**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 31 02:59:57 2011 Dec 31 06:00:34 moinmoin Dec 31 06:00:46 moin moin Dec 31 06:16:01 ~seen morphis Dec 31 06:16:07 morphis <~morphis@dslb-088-071-241-007.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 10h 57m 50s ago, saying: 'bye'. Dec 31 07:53:20 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r39fab88385d8 10/libfsosystem/configure.ac: fsosystemd: add missing check for libgee Dec 31 09:36:03 ~seen slyon Dec 31 09:36:06 slyon <~lukas@pD958DC09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 16h 54m 9s ago, saying: 'ah that's annoying to'. Dec 31 10:11:06 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2fc3283af372 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/at/atcommand.vala: fsogsmd: add more functionality to custom at command class Dec 31 10:11:07 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2a6cd8d6a3eb 10/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_option_gtm601/ (plugin.vala unsolicited.vala): fsogsmd: modem_option_gtm601: misc fixes for registration Dec 31 10:19:17 ~seen gnutoo Dec 31 10:19:20 gnutoo <~gnutoo@host204-5-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 11h 14m 44s ago, saying: 'JaMa, hi again, could you activate meta-osmocombb in the Makefile repo?'. Dec 31 10:31:32 mickeyl: feeling lonely? :) Dec 31 10:31:49 somewhat ;) Dec 31 10:31:53 no gta04 owners in da house :D Dec 31 11:07:53 how many could be there? Dec 31 11:14:01 hah droid 4 keyboard looks really nice! 5 rows, tab, slash, enough space to map pipe to some key too Dec 31 11:14:07 http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/30/droid-4-hands-on-with-dummy-unit/ Dec 31 12:53:18 morphis: heyho Dec 31 12:54:05 hey Dec 31 13:00:10 JaMa|Wrk: heyho Dec 31 13:00:48 JaMa|Wrk: I tested your qt-4.8 aurora image Dec 31 13:01:37 JaMa|Wrk: it's completely missing the qt libraries Dec 31 13:07:13 not pulled to image right? Dec 31 13:08:05 hmm looks like only qt.* package pulled to image is qt4-plugin-imageformat-svg_4.8.0-r36.0_armv7a-vfp-neon.ipk Dec 31 13:08:51 yes Dec 31 13:08:52 morphis: can you set ipk url feeds to that server and try to install them manually? Dec 31 13:09:13 JaMa|Wrk: yes but later Dec 31 13:09:15 if aurora is linked to them then bumping PR should be enough to pull them again Dec 31 13:09:29 no problem, no hurry Dec 31 13:09:35 ok Dec 31 13:09:44 it's something for the new year Dec 31 13:09:45 :) Dec 31 13:14:07 tomorrow right? :) Dec 31 13:14:25 not directly tomorrow :) Dec 31 13:14:51 as it been a topic 3min ago in another channel: do you hax0rs include hostmode patches to N900 kernel? Dec 31 13:15:38 or rather: what's the suggested kernel for N900-SHR at all? Dec 31 13:17:09 JaMa|Wrk: we removed fsoaudiod from the image but is it ok if we just pull one package of it in again? Dec 31 13:17:32 DocScrutinizer: it's this http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/nokia900/kernel-adaptation-n900-2.6.37-57.1 so based on meego kernel for n900 Dec 31 13:17:43 mhm Dec 31 13:17:55 so I guess no hostmode for N900 Dec 31 13:17:56 morphis: I guess yes Dec 31 13:18:13 ok Dec 31 13:18:43 fsckng meego kernel Dec 31 13:18:46 as I need a simple alsa hook plugin to get audio working correctly on Nexus S Dec 31 13:19:47 DocScrutinizer: I'm still tracking git://gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_kernel.git but even with 3.* already there it's really quiet and last 3.* doesn't work very well :/ Dec 31 13:20:52 DocScrutinizer: so your suggestion is to use power-kernel variant? is someone working on updating it for newer kernel or is it still only for 3.6.35? (that's what I have in meamo). Dec 31 13:21:08 yeah, meego-hw-adaption/mer team never was very much into decent kernel development Dec 31 13:21:40 nobody ports powerkernel to 3.x Dec 31 13:22:41 btw what kernel is on your n9/n950? Dec 31 13:22:47 basically you'd need to "rebase" on 3.x kernel all the Nokia patches and powerkernel/hostmode patches Dec 31 13:23:02 hah, good question Dec 31 13:23:30 RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# uname -a Dec 31 13:23:32 Linux RM680 2.6.32.39-dfl61-20112201 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 1 18:17:45 EEST 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux Dec 31 13:24:01 aegis kernel :-S Dec 31 13:28:43 DocScrutinizer: first I want to finish upgrade of GTA02 to 3.2, then we can start with n900 Dec 31 13:28:59 sounds like a plan Dec 31 13:30:08 morphis: btw, how is it with ICS kernel on nexus S? have you tried it yet? Dec 31 13:30:23 JaMa|Wrk: I tried it, it boots Dec 31 13:30:36 but I need to figure out how to configure usbnet correctly Dec 31 13:30:47 as I didn't had ssh access with my first tries Dec 31 13:31:14 but I will work on this after SHR 2012.01 is out Dec 31 13:31:28 good, so maybe fore next release we can try to push all supported devices to newer kernels Dec 31 13:32:44 yes Dec 31 13:32:50 but not palmpre* devices Dec 31 13:32:52 sadly Dec 31 13:45:01 JaMa|Wrk: is it possible that we close all active ssh connections on shutdown in SHR? Dec 31 13:52:34 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r03caa6d6af7f 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/herring_quirks/ (Makefile.am alsa.vala plugin.vala): Dec 31 13:52:34 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: herring_quirks: add quirk to keep one alsa stream all-time open Dec 31 13:52:34 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Dec 31 13:52:35 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r391ea68be610 10/fsoaudiod/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Dec 31 13:52:35 freesmartphone.org: fsoaudiod: alsa plugins: move session plugin into own subdirectory Dec 31 13:52:35 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Dec 31 13:52:47 * JaMa|Wrk going home, bbl Dec 31 14:03:41 Hi people! Dec 31 14:05:56 SHR: 03morphis 07libphone-ui * rfdb7ec6ecb8b 10/conf/crespo/libphoneui.conf: Add specific configuration file for crespo machine (Nexus S) Dec 31 14:06:18 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r6229521e3fa4 10/meta-samsung/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-samsung-crespo_git.bb: meta-samsung: linux-samsung-crespo: bump SRCREV Dec 31 14:06:19 SHR: 03morphis 07meta-smartphone * r5f770fcf912c 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/cornucopia.inc: meta-fso: cornucopia: bump SRCREV for audio related fixes for crespo machine Dec 31 14:38:41 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-themes * r138355d6a6ad 10/e-wm/e-wm-theme-illume-gry/gry.edc: e-wm-theme-illume-gry: add fixed to fix error message in Xsession.log Dec 31 14:40:06 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r97a8179c64b2 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/shr/e-wm-theme-illume-gry_git.bb: e-wm-theme-illume-gry: bump SRCREV Dec 31 14:49:07 . Dec 31 14:49:10 . Dec 31 14:49:43 oops sorry(imprecise touchscreen) Dec 31 14:59:50 gnutoo: hi, meta-osmocombb was added 2 days ago when you first asked Dec 31 15:00:18 ok thanks Dec 31 15:00:26 gnutoo: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=shr-makefile.git;a=commit;h=2e0261b5557dd5cf3a984a11baf2909d6ddbc9ad Dec 31 15:01:10 ok i'm on gta04 right now... Dec 31 15:05:30 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r4909ea80947d 10/fsodeviced/conf/herring/fsodeviced.conf: Dec 31 15:05:31 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: conf: herring: load herring_quirks plugin before alsa router/player Dec 31 15:05:31 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch Dec 31 15:24:20 Project shr-core-deploy-cleanup build #4: SUCCESS in 19 sec: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-deploy-cleanup/4/ Dec 31 15:56:56 Project shr-core-nokia900-aurora-image build #5: SUCCESS in 32 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-nokia900-aurora-image/5/ Dec 31 16:18:57 about n900 kernel. did you try a recent kernel from mainline? I mean looking there: http://elektranox.org/n900/kernel/status.html including stagging there shouldn't be much patching needed... in theory. Dec 31 16:24:12 Project shr-core-nokia900-shr-image build #31: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-nokia900-shr-image/31/ Dec 31 16:24:34 there are also a bunch of omap fixes since .37 that'd be nice to have, i think. Dec 31 16:33:44 yo Dec 31 16:36:08 GNUtoo: sound should be fixed meanwhile in 3.2, no? Dec 31 16:38:16 anyway... got to prepare the 'last-night-of-the-year-dinner' now :) Dec 31 16:38:42 hope you all do the same and have a good start into the next year Dec 31 16:38:49 which is the year of the release :P Dec 31 16:39:02 even if Ainulindale and TAsn still don't believe it ;) Dec 31 16:39:13 bb next year Dec 31 16:49:29 mrmoku, hi Dec 31 16:50:00 mrmoku, sound *is* fixed now Dec 31 16:50:25 now I can start working on the userspace sound thing Dec 31 16:50:29 for call Dec 31 16:50:31 *calls Dec 31 16:51:59 Project shr-core-om-gta02-aurora-image build #5: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-om-gta02-aurora-image/5/ Dec 31 16:54:08 Next month i'm going to buy an Samsung Galaxy 5 and try to boot linux with android fastboot tool,someone with android knowledge could tell me if it will work? Dec 31 16:59:02 Project shr-core-om-gta02-feed build #3: SUCCESS in 7 min 2 sec: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-om-gta02-feed/3/ Dec 31 16:59:58 galaxy S you mean? Dec 31 17:00:28 ah no the galaxy 5 does exist Dec 31 17:00:32 check with morphis Dec 31 17:01:03 yes, galaxy 5 quite less expensive here Dec 31 17:01:14 Qualcomm device Dec 31 17:01:20 i'll check when he is on Dec 31 17:02:34 hey mrmoku - happy new year! Dec 31 17:06:13 happy GNU year everybody Dec 31 17:27:05 Project shr-core-om-gta02-shr-image build #62: SUCCESS in 28 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-om-gta02-shr-image/62/ Dec 31 18:50:35 happy 'GNU' year to you too GNUtoo :P Dec 31 19:13:56 thanks Dec 31 20:03:25 mrmoku, ;P Dec 31 20:03:47 mrmoku, I believe it! :) Dec 31 20:07:13 angelox|laptop, qualcomm devices are bad Dec 31 20:08:50 GNUtoo|laptop: hm, in which points? Dec 31 20:09:45 what's the exact SOC? Dec 31 20:09:55 roughly for freedom it's very bad Dec 31 20:10:28 the modem controls the "sound card" and so the microphone, the GPS and can write/read in the main CPU memory Dec 31 20:10:44 then with reguard to software we had huge issues with the htcdream Dec 31 20:11:05 but if it's a higher end device like the nexus one you should have more luck Dec 31 20:11:11 an alsa driver was written for it Dec 31 20:11:15 and it works quite well Dec 31 20:11:24 you'll have to port it obviously Dec 31 20:12:35 the port can be finished with the dream Dec 31 20:12:40 but I don't care anymore Dec 31 20:12:50 it's rated as the less expensive smartphone ever Dec 31 20:13:27 Qualcomm MSM7x27 Dec 31 20:13:32 possible but are you ready for hitting your head against the wall so often that you have issues after? Dec 31 20:13:37 like nervousness that I got Dec 31 20:14:07 and mickeyl got issues too Dec 31 20:14:14 he abandoned the work on fso for a while Dec 31 20:14:42 i have 0% of kernel hacking knowledge Dec 31 20:14:52 that is a huge problem with theses devices Dec 31 20:14:57 you need to do kernel work Dec 31 20:15:04 so or you learn as you go Dec 31 20:15:08 or the device won't work Dec 31 20:15:12 and kernel is not simple Dec 31 20:15:26 I mean it was simple 20 years ago Dec 31 20:15:35 but now the complexity has grown a lot Dec 31 20:16:25 to add to that android kernel are badly written, specially for qualcomm SOC Dec 31 20:16:32 and they work only with android Dec 31 20:16:44 so you'll have to debug why it doesn't work with GNU/Linux Dec 31 20:16:55 but said that a lot of work has already been done Dec 31 20:17:48 unfortunately that is the only one device i can buy atm, it costs ~99 dollars on ebay,but in Brazil you pay about 212 dollars Dec 31 20:19:38 then we must look more into it before you choose to buy or not to buy Dec 31 20:20:30 hmmm I just looked and sound is not fixed in htcdream Dec 31 20:21:19 GNUtoo|laptop, what about the nexus s. Is this more free? Dec 31 20:21:40 I've seen a shr image for it Dec 31 20:22:18 GNUtoo|laptop: LG Optimus me is also an option,but also uses the MSM7x27 processor Dec 31 20:22:59 ege, yes it's much better, it's like the gta02 with a non-free bootloader and some firmwares(wifi,etc...) Dec 31 20:23:22 basically the CPU controls the CODEC("sound card") Dec 31 20:23:32 the GPS is attached to the main CPU Dec 31 20:23:44 that sounds good Dec 31 20:23:48 the modem can't read the main CPU memory nor the NAND Dec 31 20:24:02 in fact it's the main CPU which loads the modem firmware Dec 31 20:24:27 I'm about to buy a nexus s, but not yet shure about it Dec 31 20:24:38 look well at the stats first Dec 31 20:24:40 *status Dec 31 20:25:07 I've not built for it lately Dec 31 20:25:08 I saw the doodle about hardwar usage an nexus s has been on the last position :( Dec 31 20:25:24 but telephony + data should work Dec 31 20:25:27 suspend resume too Dec 31 20:25:35 however wifi doesn't work yet Dec 31 20:26:00 does it support usb-network like gta02? Dec 31 20:26:11 ege, somehow Dec 31 20:26:36 it's not strictly speaking usbnet but it acts the same Dec 31 20:26:49 because it uses an android gadget Dec 31 20:27:03 so you echo something(done by shr) and that actvates usbnet Dec 31 20:27:44 for the user it looks the same Dec 31 20:27:45 sounds good enough to have internet connectin without using umts/gprs Dec 31 20:28:05 look if deactivation is implemented tough Dec 31 20:28:43 deactivation? Dec 31 20:29:06 ahh of the GPRS :) Dec 31 20:29:09 disconnection from 3g Dec 31 20:29:10 yes bye Dec 31 20:29:13 I must go Dec 31 20:29:19 bye Dec 31 20:29:36 thanks :) Dec 31 20:37:18 wow, at least here some traffic Dec 31 20:37:35 yeah a bit :) Dec 31 20:37:39 I already thought sth is severely wrong with my life Dec 31 20:37:58 I think it depends on your age :) Dec 31 20:38:39 If you are beneath 20 you should have party now though Dec 31 20:40:41 good point, I'm actually too old for that shit outside Dec 31 20:40:57 me too :) Dec 31 20:42:15 well, happy new year then Dec 31 20:42:35 * DocScrutinizer turns back to NavyCIS in TV Dec 31 20:42:36 happy new year DocScrutinizer Dec 31 21:01:23 why would anybody want to disconnect from GPRS? Dec 31 21:01:53 an widespread misconception that this could generally save any energy Dec 31 21:02:40 to use usb network and not expensive gprs connection Dec 31 21:03:10 it's more like swirching your walkietalkie from channel 327 to channel 0 though, in the faulty expectation of huge energy savings Dec 31 21:03:39 aaah, now I got the point Dec 31 21:03:41 :-D Dec 31 21:04:05 :) Dec 31 21:05:25 I should read more carefully, thought about normal tethering of GPRS via USB networking Dec 31 21:36:49 ( the modem controls the "sound card" and so the microphone, the GPS and can write/read in the main CPU memory) sounds like nova-thor Dec 31 21:49:43 DocScrutinizer, to save money Dec 31 21:49:47 for GPRS Dec 31 21:49:58 because for me it costs 1E/day but only if you use it Dec 31 21:54:13 1€/day unlimited? a good deal Dec 31 21:55:34 nevertheless for once/day I'd not worry too much about how to enable/disable it. Could be done by setting an invalid APN if nothing else works Dec 31 21:55:53 IOW for once a day you could even reboot Dec 31 21:56:30 I thought you were worried about tearing down GPRS connection after 90s of no usage Dec 31 21:56:48 which us generally a poor idea Dec 31 21:56:52 is* Dec 31 22:02:08 I have a plan paying 0.25E/day of use Jan 01 00:13:54 happy UTC new year! Jan 01 02:09:21 Happy Brazillian new year :D **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 01 02:59:57 2012