNU/Linux free software telephony Sep 19 19:12:38 the main problem is,Android is taking all telephony,and wp7 starting his life...i don't see no more any other device with a real GNU/Linux system... Sep 19 19:13:40 morphis: i think,for now we should just *port* aurora-daemon from python to qt/c++,then we can start thinking another features Sep 19 19:13:51 thats what I am doing Sep 19 19:14:02 in another hand android is getting more standard Sep 19 19:14:03 but I need to adjust the structure to be open for advanced features Sep 19 19:14:07 see the nexus S Sep 19 19:14:09 gnutoo: really? Sep 19 19:14:14 ok, kernel things Sep 19 19:14:15 I think so Sep 19 19:14:17 yes Sep 19 19:14:17 but not the userland Sep 19 19:14:20 userland sucks Sep 19 19:14:24 no, not at all Sep 19 19:14:29 userland doesn't even have a x terminal Sep 19 19:14:32 just the kenrel not the userland Sep 19 19:14:42 doesn't even has a busybox i guess :( Sep 19 19:14:44 we have terminal on replicant Sep 19 19:14:49 it has busybox too Sep 19 19:14:56 it's along with toolbox Sep 19 19:15:04 but that are details Sep 19 19:15:11 but just on replicant i think. or default android devices has it? Sep 19 19:15:12 the mains issues are kenrel ones Sep 19 19:15:27 you cannot easily run GNU/Linux on the first generation android devices Sep 19 19:15:58 gnutoo: you are right, kernel is the most import thing Sep 19 19:16:10 if the kernel is done right replacing the userland should be easy Sep 19 19:16:24 the rest, you remove it and change rootfs.... Sep 19 19:16:42 you also have some stuff like modem standardness etc...to take into account.... Sep 19 19:17:14 what use is the X terminal in android if you remove android.... Sep 19 19:17:15 gnutoo: btw, i've fixed nand boot issues on kovsky (rpc crashes). unfortunately i think i will mostly work on android now because X11 and SHR are unusable without accelerated X11 and video encoding and given the SoC age it looks stupid to invest another year or two in it Sep 19 19:17:34 hmmm Sep 19 19:18:07 it's about what said the kenrel people like the maintainer of msm/qsd? Sep 19 19:19:22 *also Sep 19 19:19:34 gnutoo: my opinion is that modern devices (omap4/tegra2) have decent drivers and by an order of magnitude less hacks in android so running gnu/linux on them is easier Sep 19 19:19:45 yes Sep 19 19:19:50 that's possible Sep 19 19:19:58 I don't care that much about msm Sep 19 19:20:14 I'm just obstinated and wanted to finish the port.... Sep 19 19:20:59 btw I was able to play videos on the htcdream.... Sep 19 19:21:10 they had to be converted specially for it tough Sep 19 19:28:31 btw did anyone found how to develop in vala with shr-core compilers Sep 19 19:28:52 for instance for cornucopia Sep 19 19:33:27 morphis: just a question: how can i create components for the applications? Sep 19 19:37:31 Hello, whoever does not like the touchscreen events problem in kernel 2.6.39-nodrm, please check my last patch in shr-devel mailing list Sep 19 19:38:36 Guest9665: hmm, how well does 2.6.39 work? Sep 19 19:38:51 now it works great !!! Sep 19 19:39:08 if you don't need GPS.... Sep 19 19:40:31 maybe I will try to fix that now :) Sep 19 19:41:39 Guest9665: does SD card work? Sep 19 19:41:43 yes Sep 19 19:41:44 Guest9665: what's your name? ;) Sep 19 19:41:53 Yoram Bar Haim Sep 19 19:42:09 last mail in the list... Sep 19 19:42:17 Guest9665: ok, that nickname is just bit difficult to remember :) Sep 19 19:42:40 I just forgot to type nickname, sorry Sep 19 19:43:05 ok Sep 19 19:43:44 this is actually the first kernel patch I send to public Sep 19 19:46:23 yoram: nice :-) Sep 19 19:47:14 Thanks, fills good to find my arms and legs in kernel code :) Sep 19 19:47:57 then keep up that good feeling and go ahead :D Sep 19 19:48:16 I will try, sure. Sep 19 19:52:21 morphis: when i try something like "import Aurora.Applications.Settings 1.0 as Settings" doesn't work... Sep 19 19:52:22 * angelox|laptop thinkgs Sep 19 19:52:27 * angelox|laptop thinks* Sep 19 20:03:36 hmmm Sep 19 20:03:49 I don't understand how to force 0x90 charge on the n900 Sep 19 20:04:04 there are 2 ways to detect the charger Sep 19 20:04:16 but once it's detected....what to do? Sep 19 20:04:23 0x90 means charging? Sep 19 20:04:27 yes Sep 19 20:04:31 hmm Sep 19 20:04:32 it's a status Sep 19 20:04:37 then i've a software problem Sep 19 20:04:41 because charging works..... Sep 19 20:04:44 but it's too slow Sep 19 20:04:53 and 0x90(wallcharger) was never implemented Sep 19 20:05:00 because a sys node was lacking at the time Sep 19 20:05:11 /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/charger Sep 19 20:05:40 that node detects if D+D- is short-cut isn't? Sep 19 20:06:32 it's the official wall charger Sep 19 20:06:58 the problem is not detecting that Sep 19 20:07:00 that's ok Sep 19 20:07:06 /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/charger detects that Sep 19 20:07:18 but it's rather what to do when it's detected Sep 19 20:08:15 I guess /sys/class/power_supply/isp1704/present also detects it Sep 19 20:08:41 as well as POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT in /sys/class/power_supply/isp1704/uevent Sep 19 20:10:00 mrmoku: do you remember? Sep 19 20:10:10 or maybe mickeyl who wrote that plugin Sep 19 20:13:35 DocScrutinizer51: hi Sep 19 20:39:07 I'll go bye Sep 19 20:42:58 SHR: 03denis 07meta-smartphone * rfa491d4c8e40 10/meta-palm/recipes-graphics/tslib/ (5 files in 3 dirs): meta-palm: fix tslib machine specific paths Sep 19 20:42:59 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r683c2bb85a61 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/cornucopia.inc: meta-fso: cornucopia: bump SRCREV Sep 19 20:42:59 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rfde15490e617 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): BSPs: switch from xserver-xorg to xserver-xf86(-dri)-lite Sep 19 20:42:59 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r7b1d3d42ee9c 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-2.6.39/om-gta02/defconfig: linux-openmoko-2.6.39: enable LIS302DL module Sep 19 20:42:59 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r3476b85eda51 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-2.6.39/shr.patch linux-openmoko_2.6.39.bb): linux-openmoko-2.6.39: fix touchscreen patch Sep 19 20:43:00 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r80c52d1a877c 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-graphics/mesa/ (mesa-dri/glamo.patch mesa-dri_7.11.bbappend): meta-openmoko: mesa-dri: add glamo support Sep 19 20:43:05 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r803a81d55238 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/shr.conf: shr: set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libx11-native Sep 19 20:48:40 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r3476b85eda51 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-2.6.39/shr.patch linux-openmoko_2.6.39.bb): linux-openmoko-2.6.39: fix touchscreen patch Sep 19 20:48:43 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r7b1d3d42ee9c 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-2.6.39/om-gta02/defconfig: linux-openmoko-2.6.39: enable LIS302DL module Sep 19 21:11:58 JaMa: "cp -ra" is redundant: -a implies -r Sep 19 21:12:54 cp -haaar , for talk like a pirate day ? Sep 19 21:38:01 Good Evening Sep 19 21:38:33 Good Evening Artox! Sep 19 21:38:54 I need some help on debugging the boot of shr Sep 19 21:39:00 some advice Sep 19 21:39:17 I managed to build it for x86 cpu Sep 19 21:39:21 and kernel loads fine Sep 19 21:39:30 then it starts system startup and crashes somewhere at opkg Sep 19 21:39:38 and I wonder how I could gain access to some log files Sep 19 21:39:48 how I could have them stored on the disk Sep 19 21:41:31 hmm Sep 19 21:42:37 * angelox|laptop tries hard to remember where(if) are opkg logs Sep 19 21:43:17 there's something at /var/log/opkg.log ? Sep 19 21:45:28 wait Sep 19 21:45:32 have to check it again Sep 19 21:45:40 filesystem is destroyed everytime Sep 19 21:46:30 i'd also try using another package manager,but that's hard without a working system Sep 19 21:46:36 yes Sep 19 21:46:51 I wonder what opkg does on first startup Sep 19 21:47:34 also I am sure I have to remove that symlink Sep 19 21:47:45 /var/log is a symlink to /var/volatile Sep 19 21:47:46 me too,it just shows "Configuring y..." "Configuring x..." :S Sep 19 21:47:46 or sth Sep 19 21:48:45 i think so Sep 19 21:51:48 angelox|laptop, it's just configuring packages Sep 19 21:52:02 angelox|laptop, as not everything can be done on the buildhost side Sep 19 21:52:24 dos1|N900: What kind of configuration? Sep 19 21:52:29 angelox|laptop, some postinst scripts run apps on target arch Sep 19 21:52:51 angelox|laptop, so they can't be run by buildhost due to different architecture Sep 19 21:52:58 angelox|laptop, typical postinst Sep 19 21:53:06 angelox|laptop, like after installing packages Sep 19 21:53:33 dos1|N900: ah...i see... Sep 19 21:54:27 dos1|N900: thanks... then what can't be done in buildhost,will be done at target Sep 19 21:54:40 yup Sep 19 21:59:13 not booting yet :( Sep 19 22:01:23 I have it Sep 19 22:01:36 package ffalarms postinst script returned status 1 Sep 19 22:01:53 and before Sep 19 22:02:23 Reloading system message bus config: Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to open socket: Function not implemented Sep 19 22:02:46 am I missing sth in kernel config? Sep 19 22:03:24 hmm kernel side isn't with me :) Sep 19 22:03:38 I cna see log files :) Sep 19 22:03:40 can* Sep 19 22:03:49 but no opkg.log Sep 19 22:03:57 The systems just hangs or it show some kernel message? Sep 19 22:04:03 no Sep 19 22:04:04 just hangs Sep 19 22:04:11 I oculd shoot a photo xD Sep 19 22:04:39 :) Sep 19 22:04:49 phonefsod.log Sep 19 22:04:53 2011.09.20 01:00:35.078294 [phonefsod] : 0: Unable to create socket: Function not implemented Sep 19 22:05:00 that sounds bad to me Sep 19 22:05:11 hmm Sep 19 22:05:22 Xorg.0.log Sep 19 22:05:28 [2216842.031] _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 Sep 19 22:05:34 your target has some modem devices related? Sep 19 22:05:41 or it's just a simple PC? Sep 19 22:05:43 my target has no modem Sep 19 22:05:46 its a netbook Sep 19 22:06:00 but its tsh about sockets Sep 19 22:06:03 xorg fails to open sockets Sep 19 22:06:46 maybe something wrong with kernel? Sep 19 22:06:54 i would check kernel config Sep 19 22:07:04 and for what should I search? Sep 19 22:07:13 dunno Sep 19 22:07:28 maybe just compare it with some big distro config Sep 19 22:07:51 but well Sep 19 22:08:05 some inet socket support would be good to check :D Sep 19 22:09:28 yeah Sep 19 22:09:31 checkign now Sep 19 22:10:07 oh I see Sep 19 22:10:14 networking support was completely unchecked :( Sep 19 22:10:15 shit Sep 20 01:21:05 freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07aurora * rc9895b11b05e 10/aurora-applications/ (6 files in 2 dirs): aurora-launcher: first implementation of launcher application Sep 20 01:21:07 freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07aurora * r60756beae3f0 10/aurora-applications/launcher/ (IconModel.qml Launcher.qml Makefile.am qmldir): Sep 20 01:21:07 freesmartphone.org: aurora-launcher: implement GridView as base for our launcher Sep 20 01:21:07 freesmartphone.org: - Create addLauncher function. This will create a element in Grid containing it's ICON,NAME and ID Sep 20 01:21:07 freesmartphone.org: - Create removeLauncher function. Remove launchers by getting it's ID and it's INDEX Sep 20 01:21:07 freesmartphone.org: - Pre-Implement loadApplications inside the GridView,need some more adjusts Sep 20 01:34:45 good night everyone **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 20 02:59:56 2011