**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 11 02:59:57 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 11 05:00:37 2011 Dec 11 06:48:01 * mrmoku is awake :) Dec 11 09:02:34 PaulFertser: libgisi still builds fine with your patches :-) Dec 11 09:02:43 now let's see if fsogsmd still builds against it Dec 11 09:03:53 * JaMa|Zzz is not really aware :) Dec 11 09:06:34 JaMa|Wrk: about the patches? Dec 11 09:21:11 mrmoku: not my patches, i've just typed two git commands. Dec 11 09:25:00 s/aware/awake/ Dec 11 09:25:01 :) Dec 11 09:32:04 PaulFertser: sure :) Dec 11 09:48:18 007 closed Dec 11 09:48:41 only jffs2 images are missing Dec 11 10:05:42 PaulFertser: fsogsmd builds too (after disabling the samsung modem ;) Dec 11 10:05:57 now an image and runtime test Dec 11 10:06:15 morphis: am I doing something wrong or does fsogsmd with samsung modem not build currently? Dec 11 10:10:42 anyone know if gta04 has a (semi-)read-only secondary bootloader like gta02? Dec 11 10:22:06 pabs3: i think omap3 has an embedded bootloader which can be activated with a button and then you can supply it with the bootable code over UART or on MMC card. Dec 11 10:31:37 cool Dec 11 10:32:22 * pabs3 just bricked an OpenWRT based system and was reminded how excellent having a secondary bootloader is Dec 11 11:02:23 PaulFertser: looks good... it did register to the network at least Dec 11 11:09:35 hmmm rfkill is broken on n900 Dec 11 11:09:42 which breaks wifi Dec 11 11:09:51 (and prevent me from trying bluetooth) Dec 11 11:09:57 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * r2eb265da0b6b 10/gisi/ (modem.c modem.h): gisi: Add API for setting modem flags Dec 11 11:09:58 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * r65b98dfb3e04 10/gisi/ (common.h netlink.c netlink.h): Dec 11 11:09:58 freesmartphone.org: gisi: Refactor netlink Dec 11 11:09:58 freesmartphone.org: Don't use typedefs for enum types, and move PhoNet device enum over to Dec 11 11:09:58 freesmartphone.org: common.h. Dec 11 11:09:58 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * r46ec05ecae81 10/gisi/modem.c: gisi: Add checks for NULL Dec 11 11:09:58 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * rfbf46e4e5afb 10/gisi/common.h: gisi: Add new PhoNet device ID for STE Dec 11 11:09:59 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * r944476721b11 10/gisi/ (modem.c modem.h): gisi: Add new API for setting modem remote device Dec 11 11:09:59 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * r268afdf370a2 10/gisi/modem.c: gisi: Refactor modem to use remote device Dec 11 11:10:00 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * r677044d11722 10/gisi/modem.c: gisi: Minor style fixes Dec 11 11:10:01 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * rb2a24d898cdc 10/gisi/ (common.h modem.c): (log message trimmed) Dec 11 11:10:01 freesmartphone.org: gisi: Refactor indication subscriptions Dec 11 11:10:05 freesmartphone.org: Handle different message types for IND subscriptions based on the Dec 11 11:10:05 freesmartphone.org: presence of the GISI_MODEM_FLAG_USE_LEGACY_SUBSCRIBE flag. This Dec 11 11:10:05 freesmartphone.org: enables building modem plugins for modems that only support one or the Dec 11 11:10:05 freesmartphone.org: other available IND types. Dec 11 11:10:06 freesmartphone.org: Based on patches from: Dec 11 11:10:06 freesmartphone.org: 03antti.paila 07libgisi * r8a7a7b4ddf2d 10/gisi/ (iter.c iter.h): gisi: Consumer functions for ISI message iterator Dec 11 11:10:07 freesmartphone.org: 03aki.niemi 07libgisi * r64579364c72f 10/gisi/iter.h: Dec 11 11:10:07 freesmartphone.org: gisi: Make cursor a 16bit unsigned Dec 11 11:15:16 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r5cf4e7f98266 10/meta-openmoko/conf/machine/om-gta02.conf: om-gta02: fix IMAGE_CMD_sum.jffs2 Dec 11 11:16:29 TAsn: hey Dec 11 11:16:35 TAsn: you invited me to a chatroom? Dec 11 11:25:39 mrmoku, do you have an n900 off hand, if so can you give me your kernel defconfig? Dec 11 11:26:43 I did that: Dec 11 11:26:45 +CONFIG_BT_HIDP=m Dec 11 11:26:51 -# CONFIG_HID_SUPPORT is not set Dec 11 11:26:51 +CONFIG_HID=m Dec 11 11:26:51 +# CONFIG_USB_HID is not set Dec 11 11:26:55 that's all Dec 11 11:27:01 but it's not complete defconfig Dec 11 11:27:06 it's one from savedefconfig Dec 11 11:40:29 GNUtoo: moment Dec 11 11:41:13 GNUtoo: the one in OE? Dec 11 11:47:03 mrmoku, GNUtoo: we should probably merge more staging dirs to public, do you agree we can move to 003? Dec 11 11:47:20 at least the efl in 003 is better than what we had in 001 Dec 11 11:47:53 and 008 will have kernel fixes from GNUtoo so we should skip 004-007 and move to 008 later Dec 11 11:58:36 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r9e6fb502520a 10/OE/bin/shr_core_sync_staging_to_public_feed.sh: staging scripts: add info with date of merging to public feed Dec 11 12:01:47 GNUtoo: do we need similar patch for palmpre? Dec 11 12:30:36 <[Rui]> who coded the right mouse button emulator gadget? Dec 11 12:30:58 tasn iirc Dec 11 12:31:05 <[Rui]> I want to add an action to it so it can be mapped on an edge or win+left button Dec 11 12:31:26 <[Rui]> ok Dec 11 12:31:35 <[Rui]> JaMa|Wrk, thanks Dec 11 12:35:01 any hint how to say that number with leading 0 is still decimal in bash test? if [[ 002 -ge 008 ]]; then echo "yes"; fi Dec 11 12:35:04 bash: [[: 008: value too great for base (error token is "008") Dec 11 12:35:35 our staging scripts doesn't handle it very well, I can add leading 1 to this test but maybe more elegant solution? Dec 11 12:37:45 <[Rui]> hms Dec 11 12:39:06 <[Rui]> not very elegant but... http://blog.famzah.net/2010/08/07/beware-of-leading-zeros-in-bash-numeric-variables/ Dec 11 12:39:29 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * rd430ac505a9f 10/OE/bin/shr_core_sync_staging_to_public_feed.sh: staging scripts: prefix STAGING_NUMBERS with 1 to force test to compare them as decimal numbers (even with leading zeros) Dec 11 12:40:02 <[Rui]> or possibly http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_strip_leading_zeroes_for_math_in_a_shell_script.html Dec 11 12:40:37 <[Rui]> TAsn, ping? Dec 11 12:40:43 there is only one test where it matters so I've added leading 1.. Dec 11 12:40:46 <[Rui]> TAsn, are you surfing? :) Dec 11 12:40:48 [Rui]: thanks Dec 11 12:41:21 <[Rui]> JaMa|Wrk, could it ever happen something like 1002 -ge 1001 ? Dec 11 12:43:13 first one is from script param, so yes Dec 11 12:43:40 but this is only sanity check before starting rsync so not so critical Dec 11 12:43:56 002 and 003 merged to public feed Dec 11 12:50:14 <[Rui]> cool Dec 11 13:28:46 JaMa|Wrk, no idea, maybe we need similar patch for all machines, must check Dec 11 13:28:52 JaMa|Wrk, but I've no palm-pre Dec 11 13:29:00 ah ok Dec 11 13:29:36 I was looking at palmpre source and it's 2.6.24 so I don't know if it's affected but -mno-unalignment-access is not there for sure Dec 11 13:32:02 sigh.. 007 again broke dbus owner :/ http://paste.pocoo.org/show/519277/ Dec 11 13:38:50 mrmoku, the one on target from shr-core Dec 11 13:39:06 zcat /proc/config.gz Dec 11 13:42:10 or the one from the built dir Dec 11 13:42:14 I rmed work Dec 11 13:42:20 so I cannot look anymore Dec 11 13:42:27 like in git/.config Dec 11 14:17:53 ohhh Dec 11 14:18:00 killing dbus make rfkill work Dec 11 14:19:01 mrmoku, never mind.... Dec 11 14:19:13 I do not need the defconfig anymore Dec 11 14:23:50 http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2011-December/002507.html Dec 11 14:25:19 with openmoko it should be doable Dec 11 14:25:32 maybe I should forget regulatory stuff and go dive into it Dec 11 14:26:36 <[Rui]> oh darn, I caused e to crash ;) Dec 11 14:27:04 <[Rui]> guess I have a bug somewhere, but at least I now have assocaited the right mouse button emulation to ctrl+left click Dec 11 14:31:59 DocScrutinizer, personally I think that if they can implement osmocombb over nuttx on compal phones they can do it for the freerunner too Dec 11 14:32:02 no? Dec 11 14:32:45 sure Dec 11 14:32:57 I'd at least think so Dec 11 14:33:27 altough nuttx would need some adaptations Dec 11 14:33:37 1) the port was abandonned Dec 11 14:33:44 but the code is still there Dec 11 14:33:53 all the handler stuff for SI and whatnot that Harald mentions would need to wake up the AP, in fact all this can get handled on calypso, as it is now Dec 11 14:33:55 2) it was made for compal stuff with keyboard etc.... Dec 11 14:34:31 indeed Dec 11 14:34:45 AIUI the calypso chipset is pretty compatible, just GTA02 has no kbd or display on calypso Dec 11 14:35:12 DocScrutinizer, basically I did that, I took a job this summer to get money to buy an USRP do do exactly this, but at the end I learned that you cannot get GSM test licenses in italy Dec 11 14:35:24 I mean only big carrier can in practice Dec 11 14:35:43 so "use a tty instead a hw kbd and display" and you're done with GTA02 adaption of nuttx BB and application stack Dec 11 14:35:50 yes Dec 11 14:36:12 so I really wonder, if I should bypass regulations.... Dec 11 14:36:34 and activate that damn transmit flag in the Makefile Dec 11 14:37:06 use an official carrier's BTS, unless you were to implement your own BTS Dec 11 14:37:30 I've the money to buy an USRP, but I won't be able to get the license to operate it Dec 11 14:37:41 and it's not cheap at all Dec 11 14:37:50 because of course I need the gps clock Dec 11 14:37:54 else it cannot work Dec 11 14:38:56 what are you going to do with that thing? Dec 11 14:39:07 I wanted to go the legal way Dec 11 14:39:19 I don't exactly understand what you want to run Dec 11 14:39:27 that is to say run openBTS to test osmocombb on my own network Dec 11 14:39:38 osmocombb is about mobile terminals Dec 11 14:39:47 I know but it's not certified Dec 11 14:40:24 so it may not be a good idea to run it on the carrier network Dec 11 14:41:01 well when you got a local "BTS" (aka CMU200, USRP) you always can attach directly to MT via attenuator and cable, using the antenna test connectors of both devices Dec 11 14:42:54 GNUtoo: I might test openbts here if I have time Dec 11 14:43:02 ok Dec 11 14:43:38 but I think it's best left to the people who know a lot about it, I don't think I could contribute much without spending a lot of time to learn it Dec 11 15:17:10 dos1: alexandros is right.. we should add kernels/qi/u-boot to fancy downloads :) Dec 11 15:17:54 JaMa|Wrk: gimme links and i'll do it ;) Dec 11 15:18:33 (regarding qi and u-boots, as i've seen they're not always in images folder) Dec 11 15:19:28 dos1: here you can see u-boot and uImage links http://build.shr-project.org/#fshr-core%2Fimages%2Fnokia900%2F Dec 11 15:19:46 dos1: qi variants http://build.shr-project.org/#f%2Fshr-core%2Fimages%2Fom-gta02%2F Dec 11 15:20:16 JaMa|Wrk: so always shr-core? Dec 11 15:20:40 i mean, should displayed link point to shr-core regardless of choise done before regarding image? Dec 11 15:21:15 no, but shr-core usually have all kinds of images, but staging dirs have only if ie kernel was changed Dec 11 15:21:22 dos1: do you think you can somehow make users not forget to untar images with --numeric-owner Dec 11 15:21:42 PaulFertser: wizard can display some note or smth Dec 11 15:22:07 dos1: what about the note on the website? Dec 11 15:22:22 PaulFertser: in file listing? or where? Dec 11 15:22:33 and also note that busybox's tar doesn't support that Dec 11 15:22:45 dos1: probably in file listing is appropriate. Whereever visible enough for the folks who download the tar files. Dec 11 15:25:01 ok, added to TODO Dec 11 15:25:24 i think i'll do it in few days Dec 11 15:33:56 dos1: thanks :) Dec 11 15:54:19 JaMa|Wrk: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-core/info.id contains "002" Dec 11 15:54:25 JaMa|Wrk: shouldn't it be "003" now? Dec 11 15:56:47 dos1: yes.. ../shr-core-staging/002/info.id was probably newer or something so rsync kept info.id from 003 :/ Dec 11 15:57:25 morphis, hi, if you rebuild the palm pre kernel does it still boot, if not apply the same patch that I did for crespo and n900 Dec 11 15:58:37 JaMa|Wrk: no problem, it doesn't matter now - if it'll work correctly in future then it's good enough for me Dec 11 15:59:33 dos1: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/519317/ fixed, but not very well :/ this will break info.id from 004 Dec 11 15:59:41 so I'll just remove it from shr-core Dec 11 16:01:08 VQuickSilver, you need the following: Dec 11 16:01:16 * a machine config Dec 11 16:01:20 * a kenrel Dec 11 16:01:31 * and an arch file for armv6-novfp Dec 11 16:01:43 your SOC is armv6-novfp right? Dec 11 16:01:46 GNUtoo, I have the kernel Dec 11 16:01:50 GNUtoo, yes Dec 11 16:02:03 GNUtoo: why do you always say kenrel? :) is it your favourite typo or is there some better reason? Dec 11 16:02:16 JaMa|Wrk, it's a typo Dec 11 16:02:42 Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp java Dec 11 16:02:49 ok Dec 11 16:02:51 Hardware : QCT MSM7x25 SURF Dec 11 16:02:54 let me look where the file is Dec 11 16:03:04 Processor : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 2 (v6l) Dec 11 16:03:44 GNUtoo, for the kernel part I have to clone vanilla linux sources and then make a diff? Dec 11 16:03:54 for the armv6 thing you the armv6 file is here: Dec 11 16:04:12 /home/gnutoo/port4/embedded/oe-core/repos/openembedded-core/meta/conf/machine/include/arm/arch-armv6.inc Dec 11 16:04:22 you should add a -novfp variant inside Dec 11 16:04:31 then create a cpu tune file in: Dec 11 16:05:04 s#/home/gnutoo/port4/embedded/oe-core/repos/openembedded-core/meta/conf/machine/include/arm/arch-armv6.inc#openembedded-core/meta/conf/machine/include/arm/arch-armv6.inc# Dec 11 16:06:12 JaMa|Wrk: but it will be there after next sync? Dec 11 16:06:21 VQuickSilver, no Dec 11 16:06:30 GNUtoo, uhm I can't see those folders, are they on any particular branches? Dec 11 16:06:48 VQuickSilver, you can make a recipe for the git place your kenrel lives in Dec 11 16:07:02 dos1: should be Dec 11 16:07:04 VQuickSilver, clone openembedded-core + meta-openembedded + meta-smartphone Dec 11 16:07:05 ok Dec 11 16:07:13 dos1: but do you need it for public shr-core too? Dec 11 16:07:56 JaMa|Wrk: now i don't, but in future, when image numbers may be quite big, displaying all number from latest to 001 won't be a good idea imo ;) Dec 11 16:08:27 dos1: because there will be more images each one from different staging so you cannot say that public has ie 004 images Dec 11 16:08:45 dos1: ah so only to show not yet merged feeds, right? Dec 11 16:08:51 JaMa|Wrk: yup Dec 11 16:08:54 GNUtoo, ok Dec 11 16:09:32 dos1: then it will be there with 004 and work later (I do not remember which feeds had info.id from for cycle and which from script :)) Dec 11 16:09:56 ok Dec 11 16:15:30 is that right? Dec 11 16:15:48 ops wrong tab sorry. Dec 11 16:16:18 VQuickSilver, maybe you'd better use the shr Makefile Dec 11 16:16:32 JaMa|Wrk knows how to use it, I don't (I've a manual setup) Dec 11 16:17:46 http://wiki.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR shows how to use it Dec 11 16:23:38 brb Dec 11 16:28:39 GNUtoo, I'm going to do the chroot thing cause I lack python-2.6 Dec 11 16:28:45 ok Dec 11 16:31:55 GNUtoo, the wireless chipset on the phone it's Atheros AR6002, I found info on it and put a link on the replicant wiki. Dec 11 16:32:41 ok Dec 11 16:32:54 anybody knows how to enable the webos-like window switcher in elfe? Dec 11 16:32:55 since you're porting SHR why not creating a page here: Dec 11 16:32:59 morphis, yes Dec 11 16:33:17 morphis, just bind a key to the compositor switching Dec 11 16:33:30 you also need compositing activated Dec 11 16:33:36 I have Dec 11 16:33:37 which requires 24 or 32bit framebuffer Dec 11 16:33:38 ok Dec 11 16:33:42 crespo? Dec 11 16:33:44 which key? Dec 11 16:33:46 yes Dec 11 16:33:54 then there is a problem with key bindings Dec 11 16:34:00 try evtest Dec 11 16:34:02 it fails to work Dec 11 16:34:09 I don't remember how to fix it Dec 11 16:34:22 VQuickSilver, http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Hardware Dec 11 16:34:39 morphis, also VQuickSilver is doing the port to the geeksphone one Dec 11 16:34:50 ah great Dec 11 16:35:13 I guess he'd like to know how much work it is to make his modem work I guess Dec 11 16:36:12 Hi morphis Dec 11 16:36:22 VQuickSilver: hey Dec 11 16:36:49 GNUtoo: hm, key binding does not work Dec 11 16:36:56 yes as I said Dec 11 16:36:59 yes Dec 11 16:37:03 the problem is not elfe Dec 11 16:37:10 but rather xorg.conf or something like that Dec 11 16:37:14 or the kenrel driver Dec 11 16:37:50 hm Dec 11 16:38:23 is there something like evtest for x11 events? Dec 11 16:38:28 yes Dec 11 16:38:34 xev Dec 11 16:38:57 will try that Dec 11 16:39:08 btw. we have a problem with waking up on incoming calls Dec 11 16:39:16 yes that's obvious Dec 11 16:39:29 did we add the wakelock thing for that? Dec 11 16:39:45 libsamsung-ipc does some wakelock stuff Dec 11 16:40:20 yes but did we add the kenrel part for wakelocks wakeup reason Dec 11 16:40:28 I don't think so Dec 11 16:40:33 I never did Dec 11 16:40:56 let me look Dec 11 16:41:37 we did Dec 11 16:41:40 I did Dec 11 16:41:44 73e7c4a9d4c0a49791617171b267249ad5f34a1a Dec 11 16:41:59 ok Dec 11 16:42:03 and 0ccb0d31bdf40fa1bc25f9275c25637e51602110 Dec 11 16:42:26 but....wait a second Dec 11 16:42:31 we didn't activate it in the defconfig Dec 11 16:42:36 CONFIG_WAKELOCK_SUSPEND_RESUME Dec 11 16:43:17 GNUtoo: ok thanks, will try that Dec 11 16:43:24 ok Dec 11 17:30:47 GNUtoo: hm the patch is compiled in but the device doesn't wake up Dec 11 17:31:01 hmmm Dec 11 17:31:26 we must debug it Dec 11 17:31:47 yes Dec 11 17:34:23 hi PaulFertser :-D Dec 11 17:35:03 GNUtoo: should we aquire the wakelock for the modem all time we're running fsogsmd? Dec 11 17:35:15 hmmm that will prevent suspend Dec 11 17:35:18 and that's not good Dec 11 17:35:20 DocScrutinizer: hi :) Dec 11 17:35:26 PaulFertser: all fine? Dec 11 17:35:34 DocScrutinizer: yep :) what about you? Dec 11 17:35:55 kinda OK :-) Tomorrow = monday sucks a bit Dec 11 17:37:39 GNUtoo, ok, now seems like I have all the required sources inside my chroot Dec 11 17:38:17 ok Dec 11 17:38:56 anybody knows if http://www.wirelessmodemapi.com/ is permanently defect/binned or just temporarily messed up? Dec 11 17:39:01 mickeyl: ^^? Dec 11 17:39:43 DocScrutinizer: you do not have to worry until it comes though, so enjoy the rest of your weekend. :) Dec 11 17:40:03 yep :-D Dec 11 17:44:52 [Rui], during the day I'm @ work, so only available at #edevelop, sorry. :P Dec 11 17:46:12 morphis, I can't call myself Dec 11 17:46:17 will try from home Dec 11 17:46:31 ok Dec 11 17:47:06 ahh ok Dec 11 17:47:11 it's my french sim card Dec 11 17:47:16 the credit is expired Dec 11 17:49:49 ah indeed Dec 11 17:57:19 else if ( reason == "SMD_RPCCALL" ) Dec 11 17:58:46 <[Rui]> TAsn, no problem, I forget you're israeli :) we don't work on sundays hehehe Dec 11 17:58:50 morphis: maybe it doesnt return that Dec 11 17:58:56 but something else? Dec 11 17:59:14 <[Rui]> come to think of it, neither on saturdays... ;) Dec 11 17:59:24 GNUtoo-netbook: I think thats the cause Dec 11 17:59:30 and I am already investigating here Dec 11 17:59:30 [Rui], maybe you didn't forget, just felt where my heart lies (I wanna move to europe) Dec 11 17:59:54 GNUtoo-netbook, something like TUNE_FEATURES_tune-armv6novfp ?= "armv6 novfp thumb" Dec 11 17:59:55 should work? Dec 11 18:00:48 <[Rui]> TAsn, no, I do, I don't normally think that others may work on different days :() Dec 11 18:01:14 VQuickSilver: rather armv6-novfp Dec 11 18:01:20 <[Rui]> TAsn, I can understand several reasons why you would prefer to move to europe :) Dec 11 18:01:36 I think there is more to do than that single line Dec 11 18:01:51 GNUtoo-netbook, I should put novfp or simple armv6 and thumb? Dec 11 18:02:12 no idea I dont remember will look after Dec 11 18:02:19 [Rui], there are too many. And I have an european accent, so... :) Dec 11 18:02:27 grr Dec 11 18:02:30 s/accent/passport/ Dec 11 18:02:30 lol Dec 11 18:04:14 morphis: I think we should add some debugging Dec 11 18:04:20 like for printing the resume reason Dec 11 18:04:28 in the android lowlevel plugin Dec 11 18:05:56 <[Rui]> TAsn, will you be at fosdem 2012? Dec 11 18:06:22 morphis, and please publish your devshell Dec 11 18:06:23 hopefully Dec 11 18:06:34 as I told last time the licenses are compatible Dec 11 18:06:44 MIT and GPL are compatible Dec 11 18:06:47 [Rui], I should really buy tickets and get an hotel already. ;P Dec 11 18:06:49 <[Rui]> TAsn, cool. I got my plane and hotel reserved since two months ago Dec 11 18:06:57 the whole just get promoted to GPL Dec 11 18:07:04 [Rui], that's my problem I guess, I like doing things on the last minute. :) Dec 11 18:07:11 hate planning ahead Dec 11 18:07:15 (or at least so much ahead) Dec 11 18:07:44 <[Rui]> it really compensates, price-wise Dec 11 18:10:45 hm... what do you mean? Dec 11 18:11:27 <[Rui]> TAsn, well, my plane ticket cost under half of what it used cost me when I bought later Dec 11 18:11:45 ah Dec 11 18:11:48 yeah, I'm an idiot. :) Dec 11 18:11:49 I know. Dec 11 18:12:00 will order this weekend Dec 11 18:12:00 :) Dec 11 18:12:28 though it's sooo damn expensive, but whatever... :) Maybe I'll continue to paris afterwards, dunno yet. Dec 11 18:12:39 (since I'm already there) Dec 11 18:12:41 [Rui], TAsn I already bought tickets, hope to see you there :) Dec 11 18:12:43 <[Rui]> TAsn, and better get some place close to the city center Dec 11 18:12:55 pespin, you too. :P Dec 11 18:13:04 <[Rui]> weekend night life in Brussels is a must Dec 11 18:13:45 [Rui], I plan on staying in your hotel/the efl frenchie's hotel/whatever Dec 11 18:13:52 I wanna be close to people Dec 11 18:14:15 <[Rui]> TAsn, well, as it was also cheaper, I got into a 4* hotel Dec 11 18:14:36 <[Rui]> it claimed to have net, it's in about 5 min to grand place, so cool! Dec 11 18:14:59 + if ( strcmp( lock->name, "SMD_RPCCALL" ) != 0 ) Dec 11 18:15:03 in the kernel too Dec 11 18:15:33 [Rui], :)) Dec 11 18:16:02 hm... ~$500 roundtrip ;\ Dec 11 18:16:08 <[Rui]> I was a bit tired of ibis ste catherine for the same price Dec 11 18:16:12 morphis, cat /proc/wakelocks to get the names Dec 11 18:16:17 <[Rui]> TAsn, cringe Dec 11 18:16:29 <[Rui]> I better not mention the 120 eur I payed... Dec 11 18:16:38 [Rui], no, you better not ;P Dec 11 18:17:24 [Rui], I think maybe I'll take the opportunity to party a bit in europe Dec 11 18:17:30 trying to see where I can go that's close Dec 11 18:17:47 paris is ~440 Dec 11 18:18:22 (close comparing to israel that is) Dec 11 18:19:14 <[Rui]> yeah Dec 11 18:20:01 amsterdam is also not that expensive Dec 11 18:20:11 (depends on the flight, but some are <$400 Dec 11 18:20:20 TAsn: hey Dec 11 18:20:41 Ainulindale, sup? it's been a long time. :) Dec 11 18:20:53 TAsn: well you tried to chat with me this morning apparently Dec 11 18:20:53 Ainulindale, will you also be attending? Dec 11 18:20:59 I suppose it was a mistake Dec 11 18:21:00 ah lol Dec 11 18:21:03 yeah Dec 11 18:21:03 Attending to? Dec 11 18:21:08 fosdem Dec 11 18:21:13 No I won't Dec 11 18:21:17 Ainulindale, chat this morning: was too damn wasted (sick) Dec 11 18:21:23 pressed on your name as a mistake Dec 11 18:21:29 but I did try chatting with you a month or two ago Dec 11 18:21:42 I'm usually there but often lagging :-) Dec 11 18:21:57 TAsn: If you're in Paris give me a call I'll gladly offer you a beer Dec 11 18:22:03 a month is more than a normal lag ;P Dec 11 18:22:04 I have a spare room as well if you need it Dec 11 18:22:12 I'm not in the center of paris but it's free Dec 11 18:22:52 Ainulindale, wow, thanks a lot, I will surely consider it! Dec 11 18:22:58 No problem Dec 11 18:23:03 But I expect isreali delicacies Dec 11 18:23:04 grr, *will take it into consideration Dec 11 18:23:09 Else I'll spank you Dec 11 18:23:12 Ainulindale, I can offer Hummus Dec 11 18:23:16 \o/ Dec 11 18:23:22 I could eat that by the pound Dec 11 18:23:35 I wonder if I can get you fresh Arab Hummus though (best) Dec 11 18:23:43 because I don't think it can easily survive the trip Dec 11 18:23:45 Well you'll see when you'll be there Dec 11 18:23:49 Do you still have my phone number? Dec 11 18:24:01 not sure I do, sec. Dec 11 18:24:02 It's on my CV and/or linkedin profile if you don't Dec 11 18:24:18 I don't Dec 11 18:24:19 sec Dec 11 18:24:49 Queried as well and registered in the logs Dec 11 18:25:22 So you'd be there in february then? Dec 11 18:25:41 hopefully Dec 11 18:25:43 still not sure Dec 11 18:26:05 Well do not hesitate to contact me then Dec 11 18:26:17 I can even pick you up at the airport if it helps you Dec 11 18:26:22 (I have a car) Dec 11 18:26:33 Ainulindale, don't want to trouble you too much, it's fine. :)) Dec 11 18:26:40 Ainulindale, I'm not even sure I'll be coming to Paris Dec 11 18:26:50 Well if it was annoying I wouldn't suggest it Dec 11 18:26:52 Ainulindale, honest question: should I come to Paris? Dec 11 18:27:00 Well it depends on what you enjoy Dec 11 18:27:18 Ainulindale, many people go to great lengths to annoy themselves Dec 11 18:27:20 I can show you where to drink the best coffee in Paris and some places I like :-) Dec 11 18:27:29 But it depends on what you like Dec 11 18:28:03 I don't drink coffee Dec 11 18:28:07 but I enjoy cool places, I guess. Dec 11 18:28:08 :) Dec 11 18:28:08 Then you're gay Dec 11 18:28:16 either gay, or super awesome Dec 11 18:28:17 Coffee is life \o/ Dec 11 18:28:31 I recognise good old Ainu now :) Dec 11 18:28:36 Well, you have tons of resources online on Paris Dec 11 18:28:38 PaulFertser, haha Dec 11 18:28:42 It's obviously a great city Dec 11 18:28:52 But it always depends on what you like Dec 11 18:28:59 PaulFertser: hey dude :-) kaka dila? Dec 11 18:29:04 s/kaka/kak/ Dec 11 18:29:05 Ainulindale meant: PaulFertser: hey dude :-) kak dila? Dec 11 18:29:20 Ainulindale, I'm not really into tourist stuff, and it's been a while since I've been in Paris, but I guess I have some museums to catch with Dec 11 18:29:26 Ainulindale, I guess I'm mostly into people Dec 11 18:29:35 GNUtoo, I've added armv6-novfp and armv6t-novfp for thumb support and a meta/conf/machine/include/tune-arm1136ej-s.inc file Dec 11 18:29:36 i.e meeting up with people Dec 11 18:29:45 drinking decent(+) beer Dec 11 18:29:46 TAsn: well I can nuke your ass out to the boardgame of your choice Dec 11 18:29:55 Ainulindale, Talisman Dec 11 18:29:57 TAsn: As to people, there's a lot in paris :-) Dec 11 18:30:01 TAsn: don't know about this one Dec 11 18:30:32 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talisman_%28board_game%29 Dec 11 18:30:36 Anyways think about it and tell me it'd be with pleasure Dec 11 18:30:41 pfft, and to think you called me gay. :P Dec 11 18:30:50 Games workshop? Dec 11 18:30:58 I play to games for adults Dec 11 18:31:00 Not teenagers Dec 11 18:31:02 Ainulindale, unrelated to this current trip: you can be 100% certain I'll come to Paris sometime soon. Dec 11 18:31:03 :-> Dec 11 18:31:13 Ainulindale, I don't play boardgames, but that's a game I played a lot Dec 11 18:31:18 that, risk, and monopoly Dec 11 18:31:29 I'm more into strategy games with no luck Dec 11 18:31:36 (Antike, Caylus, Imperial...) Dec 11 18:31:43 Ainulindale, don't know those. Dec 11 18:31:50 Too bad :-) Dec 11 18:31:55 Ah I actually played another game that was called Stratego here Dec 11 18:31:57 Anyways I have to go and cook for the girlfriend Dec 11 18:31:59 not sure about the actual name Dec 11 18:32:06 Ainulindale: hey hey :) I'm fine and mostly happy, thanks. I see you're doing fine too, that's nice to hear :) Dec 11 18:32:07 Ainulindale, I'm actually in france later this month, but I'll be far from Paris. Dec 11 18:32:10 TAsn: A (too) simple game Dec 11 18:32:23 PaulFertser: yep except I joined the enemy now Dec 11 18:32:29 Changed jobs again Dec 11 18:32:30 Ainulindale, I'm trying hard to remember games from my ancient past Dec 11 18:32:34 as I don't game anymore. Dec 11 18:32:38 TAsn: do not miss the Pompidu museum. Dec 11 18:32:51 Ainulindale, thanks a lot for the offer, I hope to make use of it soon. :) Dec 11 18:32:57 PaulFertser, thanks for the tip! Dec 11 18:32:59 For the Pompidou museum it depends on the exposition Dec 11 18:33:07 Last time I went it was for Kandinsky Dec 11 18:33:13 It was great Dec 11 18:33:24 Ainulindale: so whom are you working for nowadays? Dec 11 18:33:25 THere's the primitive art museum as well if you're into that Dec 11 18:33:32 (Musée du Quai Branly) Dec 11 18:33:34 PaulFertser: Oracle Dec 11 18:33:55 PaulFertser: Security consulting as always Dec 11 18:33:56 Ainulindale: are they really as bad as we perceive them? Dec 11 18:34:01 Hmmm Dec 11 18:34:04 PaulFertser, lol Dec 11 18:34:04 I don't think so Dec 11 18:34:21 It's really interesting and technical Dec 11 18:34:31 And the attitude boils down to protecting the company Dec 11 18:34:35 Which isn't stupid Dec 11 18:34:55 Then it depends on the means used to do that Dec 11 18:35:13 But in any case, I'm doing more technical stuff than what I did at Logica Dec 11 18:35:25 And it's enjoyable :-) Dec 11 18:35:32 Ainulindale: what are you going to cook atm? Dec 11 18:35:46 Beef with mushrooms and challots Dec 11 18:35:56 Ainulindale: are you still involved in any free software projects? Dec 11 18:36:04 A special part of beef which is quite tender and called "steak de poire" Dec 11 18:36:14 PaulFertser: Not actively Dec 11 18:36:23 PaulFertser: But I still whine here from time to time Dec 11 18:36:43 I lost motivation two years ago and I'd need something to regain it Dec 11 18:37:04 Ainulindale: but what about the software you daily use yourself? Isn't it motivating enough? Dec 11 18:37:27 PaulFertser: Well I do my modifications on portage, but strictly for personal use Dec 11 18:38:09 As to other stuff... I have no specific ideas as to what could be of interest in what I do these days :-) Dec 11 18:38:13 Gentoo's crossdev made me loose several hours today because it doesn't produce proper avr toolchain currently :/ Dec 11 18:38:23 THat's because you probably suck Dec 11 18:38:30 I never had problems with crossdeev :-) Dec 11 18:39:07 PaulFertser: ah recently I worked a bit with GWT for the website of my association Dec 11 18:39:10 but that's about it Dec 11 18:39:10 Ainulindale: no, that's because multilib is now disabled by the portage, and crossdev doesn't care to reenable that despite gcc-avr really needing it and being useless without it. Dec 11 18:39:30 I'm more into enjoying time reading and talking with my girlfriend :-) Dec 11 18:39:52 Plus I spent a lot of time rebuilding my flat Dec 11 18:39:59 It's almost done now Dec 11 18:40:04 Ainulindale: btw, do you by any chance know why and how the network interfaces get hotplugged on boot? E.g. my wlan0 doesn't get auto-started now since some upgrade. Dec 11 18:40:20 PaulFertser: hotplugged or configured? Dec 11 18:40:27 Ainulindale: hotplugged. Dec 11 18:40:36 PaulFertser: well udev rules probably Dec 11 18:40:47 Ainulindale: i configure them through /etc/conf.d/ of course. Dec 11 18:40:59 Ainulindale: well, you still using Gentoo is a nice sign. Dec 11 18:40:59 PaulFertser: well isn't it detected? Dec 11 18:41:14 PaulFertser: Why is that? Dec 11 18:41:36 Even my professional laptop runs on Gentoo Dec 11 18:41:40 Ainulindale: for me it means you haven't "grown" too "old". Dec 11 18:41:44 There's no proprietary software at ome Dec 11 18:41:45 +h Dec 11 18:42:01 Except for bits of my phone (Nexus S on Android) Dec 11 18:42:28 PaulFertser: well I always said that the first thing I'd learn to my children would be to compile their own kernel Dec 11 18:42:38 And to learn how to learn as well as how to look for something Dec 11 18:42:46 Two weapons of mass ownage of morons :-) Dec 11 18:43:26 Why own a moron, what's the benefit? ;) Dec 11 18:43:44 ownage as in "I owned you!" Dec 11 18:43:56 All in all : how to best a moron :-) Dec 11 18:44:40 Winning a game against a moron isn't rewarding either ;) Dec 11 18:46:52 Heh Dec 11 18:47:12 And in any way, IIRC I'm younger than you so no, I didn't grow too old :-) Dec 11 18:48:17 [Rui], please pm me the hotel you are going to in fosdem. :) Dec 11 18:49:01 <[Rui]> TAsn, ok Dec 11 18:49:25 thanks. :)) Dec 11 18:49:57 Ainulindale: you're younger than me? No way, i was born in Sep 1985. Dec 11 18:50:05 <[Rui]> TAsn, I need to launch my laptop Dec 11 18:50:12 <[Rui]> tis tablet has become my personal laptop Dec 11 18:50:38 <[Rui]> although much less powerful, its lighter and has a real GNU/Linux :) Dec 11 18:51:55 PaulFertser: ah damn I'm two years older Dec 11 18:52:01 PaulFertser: I thought you were older :-) Dec 11 18:52:55 * PaulFertser grins Dec 11 18:53:09 [Rui], :)) Dec 11 18:53:17 [Rui], I like my thinkpad too much to replace it Dec 11 18:54:33 PaulFertser: maybe I thought so because you're almost as an intellectual nazi as I am Dec 11 18:54:37 :-> Dec 11 18:56:27 Ainulindale: but i'm not, i like different people, and i do not think IQ or ability to use logic is the most important quality. I value kindness more than IQ. Dec 11 18:56:44 PaulFertser: I was joking ;-) Dec 11 18:57:22 I decided it's important to highlight my true position anyway ;) Dec 11 18:58:22 Well mine is as simple, I'm almost like you with one change: I can't stand stupidity/laziness Dec 11 18:58:55 hah, father of SHR in for a visit :-D Dec 11 19:11:04 | ERROR: Package version for package fsogsmd-module-modem-option-gtm601 went backwards which would break package feeds from (1:0.5.0+gitr6+85048bb02d0450b476370948a7cf76ee236c759b-r6.6 to 1:0.5.0+gitr1+85048bb02d0450b476370948a7cf76ee236c759b-r6.6) Dec 11 19:11:08 | ERROR: Function 'emit_pkghistory' failed Dec 11 19:11:11 heh Dec 11 19:15:31 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libgisi * r2917e6c468c1 10/data/libgisi.vapi: Dec 11 19:15:31 freesmartphone.org: add ModemFlag enum and set/get_flags to the vapi Dec 11 19:15:31 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Dec 11 19:15:58 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07cornucopia * r4a57d089aebe 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_nokia_isi/plugin.vala: Dec 11 19:15:58 freesmartphone.org: fsogsmd: modem_nokia_isi: set USE_LEGACY_SUBSCRIBE flag Dec 11 19:15:58 freesmartphone.org: Looks like without it indications do not work properly with Dec 11 19:15:58 freesmartphone.org: update libgisi. Dec 11 19:15:58 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Dec 11 19:19:17 <[Rui]> mrmoku, if you wished to toggle left mouse button with right mouse button with some binding, now you can (E-MODULES-EXTRA/rmb) Dec 11 19:19:53 <[Rui]> mrmoku, it doesn't work exactly like to button in the shr gadget, it completely toggles. but needs some fixing before it's fully useful. I need to be able to give it a modifiable parameter Dec 11 19:20:16 ok Dec 11 19:20:51 I can live with the gadget... though getting rid of it would gain some space for the connman one :) Dec 11 19:21:09 btw. I dunno if a permanent toggle makes sense Dec 11 19:22:21 <[Rui]> mrmoku, I know, but for some reason using the binding with an e_mod_action wasn't working well with the gadget's logic Dec 11 19:22:29 <[Rui]> mrmoku, it's a to be fixed, for sure. Dec 11 19:22:33 ok :) Dec 11 19:22:57 <[Rui]> mrmoku, right now it's as dedicated to my kind of device as shr's is to openmoko Dec 11 19:23:19 tablet? Dec 11 19:31:20 <[Rui]> mrmoku, yes, a WeTab Dec 11 19:31:33 ok Dec 11 19:31:34 <[Rui]> mrmoku, it's a Pegatron Lucid rebranded. Dec 11 19:31:43 whatever that is :P Dec 11 19:32:58 <[Rui]> mrmoku, mine is a 250 eur dual core atom n450 with 1gb ram Dec 11 19:35:28 nice... probably a bit faster than the gta02 ;) Dec 11 19:36:13 PaulFertser: one very small fix was needed for the newer gisi... thx again for preparing the patches with two git commands :-) Dec 11 19:36:16 <[Rui]> mrmoku, a lot, but no gsm :) Dec 11 19:36:32 <[Rui]> mrmoku, another model has an umts chip, but I didn't want to sped 350 instead Dec 11 19:36:37 mrmoku: have you figured out what that flag means and why it's needed? Dec 11 19:36:38 <[Rui]> and it would require binary modules for that Dec 11 19:36:54 PaulFertser: yup Dec 11 19:37:07 different indications with bigger data Dec 11 19:37:20 <[Rui]> mrmoku, it's real 10.1'' screen, plus margin, so it's big and heavier than an ipad, but it's nice. Dec 11 19:37:24 mrmoku: btw, do i understand it right that gsm on n900 works correctly and the only thing needed for it to be useable is "audio" routing? And messages via sms work etc? Dec 11 19:37:29 <[Rui]> mrmoku, it's the same as pespin's Dec 11 19:37:38 <[Rui]> though his is not called wetab Dec 11 19:37:54 PaulFertser: gsm works apart the audio routing Dec 11 19:37:57 not sms though Dec 11 19:38:01 that is still lacking Dec 11 19:38:16 but call indications work and gprs works Dec 11 19:38:28 and sms won't be hard to implement Dec 11 19:38:40 audio is the problem Dec 11 19:38:50 I really hope we get around to hack on it next weekend Dec 11 19:38:56 mrmoku: hm, so 3G works nicely in parallel to the voice telephony, without any gotchas? Dec 11 19:39:49 awesome GSM carrier TV add (excerpt): "... we don't think, we google ..." Dec 11 19:39:50 PaulFertser: without any gotchas I don't know as I obviously did not use it for telephony yet Dec 11 19:40:26 DocScrutinizer: muhaha, they do not think indeed Dec 11 19:41:03 PaulFertser: but the parallel is a hardware thing, no? Dec 11 19:41:22 mrmoku: well, with traditional AT commands you need the muxing. Dec 11 19:41:30 No idea how it works with ISI. Dec 11 19:42:06 PaulFertser: let me try... I have it connected now and I'm running a ping Dec 11 19:42:09 will call my mailbox..ö Dec 11 19:42:21 there's no muxing in ISI, or rather genuine muxing Dec 11 19:42:46 PaulFertser: yup, works fine Dec 11 19:42:52 (apart from not hearing anything :) Dec 11 19:43:13 I fail to see the hard part in audio Dec 11 19:43:36 apart from the friggin weird idea to route all audio data thru AP Dec 11 19:44:02 do we have an alternative on n900? Dec 11 19:44:08 no Dec 11 19:44:23 it's a friggin weird design decision by Nokia Dec 11 19:44:48 ok Dec 11 19:47:19 :: libpcap: requires libnl Dec 11 19:47:19 :: networkmanager: requires libnl Dec 11 19:47:19 :: ntrack: requires libnl Dec 11 19:47:19 :: wpa_supplicant: requires libnl Dec 11 19:47:21 hmm Dec 11 19:49:21 mickeyl: is there some libnl2 functionality fso really needs? or just API difference? Dec 11 19:51:46 API differences, but huge ones. libnl1 has a strange API Dec 11 19:51:48 very strange Dec 11 19:52:07 ok Dec 11 19:52:16 because I would like to build fso stuff on my laptop Dec 11 19:52:21 *nod* Dec 11 19:52:22 and archlinux is using libnl1 Dec 11 19:52:46 IIRC installing it in parallel does not work cleanly Dec 11 19:53:35 mickeyl: do you know by heart which fso parts make use of it? Dec 11 19:53:57 * PaulFertser has both libnl1 and libnl3 on Gentoo Dec 11 19:54:14 PaulFertser: in parallel without conflicts? Dec 11 19:54:19 mrmoku: yep Dec 11 19:54:23 hmm... nice Dec 11 19:54:47 mrmoku: libnl is used to communicate with the kernel for configuring/quering wireless and wired network interfaces (including routing etc). Dec 11 19:54:49 PaulFertser: does gentoo patch libnl to get that? Dec 11 19:55:06 yeah Dec 11 19:57:20 mrmoku: it doesn't look like patching is required. Dec 11 19:58:03 mrmoku: (audio "routing") technically it shouldn't be a big thing anyway. You just sample from one audiocard and pipe it to another audiocard (and vice versa for return channel). It happens that the one audiocard is our ISI interface and the other audiocard is the normal default audiocard used for ringtones, music playback, everything Dec 11 19:58:50 worst thing that might happen is you might have to do format/rate conversion, but there's ALSA plug plugin for that Dec 11 19:59:08 DocScrutinizer: yeah, before that we have to finish our ACI works though Dec 11 19:59:25 right now we don't even have working scenarios ;) Dec 11 19:59:31 hmm, technically it's not really related Dec 11 19:59:46 and instead of fiddling around with scenarios I would like to get ACI working Dec 11 20:00:00 aaah I see, the "scenarios". Yeah that's a bit tricky maybe Dec 11 20:00:29 mrmoku: not offhand, sorry, but i guess some kobject/uevent parts Dec 11 20:00:30 what do we call "scenario" in ACI? pathes? Dec 11 20:00:36 some kernel update added (and mixed around ofcourse) the controls Dec 11 20:00:43 DocScrutinizer: yeah paths Dec 11 20:01:00 mickeyl: nvm, I will try to get it to work in parallel Dec 11 20:01:07 so we need to set up proper forth and back channel path for ACI Dec 11 20:01:09 if gentoo can do that... archlinux can too ;) Dec 11 20:01:57 DocScrutinizer: the paths are one thing (counting on you there :) ... first we have to finish the implementation of it Dec 11 20:02:03 that's why I need libnl2 Dec 11 20:02:08 I want to do it on my laptop Dec 11 20:02:09 aah Dec 11 20:02:13 and maybe use it there too :) Dec 11 20:02:19 :-D Dec 11 20:02:37 and internal audio + usb headset is a nice testbed Dec 11 20:02:38 wow, my baby thrives Dec 11 20:02:56 especially as the headset might be there or not Dec 11 20:03:21 yeah, the worstcase testbed Dec 11 20:03:22 DocScrutinizer: e17 is lacking good support of pulseaudio Dec 11 20:03:29 so I don't mind getting rid of it Dec 11 20:05:50 Note: The 3.2.0+ releases contain a change in versioning to allow for multiple versions of libnl to be installed simultaneously. Dec 11 20:05:53 heh Dec 11 20:06:36 PaulFertser: can you emerge libnl-2 in parallel too? Dec 11 20:06:56 mrmoku: there's no libnl2 in current portage. Dec 11 20:07:12 ok Dec 11 20:07:16 * mrmoku doomed again Dec 11 20:07:25 * mrmoku checks if oe-core has libnl-3 ;) Dec 11 20:08:18 -rw-r--r-- 1 bitbake bitbake 1629 Dec 4 10:53 libnl_3.2.3.bb Dec 11 20:08:20 ahh nice Dec 11 20:08:25 at least meta-oe has it Dec 11 20:08:37 mickeyl: can we switch to libnl3 ? :-) Dec 11 20:09:10 wow, that exists? Dec 11 20:09:18 yup :) Dec 11 20:09:22 no idea, worth a try Dec 11 20:09:34 ok, will look into it Dec 11 20:09:38 cool Dec 11 20:16:52 nice http://upstream-tracker.org/diffs/libnl/2.0_to_3.0/diff.html Dec 11 20:33:43 mickeyl: hmm... Netlink.DumpType.ENV is no more Dec 11 20:43:45 hi lindi- Dec 11 20:43:54 GNUtoo: hi Dec 11 20:43:55 I've that: http://pastie.org/3001965 Dec 11 20:44:12 how can I workarround? Dec 11 20:45:40 is there something like --force-overwrite with aptitude? Dec 11 20:45:43 GNUtoo: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650829 Dec 11 20:45:48 ok looking Dec 11 20:46:42 hmmm Dec 11 20:46:48 mrmoku: yup, that's meta-smartphone has P_V for it as it's incompatible again Dec 11 20:46:53 the bugreport doesn't seem to have a resolution Dec 11 20:48:51 so what should I do? Dec 11 20:49:06 can I not install one of the conflicting package? Dec 11 20:49:34 let me look on the wiki to see if it's possible ( for instance by removing a task) Dec 11 20:50:15 hmmm Dec 11 20:50:40 format mount debian apt fso configuration tasks kernel cleanup unmount <- I guess I remove fso and install it later? Dec 11 20:51:47 JaMa, I've an oe question: meta-smartphone seems to use srcpv in some git recipes Dec 11 20:52:07 so I wonder how angstrom handle that with its multiple build host Dec 11 20:52:13 do they share the cache files Dec 11 20:52:53 trying to run 'opkg update' i get wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found Dec 11 20:53:06 in shr-core Dec 11 20:53:31 chomwitt, yes, did you do it on wifi or on usb? Dec 11 20:54:08 i have the gta02 connected to host through usb Dec 11 20:54:19 GNUtoo-netbook: they are not using OVERRIDE_LOCALCOUNT Dec 11 20:54:30 ah ok Dec 11 20:54:37 from neo (ping somehostname) works Dec 11 20:54:42 what's that exactly? Dec 11 20:54:42 chomwitt: for some feeds or all? Dec 11 20:54:55 if it's only some feeds it's normal Dec 11 20:55:20 i build shr-core 2 days ago Dec 11 20:55:26 chomwitt: I've added more "empty" feed dirs to 008 to hide this error Dec 11 20:56:06 that's why there are so many now http://build.shr-project.org/#fshr-core-staging%2F008%2Fipk%2F Dec 11 20:56:13 JaMa: what do we have incompatible apart from fso? Dec 11 20:59:30 maybe some networkmanager but that's not used by default.. so if you want to port fso, feel free to do it Dec 11 20:59:56 heh new issue with elsa Dec 11 20:59:57 SHR root@njama ~ $ elsa Dec 11 20:59:57 X�Պ?е�vH�����`�L�Y�Eet: Eet_Node mempool creation failed Dec 11 21:01:37 btw: buildhost is free, if someone wants to build something ping me :) Dec 11 21:01:43 :) Dec 11 21:02:01 networkmanager is compatible with all three flavours I think Dec 11 21:02:04 JaMa: what can i do to make 'opkg update' work? Dec 11 21:03:04 chomwitt: say which url doesn't work first Dec 11 21:03:14 mickeyl: is obj what this is for c++? Dec 11 21:06:04 ahh Dec 11 21:06:06 mickeyl: nvm :) Dec 11 21:06:54 http://paste.debian.net/148917/ Dec 11 21:07:49 chomwitt, that's normal Dec 11 21:07:50 chomwitt: this is fixed in 008 for our images Dec 11 21:08:21 chomwitt: and for your feed you have to copy that "empty" feed dirs like this http://build.shr-project.org/#f%2Fshr-core-staging%2F008%2Fipk%2Farm%2F Dec 11 21:08:38 or remove all nonexistent entries from /etc/opkg (that's what my install scripts do) Dec 11 21:15:03 ok. thanks. i'll try to follow that tip Dec 11 21:16:11 lindi-, I've read and re-read the bugreport but it doesn't contain any hints on what to do Dec 11 21:18:02 I'll try apt-get install -f Dec 11 21:19:58 mickeyl: gah, that missing ENV dumping seems to be a problem... Dec 11 21:20:12 guess I have to sleep a bit before solving it :) Dec 11 21:25:03 lindi-, I don't know what I did but it passed that error Dec 11 21:34:34 i tried to make the rigth changes and now i get http://paste.debian.net/148920/ Dec 11 21:42:50 ok. i thing i got it Dec 11 21:42:51 thanks Dec 11 21:53:54 what's elsa¿ Dec 12 00:24:05 first commit in efl gitorious to clean and update eflvala a bit. Still lots of work to do though u.u I arrived up to line 2257 from a total of 30k lines Elementary.h has... ugh Dec 12 00:34:36 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r56be2a261bfd 10/meta-nokia/ (2 files in 2 dirs): meta-nokia: add the HIDP module to the linux-nokia900-meego kernel defconfig Dec 12 01:44:43 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r6313b64fbc67 10/meta-shr/recipes-support/fbreader/fbreader-0.12.10/gcc45.patch: meta-shr: fbreader: Add patch header to gcc45.patch Dec 12 01:57:21 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r9ee4774a4ca1 10/meta-osmocombb/recipes-osmocombb/osmoconbb/ (libosmocore_git.bb osmocom.inc osmocon_git.bb): meta-osmocombb: factorize more in osmocom.inc Dec 12 01:57:29 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r7de61e939c94 10/meta-samsung/conf/machine/crespo.conf: meta-samsung: crespo.conf: remove duplicated bogus PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 12 02:59:56 2011