**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 21 02:59:57 2011 Sep 21 06:27:11 moin _and_ good morning ;) Sep 21 07:53:28 * DocScrutinizer WB everybody Sep 21 07:56:14 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r81ffff6621bd 10/ (1304 files in 39 dirs): system upgrade Sep 21 07:58:13 SHR: 03sylvain.pare 07shr-makefile * rd88056a6e209 10/Makefile: Makefile : checks and warns about changes on config files Sep 21 08:39:15 moin Sep 21 08:57:41 moin Sep 21 09:08:41 JaMa|Off: does shr-core can be already built for palmpre2 machine ? (I am currently doing so but as meta-palm is not in bblayers.Conf...) Sep 21 09:19:16 GarthPS: there is meta-palm in bblayers.conf Sep 21 09:19:45 and I haven't tried it myself Sep 21 09:20:02 * JaMa|Off building only om-gta02, nokia900 and spitz Sep 21 09:21:20 JaMa|Off: my bad :). ok then I am trying it :) . I am still willing to hunt down * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package locale-base-en-gb. for aurora building by the way . Sep 21 09:34:19 good morning everyone Sep 21 09:34:57 morning Sep 21 09:36:03 wow,i did leave my laptop compiling shr-core whole night and it still "Running task 2948 of 6547" :( Sep 21 09:40:55 angelox|laptop: better to start with shr-lite-image and then build the rest Sep 21 09:44:28 yes,i did start with it (i wrote wrong in my last message,sorry) Sep 21 10:03:07 moin Sep 21 13:00:59 GarthPS: yup, it's explicit enough.. that's why I've merged it in current form :) Sep 21 13:01:38 JaMa|Off: ;) Sep 21 16:43:57 just curious, has anyone tried or had any success with building aurora for om-gta02 Sep 21 16:59:17 lg_quassel: as far as I know it is not yet supported Sep 21 17:00:47 cf http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Aurora/Announcement Sep 21 17:01:45 yes, I've read that, I just wasn't sure if anyone had stepped up since to work on support Sep 21 17:03:11 lg_quassel: not the priority yet. but if you want to help you are welcome Sep 21 17:09:48 hmm, maybe I'll try (even though I may fail, not have enough time to invest in actually getting it working, etc) Sep 21 17:31:18 hi mrmoku Sep 21 17:32:18 hi GNUtoo Sep 21 17:32:43 mrmoku, do you remember the n900 battery charging Sep 21 17:33:00 we now have the lacking sysfs node and 2 other ways to know if we're on charger or on usb cable Sep 21 17:33:18 so I re-read the various charging scripts Sep 21 17:33:22 and the vala implementation.... Sep 21 17:33:30 but I didn't find how to charge at 0x90 Sep 21 17:33:57 hmm Sep 21 17:34:29 IIRC that might yet be unimplemented Sep 21 17:36:34 it was implemented in the scripts if I remember well Sep 21 17:36:34 it charged way faster @0x90 Sep 21 17:44:28 I think I must ask to DocScrutinizer Sep 21 17:44:28 he might know better than me Sep 21 17:44:30 or than everyone else Sep 21 17:44:38 I may also need to read the specs Sep 21 17:50:56 GarthPS: I guess I'll just give it a go and see how far it builds Sep 21 17:53:52 angelox|laptop: hi Sep 21 17:54:00 angelox|laptop: privet :-) Sep 21 17:54:49 nschle85: priviet :) Sep 21 17:55:06 nschle85: sorry,gmail gave me a problem when i tried to reply you,uboot worked finely,thanks :) Sep 21 17:55:25 that i wanted to know Sep 21 17:55:30 that Sep 21 17:55:32 is Sep 21 17:56:49 if you need an image: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins Sep 21 17:57:07 http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-n900/ws/ Sep 21 17:58:05 nschle85: thank you very much Sep 21 17:58:29 this is the complete build environment on my build server Sep 21 17:58:49 i see... Sep 21 17:58:53 you can also browse the console output of build Sep 21 17:59:27 http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-n900/5/console Sep 21 17:59:40 this is the output of the 5th build Sep 21 17:59:59 there are alo builds available for gta02 Sep 21 18:00:16 on the left side you see when the build was done Sep 21 18:00:25 yes,i see.. Sep 21 18:00:31 but i do not have a gta02 :) Sep 21 18:01:09 angelox|laptop: the path to the packages and images is this: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-n900/ws/shr-core/tmp/deploy/ Sep 21 18:01:50 its the same directory structure like local builds with Makefile from JaMa: Sep 21 18:02:06 hope this helps you to setup your build environmant Sep 21 18:02:29 yes,it will! thanks again :-) Sep 21 18:04:26 angelox|laptop: there are 2 things you have to care: the feeds for opkg points to the shr build server Sep 21 18:04:40 and if a build fails, no image is available Sep 21 18:05:10 ill change that later so that the old packages are only removed a succesful build Sep 21 18:05:17 after Sep 21 18:05:45 ok Sep 21 18:06:01 nschle85: just curious, what are your build server specs (CPU and RAM) Sep 21 18:08:28 lg_quassel: model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1212 HE Sep 21 18:09:46 lg_quassel: 2GB Sep 21 18:09:58 lg_quassel: what is curious ? Sep 21 18:11:11 because I'm wasn't sure how long it's take to potentially get a build on the server I'm using Sep 21 18:11:51 a complete build (no incremental) takes round about 13h Sep 21 18:12:29 it's also using -j 3 or so right? Sep 21 18:12:54 lg_quassel: -j4 Sep 21 18:13:08 on a 2 core machine? Sep 21 18:13:18 and 4 parallel bb tasks Sep 21 18:14:03 lg_quassel: its the default in the config script i seed the # away thats the reason Sep 21 18:14:14 http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-n900/buildTimeTrend Sep 21 18:39:18 oh, JaMa, I forgot to mention, I've got a Arch Linux chroot setup in CentOS, and ping & svn both work (both of which fail in the shr-chroot) I'm not exactly sure what the issue is Sep 21 18:41:08 honestly though, since this arch chroot seems to be working for me, I'm not too concerned about the shr one Sep 21 19:16:06 JaMa: hello, i still have the problem loading et8ek8 firmware, do you have the same problem ? Sep 21 19:28:26 JaMa: ok, found the problem :-) Sep 21 19:28:53 JaMa: another firmware is requestet than i copied from maemo Sep 21 19:29:55 JaMa: ups, no i have read some wrong Sep 21 19:33:55 * angelox|laptop is happy: NOTE: package shr-lite-image-2.0-r18: task do_rootfs: Started Sep 21 19:35:01 angelox|laptop: :-) Sep 21 19:52:33 angelox|laptop: :) I'm unfortunately only to: Running task 540 of 3216 git-native-1.7.5.1-r3: do_compile Sep 21 19:53:51 lg_quassel: i am still running the full image Sep 21 19:59:30 lg_quassel: curiosity: what is your hardware (cpu,ram) ? Sep 21 19:59:59 my Intel Core i3 2GB took yesterday-night to now :) Sep 21 20:00:08 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5420 @ 2.50GHz (quad core) and 2 Gb ram Sep 21 20:00:45 Wow,it'll take a lot less than my time :) Sep 21 20:01:19 angelox|laptop: lg_quassel: AMD AMD AMD Sep 21 20:01:39 nschle85: :) Sep 21 20:01:57 well, the box isn't technically mine so I had no choice in the hardware Sep 21 20:02:04 nschle85: my last AMD was an 1GHz old iirc :) Sep 21 20:02:43 angelox|laptop: at home i have AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor Sep 21 20:02:57 lg_quassel: anyway is a great hardware (mine,before this one, was an Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 ) Sep 21 20:03:00 angelox|laptop: costs 80€ Sep 21 20:03:45 nschle85: as main PC ? Sep 21 20:04:04 angelox|laptop: yes Sep 21 20:04:34 * angelox|laptop doesn't know almost nothing about AMD,his life was based in Intel :D Sep 21 20:04:38 nschle85: it's good? Sep 21 20:04:56 3GHz 4 cores Sep 21 20:05:18 wow Sep 21 20:05:39 * angelox|laptop is going to cry,he can't buy a Intel Core i7 :( Sep 21 20:05:41 2x 6028.03 Bogomips Sep 21 20:05:55 angelox|laptop: the basic rule-of-thumb is AMD gives the most bang-per-buck, but intel typically seems to out perform (for CPU's in the similar price range) Sep 21 20:06:49 angelox|laptop: why ? cant buy i7 ? Sep 21 20:07:12 nschle85: i7 is a good processor,isn't ? Sep 21 20:07:14 lg_quassel: i see... Sep 21 20:07:25 angelox|laptop: think so Sep 21 20:07:35 angelox|laptop: but very expensive Sep 21 20:07:49 nschle85: yes,then i said,i can't buy one :) very expensive Sep 21 20:08:57 heh, i7-extreme is still priced at around $1000 Sep 21 20:09:11 here you can compare prices and speed: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ Sep 21 20:09:21 though, I think it's a descent update from the last time I looked at it Sep 21 20:10:30 a non-extreme edition is also good :) Sep 21 20:20:42 are you all aware of http://smolts.org that collects hardware usage information? Sep 21 20:23:39 heh, I think I used to opt-in for submitting my info, but I don't know that I ever actually went to the website Sep 21 20:26:06 hmm, or maybe it was just on some of our servers at work... Sep 21 20:30:30 angelox|laptop: is image finished ? Sep 21 20:31:01 yes,but i'm compiling a full Sep 21 20:31:04 and Sep 21 20:31:17 my n900 won't boot maemo,and i have no microSD adapter,so i can't test :s Sep 21 20:31:51 why does it not boot maemo = Sep 21 20:31:54 ? Sep 21 20:32:17 angelox|laptop: uboot should work now Sep 21 20:32:21 My N900 is problematic,when you do press power on,some secounds after it powers off Sep 21 20:32:38 uboot works,boots shr,but not maemo due some magic reason Sep 21 20:32:55 i did flash my device 3 times and still with that problem Sep 21 20:33:23 angelox, did you type: run maemo ? Sep 21 20:33:50 nschle85: neither without uboot it boots maemo,then won't work with uboot Sep 21 20:34:28 angelox|laptop: but that problem was fixed, i had the same problem like you Sep 21 20:36:14 the thing is: when n900 want,it boots,when it doesn't want,it doesn't boot :( Sep 21 20:36:21 with or without uboot Sep 21 20:36:24 same thing Sep 21 20:36:41 angelox|laptop: puhhh Sep 21 20:36:54 so its not an uboot problem ? Sep 21 20:37:01 not Sep 21 20:37:41 angelox|laptop: you should try to get a new from nokia Sep 21 20:37:51 how? Sep 21 20:38:01 angelox|laptop: guarante ? Sep 21 20:38:08 techinnical centers in Brazil are really sh1t Sep 21 20:38:16 for example Sep 21 20:38:19 my charging problem Sep 21 20:38:45 if they see the bars from charge status moving,they say: "We haven't found any problem". Sep 21 20:38:57 or they say "it's a software problem,we did update it" Sep 21 20:39:29 angelox|laptop: the software did not change since monthssss :-) Sep 21 20:40:04 and you have booting problems with maemo / nolo bootloader ? Sep 21 20:40:51 yes,but i can't say that for they Sep 21 20:40:51 they're 'flashers' instead 'techinnians' Sep 21 20:41:06 yes,for now,that problem,maemo only does boot when it want Sep 21 20:41:19 i won't send it again to warranty.they will give me a E7.. Sep 21 20:42:19 angelox|laptop: you should try to send to warranty if they give you an e7 force your money back and buy a used one Sep 21 20:42:33 maybe Sep 21 20:42:42 2km from home to warranty :S Sep 21 20:43:03 2KM,or 4KM,i don't remember Sep 21 20:44:06 angelox|laptop: here very good used n900 are sold for 200€ i bought one for 130€ Sep 21 20:45:17 nschle85: a N900 battery costs about USD90 here,my phone i got for 500USD (converted) Sep 21 20:45:24 will be hard to find a used n900 Sep 21 20:45:56 angelox|laptop: what costs shipping to brazil and tax ? Sep 21 20:47:03 dunno Sep 21 20:47:10 i think i'll get the E7 one and hack it :) Sep 21 20:48:15 angelox|laptop: sell it and buy a used N900 :-) Sep 21 20:48:30 yes :) Sep 21 20:48:46 or other one phone Sep 21 20:48:57 like N9.. Sep 21 20:49:06 but i love n900 :) Sep 21 20:49:45 i love n900 too (n9 will have signed bootloader and has no keyboard) Sep 21 20:50:16 angelox|laptop: here in europe we do not understand what nokia is doing Sep 21 20:51:18 nschle85: fallout from the elopocalypse Sep 21 20:51:24 nschle85: signed bootloader Sep 21 20:52:00 sorry,xfce crashed Sep 21 20:52:06 did i miss something? Sep 21 20:52:26 nschle85: ? Sep 21 20:53:22 * angelox|laptop check logs Sep 21 20:53:32 dos1: ! Sep 21 20:53:45 nschle85: i mean "signed bootloader?" :D Sep 21 20:53:57 lol :) Sep 21 20:55:11 dos1: i have read it Sep 21 20:55:32 dos1: but i do not remenber where Sep 21 20:56:07 * angelox|laptop will bbl Sep 21 21:01:08 it's kind of funny that the only issues I've (for the most part) that I've hit with this bitbake build, have been from kernel.org being down and not being able to download a file Sep 21 21:02:36 dos1: the other thing i read and i did not rememember ist that N9 does not really run meego but Nokia meego: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9 see section "meego" please Sep 21 21:02:59 yup, i know that Sep 21 21:03:08 that's harmattan Sep 21 21:03:09 dos1: the issue about signed boot loader ill google Sep 21 21:03:24 but i thought bootloader would be similar to n900's one Sep 21 21:03:37 dos1: i dont know Sep 21 21:10:46 my n900 shows the RD flags \:D/ which is a success on my device :/ Sep 21 21:11:55 playya_: ? Sep 21 21:12:05 broken for some weeks Sep 21 21:12:11 had to use my pre Sep 21 21:12:18 and flash a fiasco image Sep 21 21:15:00 btw. what's the "next device" after n9x0 and HP* 'death? Sep 21 21:16:13 i'd like to know too Sep 21 21:16:43 imho some HTC device Sep 21 21:16:57 with hardware keyboard of course Sep 21 21:17:02 playya_: gta04 Sep 21 21:17:04 ;) Sep 21 21:17:09 playya_: i think tooo HTC will be a target platform Sep 21 21:17:51 dos1: no, i need hardware keyboard and non bevel borders Sep 21 21:19:00 dos1, I want to keep my Freerunner untouched Sep 21 21:19:44 playya_: i have a gta02 with most hardware bugs available :-) Sep 21 21:19:55 hehe Sep 21 21:20:14 i have one with fixed buzz and the other thingy Sep 21 21:20:38 playya_: wow next generation gta02 :-) Sep 21 21:20:57 hehe. but broken battery and touchscreen Sep 21 21:23:15 playya_: i have bought a second battery because of battery loading bug :-) Sep 21 21:23:30 I really needs to do the buzz fix on his gta02, but I'm ill-equiped to try to tackle that Sep 21 21:23:42 err my Sep 21 21:24:51 lg_quassel: our Freerunner seller is offering the fixes but it costs a lot of money Sep 21 21:25:56 I got my fix @ 25c3 Sep 21 21:26:13 few euros and one screwdriver :( Sep 21 21:26:58 playya_: why are u unhappy ? Sep 21 21:27:23 maybe he did a mistake between ( and ) :) Sep 21 21:28:08 because i forgot to get my screwdriver back ^^ Sep 21 21:33:03 playya_: i send you a screw driver and youll apply a buz fix to my phone ? Sep 21 21:34:42 i'm going to ccc congress this year, too. maybe the FEM guy will be there, too Sep 21 21:35:10 nschle85: price is the main reason I've avoided sending it to someone to do the buzz fix (I think Golden Delicious offers it for 40€) Sep 21 21:36:04 oh, plus shipping, which I imagine will be quite expensive from here in the US Sep 21 21:36:20 lg_quassel: i know godelico is near where i l life but its very expensive Sep 21 21:36:44 you live near munich? Sep 21 21:39:57 playya_: yes, i moved this year from munich 25 km away Sep 21 21:40:28 before i lived 11 years in munich Sep 21 21:48:47 playya_: and where do you live ? Sep 21 21:49:16 villingen im schwarzwald Sep 21 21:51:13 playya_: you are living in a black wood :-) Sep 21 21:51:29 black forest, germany ;) Sep 21 21:51:45 that's the reason to use the german name Sep 21 21:52:40 playya_: black wood forrst Sep 21 21:52:43 forrst Sep 21 21:52:48 forrest Sep 21 21:52:55 i buy an e Sep 21 22:58:43 dos1|N900: ping Sep 21 22:59:20 nschle85, pong Sep 21 23:01:50 dos1|N900: i am currently having a problem loading firmware for et8ek8 do you know that its a commonproblem ? Sep 21 23:02:13 nschle85, which problem? Sep 21 23:06:45 dos1|N900: [ 65.789703] et8ek8 3-003e: can't load firmware et8ek8-0002.bin Sep 21 23:07:51 dos1|N900: the firmware is located in /lib/firmware/ Sep 21 23:08:01 nschle85, at boot, delaying it? Sep 21 23:08:16 ah, nvm Sep 21 23:08:21 that was something different Sep 21 23:08:32 dunno Sep 21 23:08:41 do you have udev or devtmpfs? Sep 21 23:09:19 dos1|N900: at the moment udev i compilded latest image but udev is still im my image Sep 21 23:10:01 dunno, here it works Sep 21 23:10:37 so i should clean all udev bb and compile again Sep 21 23:13:20 dos1|N900: ok ill try again tomorrow (today) Sep 21 23:13:30 good nicght Sep 21 23:13:34 night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 22 02:59:56 2011