**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 10 02:59:57 2011 Oct 10 07:20:00 DocScrutinizer: ping Oct 10 09:34:14 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r436d61dd99c0 10/ (86 files in 15 dirs): system upgrade Oct 10 09:43:53 GNUtoo: hi Oct 10 09:44:01 hi Oct 10 09:44:16 GNUtoo: if you have meta-openembedded-contrib/shr from yesterday, please don't upgrade Oct 10 09:44:22 GNUtoo: and send me top 2 patches Oct 10 09:44:29 why? Oct 10 09:44:44 * JaMa accidentaly pushed it without those 2 Oct 10 09:44:50 and I don't have them locally Oct 10 09:45:00 ok Oct 10 09:45:12 you did push -f ? Oct 10 09:45:27 those 2 should be xserver-common from you and something from morphis Oct 10 09:45:33 ok Oct 10 09:45:41 yes I always have to, because this branch is rebased on top of master Oct 10 09:46:04 and "git pull --rebase" tracks only my local branch Oct 10 09:46:32 so now when morphis is also pushing to oe-core-contrib/shr and meta-oe-contrib I always have to "git merge contrib/shr" before pull --rebase.. Oct 10 09:46:37 ok I have them Oct 10 09:47:08 one commit is from me Oct 10 09:47:21 and the other is from me and morphis who modified it later and pushed it Oct 10 09:47:31 since I've key issues on oe servers Oct 10 09:47:36 (my key was destroyed) Oct 10 09:48:11 I know Oct 10 09:49:02 I'll send you the commits trough mail Oct 10 09:49:22 btw did the armv6-novfp commit made it in the shr contrib? Oct 10 09:49:24 thanks and sorry about that Oct 10 09:49:55 oe-core-contrib/shr had only 2 qt patches Oct 10 09:50:24 sent Oct 10 09:50:35 I don't mean QT Oct 10 09:50:41 I mean the tune file Oct 10 09:50:47 so no Oct 10 09:50:48 the patch that I sent to shr-devel Oct 10 09:50:59 I need it for htcdream Oct 10 09:51:08 I'll apply it now Oct 10 09:51:19 thanks Oct 10 09:51:34 maybe I should try it more tough Oct 10 09:51:45 since the kernel of the htcdream doesn't fetch yet.... Oct 10 09:51:50 I couldn't test at runtime Oct 10 09:54:10 thanks, pushed all 3 Oct 10 09:55:56 thanks Oct 10 10:05:03 JaMa, btw we had an issue with nexus S yesterday: Oct 10 10:05:33 the .e/e/appshadow or something like that points to a directory that doesn't exist Oct 10 10:05:37 that sound familiar Oct 10 10:10:20 JaMa: I have appshadow issues with the latest image on gta02 too I think Oct 10 10:10:31 application icons are not there on boot Oct 10 10:10:43 after right click -> refresh all is fine Oct 10 10:12:16 we *must* make an usable image for [RUI] Oct 10 10:12:29 else we'll have huge trouble Oct 10 10:12:42 because he wants to fix only if the rest is usable Oct 10 10:13:50 I found an old bl-5c at home Oct 10 10:14:12 yesterday I tried to discharge it and it lasted at least 2 hours Oct 10 10:14:15 I didn't try more Oct 10 10:17:30 captainigloo, hi Oct 10 10:18:30 mrmoku: pong Oct 10 10:19:13 hey :) Oct 10 10:20:02 DocScrutinizer: what I need is case (gta01 case is fine... even better because it has 2 speakers?), lcm, vibra motor, the buttons and the antennae Oct 10 10:20:45 the cases usually have no white silly with speakers Oct 10 10:21:07 white silly? Oct 10 10:21:26 the big white void (plastic) Oct 10 10:22:21 I don't have any gta01 (well just one) case with speakers Oct 10 10:22:29 ok Oct 10 10:23:04 I think your case body is a gta02 one with speaker though Oct 10 10:23:27 the one you want to sell me you mean? Oct 10 10:23:47 yes Oct 10 10:23:57 good Oct 10 10:24:07 just found it's not yet got a white void Oct 10 10:24:17 will find one for it Oct 10 10:45:43 GNUtoo: hi Oct 10 10:46:56 captainigloo, do you still develop the keyboard for phones with capacitive touchscreens? Oct 10 10:50:07 btw did you find what you were looking for, for java in oe-core? Oct 10 10:51:26 GNUtoo: nope for the keyboard Oct 10 10:51:30 an no for java Oct 10 10:51:46 ok Oct 10 10:51:52 where is the keyboard already? Oct 10 10:51:59 for java, i will try to install the ipk of 2003-maintenance Oct 10 10:52:04 because I've 2 capacitive phones: nexus one and nexus S Oct 10 10:52:08 and see if it works Oct 10 10:52:09 ok Oct 10 10:52:15 ok Oct 10 10:52:30 so you didn't contact woglinde Oct 10 10:52:36 not yet Oct 10 10:52:55 and will see if i can do with binary packages Oct 10 10:53:01 ok Oct 10 10:53:22 if not i will maybe contact him Oct 10 10:53:42 i need to see here, how to do ... it's a bit complicated Oct 10 10:54:21 for the keyboard, i'm using bodhi linux on a tablet Oct 10 10:54:35 ok Oct 10 10:54:36 and keyboard is running fine, Oct 10 10:54:41 at least it's usable Oct 10 10:54:43 ok Oct 10 10:54:52 btw for elfe you didn't push the last version Oct 10 10:55:11 hum wich one ? Oct 10 10:55:13 GNUtoo: appshadow dir should be created in volatile and shr-wizard should do it, after this fix http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=commit;h=6bb6b02fbb804c6185129e2c3f57fef9ffd98ff0 Oct 10 10:55:29 captainigloo, I saw videos with compositing Oct 10 10:55:35 with a card-like interface Oct 10 10:55:40 if I remember well Oct 10 10:55:45 JaMa, ok I'll retry Oct 10 10:55:57 it's commited Oct 10 10:56:02 ok Oct 10 10:56:07 how do I activate it then Oct 10 10:56:23 but as as I said, you need 32bpp screen Oct 10 10:56:31 I have that Oct 10 10:56:36 and activate e17 composite Oct 10 10:56:36 on nexus S Oct 10 10:56:42 I did that too Oct 10 10:56:45 software or hardware Oct 10 10:56:49 software Oct 10 10:56:55 and the you need to map the elfe action on a key Oct 10 10:57:15 you can use the e config dialogs Oct 10 10:57:26 load modules if it's not the case on shr Oct 10 10:58:07 load settings->Input control settings Oct 10 10:58:25 and map the elfe windows list action to a key Oct 10 10:59:12 ok Oct 10 10:59:14 thanks Oct 10 10:59:18 I'l try Oct 10 10:59:21 i don't know how it's done on bodhilinux, but IIRC, there is a illume button near the keyboard button on top Oct 10 10:59:26 ok Oct 10 10:59:29 I'll eat Oct 10 10:59:31 bbvs Oct 10 10:59:39 ok see you laute Oct 10 10:59:41 later Oct 10 11:09:56 back Oct 10 11:10:27 captainigloo, yes but to what I should map the key? Oct 10 11:10:31 a command? Oct 10 11:10:41 let me boot the nexus S Oct 10 11:13:03 e action Oct 10 11:13:14 there is an action specific for elfe Oct 10 11:14:01 ok Oct 10 11:29:40 captainigloo, thanks a lot!!! Oct 10 11:35:39 GNUtoo: it works ? Oct 10 11:35:53 somehow Oct 10 11:35:59 problem with my key Oct 10 11:36:12 but apart that it display what it has to display Oct 10 11:36:24 it's like if the key was pressed and not released Oct 10 11:36:32 but I guess that's another problem Oct 10 11:36:36 let me try on nexus one Oct 10 11:36:45 I remember getting it to work Oct 10 12:08:00 JaMa, can I push a change(add lic files chksum + bump srcrev) for emtooth2 if it fails at runtime(maybe related to fso rather than emtooth2) Oct 10 12:12:28 GNUtoo: yes Oct 10 12:16:25 thanks Oct 10 13:10:00 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r5d470f7f9b2a 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/emtooth2_svn.bb: meta-shr: emtooth2: add LIC_FILES_CHKSUM and bump SRCREV Oct 10 13:10:10 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * rc5299c7d3d6e 10/meta-htc/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-nexusone/nexusone/defconfig: meta-htc: linux-nexusone: add defconfig Oct 10 13:10:10 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * rc2699e896295 10/meta-samsung/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-samsung-crespo/defconfig linux-samsung-crespo_git.bb): meta-samsung: linux-samsung-crespo: update defconfig and cleanup recipe Oct 10 13:49:25 GNUtoo: signed-off-by is required whenever you commit something -- also if it's a patch you got from someone else Oct 10 13:50:25 also, the committer *never* needs to put an acked-by -- the fact that you commit it is obviously an ACK :-) Oct 10 13:51:21 acked-by means someone else who has a say in it considers it OK Oct 10 14:00:02 antrik, did I forget the sign-off somewhere? Oct 10 14:00:17 ok Oct 10 14:04:54 I must go sorry Oct 10 14:05:01 thanks for the infos, Oct 10 14:05:21 I should read more about theses rules Oct 10 14:05:32 (sign-off , acked-by etc...) Oct 10 14:05:44 if I remember well signed-off is certificate of origin Oct 10 14:06:02 so if you sign-off it means that you can certify the provenance Oct 10 14:06:06 now I remember Oct 10 14:06:20 so I told wrong things to morphis Oct 10 14:06:30 but I didn't know for the commit ACK Oct 10 14:06:33 bye Oct 10 14:08:32 mrmoku: I'm not sure about GTA04, but at least GTA02 board doesn't fit with the GTA01 speaker assembly... and considering that GTA04 is supposed to be a replacement for GTA02 boards, it's quite possible that it will only work with the GTA02 speaker assembly as well Oct 10 14:19:37 antrik: no, it works fine within gta01 cases too Oct 10 14:21:42 OK Oct 10 14:21:55 does it actually have connectors for the second speaker, or will it only be a dummy in this case? Oct 10 14:22:09 it _should_ be stereo then Oct 10 14:22:27 if they made no mistake Oct 10 14:22:38 nice Oct 10 14:22:52 at least that's what Nikolaus told me via email Oct 10 15:01:17 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * ra76b5bf6ef9d 10/meta-shr/conf/distro/shr.conf: SHR: potential fix for multimachine builds rebuilding from scratch after every MACHINE switch Oct 10 15:05:44 pespin, hi Oct 10 15:06:52 pespin, I made emtooth2 compile with oe-core today, but it doesn't work at runtime on om-gta02, could you look at it Oct 10 15:07:18 basically I just added a license checksum and bumped to last rev Oct 10 15:13:56 hi JaMa Oct 10 15:14:07 how to get g_ether loaded automatically? Oct 10 15:14:17 it's for nexusone Oct 10 15:17:52 basically I do horizontal integration Oct 10 15:18:04 I try to fix the exact same thing for every device I have Oct 10 15:18:42 btw I was told I was doing wrong xorg.conf because I indicated the device like that: device "/dev/input/foo" Oct 10 15:33:35 GNUtoo, run log please? :P Oct 10 15:33:52 ok let me log into the gta02 Oct 10 15:33:57 thanks :) Oct 10 15:35:56 GNUtoo, I'll be back in about 20-30 min, ping me back and pass pastebin link when I'm back :) Oct 10 15:36:23 ok I've the log Oct 10 15:36:40 pespin, http://www.pastie.org/private/kbjnn4ajzpugdmllvm6nwa Oct 10 15:37:30 ok thanks Oct 10 15:38:40 GNUtoo, Could not get access to org.bluez: GDBus.Error:org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter: No such adapter Oct 10 15:39:04 GNUtoo, bluez doesn't find the device Oct 10 15:39:19 ok Oct 10 15:40:05 GNUtoo, kernel/module problem I suppouse Oct 10 15:40:19 * pespin back in 20 mins Oct 10 15:40:26 ok Oct 10 15:47:37 lindi-, hi do you know what to modprobe to get bluetooth on om-gta02? btusb? Oct 10 15:48:36 seem so Oct 10 15:50:27 pespin is gone....hmmm here was the after modprobe btusb: http://www.pastie.org/private/f2fcjspvwrk0wih0ne8aa Oct 10 16:13:33 pespin, hi Oct 10 16:13:49 pespin is gone....hmmm here was the after modprobe btusb: http://www.pastie.org/private/f2fcjspvwrk0wih0ne8aa Oct 10 16:20:50 GNUtoo, it seems obexd is not working well, but it shouldn't segfault anyway. I'll try looking into it this week. Oct 10 16:21:05 GNUtoo, try launching obexd manually, I think then you can have it working Oct 10 16:21:19 pespin, I guess it's our problem because it works while launching obexd manually Oct 10 16:21:25 it works means not emtooth2 Oct 10 16:21:28 but obexd Oct 10 16:21:34 echo $? returns Oct 10 16:21:36 0 Oct 10 16:21:44 sorry for the line break Oct 10 16:23:11 GNUtoo, well, it's dbus/obexd problem mainly. But I should look about have emtooth2 working with obexd not present Oct 10 16:23:31 as obexd only gives some extra features (such as file transfer) Oct 10 16:23:44 ok Oct 10 16:23:54 I think it's rather shell issue Oct 10 16:24:01 shr-core has a strange shell Oct 10 16:24:06 GNUtoo, it works if you have obexd launched before right? Oct 10 16:24:17 no Oct 10 16:25:26 aha Oct 10 16:25:36 I just made it work with obexd -n under DISPLAY=:0 Oct 10 16:25:43 maybe that's the display Oct 10 16:26:25 GNUtoo, yeah, DISPLAY is not set in ssh term. It should be set imho, we have to change that Oct 10 16:26:47 ERR: Could not create object path for device 00:12:A1:69:41:77: GDBus.Error:org.bluez.Error.Failed: Protocol not supported. Oct 10 16:26:59 protocol not supported? uhm Oct 10 16:27:10 I've never seen that one Oct 10 16:27:20 I suppouse there's some other module missing? Oct 10 16:27:36 possible Oct 10 16:33:59 I think we must solve the not supported thing Oct 10 16:34:34 because I see no kernel module for that Oct 10 16:34:46 I mean bluetooth is charged Oct 10 16:34:50 I'll try manually Oct 10 16:37:17 GNUtoo, can you paste the whole log which gives you the Protocol not supported line? Oct 10 16:37:27 it gives it also with hidd Oct 10 16:37:31 I'm investigating Oct 10 16:37:51 it seem to be kenrel stuff anyway Oct 10 16:37:54 ok Oct 10 16:38:01 thanks for looking into it :) Oct 10 16:38:05 * pespin at class right now :) Oct 10 16:40:07 found it Oct 10 16:40:09 CONFIG_BT=m Oct 10 16:40:09 # CONFIG_BT_L2CAP is not set Oct 10 16:40:09 # CONFIG_BT_SCO is not set Oct 10 16:43:50 GNUtoo, what does =m mind? Oct 10 16:44:02 I thought you can only set y/n ? Oct 10 16:44:06 =m means as module Oct 10 16:44:11 ah ok :) Oct 10 16:44:13 =y means inside the uImage Oct 10 16:44:21 and =n means not compiled in Oct 10 16:44:49 CONFIG_foo is sometimes for #ifdef CONFIG_foo tough Oct 10 16:44:59 but most of the time it's for compiling a .c file Oct 10 16:45:06 that can be inside the uImage or as a module Oct 10 16:45:16 also the core stuff can't be as a module Oct 10 16:45:20 like the booting part Oct 10 16:45:29 for instance the part that launch init Oct 10 16:45:32 etc... Oct 10 16:45:42 so there usually there is only =y or =n Oct 10 16:45:52 for instance the section in embedded Oct 10 16:57:14 yep Oct 10 16:59:48 I'll eat soon Oct 10 17:42:41 GNUtoo, did you try compiling with config option to y? Oct 10 17:42:51 to =m Oct 10 17:42:59 NOTE: package shr-lite-image-2.0-r18: task do_rootfs: Started Oct 10 17:43:01 it's here Oct 10 17:44:55 pespin, now upgrading.... Oct 10 17:45:02 ok Oct 10 17:45:21 I hope it'll work because I need bluetooth...and emtooth is great Oct 10 17:56:27 GNUtoo, which rev do you have in shr-core? Oct 10 17:56:42 afair it's not the last version Oct 10 17:56:52 the last one Oct 10 17:56:55 just bumped it today Oct 10 17:56:57 160 Oct 10 17:56:58 ok, nice :) Oct 10 17:59:16 * pespin going home, bbl Oct 10 18:03:38 too bad because IT WORKS Oct 10 18:41:24 mickeyl, ping Oct 10 18:57:37 mrmoku, ping Oct 10 19:10:08 GNUtoo pong Oct 10 19:10:28 mrmoku, you fixed the shell on shr-core right? Oct 10 19:10:42 emtooth needs DISPLAY=:0 for obexd Oct 10 19:10:55 (I'm fixing bluetooth on om-gta02) Oct 10 19:11:12 GNUtoo: JaMaOff fixed it Oct 10 19:11:20 fixed DISPLAY? Oct 10 19:11:22 though not completely Oct 10 19:11:25 no, the shell Oct 10 19:11:29 ok Oct 10 19:11:36 but there is no DISPLAY? Oct 10 19:11:41 ok Oct 10 19:11:48 works only when logged in via ssh Oct 10 19:11:51 dunno about display Oct 10 19:12:08 I'll push my om-gta02 changes and try to push my nexusone changes after that Oct 10 19:12:19 great Oct 10 19:12:21 should I do huge runtime tests or is it ok to push? Oct 10 19:12:31 also it doesn't cover gta01(cannot test) Oct 10 19:12:31 no huge runtime tests Oct 10 19:12:35 ok Oct 10 19:12:49 then I wait for the compilation and then push Oct 10 19:12:53 good Oct 10 19:12:59 and then install and look Oct 10 19:13:03 huge runtime tests we should do when things stabilized Oct 10 19:13:08 anyway I don't want to reflash Oct 10 19:13:14 so I'll just install Oct 10 19:13:15 at the moment there's too many things to fix Oct 10 19:13:22 ok Oct 10 19:13:28 the top bar!!!! Oct 10 19:13:42 yeah, the top bar Oct 10 19:13:44 icons on start Oct 10 19:14:00 the top bar is my private enemy #1 Oct 10 19:14:11 maybe it's even public enemy Oct 10 19:14:12 the phone stack needs adjustments for efl changes here and there Oct 10 19:14:17 ok Oct 10 19:14:21 such as keyboard Oct 10 19:14:26 overral looks ok apart the bar Oct 10 19:14:35 broken topbar as one of the most annoying ones though, I agree Oct 10 19:14:44 mrmoku, I found a bl-5c at home Oct 10 19:14:50 yeah, I read that Oct 10 19:14:54 ok Oct 10 19:14:54 that's great Oct 10 19:15:03 it can last at least 2 hours Oct 10 19:15:13 no idea if it can last 4 Oct 10 19:15:31 since the battery applet is kind of erratic with that battery I cannot tell Oct 10 19:15:42 (not linear) Oct 10 19:15:51 ok Oct 10 19:18:35 GNUtoo: the most annoying thing I have on my gta02 is the WSoD Oct 10 19:18:45 I don't have that Oct 10 19:18:46 I wonder if it's worth adding a hack to fsodeviced Oct 10 19:18:58 which affected people like me can enable Oct 10 19:19:00 no wsod here..... Oct 10 19:19:03 ok Oct 10 19:19:05 yeah, I know Oct 10 19:19:14 your device is broken??? Oct 10 19:19:21 that would be very bad Oct 10 19:19:25 let's call it affected Oct 10 19:19:30 ok Oct 10 19:19:31 it was from the beginning Oct 10 19:19:40 with different kernels in different ways Oct 10 19:19:41 then why not Oct 10 19:19:53 there was even a kernel some time back which had no WSoD at all Oct 10 19:20:02 but then it came back with an updated kernel Oct 10 19:20:15 I've no wsod currently, and no buzz altough it's not buzzfixed Oct 10 19:20:23 lucky you :-) Oct 10 19:20:42 I've broken the aux button but resoldered it tough Oct 10 19:20:56 yeah, did that twice already too Oct 10 19:21:03 once stuff would work correctly I hesistate to move to the baseband world Oct 10 19:21:17 like osmocombb+nuttx etc... Oct 10 19:21:50 that's out of my personal scope Oct 10 19:22:06 my direction probably will be more integration with telepathy Oct 10 19:22:11 I would need to buy an usrp before it's too late tough Oct 10 19:23:10 hi morphis Oct 10 19:23:30 morphis, did you try last elfe? Oct 10 19:23:39 it got a card-like interface Oct 10 19:23:53 which could work on nexus s Oct 10 19:23:58 if we fix the buttons Oct 10 19:24:05 basically that maps to a button Oct 10 19:24:11 so we must have a working button Oct 10 19:24:29 I didn't see any different in it on GTA02 Oct 10 19:25:25 Yoram, it require compositing Oct 10 19:25:38 and software compositing require 24/32bit framebuffer Oct 10 19:25:48 which is not supported on GTA02.... Oct 10 19:26:08 I looked very rapidely and its framebuffer is in 16bit Oct 10 19:26:16 I don't know a lot about framebuffer formats Oct 10 19:26:23 like rgb888 etc... Oct 10 19:27:41 once again, those with GTA02 are left behind... Oct 10 19:28:00 Yoram, I'm fixing gta02 bluetooth right now.... Oct 10 19:28:26 gta02 is not left behind, it's our best supported device Oct 10 19:28:34 it has: Oct 10 19:28:37 xrandr -o 1 Oct 10 19:28:40 bluetooth Oct 10 19:28:49 and similar things Oct 10 19:28:59 it is even capable of running osmocombb Oct 10 19:29:13 it has working gps(only some,not all new devices have that) Oct 10 19:29:17 etc... Oct 10 19:29:18 really Oct 10 19:29:45 you are saying that because you don't have newer devices, but the state of newer devices are a lot worse Oct 10 19:30:19 yes they can play videos, some have 32bit framebuffer etc...they seem nicer but I'm not sure they really are Oct 10 19:32:22 OK, OK, but still, its' quite old... Oct 10 19:32:54 yes but for instance you take the palm pre, it has decent telephony(not sure) but lacks proper wifi Oct 10 19:33:03 take the n900, great device bad telephony Oct 10 19:33:18 take the htcdream, old wifi + alsa issues Oct 10 19:33:30 see.... Oct 10 19:33:40 take the nexus S....work in progress Oct 10 19:33:45 same for nexus one Oct 10 19:34:10 GTA02 IS a bad phone, and the maximum sound volume is just too low.... Oct 10 19:34:35 for solving most of our problem we said that we could use a device daily so stuff get fixed, I think most of us choose the om-gta02 Oct 10 19:34:41 *problems Oct 10 19:34:50 heyho Oct 10 19:34:54 I use only GTA02 Oct 10 19:34:56 the gta02 is old yes Oct 10 19:35:05 GNUtoo: about elfe: no I didn't tried elfe for a long time now Oct 10 19:35:09 ok Oct 10 19:35:13 my son has N900 Oct 10 19:35:18 ok Oct 10 19:35:25 morphis: did you try my gobject-introsepection recipe? Oct 10 19:35:31 Yoram, does he run shr or something like that on it? Oct 10 19:35:56 Heyho morphis! Oct 10 19:36:09 No, maemo... Oct 10 19:36:43 angelox|laptop: heyho Oct 10 19:36:53 Heinervdm: sorry, didn't have time for it yet Oct 10 19:37:14 I was talking about SHR+FSO on newer devices Oct 10 19:37:37 morphis: ok, just tell me if it works, if not i can try to use qemu, like GNUtoo suggested yesterday, that should work Oct 10 19:37:47 OK, I understand Oct 10 19:38:18 morphis, Heinervdm look at the oe.dev emacs recipe for help on how to use qemu Oct 10 19:38:26 note that it creates a huge directory Oct 10 19:38:38 maybe it should be better in oe-core Oct 10 19:38:42 GNUtoo: i already did that, i doesn't so hard Oct 10 19:38:48 since you may not have to merge stuff Oct 10 19:38:53 and maybe it's in STAGING Oct 10 19:39:04 like in STAGING/crespo Oct 10 19:39:16 *it shouldn't be so hard Oct 10 19:40:10 but i will only try it if the current version doesn't work Oct 10 19:40:50 GNUtoo: hi, thank you for responding to http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1492 do i understand correctly that firmware loading does still not work ? Oct 10 19:41:44 nschle85, I tested and it's like what I said, it works partially Oct 10 19:42:31 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r90a1dd130463 10/meta-openmoko/ (2 files in 2 dirs): meta-openmoko: om-gta02: fix bluetooth modules autoload Oct 10 19:42:32 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r60df9b934798 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-2.6.39/om-gta02/defconfig linux_2.6.39.bb): meta-openmoko: linux-2.6.39: make bluetooth work for om-gta02 Oct 10 19:42:35 basically fsodeviced is responsible of firmware loading Oct 10 19:42:43 so it seems that it starts too late Oct 10 19:42:51 which result in the camera firmwares not beeing loaded Oct 10 19:42:55 while the other firmwares are Oct 10 19:42:57 like wifi Oct 10 19:43:21 GNUtoo: i downloaded a et8ek8-0002.bin from somewhere in github it had a different md5 is it true that there are different firmres with same name are available ? Oct 10 19:43:34 nschle85, I took meego's firmwares Oct 10 19:43:36 from HEAD Oct 10 19:43:39 from normal Oct 10 19:43:40 etc... Oct 10 19:43:43 and none worked Oct 10 19:43:46 but wifi loaded Oct 10 19:43:55 so it should be as I said Oct 10 19:43:59 fsodeviced loaded too late Oct 10 19:44:04 try to rmmod the module Oct 10 19:44:07 and to modprobe it Oct 10 19:44:12 once fsodeviced is loaded Oct 10 19:44:14 it should work Oct 10 19:44:18 but it delay boots Oct 10 19:44:21 that's unacceptable Oct 10 19:44:33 (because battery charging is in userpace) Oct 10 19:45:55 GNUtoo: ok, what is the "normal" way to load firmwares ? like in distributions without fsodeviced ? Oct 10 19:46:07 mdev or udev Oct 10 19:46:16 but that may prevent your device from booting Oct 10 19:46:22 so you'll have to remove devtmpfs Oct 10 19:46:34 mickeyl ruled the udev/mdev approach out Oct 10 19:46:43 he wanted devtmpfs Oct 10 19:46:46 so we migrated to that Oct 10 19:47:01 GNUtoo: ok Oct 10 19:47:26 there are some approach to fix that: Oct 10 19:47:31 *load fsodeviced earlier Oct 10 19:47:36 *load the module later Oct 10 19:47:47 *don't load theses modules at boot Oct 10 19:50:15 GNUtoo: next question, i think i enterd a ticket that pin dialog does not appear but i cannot find it again now a second ticket related to this bug was entered do you find my entry so it can be marked as duplicate ? Oct 10 19:50:23 Heinervdm: I hope I can try tomorrow Oct 10 19:50:31 ok Oct 10 19:50:45 Heinervdm: as I am back to work these days which holds me back from working on foss projects :( Oct 10 19:50:49 nschle85, is it fixed? Oct 10 19:51:17 phone ringing Oct 10 19:51:29 ah it rang only once Oct 10 19:52:06 GNUtoo: I am on a good way getting telephony working on the nexuss Oct 10 19:52:20 GNUtoo: i dont know, I added a "workaround" but someone created a new ticket Oct 10 19:52:33 GNUtoo: I am currently reworking the serial-forward utility to support the nexuss ... Oct 10 19:52:34 nschle85, ah ok Oct 10 19:52:41 morphis, ok nice Oct 10 19:52:53 GNUtoo: modem io is a very bad implementation in the nexus s kernel .. Oct 10 19:52:53 morphis, I'll try to get better suspend-resume on the nexus S Oct 10 19:52:57 ok Oct 10 19:53:00 ok Oct 10 19:53:11 don't expect me to be very often in IRC these days Oct 10 19:53:11 but could you try to fix xorg crash while you're at it? Oct 10 19:53:18 I will Oct 10 19:53:19 I need that to be fixed Oct 10 19:53:20 ok Oct 10 19:53:25 but I am still waiting for my image to be finished Oct 10 19:53:29 can I contact you by other means? Oct 10 19:53:38 like jabber? Oct 10 19:53:45 mail Oct 10 19:53:48 ok Oct 10 19:54:01 everything else is blocked at work Oct 10 19:54:08 ah ok work Oct 10 19:54:15 I tough it was to concentrate on the modem Oct 10 19:55:06 GNUtoo: ok i found the original entry with my "workaround" http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1478 Oct 10 19:55:31 ok Oct 10 19:55:55 when I was at work nothing was blocked but they watched me.... Oct 10 19:56:06 GNUtoo: no, sadly not Oct 10 19:56:20 GNUtoo: in a big bank most things are blocked ... Oct 10 19:56:29 so only when the boss was not there I could do 2 things at once Oct 10 19:56:51 because waiting for a compilation is quite borring Oct 10 19:57:13 ok Oct 10 19:57:44 Heinervdm: did you think about the meeting? want a bed? Oct 10 19:58:01 mrmoku, I should organize for that meeting as soon as possible Oct 10 19:58:09 but I would need a bed if I can come Oct 10 19:58:10 mrmoku: i don't need a bed, i will take the floor Oct 10 19:58:17 Heinervdm: ok :) Oct 10 19:58:51 GNUtoo: yeah, you're already in my beds.txt :-) Oct 10 19:58:56 lol ok Oct 10 19:59:22 btw I don't speak a word of german Oct 10 19:59:32 GNUtoo: Slyon will be with us in the car... and we'll probably pick up JaMa in Nürnberg Oct 10 19:59:37 ok Oct 10 19:59:43 and no... german is no requirement Oct 10 19:59:48 :) Oct 10 19:59:55 I know I was telling that for the transports etc... Oct 10 20:00:09 like beeing in the country Oct 10 20:00:14 I will pick you up at munich main station Oct 10 20:00:18 ok Oct 10 20:00:22 mrmoku: is it a bed on a single room? Oct 10 20:00:26 s/on/in/ Oct 10 20:00:27 morphis meant: mrmoku: is it a bed in a single room? Oct 10 20:00:30 no Oct 10 20:00:30 I'll be very recognizable Oct 10 20:00:34 it's double rooms Oct 10 20:00:48 like to have an openssh/gnu/openoffice/libreoffice or something like that t-shirt Oct 10 20:00:55 ok :) Oct 10 20:01:03 t-shirt might be a bit cold though Oct 10 20:01:11 ah right Oct 10 20:01:19 then I should find my picture on the net Oct 10 20:01:25 better put on a hat with the gta02 attached :-P Oct 10 20:01:34 lol Oct 10 20:02:31 GNUtoo: is the time for the event fixed ? Oct 10 20:02:48 I think so Oct 10 20:03:16 and what is it ? Oct 10 20:03:26 nschle85: 16-18.12. Oct 10 20:03:29 16,17,18 december right? Oct 10 20:03:37 ok Oct 10 20:04:07 hmm so i have a problem Oct 10 20:04:33 sadly this was the only weekend all the core people have time Oct 10 20:04:51 mrmoku: ok Oct 10 20:04:59 maybe I could find time at another date Oct 10 20:05:29 GNUtoo: do you come ? Oct 10 20:05:32 I didn't know that I had no course the friday Oct 10 20:05:33 yes Oct 10 20:05:34 so I am off Oct 10 20:05:34 gn8 Oct 10 20:05:38 good night Oct 10 20:06:02 GNUtoo: no, please change the time Oct 10 20:06:18 GNUtoo: do not change the timne Oct 10 20:06:21 ok Oct 10 20:06:51 I hope they won't bother me at the airport if I've like many devices Oct 10 20:06:59 (if I tell the number it would be too high) Oct 10 20:08:08 GNUtoo: I am not a core developer so its not necessary to come but it would be nice to meet you Oct 10 20:08:12 (I would bring only the phones anyway) Oct 10 20:08:16 ok nice Oct 10 20:08:42 GNUtoo: why do you think it would be a problem ? Oct 10 20:09:15 maybe there is import/export rules on the number of devices? Oct 10 20:09:24 or do the device have to be similar? Oct 10 20:10:21 because I've om-gta02,htcdream,geeksphoneone(without battery),n900,nexusone,nexusS so.... Oct 10 20:10:41 It reminds me that I must order a battery and do the port for the geeksphone one Oct 10 20:14:42 GNUtoo: do you come from EU ? Oct 10 20:14:49 yes Oct 10 20:14:55 right Oct 10 20:15:02 so no issues Oct 10 20:15:12 GNUtoo: yes :-) Oct 10 20:15:31 doing 2 things at the same time doesn't help.... Oct 10 20:16:40 GNUtoo: i was inactive for one week, but i am still investigating howto integrate N900 GPS into gpsd... i am very frustrated Oct 10 20:16:55 ok Oct 10 20:17:04 why are you frustrated? Oct 10 20:17:11 maybe do something that works first Oct 10 20:17:17 and integrate in a second time? Oct 10 20:18:00 GNUtoo: first problem: based on which gpsd ? 2.95 or 3.2 ? Oct 10 20:18:09 maybe take lastest Oct 10 20:18:19 2.95 builds with bitbake Oct 10 20:18:24 ok Oct 10 20:18:29 3.2 does not Oct 10 20:18:31 what's the difference? Oct 10 20:18:34 protocol change? Oct 10 20:18:34 needs scons Oct 10 20:18:38 ah Oct 10 20:18:44 ok Oct 10 20:18:51 why did they choose scons Oct 10 20:19:07 GNUtoo: dont ask me :-) Oct 10 20:19:21 maybe because of esr? Oct 10 20:19:31 esr ? Oct 10 20:20:21 eric S raymonds Oct 10 20:20:33 he wanted to rewrite wesnoth in python or something like that Oct 10 20:22:47 what is wesnoth ? i find only a game with that name Oct 10 20:23:58 yes Oct 10 20:24:00 that's a game Oct 10 20:24:04 battle for wesnoth Oct 10 20:24:15 it even ran on shr on the n900 in shr-unstable Oct 10 20:24:22 but I didn't import it to oe-core yet Oct 10 20:24:24 too much to do Oct 10 20:24:32 even if it's just adding LIC_FILES_CHKSUM Oct 10 20:25:46 GNUtoo: and what is the relation to gpsd and scons ? Oct 10 20:26:22 ? Oct 10 20:26:41 you mean between esr, scons and gpsd Oct 10 20:26:48 esr is strange Oct 10 20:27:02 so maybe the migration to scons is because of him Oct 10 20:27:45 is esr one of gpds developers ? Oct 10 20:27:51 gpsd Oct 10 20:29:20 I think so Oct 10 20:29:38 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpsd Oct 10 20:29:46 GNUtoo: ok, next thing why iam frustrated is: gpsd is pure c code, gisi is written in vala Oct 10 20:30:08 why is it a problem? Oct 10 20:30:16 there are vapis Oct 10 20:30:23 maybe vapis are hard tough Oct 10 20:30:31 GNUtoo: :-) Oct 10 20:30:41 nschle85: are you sure you really want gpsd? Oct 10 20:31:17 indeed since it's with gisi Oct 10 20:31:28 lindi-: yes, i did not found any alternative Oct 10 20:31:29 maybe export the gps trough fsodtldt Oct 10 20:33:02 GNUtoo: having n900 gps integrated in gpsd will support also other distributions not based on FSO Oct 10 20:33:02 nschle85: well there is http://gypsy.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Oct 10 20:33:26 lindi-: gypsy is dead Oct 10 20:33:34 nschle85: are you sure? Oct 10 20:33:37 indeed Oct 10 20:33:41 dead and burried Oct 10 20:34:16 I guess it depends on who you ask Oct 10 20:34:26 git does have recent modifications Oct 10 20:34:39 there is a new api tough Oct 10 20:34:48 not gpsd not gypsy Oct 10 20:34:55 it's for location Oct 10 20:35:02 I must look but I must also commit some stuff Oct 10 20:35:06 will look right after Oct 10 20:35:07 gpsd is a de facto standard, many programs are linked to it Oct 10 20:35:18 GNUtoo: you mean geoclue? Oct 10 20:35:36 yes Oct 10 20:35:46 yes but geoclue won't talk to the actual hardware Oct 10 20:36:04 ok Oct 10 20:36:12 GNUtoo: but the problem i have is to find the right architecture to implement it Oct 10 20:36:18 but fsodtldt could implement geoclue Oct 10 20:36:25 nschle85, write to mickeyl maybe Oct 10 20:36:31 he had some idea on how to solve the problem Oct 10 20:36:43 like fso-userland Oct 10 20:36:47 GNUtoo: i think too or ask PaulFertser: Oct 10 20:58:21 nschle85, does PaulFertser reads smartphone-userland? so I guess send to mickeyl and PaulFertser with CC fso-userland? Oct 10 21:02:14 GNUtoo: no, ill ask PaulFertser: what to do, he already improved gpsd, so he knows a lot about the gpsd architecture, but you are right, i should create somethink working and later it can be integrated. Oct 10 21:02:31 ok Oct 10 21:02:39 but maybe ask first Oct 10 21:02:43 it's easy to ask Oct 10 21:02:50 and hard to correct mistakes later Oct 10 21:02:54 GNUtoo: yes :-) Oct 10 21:03:33 I know pavel prefers the gpsd way... Oct 10 21:04:05 GNUtoo: is it hard to integrate scons builds to bitbake ? Oct 10 21:04:43 I could try Oct 10 21:04:49 but right now I've to commit stuff Oct 10 21:05:14 GNUtoo: ok, i wont disturb Oct 10 21:05:35 you can disturb since GPS is important Oct 10 21:06:28 :-) Oct 10 21:07:03 GNUtoo: I have another question far away from shr Oct 10 21:07:18 ok Oct 10 21:09:03 I wanted to have a device serving XBMC and a special plugin (kartina.tv) so i bought an apple tv2 but i cannot compile software for it. do you know something about delivery status of panda board ? Oct 10 21:09:19 GNUtoo: i think its ALWAYS sold out Oct 10 21:09:34 ah Oct 10 21:09:40 no idea Oct 10 21:09:59 maybe use the tv out of your n900? Oct 10 21:10:34 GNUtoo: no, i need the device for development not for my wife :-) Oct 10 21:10:57 ok Oct 10 21:10:58 lol Oct 10 21:11:12 does a beagleboard xm work fine for that? Oct 10 21:13:45 GNUtoo: no because my home equipment is not capable to merge a dvi and digital audio signal Oct 10 21:14:15 ok Oct 10 21:14:25 I need a device which sends video and audio on same cable (hdmi) Oct 10 21:15:27 ok Oct 10 21:15:28 no idea Oct 10 21:15:45 did you try all boards Oct 10 21:15:46 GNUtoo: so beagle board performance would fit but it has insufficient ports Oct 10 21:15:55 pandaboard,beagleboard,hawkboard,igepv2 etc... Oct 10 21:16:33 GNUtoo: no, but pandaboard seems to be very popular and powerful, but i cannot buy one Oct 10 21:18:28 ok Oct 10 21:18:39 too bad Oct 10 21:19:41 GNUtoo: i think you a familiar with embedded hardware, do you know an alternative ? Oct 10 21:20:22 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r7d12d5c09a53 10/meta-htc/recipes-graphics/xorg-xserver/ (2 files in 2 dirs): meta-htc: add nexusone xorg.conf and bump PRINC Oct 10 21:20:26 for your precise case no Oct 10 21:20:36 no means I don't know but it may exist Oct 10 21:20:48 I know globally the embedded hardware Oct 10 21:21:00 but I don't know if the audio goes over hdmi or something else Oct 10 21:22:01 if it has a hdmi connector, audio MUST go over it (hdmi specification) Oct 10 21:22:22 if it has DVI it may be possible Oct 10 21:24:02 ah? Oct 10 21:24:16 I've a bugbase with hdmi and I'm not sure audio goes trough Oct 10 21:25:22 GNUtoo: ill google it Oct 10 21:26:14 warning it's ultra expensive Oct 10 21:26:26 (I got it for free tough) Oct 10 21:27:05 it's from buglabs Oct 10 21:27:13 and I said a mistake Oct 10 21:27:27 I've a bugbase with a module that has HDMI Oct 10 21:27:34 the hdmi is not on the bugbase Oct 10 21:27:41 but on the module Oct 10 21:29:32 GNUtoo: I can see... the prices are shocking me Oct 10 21:35:17 basically I think that the prices are so high because they may not be mass produced like a cellphone Oct 10 21:35:25 and because plastic costs a lot Oct 10 21:39:16 GNUtoo: yes its made of oil :-) Oct 10 21:40:23 GNUtoo: are there any hardware resellers in france who sell the panda board ? Oct 10 21:40:54 not sure Oct 10 21:41:07 the only resellers I know in france is hackabledevices Oct 10 21:41:14 but I don't know if they sell pandaboards Oct 10 21:41:22 else there are the usual revenders but that's in us Oct 10 21:41:29 that means customs fees Oct 10 21:46:06 fees are not the problems but to pay customs takes a lot of time Oct 10 21:55:49 bye Oct 10 21:57:00 pespin, it would work if you fix the obexd issue Oct 10 21:58:37 because with running obexd manually (with DISPLAY set) and launching emtooth2 after works Oct 10 21:58:52 GNUtoo, yeah, but no idea on why obexd fails :S Oct 10 21:59:05 I'll try fixing the segfault when I have some time though ;) Oct 10 21:59:06 because it lacks DISPLAY env Oct 10 21:59:39 GNUtoo: bye thank you ... Oct 10 21:59:40 * pespin doesn't understand wth obexd needs DISPLAY env var Oct 10 21:59:51 no idea but it complain otherwise Oct 10 22:00:20 GNUtoo, what about adding DISPLAY to /etc/profile in OE? Oct 10 22:01:25 possible Oct 10 22:01:37 was it done like that in shr-unstable? Oct 10 22:02:04 http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2011/staatstrojaner Oct 10 22:02:07 GNUtoo, no idea :P Oct 10 22:03:11 GNUtoo, but afair it was set when I used ssh Oct 10 22:03:51 ok **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 11 02:59:57 2011