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Jan 12 05:09:48 <CIA-77> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r4fc77ec12402 10/tools/mdbus2/configure.ac: 
Jan 12 05:09:48 <CIA-77> freesmartphone.org: tools: mdbus2: determine git srcrev correctly from repository
Jan 12 05:09:48 <CIA-77> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Jan 12 05:09:52 <CIA-77> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rb99213afeeac 10/tools/mdbus2/src/main.vala: 
Jan 12 05:09:52 <CIA-77> freesmartphone.org: tools: mdbus2: correct parsing of arguments with leading spaces
Jan 12 05:09:52 <CIA-77> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de>
Jan 12 08:43:54 <apt> Hi there, see:  http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1148886&postcount=668. Is the proposition of sponsoring server for few months still actual?
Jan 12 08:51:23 <CIA-77> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rcd6bcadd79b2 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/freesmartphone/fsoaudiod_git.bb: fsoaudiod: temporary bump SRCREV in recipe
Jan 12 10:15:30 <CIA-77> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r502487e54b45 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/3rdparty/ (mcnavi_0.3.1.bb mcnavi_0.3.2.bb): mcnavi: upgrade to 0.3.2
Jan 12 10:15:40 <CIA-77> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r31d7990c1fbb 10/meta-shr/recipes-shr/tasks/task-shr-feed.bb: task-shr-feed: return mcnavi
Jan 12 13:45:26 <JaMa> where is everybody? :)
Jan 12 13:46:18 <JaMa> fwiw jenkins is mostly blue again
Jan 12 13:53:30 <angelox|laptop> at least i'm here JaMa :)
Jan 12 13:54:43 <mrmoku> JaMa: blue is good or bad? :P
Jan 12 13:54:55 <JaMa> red is bad, blue is perfect :)
Jan 12 13:55:47 <JaMa> there is also weather icon, but sun is shining on more than half tasks too :)
Jan 12 13:56:48 <JaMa> nschle upgraded, so it's maybe even faster than my machine
Jan 12 13:56:53 <mrmoku> that fits with what I see when I'm looking out of the window :)
Jan 12 13:56:58 <JaMa> and about 10 times faster then our buildhost :)
Jan 12 13:58:47 <mrmoku> hehe :)
Jan 12 14:39:45 <pespin> JaMa, may I add Power column to StagingTests? autosuspend is not working since quite long in shr-core
Jan 12 14:42:08 <JaMa> I have no problem with that added
Jan 12 14:42:27 <JaMa> but maybe add description to legend, so people know what to fill there
Jan 12 14:43:25 <JaMa> and adding N there doesn't substitute proper bug report and trac ticket number in comments..
Jan 12 14:44:23 <JaMa> and fwiw autosuspend works here afaik
Jan 12 14:46:33 <pespin> JaMa, are you sure it works there? I can't recall having it working since I started using shr-core.
Jan 12 14:50:53 <JaMa> what exactly doesn't work for you? disabling autosuspend when on usb power or doesn't suspend at all?
Jan 12 14:51:15 <pespin> JaMa, unplugging it doesn't activate autosuspend
Jan 12 14:51:55 <JaMa> because I usually have it connected to usb power or doesn't want it to suspend, but if I forgot to disable autosuspends it suspends 
Jan 12 14:51:56 <pespin> which is a pita because I need to remember to suspend it manually when I finish using it, or all my battery drains when I want to use it after several hours
Jan 12 14:52:12 <pespin> JaMa, I mean when it's not connected to power
Jan 12 14:52:15 <pespin> it should autosuspend
Jan 12 14:52:30 <pespin> try unplugging it and leaving it unplugged for several mins
Jan 12 14:52:39 <pespin> it won't suspend
Jan 12 14:52:53 <JaMa> it's at home, cannot test this remotely
Jan 12 14:53:10 <JaMa> but after fsodeviced upgrade (restart) it suspends even on usb power
Jan 12 14:53:41 <pespin> I upgraded like 3 hours ago, and it doesn't suspend here
Jan 12 14:53:42 <JaMa> then I have to wake it up remotely by calling it :)
Jan 12 14:53:46 <pespin> and restarted too ;)
Jan 12 14:54:15 <JaMa> please fill bug report about it
Jan 12 14:54:29 <pespin> ok
Jan 12 14:54:52 <JaMa> and if you say "upgraded like 3 hours ago" then better add from which feed :)
Jan 12 14:56:15 <pespin> JaMa, maybe this in fsodeviced.log explains it -> 2012-01-12T14:53:46.451866Z [WARN]  Kernel26AggregatePowerSupply </sys/class/power_supply>: Not present; treating it like an AC adapter
Jan 12 14:56:42 <pespin> I have lots of this messages
Jan 12 15:08:40 <pespin> done, I'll attach it to a StageTest review http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1664
Jan 12 15:18:04 <pespin> mrmoku, btw, each time I boot, I get a white screen with a close button at the bottom, which I guess is somehow related to phoneui (booting without SIM)
Jan 12 15:19:00 <mrmoku> pespin: hmm, ok
Jan 12 15:19:13 <mrmoku> possible that should be the NO SIM dialog yeah
Jan 12 15:19:28 * mrmoku boots without SIM
Jan 12 15:19:45 <pespin> mrmoku, a dialog which has no content apart from the close button from what I can see :P
Jan 12 15:20:47 <mrmoku> pespin: you have catalan as locale? ;)
Jan 12 15:20:54 <pespin> good question
Jan 12 15:21:16 <pespin> not in ssh session at least
Jan 12 15:21:26 <pespin> I guess no, cause I didn't install any local package at all
Jan 12 15:21:32 <mrmoku> ok, then  no
Jan 12 15:21:37 <mrmoku> damn
Jan 12 15:22:05 * mrmoku wanted to assign guiltiness to the translation team ;)
Jan 12 15:22:08 <pespin> mrmoku, are you using edje for the dialog? or plain elm?
Jan 12 15:22:17 <pespin> hahaha
Jan 12 15:22:38 <pespin> I guess in that case I'd be the one to blame hehe
Jan 12 15:22:46 <mrmoku> the full windows are all layout in edje
Jan 12 15:22:57 <mrmoku> and that NO SIM dialog is a full one
Jan 12 15:23:03 <mrmoku> but I don't get it on gta04
Jan 12 15:23:37 <pespin> then we have 2 bugs
Jan 12 15:23:41 <pespin> hahahah
Jan 12 15:23:53 <mrmoku> will install latest staging on gta02 in a bit and try there
Jan 12 15:24:04 <mrmoku> the second bug at least I can assign to the fso devel team :P
Jan 12 15:24:06 <pespin> yeah it's from last staging ones
Jan 12 15:24:11 <pespin> didn't have it some weeks ago
Jan 12 15:26:12 <pespin> btw, I bought this phone today :) http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-3713.php
Jan 12 15:26:18 <pespin> hope to have it in my hands before a week
Jan 12 15:26:38 <pespin> I've read the bootloader can be unlocked by Sony
Jan 12 15:27:32 <mrmoku> nice
Jan 12 16:13:38 <gnutoo> pespin:so you plan to do the port?
Jan 12 16:14:06 <gnutoo> doens't it have a qualcomm modem?\
Jan 12 16:14:17 * JaMa was thining about Motorola Droid 4, because of keyboard
Jan 12 16:15:01 <gnutoo> I'm not sure addimg more ports is a good idea
Jan 12 16:15:49 <gnutoo> specially if they have low chances of success
Jan 12 16:15:54 <Alex[sp3dev]> gnutoo: hi
Jan 12 16:16:01 <gnutoo> hi
Jan 12 16:16:17 <Alex[sp3dev]> so if got linaro kernel booting on my sgs2
Jan 12 16:16:19 <JaMa> gnutoo: I was thinking about it just as new phone for me, not as offical SHR port..
Jan 12 16:16:22 <Alex[sp3dev]> s/if/I/
Jan 12 16:16:23 <apt> Alex[sp3dev] meant: so I got linaro kernel booting on my sgs2
Jan 12 16:16:24 <gnutoo> ok
Jan 12 16:17:27 <Alex[sp3dev]> there were three problems: lcd timings (the ones from android didn't work), needed to switch FIMD to MDNIE, and if i used 5 uarts in config like android, it won't boot
Jan 12 16:18:09 <Alex[sp3dev]> but now, microsd is not detected. it either is silently ignored or shows error -84. guess sd clock is too high
Jan 12 16:18:59 <Alex[sp3dev]> gnutoo: are any of shr devices using xmm6260? Actually I plan to run Mer on it, if mali400 binaries from st-ericsson work
Jan 12 16:19:28 <gnutoo> what's that?
Jan 12 16:19:55 <Alex[sp3dev]> xmm6260 is a type of modem
Jan 12 16:20:04 <gnutoo> ok
Jan 12 16:20:45 <pespin> gnutoo, I'd like to do the port if I have some time left. And yes, it has a qualcomm chipset
Jan 12 16:20:51 <gnutoo> ok
Jan 12 16:20:52 <pespin> gnutoo, http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8255&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_qsd8255
Jan 12 16:21:04 <gnutoo> i'll look later
Jan 12 16:21:20 <pespin> ok
Jan 12 16:21:34 <pespin> bbl (around 20 min)
Jan 12 16:21:38 <gnutoo> ok
Jan 12 16:21:43 <Alex[sp3dev]> gnutoo: have you tried v4l2 camera on nexus s?
Jan 12 16:21:52 <gnutoo> no won't work
Jan 12 16:21:55 <Alex[sp3dev]> why
Jan 12 16:22:00 <gnutoo> bbl
Jan 12 16:22:02 * angelox|laptop looks at sgs2...791EUR
Jan 12 16:22:04 <Alex[sp3dev]> ok
Jan 12 16:22:05 <gnutoo> need an activator
Jan 12 16:23:41 <gnutoo> something like media controller
Jan 12 16:23:45 <gnutoo> in replicant it works
Jan 12 16:26:13 <Alex[sp3dev]> this regulators thingie is driving me mad. almost all drivers are in mainline but setting it up is pain
Jan 12 16:27:11 <gnutoo> ok
Jan 12 16:31:27 <gnutoo> back
Jan 12 16:32:12 <paulk-desktop> xmm6260 is X-GOLD 626 
Jan 12 16:32:46 <Alex[sp3dev]> yes, it is
Jan 12 16:32:49 <paulk-desktop> it's very similar to nexus s modem
Jan 12 16:32:55 <paulk-desktop> and speaks samsung IPC protocol
Jan 12 16:32:55 <gnutoo> ok nice
Jan 12 16:33:06 <Alex[sp3dev]> i need to get at least usb and microsd working here to play with modem
Jan 12 16:33:20 <gnutoo> also Alex[sp3dev] wondered about the camera of nexus S in GNU/Linux context
Jan 12 16:33:48 <paulk-desktop> gnutoo, I can't tell
Jan 12 16:34:18 <paulk-desktop> but there sure is a "fimc" part that is perhaps not very standard
Jan 12 16:34:43 <paulk-desktop> Alex[sp3dev], are you trying to run gnu/linux on sgs2?
Jan 12 16:34:49 <Alex[sp3dev]> paulk-desktop: exactly
Jan 12 16:34:56 <paulk-desktop> nice
Jan 12 16:34:57 <paulk-desktop> SHR?
Jan 12 16:35:21 <paulk-desktop> anyway if you're not in android context, you'll need libsamsung-ipc for the modem
Jan 12 16:35:55 <Alex[sp3dev]> no, most likely mer. if mali400 binaries work. i'm not extremely fond of blobs, though. but exynos supports drm and has xorg driver so should be fast even without opengl
Jan 12 16:36:01 <gnutoo> maybe try SHR for the modem
Jan 12 16:36:08 <gnutoo> and then port to mer
Jan 12 16:36:19 <Alex[sp3dev]> i know that ofono has support for xmm6260 out of the box
Jan 12 16:36:33 <paulk-desktop> probably for an AT firmware
Jan 12 16:36:55 <Alex[sp3dev]> but samsung may be using some kind of proprietary protocol around it, right?
Jan 12 16:37:04 <gnutoo> maybe it's worth looking the same
Jan 12 16:37:09 <gnutoo> (at ofono source)
Jan 12 16:37:23 <paulk-desktop> Alex[sp3dev], I can tell you for sure
Jan 12 16:37:40 <gnutoo> because maybe the AT part can be activated
Jan 12 16:37:42 <paulk-desktop> if you're going to run with the samsung modem firmware, you won't find any other implementatiob
Jan 12 16:37:58 <paulk-desktop> gnutoo, perhaps with loading another firmware for the modem
Jan 12 16:37:58 <gnutoo> ok
Jan 12 16:38:07 <paulk-desktop> like the iPhone one
Jan 12 16:38:29 <paulk-desktop> but it'll have to communicate the same way
Jan 12 16:38:46 <gnutoo> the palm per for instance has 2 modes
Jan 12 16:38:52 <gnutoo> one for AT and one for msmcomm
Jan 12 16:38:58 <gnutoo> but AT mode is incomplete
Jan 12 16:38:59 <paulk-desktop> interesting
Jan 12 16:39:08 <gnutoo> so they had to use msmcom
Jan 12 16:39:13 <paulk-desktop> we should grep AT strings on the modem firmware
Jan 12 16:40:07 <Alex[sp3dev]> when i fix usb, i'll look into how modem works. the firmware is stored on a separate partition. just need to make sure it is not verified and AP can boot with broken modem firmware
Jan 12 16:41:04 <paulk-desktop> Alex[sp3dev], you have to send the firmware to the modem
Jan 12 16:41:11 <paulk-desktop> btw
Jan 12 16:46:50 <gnutoo> bbl
Jan 12 16:47:27 <Alex[sp3dev]> so it's using hdlc via the ipc https://github.com/arighi/linux-gt-i9100/blob/master/drivers/net/usb/sipc4.c
Jan 12 16:54:34 <mrmoku> pespin_: I can reproduce it with 017
Jan 12 16:54:39 <CIA-77> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r1f2b0aa89b6c 10/ (397 files in 34 dirs): system upgrade
Jan 12 16:54:42 <mrmoku> pespin_: will dig into after dinner
Jan 12 17:07:29 <paulk-desktop> Alex[sp3dev], you're lucky, this is quite simple to handle
Jan 12 17:39:03 <pespin_> mrmoku, you can or you can't?
Jan 12 17:40:37 <pespin_> nice, I went now to vodafone shop and I know have the phone :D
Jan 12 18:55:16 <nschle85-jenkins> Project shr-core-nokia900-feed build #5: SUCCESS in 7 min 44 sec: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-nokia900-feed/5/
Jan 12 19:03:50 <mrmoku> pespin_: I *can* reproduce it
Jan 12 19:04:10 <mrmoku> though on first boot I saw it a moment before our wizard started up
Jan 12 19:04:12 <mrmoku> and it had text
Jan 12 19:04:22 <mrmoku> on reboot no text - just an empty dialog :/
Jan 12 19:04:31 <mrmoku> JaMa|Off: 017 was without any EFL bump, right?
Jan 12 19:07:53 <pespin_> mrmoku, I think it was already there in 016
Jan 12 19:11:24 <mrmoku> pespin_: no EFL bump either
Jan 12 19:12:45 <mrmoku> ahh
Jan 12 19:13:54 <nschle85-jenkins> Project shr-core-om-gta02-feed build #6: SUCCESS in 5 min 22 sec: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-om-gta02-feed/6/
Jan 12 19:43:50 <einstein_> whats the best way to bring an hello world qml programm running on aurora?
Jan 12 19:46:46 <GNUtoo> einstein_, ask angelox|laptop or morphis
Jan 12 19:46:54 <angelox|laptop> hi einstein_ 
Jan 12 19:46:56 <GNUtoo> morphis seem not to be there right now
Jan 12 19:46:59 <GNUtoo> but angelox|laptop is
Jan 12 19:47:42 <einstein_> thanks GNUtoo
Jan 12 19:48:22 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: are you starting from scratch?
Jan 12 19:49:07 <einstein_> yes
Jan 12 19:50:01 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: ok. This may help to take a basic helloworld in Aurora: http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Aurora/WritingAnApp
Jan 12 19:50:26 <einstein_> i found this page
Jan 12 19:50:27 <angelox|laptop> although the doc isn't finished yet, should give you some help. 
Jan 12 19:51:08 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: and it does not work to you?
Jan 12 19:51:45 <einstein_> the problem is, i don't have experience in writing something for the om
Jan 12 19:52:29 <einstein_> where i can get Aurora.Components 1.0?
Jan 12 19:52:53 <angelox|laptop> it is installed in the image
Jan 12 19:53:20 <einstein_> so first i have to build the image with bitbake?
Jan 12 19:53:36 <angelox|laptop> yes
Jan 12 19:53:45 <einstein_> oh
Jan 12 19:53:56 <einstein_> ok
Jan 12 19:54:00 <angelox|laptop> or you can download one from here: http://build.shr-project.org/
Jan 12 19:55:48 <angelox|laptop> aurora is based in Qt Quick, you should take a look on it to code for Aurora
Jan 12 19:56:13 <einstein_> yes this i understand
Jan 12 19:57:19 <nschle85> einstein_: if you decide to build an image i can support you :-)
Jan 12 19:57:33 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: take a look at "http://qt.nokia.com/learning/online/training/materials/qt-quick-for-designers/" 
Jan 12 19:59:11 <einstein_> nschle85: thanks, but i think i'm year away from build an image
Jan 12 19:59:56 <einstein_> angelox: i take a look on the qt materials
Jan 12 20:00:03 <nschle85> its very easy , a also managed it :-)
Jan 12 20:00:17 <nschle85> s/a/i
Jan 12 20:06:10 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: so are you going to use a pre-built image ?
Jan 12 20:10:58 <einstein_> good question
Jan 12 20:12:35 <nschle85> angelox|laptop: should einstein_ try first to compile aurora itself on its host and then learn how to expand it ? 
Jan 12 20:13:02 <nschle85> angelox|laptop: i do not mean the image i mean the aurora itself
Jan 12 20:15:47 <angelox|laptop> nschle85: you mean with or without OE?
Jan 12 20:15:56 <einstein_> whats better to make the first steps?
Jan 12 20:16:19 <nschle85> angelox|laptop: without oe, simply clone the aurora git repo and compile
Jan 12 20:16:44 <nschle85> angelox|laptop: one problem may be the qt version, 4.8 is needed right ?
Jan 12 20:16:50 <angelox|laptop> nschle85: that would need a lot of tools, including Qt, FSO framework..
Jan 12 20:16:59 <angelox|laptop> nschle85: 4.7 is good enough
Jan 12 20:17:07 <nschle85> ups fso also needed ?
Jan 12 20:17:11 <angelox|laptop> yep
Jan 12 20:18:14 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: if you want to learn more about OE, you should try compile by yourself an Image; If you want to learn more about Aurora,you should take a pre-built image to start codding fast
Jan 12 20:18:47 <mrmoku> pespin_: hmm... I can't reproduce on gta04 when manually triggering the dialog via dbus
Jan 12 20:19:22 <einstein_> first i want to start coding fast, if i can handle the codding, i think about built an image...
Jan 12 20:19:55 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: so you take a image from build.shr-project.org
Jan 12 20:20:01 <einstein_> done
Jan 12 20:20:26 <angelox|laptop> then you boot in your device and ssh into it ( helps on development)
Jan 12 20:20:34 <einstein_> ok
Jan 12 20:23:40 <einstein_> this takes a second, first i have to flash the aurora image
Jan 12 20:24:04 <angelox|laptop> einstein_: ok
Jan 12 20:25:47 <einstein_> the device is booting
Jan 12 20:31:55 <einstein_> ssh with root?
Jan 12 20:32:10 <angelox|laptop> yep
Jan 12 20:32:39 <einstein_> i get an time out :/
Jan 12 20:33:22 <angelox|laptop> this may help you: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
Jan 12 20:33:23 <einstein_> device was in suspend
Jan 12 20:33:28 <angelox|laptop> or GNUtoo :)
Jan 12 20:33:36 <einstein_> now it runs
Jan 12 20:33:45 <angelox|laptop> ah ok
Jan 12 20:34:01 <angelox|laptop> what do you get on the screen? some kind of launcher?
Jan 12 20:34:33 <einstein_> an icon would be nice
Jan 12 20:34:53 <angelox|laptop> ok. 
Jan 12 20:35:11 <angelox|laptop> let me give you steps for the helloworld
Jan 12 20:35:25 <einstein_> thank you very much
Jan 12 20:36:13 <angelox|laptop> 1. Create a directory with your app's name in /usr/local/share/aurora/applications/ (Note: i don't know if it is in /usr/local or just /usr)
Jan 12 20:37:20 <angelox|laptop> e.g.: mkdir /usr/local/share/aurora/applications/myapp
Jan 12 20:37:33 <angelox|laptop> 2. Create a info file with the name of your application there
Jan 12 20:38:07 <angelox|laptop> e.g.: touch /usr/local/share/aurora/applications/myapp/myapp.info
Jan 12 20:39:10 <angelox|laptop> 3. edit that file with the following text for example: http://pastebin.com/wAXm4G4J
Jan 12 20:39:45 <angelox|laptop> 4. Put your icon into /usr/local/share/aurora/themes/default/icons/apps/YOURAPPFOLDER
Jan 12 20:41:14 <angelox|laptop> 5. Create an main.qml file in the directory of your application
Jan 12 20:41:21 <angelox|laptop> e.g file: http://pastebin.com/gzR64EXT
Jan 12 20:42:16 <angelox|laptop> 6. Create the main application qml file with the name from main.qml (in this example, FirstApp should be FirstApp.qml)
Jan 12 20:43:28 <angelox|laptop> 7. fill it up with your code
Jan 12 20:43:31 <angelox|laptop> e.g. http://pastebin.com/4EpeRykL
Jan 12 20:43:49 <angelox|laptop> 8. Then you should see your application icon in the launcher and use it :)
Jan 12 20:45:12 <angelox|laptop> Sorry for flood :P
Jan 12 20:47:05 <einstein_> realy nice
Jan 12 20:48:14 <einstein_> thanks a lot for your help
Jan 12 20:48:37 <einstein_> i will try this step by step
Jan 12 20:48:43 <angelox|laptop> no problems
Jan 12 20:48:55 <angelox|laptop> ok, tell me if that works and if you got any issue
Jan 12 20:49:41 <einstein_> ok tell you all my problems
Jan 12 20:50:01 <einstein_> aurora problems ;)
Jan 12 20:50:12 <angelox|laptop> ;)
Jan 12 20:50:43 <einstein_> now i got an play a little
Jan 12 20:50:46 <einstein_> see you
Jan 12 20:50:59 <angelox|laptop> ok. see ya
Jan 12 21:00:21 <nschle85> rah: ping
Jan 12 21:05:26 <rah> nschle85: pong
Jan 12 21:07:13 <nschle85> rah: i know its the wrong channel but is the angstrom panda build compatible with panda es ?
Jan 12 21:08:13 <rah> nschle85: asking the wrong person I'm afraid; I know nothing of angstrom or "panda"
Jan 12 21:08:24 <rah> nschle85: perhaps you're confusing me with someone else?
Jan 12 21:11:30 <nschle85> hmm thought you have a pandaboard, sorry
Jan 12 21:28:11 <rah> sorry, no
Jan 12 21:40:30 <JaMa|Off> mrmoku: no it's only in 018
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