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Dec 16 06:33:28 <mrmoku> hah, image finished just in time :-)
Dec 16 06:45:05 <DocScrutinizer> moo
Dec 16 07:02:25 <DocScrutinizer> about to start week-3, maybe now with a bit fun. Read: touching real hw, flashing a few systems, tracing with Lauterbach etc :-D Almost started to be boring to learn about all this WinXP and ClearCase and whatnot
Dec 16 07:07:36 <JaMa> mrmoku: great :)
Dec 16 07:26:45 <mrmoku> JaMa: still has the dbus ownership issue... but that should be fixed with next update I think
Dec 16 07:26:52 <mrmoku> by rpurdie patching opkg
Dec 16 07:38:13 <JaMa> mrmoku: you still have that issue with that postinst in oe-core?
Dec 16 07:38:26 <JaMa> http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=shr&id=a52fd801030f6688043be7ab693cc20b91042758
Dec 16 07:39:21 <mrmoku> JaMa: I cloned shr-chroot yesterday morning and backlight is off after boot
Dec 16 07:39:28 <mrmoku> so I think I still have it
Dec 16 07:40:26 <JaMa> please check dbus-1 version
Dec 16 07:40:50 <JaMa> because if it doesn't work even with this work around then it's really strange..
Dec 16 07:41:16 <JaMa> without this it is still broken in many cases (hopefully that opkg patch will fix it for all)
Dec 16 07:41:21 <mrmoku> dbus-1.4.16-r1/
Dec 16 07:41:51 <mrmoku> JaMa: if I read rpurdies mail correctly problem is that opkg is executing postinst in wrong order
Dec 16 07:41:57 <mrmoku> not respecting dependencies
Dec 16 07:42:24 <mrmoku> so the postinst might just come before the messagebus user exists
Dec 16 07:43:11 <mrmoku> hmm
Dec 16 07:43:17 <mrmoku> maybe it's a gta04 hw issue too
Dec 16 07:43:17 <mrmoku> -rwsr-xr--  1 root messagebus 187568 Dec 15 14:50 dbus-daemon-launch-helper
Dec 16 07:43:23 <mrmoku> (from testlab)
Dec 16 07:43:38 <JaMa> mrmoku: testlab is not enough test
Dec 16 07:43:52 <JaMa> mrmoku: see the script on shr buildhost or #1711
Dec 16 07:43:52 <mrmoku> gta04 is already packed :)
Dec 16 07:44:06 <mrmoku> will check in Essen
Dec 16 07:44:10 <JaMa> ok.. 
Dec 16 07:44:31 <JaMa> basically you have to check tar with --numeric-owner against packed /etc/group
Dec 16 07:45:04 <JaMa> after last rp's patch I had all images with -rwsr-xr--  1 root messagebus 187568 Dec 15 14:50 dbus-daemon-launch-helper but in numeric values it was 998 instead of 997
Dec 16 07:45:36 <JaMa> so after unpacking with --numeric-owner the right name doesn't help and it ended owned by netdev or avahi in target system :/
Dec 16 07:48:10 <mrmoku> heh
Dec 16 07:50:14 * JaMa updating maps for Germany in maemo on n900 and "something went wrong".. :)
Dec 16 07:50:33 <JaMa> maybe they should name it Nokia Suite Unstable
Dec 16 07:51:06 <mrmoku> hehe
Dec 16 08:11:44 <mrmoku> ok, cu later
Dec 16 08:11:50 <mrmoku> JaMa: and don't forget the umbrella :P
Dec 16 08:20:39 <JaMa> ahh too late for that, but I don't mind getting wet :
Dec 16 08:20:56 * JaMa taking AC/DC to car :)
Dec 16 08:21:08 <JaMa> convertor not music :)
Dec 16 08:21:21 <JaMa> DC/AC..
Dec 16 12:21:01 <VQuickSilver> Hi guys, any idea why I'm getting this message while triying to launch Xorg on my phone? xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)
Dec 16 12:21:01 <VQuickSilver>  
Dec 16 12:42:40 <mickey|ICE722> morning
Dec 16 12:45:03 <mickey|ICE722> ~seen GNUtoo
Dec 16 12:45:10 <apt> gnutoo <~gnutoo@host1-132-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 20h 3m 37s ago, saying: 'maybe PM is better?'.
Dec 16 12:45:54 <VQuickSilver> mickey|ICE722, I think he said, that he won't be available this weekend.
Dec 16 12:46:08 <mickey|ICE722> d'oh!?
Dec 16 12:47:29 <VQuickSilver> <GNUtoo-netbook> unfortunately I"m not there this week-end
Dec 16 12:47:29 <VQuickSilver> <GNUtoo-netbook> I'm at FSOSHRCON
Dec 16 12:48:05 <mickey|ICE722> ah, ok, that's what he was referring to, ok, thanks
Dec 16 12:49:15 <mickey|ICE722> i'll have to look out for him in Essen then
Dec 16 12:49:25 <mickey|ICE722> (where fsoshrcon will take place)
Dec 16 13:27:48 <DocScrutinizer51> everybody's on the road to Essen?
Dec 16 15:04:41 <VQuickSilver> Hi guys, what's the correct way of creating /dev/input files on SHR, should I make a script calling mknod and put it in some place?
Dec 16 15:05:16 <VQuickSilver> that kind of things should be done by udev/mdev right?
Dec 16 16:23:19 <chomwitt> ~nf
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Dec 16 16:36:40 <rah> ok, I haves me a Neo 1973
Dec 16 16:36:57 <rah> I installed SHR-testing on it (the latest SHR image I could find for the 1973)
Dec 16 16:37:05 <rah> unfortunately, after boot it just sits there
Dec 16 16:37:08 <rah> does nothing
Dec 16 16:38:02 <rah> no GUI appears
Dec 16 16:38:06 <rah> what should happen?
Dec 16 17:03:44 <HeinervdmOff> mrmoku: are you already in essen?
Dec 16 17:08:03 <HeinervdmOff> mrmoku: i will probably leave in one hour and then arrive at linux hotel at 21:30
Dec 16 17:08:09 * HeinervdmOff back to work
Dec 16 17:29:08 <jake42> rah: afaik the images für neo 1973 haven't been tested due to lack of testers.
Dec 16 17:29:56 <rah> hmph
Dec 16 17:36:43 <mrmoku> HeinervdmOff: yup
Dec 16 17:39:38 <mrmoku> HeinervdmOff: ok, we won't wait for you with the pizza then ;)
Dec 16 17:44:58 <DocScrutinizer51> PIZZAAAAAAA
Dec 16 17:47:32 <rah> are there any instructions on compiling shr-core?
Dec 16 17:48:23 <Slyon> rah, http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR
Dec 16 17:48:52 <HeinervdmOff> mrmoku: for the case that i don't find the linuxhotel, can you give me your mobile number? :)
Dec 16 17:49:58 <rah> so it is
Dec 16 17:50:04 <lindi-> linuxhotel sounds like a place that should provide HD video feeds so that remote users can participate
Dec 16 17:51:17 <HeinervdmOff> hmm, my train is 30 minutes late...
Dec 16 17:51:37 <rah> there are a great many references to shr-unstable in that wiki page
Dec 16 17:52:28 <rah> by which I mean, that document has not been updated properly from when it instructed building of shr-unstable
Dec 16 18:07:15 <antrik> DocScrutinizer51: nope, not everyone on the road... I was taking the train ;-)
Dec 16 18:07:43 <DocScrutinizer> ooooooooooooo k
Dec 16 18:08:23 <DocScrutinizer> I got my LTE evalboard today to do a lil fun things with it
Dec 16 18:09:45 <DocScrutinizer> like ATI1 echoing my user name and lots of details about the particular FW build
Dec 16 18:11:22 <DocScrutinizer> I guess monday I have to replace the locked (dummy) SIM with my own real SIM to see if we already got some LTE Node-B
Dec 16 18:12:46 <DocScrutinizer> by the way, watch ST-Ericsson announcements regarding Thorium, it's a rather nice chipset
Dec 16 18:17:12 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: hey, so it took only a week or two for them to finally let you put your hands on some hw :)
Dec 16 18:17:37 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: how is it going?
Dec 16 18:18:06 <DocScrutinizer> yep, 2 weeks. Most of it spent to try and stay sane while using outlook/winXP/ClearCase etc
Dec 16 18:20:00 <DocScrutinizer> today I had a ppt file open (colleague opened it for me to show me details about flashing). I tried to make a bookmark (or simply write down the path where it came from) - - impossible in this M$Office crap, found no properties, "save as..." didn't show any useful path..., OhMy :-S
Dec 16 18:20:47 <DocScrutinizer> ergo: I opted to hibernate the whole shit rather than shit down, and hope for everything still there on Monday morning
Dec 16 18:21:05 <DocScrutinizer> I'm almost tempted to refuse to continue that madness
Dec 16 18:23:40 <DocScrutinizer> weather here really nasty since a week, without your nice gift I'd be lost
Dec 16 18:27:23 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: here the weather is awful as well, very humid and windy and rainy etc.
Dec 16 18:27:44 <DocScrutinizer> storm here, and cold, and of course rain
Dec 16 18:27:55 <DocScrutinizer> ~weather EDDN 
Dec 16 18:27:58 <apt> Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2011.12.16 1750 UTC; Dew Point: 37 F (3 C); Pressure (altimeter): 28.94 in. Hg (0980 hPa); Relative Humidity: 75%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 44 F (7 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the W (260 degrees) at 29 MPH (25 KT) gusting to 45 MPH (39 KT)
Dec 16 18:28:52 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: they say outlook helps to organise events by sharing calendar and todo items and something like that.
Dec 16 18:30:01 <DocScrutinizer> yeah, but it's impossible to get a sane aggregated view across a thread of in- and outbound msgs, while still showing To: for outbound and From: for inbound
Dec 16 18:30:59 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: probably you need to tolerate that insanity for a while and then they'll give you something more interesting. They have already given it in fact :)
Dec 16 18:31:15 <PaulFertser> mickey|FSOSHRCON: hey hey, ipv6 ftw ;)
Dec 16 18:31:20 <DocScrutinizer> outlook will stay
Dec 16 18:32:23 <mickey|FSOSHRCON> heyho
Dec 16 18:32:52 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: probably the server has already IMAP+SMTP enabled, and of course AD has usual LDAP access (for addressbook), so if only you could convince the sysadmins that you'd really like to use e.g. Thunderbird...
Dec 16 18:33:37 <DocScrutinizer> I'm trying to deal with it by copying all outbound from "Sent" to "MyInbox" via a "rule" (those rules are a whole own class of madness). Result: you can't set status "read" for outbound mails in those rules, so I now got 2 unread mails (one in "sent" one in "MyInbox", as you can only copy, not move)
Dec 16 18:33:49 <DocScrutinizer> for each mail I send
Dec 16 18:34:09 <DocScrutinizer> still all mails show either To or From in MyInbox
Dec 16 18:34:42 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: i wonder if you can open an official support ticket for your sysadmins to request them to explain to you how to do what you need given the current system or to provide an alternative solution.
Dec 16 18:34:56 <DocScrutinizer> (thunderbird) Policy forbids
Dec 16 18:35:46 <DocScrutinizer> My colleagues' mails to me always have the sender in CC: - guess why
Dec 16 18:36:13 * DocScrutinizer throws up
Dec 16 18:36:41 <DocScrutinizer> outlook: designed to drive intelligent people crazy
Dec 16 18:37:43 <DocScrutinizer> and that powerpoint / excel /whatnot bullshit with those RIBBONS is as unbearable
Dec 16 18:38:40 <DocScrutinizer> I want my menus back!!
Dec 16 18:39:57 <PaulFertser> Are those ribbons really that unusable? TBH i really suspect they seem odd for those who worked with more traditional systems before, but probably are "quite nice" for newcomers.
Dec 16 18:40:00 <DocScrutinizer> msie history is reachable via context menu of back/forward buttons. Alas those buttons are deactivated until you clicked a link in a webpage
Dec 16 18:41:52 <DocScrutinizer> firefox is - you guessed it - forbidden by policy
Dec 16 18:42:39 <DocScrutinizer> basically everything (sw) is forbidden by policy, and I can understand why. 
Dec 16 18:42:45 <PaulFertser> Why?
Dec 16 18:42:57 <DocScrutinizer> malware/virus
Dec 16 18:43:52 <DocScrutinizer> I'm handling "Company Confidential" tagged stuff whole day long
Dec 16 18:44:07 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: have you tried creating an official support ticket asking them to provide you with at least some sane sw you'd like to have?
Dec 16 18:44:27 <DocScrutinizer> Hah, not yet
Dec 16 18:45:29 <DocScrutinizer> it took like 10 days til I finally got my account on document server activated
Dec 16 18:45:42 <PaulFertser> It might help. Who knows, sometimes bureaucracy actions are hard to predict, so chances are they might listen to you in the end.
Dec 16 18:46:55 <DocScrutinizer> tickets tend to take a bit longer in a company with several 1000 employees, where support/admin is done in maybe Bangalore or London or somewhere in Sweden or Czech Rep
Dec 16 18:49:29 <rah> what is the purpose of using a chroot environment?
Dec 16 18:50:07 <ege> rah: security
Dec 16 18:50:32 <rah> ege: I don't understand
Dec 16 18:50:51 <ege> rah: bind for example runs in an chroot environment.
Dec 16 18:51:23 <ege> rah: it sees a root environment which is some of virtual
Dec 16 18:51:27 <rah> perhaps I need to qualify that
Dec 16 18:51:31 <rah> what is the purpose of using a chroot environment to build SHR?
Dec 16 18:53:11 <ege> rah: sorry , no idea
Dec 16 18:53:29 <ege> rah: may to match paths?
Dec 16 19:10:21 <jake42> rah: i think its just to make it easier to start building shr. the makefile just checks out the chroot and you're good to go.
Dec 16 19:11:27 <HeinerMobil> mrmoku: i will be even later 
Dec 16 19:11:46 <mrmoku> HeinerMobil: ok
Dec 16 19:11:49 <mrmoku> just 
Dec 16 19:11:52 <HeinerMobil> i will probably arrive at 22:00
Dec 16 19:11:55 <mrmoku> ring the doorbell when you arrive
Dec 16 19:12:04 <mrmoku> we'll still be awake
Dec 16 19:12:05 <mrmoku> :)
Dec 16 19:12:13 <HeinerMobil> ok :)
Dec 16 19:13:30 <HeinerMobil> in the case that i dont find it, i will write here :)
Dec 16 19:48:05 <JaMa> mrmoku: we're 3 hours from !H now :)
Dec 16 19:57:11 <mrmoku> JaMa: H ?
Dec 16 20:05:14 <JaMa> LH
Dec 16 20:14:24 <karl323> LH isn't in Germany so.... it might take a bit longer to arrival in Essen than expexted. ;-)
Dec 16 20:19:40 <JaMa> LH as LinuxHotel so 2 hours and we're there :)
Dec 16 20:23:59 <mrmoku> JaMa: yo
Dec 16 20:38:56 <rah> what is the purpose of using a chroot environment to build SHR?
Dec 16 20:45:03 <jake42> rah: i think its there to make it easier start building shr. the makefile just checks out the chroot and you're good to go.
Dec 16 20:45:32 <Slyon> mickey|FSOSHRCON, http://pastebin.com/XH11jvTa
Dec 16 20:45:42 <mickey|FSOSHRCON> thax
Dec 16 20:45:44 <mickey|FSOSHRCON> thanx
Dec 16 20:45:58 * mickey|FSOSHRCON 's gta04 phones without gsm antenna
Dec 16 20:47:05 <JaMa> mickey|FSOSHRCON: is it snowing a lot there too?
Dec 16 20:49:59 <rah> jake42: what does the chroot contain that makes it that much easier?
Dec 16 20:52:51 <mickey|FSOSHRCON> snow? not at all
Dec 16 20:52:51 <mickey|FSOSHRCON> where is it snowing?
Dec 16 20:56:50 <pespin|pub> FSOSHRCON guys, save the embedded free world while I take some beers! ;)
Dec 16 21:04:10 <mickey|FSOSHRCON> pespin|pub: your wish is our command :D
Dec 16 21:04:14 <mickey|FSOSHRCON> cheers
Dec 16 21:17:29 <jake42> rah: the very same env is used on the build server afaik
Dec 16 21:20:08 <JaMa> yes exactly same :)
Dec 16 21:20:27 <JaMa> and on many developer boxes too
Dec 16 21:21:37 <JaMa> so if you have any issues during build it's more likely we'll be able to reproduce
Dec 16 21:28:43 <mrmoku> JaMa: how's going?
Dec 16 21:32:09 <DocScrutinizer51> cheers
Dec 16 21:37:53 <rah> jake42: that doesn't answer my question :-)
Dec 16 21:38:26 <rah> what does the chroot environment contain that makes it that much easier to build SHR?
Dec 16 21:43:41 <antrik> rah: the chroot is simply a system installation with all dependencies already installed and configured properly
Dec 16 21:44:17 <antrik> otherwise you have to set up everything up youself, which is a lot of effort, and can be quite hairy
Dec 16 21:44:43 <antrik> (with all the dependencies on recent or even unreleased packages)
Dec 16 21:44:46 <rah> antrik: can you give me an example of what needs to be set up?
Dec 16 21:44:58 <antrik> libnl
Dec 16 21:45:16 <rah> "Netlink Protocol Library Suite (libnl)"
Dec 16 21:45:16 <rah> ?
Dec 16 21:45:18 <rah> that?
Dec 16 21:45:23 <antrik> libnl2 to be more precise, which most distros don't even ship AIUI
Dec 16 21:45:48 <antrik> also, non-release vala
Dec 16 21:45:54 <rah> antrik: why does that need to be installed?
Dec 16 21:46:05 <antrik> often EFL (though might work with released one right now)
Dec 16 21:46:08 <rah> why does libnl2 need to be installed?
Dec 16 21:46:25 <antrik> because stuff depends on it?
Dec 16 21:46:33 <rah> what stuff depends on it?
Dec 16 21:46:55 <rah> can you give me an example?
Dec 16 21:47:23 <antrik> no
Dec 16 21:47:27 <rah> hmm
Dec 16 21:47:48 <antrik> well for Vala it's pretty much all FSO stuff
Dec 16 21:48:03 <antrik> for EFL it's many of the UI components
Dec 16 21:48:10 <rah> as I understand it, bitbake recipies depend on and automatically build native packages as it goes
Dec 16 21:48:11 <antrik> for libnl I don't remember
Dec 16 21:48:23 <antrik> but really, what's the point of this question?
Dec 16 21:48:53 <rah> so one would only expect build tools to be a requirement
Dec 16 21:49:01 <antrik> hm
Dec 16 21:49:06 <rah> and I can't imagine how libnl2 would come in to build tools
Dec 16 21:49:14 <antrik> good point
Dec 16 21:49:27 <antrik> so answer is: I don't really know either :-)
Dec 16 21:51:05 <karl443> about themes, would this work on illume2? http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/23+ounces+of+Glass+AKA+23_oz?content=147503 I might like to have this design on n900. (can't test myself due defect uSD).
Dec 16 21:56:23 <JaMa> mrmoku: 0:45 but it's snowing a lot
Dec 16 21:59:24 <JaMa> antrik: that's not tru completely :)
Dec 16 22:00:07 <JaMa> antrik: shr-chroot doesn't have any libnl or efl..
Dec 16 22:01:03 <JaMa> rah: you're right, whatever is needed is built by bitbake
Dec 16 22:01:33 <JaMa> except few dependencies like python (to run bitbake at all)
Dec 16 22:02:19 <JaMa> and average disto is usually good enoug (no need for extra or even unreleased stuff)
Dec 16 22:04:05 <mrmoku> JaMa: fun... here no snow so far
Dec 16 22:04:38 <JaMa> but e.g. gcc,binutisl,python,make are used to build -native recipes and shr-chroot gives you exactly that - tested toolchain to run bitbake builds with it
Dec 16 22:05:07 <rah> hah
Dec 16 22:06:21 <rah> I have to wonder what the value of the chroot is then; if someone can't install a valid toolchain, I can't imagine they would try to build shr
Dec 16 22:06:49 <JaMa> still many tried and failed
Dec 16 22:07:04 <mrmoku> rah: running 'make setup-shr-chroot' is easier than installing a valid toolchain
Dec 16 22:08:34 <JaMa> rah: other advantage is, tak if some recipe is looking for development headers badly (first in host directories, then sysroot from bitbeke) then it's advantge it's minimal
Dec 16 22:09:46 <JaMa> and still it's optional step, nobody is forcing people who are able to maintain valit toolchain to use it
Dec 16 22:10:15 <rah> mrmoku: admittedly, there are 11 more characters in "apt-get install build-essentials" than "make setup-shr-chroot" but I is added complexity and brittleness of the chroot/Makefile system really worth typing 11 fewer characters? :-)
Dec 16 22:10:38 <rah> mrmoku: particularly seeing as we've had cut-and-paste terminals for.. oh.. 20 years or so ;-)
Dec 16 22:12:32 <mrmoku> rah: well... don't use it then ;=)
Dec 16 22:12:48 <mrmoku> and who knows that build-essentials accounts as valid toolchain
Dec 16 22:13:04 <mrmoku> and not everybody is using debian anyway
Dec 16 22:13:24 <mrmoku> rah: seriously... there is no law forcing you to use the chroot
Dec 16 22:13:36 <mrmoku> if it works for you without that's fine as well :-)
Dec 16 22:14:08 <rah> aye
Dec 16 22:14:15 <rah> I'm giving it a go without the chroot
Dec 16 22:14:50 <rah> perhaps I'll be overcome with build pain and see the wisdom of the chroot system
Dec 16 22:14:53 <rah> we'll see :-)
Dec 16 22:16:55 <mrmoku> :)
Dec 16 22:18:03 <JaMa> mrmoku: 30 mins and no swow now :)
Dec 16 22:20:36 <mrmoku> JaMa: hehe, no snow is a good sign you're going in the correct direction :P
Dec 16 22:35:38 <JaMa> mrmoku: knick,knock
Dec 16 22:41:08 <VQuickSilver> any reason for not viewing Xorg on fbdev, and when stoping Xorg seeing  "the last frame" without problems?
Dec 16 22:42:19 <VQuickSilver> I have seen that GNUtoo implemented a patch for msm_fb doing a thread to force refresh, but my msm_fb code is much newer, and seems like it already has functions for refreshing it.
Dec 16 22:42:35 <GNUtoo> VQuickSilver, hi
Dec 16 22:42:43 <VQuickSilver> Hi GNUtoo 
Dec 16 22:43:09 <GNUtoo> yes
Dec 16 22:43:21 <GNUtoo> you need the refresh thread indeed
Dec 16 22:43:40 <GNUtoo> else also try to remove the framebuffer console if you have one
Dec 16 22:43:45 <VQuickSilver> GNUtoo, when I stop xorg I can see a enlightement window
Dec 16 22:43:57 <VQuickSilver> while Xorg is running I only see garbage
Dec 16 22:44:53 <VQuickSilver> GNUtoo, but in msm_fb I have even diferent abstract data types, applying your patch it's not trivial
Dec 16 22:48:46 <VQuickSilver> GNUtoo, this is your patch right? https://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/22a5ffec6f8ad3ced15aaac952163431a352bb5b/diffs
Dec 16 23:34:24 <rah> Running task 68 of 5431
Dec 16 23:34:31 <rah> eek
Dec 16 23:37:19 <JaMa> NOTE: Running task 6110 of 6112
Dec 16 23:37:24 <Slyon> GNUtoo, i put the video here: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Look
Dec 16 23:37:42 <antrik> ~e
Dec 16 23:37:42 <apt> i heard e is a little more than 2, but less than 3 or portuguese for and, or very roughly 2.71828182, or mc^2, or the most worthless letter in the alphabet according to extensive research done by withoutclass
Dec 16 23:38:46 <GNUtoo> Slyon, ok
Dec 16 23:40:45 <antrik> whoops
Dec 16 23:52:42 <JaMa> Slyon: do you have rev?
Dec 16 23:52:56 <Slyon> ffphonelog: d4f4fdf582af2da0c971c7124a0c843da2567d38
Dec 16 23:53:21 <Slyon> ffalarms: 7f27c2f42a72d1076f5ce224659f2e2ea09bc5af
Dec 17 00:00:41 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r192a27c07972 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/shr/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libphone-ui-shr: fix theme files after EFL changes
Dec 17 00:00:42 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r6bce41e152c6 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/ffphonelog_git.bb: ffphonelog: bump SRCREV
Dec 17 00:00:42 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rdb0a27bb5db8 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/iliwi_git.bb: iliwi: bump SRCREV
Dec 17 00:00:42 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r03f416ff2978 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-graphics/mesa/mesa-dri_7.11.bbappend: mesa-dri: apply glamo.patch only for armv4
Dec 17 00:00:42 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * ra4557d983b10 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-graphics/drm/libdrm_2.4.27.bbappend: libdrm: apply glamo.patch only for armv4
Dec 17 00:00:42 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * ra5db1a69dfe4 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/emtooth2_svn.bb: emtooth2: add more RDEPENDS SHR bug #1577
Dec 17 00:09:52 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rb2a68f1af77c 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/ffalarms_git.bb: ffalarms: bump SRCREV
Dec 17 00:20:52 <VQuickSilver> gnight
Dec 17 01:33:26 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r1415b7f43e12 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/shr/ (3 files in 2 dirs): shr-wizard: disable appshadow move to volatile
Dec 17 01:33:51 <JaMa> mrmoku: ^:)
Dec 17 01:38:50 <mrmoku> :)
Dec 17 02:01:13 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rc1d7a17bfa49 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/emtooth2_svn.bb: emtooth2: make libasound-module-bluez kernel-module-btusb only RRECOMMENDS, ie n900 doesn't have btusb module now
Dec 17 02:22:04 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-e-gadgets * r32f3685d3b3f 10/src/softkey_quickpanel/main.c: fix changed callback name
Dec 17 02:25:07 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * raae8f1702793 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/shr/shr-e-gadgets_git.bb: shr-e-gadgets: bump SRCREV
Dec 17 02:25:18 <CIA-82> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * re5cbb7198f66 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/ (intone/0001-fix-changed-callback-name.patch intone_svn.bb): intone: add patch to fix callback name
Dec 17 02:59:23 <karl778> so, after checking my uSD in diffrent cardreader and diffrent pcs, I came to the conclusion it isn't defect. still, it gives errors on n900. some google later I found this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72789 and it seems like the meego kernel needs a patch. If you have some sd cards giving IO errors like mine then test it, please. I have no build envroiment avaible at the moment, to test it myself.
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