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Nov 26 05:36:28 <PaulFertser> antrik: how is C++ OO-centric? The very creator of STL thinks OOP is stupid and flawed.
Nov 26 05:36:59 <PaulFertser> antrik: i do not see how modern C++ is not high-level (if you use it accordingly).
Nov 26 09:00:07 <CIA-38> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r47fa0ea6d546 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/cornucopia.inc: cornucopia: bump SRCREV a bit more
Nov 26 09:00:17 <CIA-38> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r9d8d55d618cf 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/libsamsung-ipc_git.bb: libsamsung-ipc: bump SRCREV a bit
Nov 26 13:46:50 <antrik> PaulFertser: well, do you know Lisp or Haskell?
Nov 26 17:25:27 <PaulFertser> antrik: i know some ELisp, some Scheme, and i've started learning Haskell. Why?
Nov 26 17:32:52 <morphis> heyho
Nov 26 17:34:22 <JaMa|Off> morphis: heyho
Nov 26 17:34:33 <JaMa|Off> morphis: could you please look at mdbus2?
Nov 26 17:34:53 <angelox|laptop> morphis: heyho
Nov 26 17:36:16 <morphis> JaMa|Off: I am already working on it
Nov 26 17:37:18 <morphis> JaMa|Off: it's broken, something I missed within my work to get FSO working with vala-0.14
Nov 26 17:37:29 <morphis> JaMa|Off: I will push a commit so it compiles at least
Nov 26 17:37:46 <JaMa|Off> great, thanks a lot
Nov 26 17:38:10 <JaMa|Off> shr-lite-images are built already, mdbus2 is used only in full 
Nov 26 17:39:01 <morphis> ok
Nov 26 17:39:04 <GNUtoo> JaMa|Off, full builds?
Nov 26 17:39:09 <morphis> mdbus2 will build and work partially
Nov 26 17:39:12 <GNUtoo> I mean usually
Nov 26 17:39:40 <morphis> I need to rewrite the relevant parts to use gdbus instead of dbus-glib
Nov 26 17:42:30 <angelox|laptop> morphis: recently i'm getting this: any idea of what is missing? (http://pastebin.com/QR0Hx0Jx)
Nov 26 17:43:28 <morphis> angelox|laptop: you have an old version of libfsoframework installed?
Nov 26 17:43:49 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r3d9c42ca3cff 10/tools/mdbus2/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am src/main.vala): 
Nov 26 17:43:49 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: mdbus2: convert first parts to use gdbus instead of dbus-glib
Nov 26 17:43:49 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: mdbus2 is still buggy with this first patch as the other parts using dbus-glib needs to be
Nov 26 17:43:49 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: converted too. Don't report any bugs for this version until conversion is finished! This
Nov 26 17:43:50 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: patch is commited only the let mdbus2 compile with vala 0.14 again.
Nov 26 17:43:50 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Nov 26 17:44:09 <morphis> JaMa|Off: try with this last commit and feel free to push cornucopia SRCREV again
Nov 26 17:44:22 <JaMa|Off> ok, thanks, will do
Nov 26 17:44:28 <JaMa|Off> GNUtoo: it will in few mins
Nov 26 17:44:41 <GNUtoo> ok
Nov 26 17:44:53 <GNUtoo> and how far are we from the olf feeds
Nov 26 17:44:54 <GNUtoo> ?
Nov 26 17:45:01 <GNUtoo> *old oe-classic feeds
Nov 26 17:45:06 <GNUtoo> what packages are still missing?
Nov 26 17:45:33 <angelox|laptop> morphis: that is cornucopia?
Nov 26 17:45:35 <CIA-38> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r53bad15b34fb 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/cornucopia.inc: cornucopia: bump SRCREV a bit more
Nov 26 17:45:46 <JaMa|Off> see task-shr-feed they are commented out
Nov 26 17:46:16 <morphis> angelox|laptop: libfsoframework is part of cornucopia
Nov 26 17:46:22 <morphis> ad cornucopia is FSO 2.0
Nov 26 17:46:22 <JaMa|Off> GNUtoo: I didn't want to import all recipes blindly in case nobody is using them anymore
Nov 26 17:46:52 <angelox|laptop> morphis: hmm then i think so,i'm not using git,i'm using an snapshot from OE (old compilation)
Nov 26 17:46:53 <GNUtoo> JaMa|Off, I was asked more or less that question on a oe ml
Nov 26 17:46:57 <GNUtoo> so I want to respond
Nov 26 17:47:07 <GNUtoo> mplayer is now imported
Nov 26 17:47:15 <GNUtoo> but still a lot of recipes are still lacking
Nov 26 17:47:17 <GNUtoo> like xchat
Nov 26 17:47:27 <GNUtoo> or the claws-mails
Nov 26 17:47:34 <GNUtoo> and games are lacking
Nov 26 17:47:56 <morphis> angelox|laptop: you should use latest version from git
Nov 26 17:48:21 <angelox|laptop> morphis: ok,thnx,i'll rebuild then
Nov 26 17:48:26 <morphis> ok
Nov 26 17:56:40 <morphis> angelox|laptop: only a short note: when we're using a string for the config element type we don't need the "ConfigType." prefix, just "BOOLEAN" instead of "ConfigType.BOOLEAN" or better the type in lower case like "boolean"
Nov 26 18:07:27 <angelox|laptop> morphis: ok; thnx,i'll do the change
Nov 26 18:07:31 <morphis> JaMa|Off: do you know anything about a not working dbus auto launching atm?
Nov 26 18:07:40 <morphis> angelox|laptop: ok
Nov 26 18:08:04 <angelox|laptop> morphis: btw,getting this when started compiling cornucopia again: cornucopia/libfsobasics/fsobasics/utilities.vala:150:2: error: too many arguments to function 'backtrace_symbols'
Nov 26 18:08:23 <morphis> angelox|laptop: do you have latest git?
Nov 26 18:08:30 <morphis> and which vala version do you have?
Nov 26 18:08:32 <angelox|laptop> yep,just cloned
Nov 26 18:08:41 <morphis> valac --version
Nov 26 18:08:46 <angelox|laptop> Vala 0.14.0
Nov 26 18:08:47 <morphis> it should be 0.14.0
Nov 26 18:08:48 <morphis> hm
Nov 26 18:08:50 <morphis> ah
Nov 26 18:08:59 <morphis> you need a special patched version of vala
Nov 26 18:09:24 <angelox|laptop> where can i get it?
Nov 26 18:09:25 <morphis> but you can work around this by cloning http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=vala.git;a=summary
Nov 26 18:09:50 <morphis> and then copy all *.vapi files in the vapi directory into /usr/share/vala-0.14/vapi (when you are on a debian-like system)
Nov 26 18:10:00 <JaMa|Off> morphis: no idea sorry
Nov 26 18:10:13 <JaMa|Off> morphis: full image finished, great job, thanks!
Nov 26 18:10:17 <angelox|laptop> morphis:  Ok,thnx
Nov 26 18:10:21 <morphis> JaMa|Off: no problem
Nov 26 18:10:59 <morphis> JaMa|Off: root@crespo:~# ls -alh /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
Nov 26 18:10:59 <morphis> -rwsr-xr--    1 root     sshd      180.7K Nov 26 17:33 /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
Nov 26 18:11:15 <morphis> JaMa|Off: is it ok that the dbus-daemon-launch-helper as the group sshd?
Nov 26 18:12:36 <morphis> JaMa|Off: ok, when I set chmod +x for it it works
Nov 26 18:12:47 <morphis> so the group for the executable is wrong
Nov 26 18:13:17 <JaMa|Off> morphis: can you check your .ipk file?
Nov 26 18:13:44 <JaMa|Off> opkg had issue that it didn't respect username groupname in .ipk file
Nov 26 18:13:48 <JaMa|Off> but that should be fixed
Nov 26 18:13:52 <JaMa|Off> already
Nov 26 18:14:08 <morphis> dbus-1 - 1.4.16-r0 - D-Bus message bus
Nov 26 18:14:42 <JaMa|Off> SHR root@gjama ~ $ ll /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
Nov 26 18:14:42 <JaMa|Off> -rwsr-xr--    1 root     messageb    142852 Nov 21 12:29 /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
Nov 26 18:14:46 <morphis> hm
Nov 26 18:14:51 <JaMa|Off> same version
Nov 26 18:14:55 <morphis> I already did a bbrenew dbus here
Nov 26 18:15:25 <JaMa|Off> it was already fixed, weird, can you check your group file?
Nov 26 18:15:31 <morphis> opkg - 1:0.1.8+svnr625-r4 - opkg version 0.1.8+svnr625-r4
Nov 26 18:15:49 <morphis> for what?
Nov 26 18:15:59 <JaMa|Off> Version: 1:0.1.8+svnr625-r4
Nov 26 18:16:06 <JaMa|Off> also same
Nov 26 18:16:11 <morphis> yes
Nov 26 18:16:19 <JaMa|Off> morphis: something werid with messagebus/sshd groups?
Nov 26 18:16:25 <JaMa|Off> like same gid or something like that
Nov 26 18:16:48 <JaMa|Off> because that's also handled now by useradd.bbclass and it could have some issues
Nov 26 18:16:49 <morphis> messagebus is 998, sshd is 997
Nov 26 18:17:02 <morphis> so it looks fine
Nov 26 18:17:53 <morphis> I did a opkg remove dbus-1 && opkg install dbus-1
Nov 26 18:17:57 <morphis> and now it looks correct
Nov 26 18:18:03 <morphis> root@crespo:~# ls -alh /usr/libexec/
Nov 26 18:18:03 <morphis> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root        1.0K Nov 26 18:01 .
Nov 26 18:18:03 <morphis> drwxr-xr-x    9 root     root        1.0K Nov 26 17:33 ..
Nov 26 18:18:03 <morphis> -rwsr-xr--    1 root     messageb  180.7K Nov 26 17:33 dbus-daemon-launch-helper
Nov 26 18:18:11 <morphis> weird
Nov 26 18:18:26 <morphis> so somethings seems to be wrong with image creation
Nov 26 18:18:43 <JaMa|Off> this was wrong in reflashed image?
Nov 26 18:18:52 <JaMa|Off> can you check testlab files
Nov 26 18:19:00 <morphis> if I have some ..
Nov 26 18:19:30 <JaMa|Off> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-core/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-20111121-om-gta02-testlab/files-in-image.txt looks right
Nov 26 18:20:23 <morphis> morphis@nirvana ...r-aurora-image-20111126-crespo-testlab % cat files-in-image.txt| grep dbus-daemon-launch
Nov 26 18:20:23 <morphis> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root messagebus 185056 Nov 26 18:33 dbus-daemon-launch-helpe
Nov 26 18:20:28 <morphis> looks also fine ...
Nov 26 18:20:48 <morphis> I will reflash the image
Nov 26 18:21:06 <JaMa|Off> how did you reflash?
Nov 26 18:21:17 <JaMa|Off> untared from other partition?
Nov 26 18:21:32 <morphis> it's on the Nexus S and there I only need to copy the ext2 to the internal flash in a specific folder
Nov 26 18:21:40 <morphis> maybe something went wrong here
Nov 26 18:21:51 <morphis> let me check
Nov 26 18:22:12 <angelox|laptop> morphis: is this common?: 
Nov 26 18:22:13 <angelox|laptop> [angelo@mlinux bin]$ ./valac-0.14 --version
Nov 26 18:22:13 <angelox|laptop> Vala 0.7.10.1686-6c49
Nov 26 18:22:13 <angelox|laptop> [angelo@mlinux bin]$
Nov 26 18:22:22 <JaMa|Off> tar/cp -a will preserve probably UID/GIDs rather than user/group names
Nov 26 18:22:45 <morphis> angelox|laptop: ?
Nov 26 18:22:55 <morphis> angelox|laptop: no
Nov 26 18:23:16 <morphis> angelox|laptop: which linux you are using?
Nov 26 18:23:32 <JaMa|Off> so it's again a bit wrong in concept as UID/GIDs can change with every build from scratch :/
Nov 26 18:23:36 <angelox|laptop> morphis: Arch linux
Nov 26 18:23:41 <morphis> angelox|laptop: ok
Nov 26 18:23:47 <morphis> can you remove and reinstall vala?
Nov 26 18:24:06 <angelox|laptop> already removed
Nov 26 18:24:17 <angelox|laptop> ah,reinstall from git
Nov 26 18:24:42 <morphis> angelox|laptop: and why ./valac-0.14?
Nov 26 18:24:48 <morphis> should it not be in /usr/bin?
Nov 26 18:25:20 <angelox|laptop> i do install it in /opt/fso/
Nov 26 18:25:32 <angelox|laptop> i'll install in default
Nov 26 18:25:38 <angelox|laptop> that's /usr/bin
Nov 26 18:29:00 <morphis> angelox|laptop: you compiled vala on your own from git?
Nov 26 18:29:30 <morphis> JaMa|Off: my image file seems to be wrong
Nov 26 18:29:41 <angelox|laptop> morphis: what does your own means?
Nov 26 18:29:42 <morphis> let me clean up my tmp folder and then try again
Nov 26 18:29:58 <morphis> angelox|laptop: it means that you compiled vala on your own
Nov 26 18:30:39 <angelox|laptop> so yes
Nov 26 18:30:45 * angelox|laptop guess
Nov 26 18:31:11 <morphis> angelox|laptop: use the package your distro provides
Nov 26 18:32:18 <angelox|laptop> then i get that error
Nov 26 18:33:48 <morphis> ah ok
Nov 26 18:33:59 <morphis> the error is ok
Nov 26 18:34:06 <morphis> install the package your distro provides
Nov 26 18:34:11 <morphis> which should be 0.14
Nov 26 18:34:43 <angelox|laptop> but i can't compile with the error :S
Nov 26 18:35:01 <morphis> yes
Nov 26 18:35:15 <morphis> do this: use your distro vala version
Nov 26 18:35:20 <morphis> then clone the fso vala
Nov 26 18:35:44 <morphis> checkout the 0.14.0-fso branch
Nov 26 18:35:59 <morphis> copy all files from the vapi directory to /usr/share/vala-0.14/vapi
Nov 26 18:36:05 <morphis> then it should work
Nov 26 18:36:18 <angelox|laptop> ok
Nov 26 18:36:24 * angelox|laptop does the first step :)
Nov 26 18:38:19 <angelox|laptop> morphis: worked, thanks :D
Nov 26 18:38:25 <morphis> great
Nov 26 18:45:30 <morphis> angelox|laptop: btw. how far is the keyboard?
Nov 26 18:46:58 <angelox|laptop> morphis: fb part needs to be started but x11 is almost complete( i don't know why,but in pratice doesn't work )
Nov 26 18:47:07 <morphis> hm ok
Nov 26 18:47:10 <morphis> I will take a look
Nov 26 18:48:20 <angelox|laptop> that'd be very good
Nov 26 19:39:21 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r4167deddef8c 10/aurora-daemon/src/system/launcher/AppIcon.qml: 
Nov 26 19:39:21 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: launcher: remove test method from app icon component
Nov 26 19:39:21 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Nov 26 19:39:22 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r63b98612e046 10/aurora-daemon/src/ (6 files in 6 dirs): 
Nov 26 19:39:22 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: provide initialPage property for Window component and use it everywhere
Nov 26 19:39:22 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Nov 26 19:48:31 <angelox|laptop> morphis: why can't i see the toolbar buttons images and other widget images? "in general i get  QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/qtg_graf_*****"
Nov 26 19:54:58 <nschle85> PaulFertser: hello, do you have time to talk about n900 gps ?
Nov 26 19:55:03 <PaulFertser> nschle85: yep :)
Nov 26 19:55:13 <PaulFertser> nschle85: let me paste some lines.
Nov 26 19:55:24 <PaulFertser> 02:17 < PaulFertser> nschle85: 2.x is absolutely not an option.
Nov 26 19:55:25 <PaulFertser> 02:18 < PaulFertser> nschle85: hm, can you make ISI calls concurrently from different apps?
Nov 26 19:55:27 <PaulFertser> 02:19 < PaulFertser> Is scons OE class broken?
Nov 26 19:55:37 <PaulFertser> And then HE tunnel stopped working for a while.
Nov 26 19:57:29 <nschle85> PaulFertser: (02:18) that i did not check 
Nov 26 19:58:19 <nschle85> PaulFertser: i expect that it can be done
Nov 26 19:59:12 <nschle85> PaulFertser: if not i have to think about another strategy for integrtation
Nov 26 19:59:54 <nschle85> (02:19) as i know there is no scons recipe available
Nov 26 20:00:05 <PaulFertser> nschle85: there's even a bbclass for it.
Nov 26 20:00:41 <nschle85> PaulFertser: ok, if it works gpsd3 could be an option
Nov 26 20:00:57 <PaulFertser> nschle85: if it doesn't, fixing it would be the thing to do imho ;)
Nov 26 20:01:14 <nschle85> PaulFertser: yes indeed
Nov 26 20:02:04 <nschle85> PaulFertser: ok so my arguments not to use gpsd:
Nov 26 20:02:40 <nschle85> 1. gpsd is implemented to read from serial or usb devices
Nov 26 20:02:57 <nschle85> 2. no configuration is allowed 
Nov 26 20:03:25 <nschle85> 3. no malloc allowed, i do not know what libgisi does
Nov 26 20:03:27 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r0e7c5805017c 10/aurora-daemon/src/components/Window.qml: 
Nov 26 20:03:27 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: don't set initial page directly; forward it to the page stack instead
Nov 26 20:03:27 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Nov 26 20:03:28 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * r54dff898f750 10/aurora-daemon/src/components/Window.qml: 
Nov 26 20:03:28 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: components: forward global shared toolbar to page stack
Nov 26 20:03:28 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Nov 26 20:04:07 <nschle85> 4. isi modem does not deliver nmea strings, extra parsing has to be done
Nov 26 20:04:47 <PaulFertser> nschle85: gpsd supports SiRF and UBX so 4. is bogus here.
Nov 26 20:05:25 <PaulFertser> nschle85: what kind of configuration are you missing? gpsd supports changing some parameters.
Nov 26 20:05:26 <nschle85> 5. libgisi is written in vala, so gpsd will be a mix of vala and c code and and additional dependencies
Nov 26 20:06:25 <nschle85> i would like to tell that the n900 isi modem has to be used and the name of the interface phonet0
Nov 26 20:07:39 <GNUtoo> hey #gpsd has a channel
Nov 26 20:07:47 <PaulFertser> nschle85: you can tell gpsd to use a particular serial port any time, so this kind of configuration is already possible. Let me read the sources again.
Nov 26 20:11:37 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * re24b554551f8 10/aurora-daemon/src/components/external/PageStack.js: 
Nov 26 20:11:37 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: page stack: fix bug that when tools are empty tool bar content is not erased
Nov 26 20:11:37 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Nov 26 20:11:38 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07aurora * rfc6c89754988 10/aurora-daemon/src/components/Window.qml: 
Nov 26 20:11:38 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: aurora-daemon: components: offer applications to change default toolbar content
Nov 26 20:11:38 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Nov 26 22:20:09 <GNUtoo> lindi-, hi
Nov 26 22:34:21 <lindi-> GNUtoo: hi
Nov 26 22:35:28 <GNUtoo> lindi-, I've still not workarrounded my microsd issue it seems
Nov 26 22:35:34 <GNUtoo> I've errors -16 in dmesg
Nov 26 22:35:49 <GNUtoo> I've tried to do what the wiki said
Nov 26 22:35:50 <lindi-> GNUtoo: what kernel? what cmdline?
Nov 26 22:36:01 <lindi-> GNUtoo: what bootloader?
Nov 26 22:36:34 <GNUtoo> Linux om-gta02 2.6.39.4 #1 Sat Nov 19 16:22:13 CET 2011 armv4tl GNU/Linux
Nov 26 22:37:13 <lindi-> GNUtoo: got a link to sources?
Nov 26 22:37:24 <GNUtoo> let me find it
Nov 26 22:37:25 <lindi-> GNUtoo: so that I'd easily see if that has Per's patches included or not
Nov 26 22:37:48 <lindi-> GNUtoo: I'm currently using a kernel without them
Nov 26 22:37:56 <GNUtoo> glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=1000000 glamo_mci.sd_drive=3
Nov 26 22:37:57 <lindi-> afaik this is what shr uses too
Nov 26 22:38:08 <GNUtoo> I'm using the stock SHR kernel
Nov 26 22:38:24 <lindi-> I think SHR has different kernels though?
Nov 26 22:38:48 <GNUtoo> let me look
Nov 26 22:40:46 <GNUtoo> https://gitorious.org/shr/linux/commits/shr-2.6.39-nodrm
Nov 26 22:41:00 <lindi-> GNUtoo: I unfortunately don't have any deep knowledge here. I only know those two parameters, rootdelay and switching between SD cards
Nov 26 22:41:09 <GNUtoo> ok
Nov 26 22:41:21 <GNUtoo> but I don't even know what the parameters mean
Nov 26 22:42:07 <GNUtoo> http://pastie.org/2925931
Nov 26 22:42:21 <GNUtoo> I can reproduce theses -16 easily
Nov 26 22:42:35 <GNUtoo> there is a media player called enjoy
Nov 26 22:42:55 <GNUtoo> it requires to create a database of the songs
Nov 26 22:42:57 <GNUtoo> with test-lms
Nov 26 22:43:07 <GNUtoo> creating that database creates theses errors
Nov 26 22:43:18 <GNUtoo> the filesystem was just checked on my laptop before
Nov 26 22:43:25 <GNUtoo> <GNUtoo> but I don't even know what the parameters mean
Nov 26 22:43:43 <GNUtoo> I meant I don't know the specs enough so I don't link that to something real
Nov 26 22:44:10 <GNUtoo> altough the specs were leaked on the openmoko ml so they could be available easily
Nov 26 22:44:51 <GNUtoo> after theses errors the card doesn't respond anymore
Nov 26 22:45:08 <GNUtoo> cd /media/card ; ls froze
Nov 26 22:45:45 <GNUtoo> theses errors are kind of a blocker for me
Nov 26 23:02:00 <GNUtoo> lindi-, at least the card is found and with intone I can use it somehow, until it blocks
Nov 26 23:02:55 <lindi-> GNUtoo: oh
Nov 26 23:03:42 <GNUtoo> changing microsd card is not an option tough
Nov 26 23:03:49 <GNUtoo> the card costed something like 100E
Nov 26 23:05:00 <lindi-> GNUtoo: well you can buy a cheaper card
Nov 26 23:05:28 <GNUtoo> I didn't find chearper 32G cards
Nov 26 23:05:29 <lindi-> it's quite risky to buy 100 eur for a card if you can't know if it works or not :/
Nov 26 23:05:37 <lindi-> s/buy/pay/
Nov 26 23:05:37 <apt> lindi- meant: it's quite risky to pay 100 eur for a card if you can't know if it works or not :/
Nov 26 23:05:48 <GNUtoo> I wasn't using the freerunner when I bought the 32G card
Nov 26 23:06:10 <lindi-> right
Nov 26 23:08:46 <GNUtoo> I'll sleep now
Nov 26 23:08:51 <GNUtoo> sorry for the disturbing
Nov 26 23:09:14 <lindi-> no problem, too bad I can't really help much
Nov 26 23:09:19 <GNUtoo> ok
Nov 26 23:09:32 <GNUtoo> the problem is that I've more than 16G of jamendo music
Nov 26 23:10:40 <GNUtoo> if fixing the microsd fails there is still the gta04 tough
Nov 26 23:11:01 <GNUtoo> the problem would be the wifi card tough
Nov 26 23:11:05 <GNUtoo> I would have to free it
Nov 26 23:11:30 <GNUtoo> bye
Nov 26 23:13:41 <antrik> PaulFertser: well, in comparision to these truely high-level languages, it should be clear that C++ isn't really one :-)
Nov 26 23:21:20 <nschle85> hello, phonet-utils does not be build http://pastebin.com/q6i7xD5W  can anybody help please ?
Nov 26 23:25:08 <angelox|laptop> antrik: if  C++ isn't high level,pure C is low level language, so assembly is what? :)
Nov 26 23:26:21 <antrik> assembly is assembly ;-)
Nov 26 23:26:59 <antrik> it's obviously a unique category on it's own... so no need to classify it further
Nov 26 23:27:36 <antrik> (yeah, by "traditional" definitions C was a high-level language... but I don't think anyone is using such definitions today)
Nov 26 23:27:47 <angelox|laptop> assembly is the man :)
Nov 27 00:01:31 <CIA-38> freesmartphone.org: 03angelo 07aurora * r354fa6b26e98 10/aurora-daemon/src/bin/ (4 files): aurora-daemon: do not destroy an keyboard instance when asked for hiding
Nov 27 01:11:27 <angelox|laptop> good night guys
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