**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 10 02:59:57 2012 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 10 07:28:11 2012 Feb 10 07:45:52 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r7b5a417cc466 10/ (322 files in 313 dirs): Build 201202100339 of shr 20120210 for machine om-gta04 on shr-chroot Feb 10 07:53:51 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r455762bcb3b5 10/ (199 files in 22 dirs): system upgrade Feb 10 08:14:48 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r4567f3662c43 10/packages/ (29 files in 29 dirs): Build 201202100901 of shr 20120210 for machine om-gta02 on shr-chroot Feb 10 08:27:12 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r82c2ff06eb3e 10/packages/ (22 files in 22 dirs): Build 201202100916 of shr 20120210 for machine nokia900 on shr-chroot Feb 10 08:36:28 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r8da487928e88 10/packages/palmpre-oe-linux-gnueabi/frameworkd/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Build 201202100927 of shr 20120210 for machine palmpre on shr-chroot Feb 10 08:45:37 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rb4746480325f 10/packages/palmpre2-oe-linux-gnueabi/frameworkd/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Build 201202100937 of shr 20120210 for machine palmpre2 on shr-chroot Feb 10 08:45:48 mrmoku: ? Feb 10 08:57:30 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r2b833a1bebe6 10/packages/crespo-oe-linux-gnueabi/frameworkd/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Build 201202100945 of shr 20120210 for machine crespo on shr-chroot Feb 10 09:13:03 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rf25ef208e763 10/packages/om_gta04-oe-linux-gnueabi/frameworkd/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Build 201202100958 of shr 20120210 for machine om-gta04 on shr-chroot Feb 10 09:20:49 SHR: 03GNUtoo 07meta-smartphone * r57cdaec60920 10/meta-openmoko/recipes-kernel/linux/ (linux-gta04/defconfig linux-gta04_git.bb): meta-openmoko: linux-gta04: add support for ubifs and jffs2 Feb 10 09:21:31 how to get more info about socket when netstat shows just "unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 5871" ? Feb 10 09:21:47 JaMa, strace? Feb 10 09:21:55 enlightenment is reading this socket very fast and fails with EAGAIN Feb 10 09:22:49 I've found it when stracing enlightenment.. but I don't know for what this socket is used.. Feb 10 09:22:52 recv(8, "\1\2\300r\0\0\0\0\3\0`\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 4096, MSG_WAITALL) = 32 Feb 10 09:22:56 recv(8, 0x118c3c, 4096, MSG_WAITALL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) Feb 10 09:23:26 and I don't have strace log from beginnig to see where it was opened Feb 10 09:42:47 in qtmoko is there wireless scanning available . i checked the internet seeting but nothing. Feb 10 09:46:06 JaMa: ls -l /proc/$pid/fd/8? Feb 10 09:46:29 JaMa: ah, didn't read full log Feb 10 09:46:37 JaMa: systemtap can show you the peer of the unix socket Feb 10 09:46:48 I added this patch myself and am very proud of it :-) Feb 10 09:47:02 it's part of 1.7 that was released last week Feb 10 09:47:27 lindi-: that's where I've found socket number :) Feb 10 09:47:41 ok will check systemtap Feb 10 09:50:34 JaMa, we have a system tap tutorial with oe-core? Feb 10 09:51:06 tutorial? Feb 10 09:51:21 we have recipes Feb 10 09:51:25 ok Feb 10 09:52:11 for instance for doing system tap on kernel stuff Feb 10 09:52:20 what compiles the module? Feb 10 09:52:32 the workstation/laptop Feb 10 09:52:35 or the target? Feb 10 09:53:33 * JaMa never used systemtap Feb 10 09:53:48 GNUtoo: you can use compile server on remote machine Feb 10 09:54:19 ok Feb 10 09:54:21 I've used systemtap for two years now, with xen, embedded x86 stuff and openmoko Feb 10 14:44:11 Project shr-core-om-gta02-shr-image build #87: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-om-gta02-shr-image/87/ Feb 10 14:50:57 Project shr-core-om-gta02-feed build #28: SUCCESS in 6 min 45 sec: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-om-gta02-feed/28/ Feb 10 15:00:58 Project shr-core-om-gta02-aurora-image build #25: SUCCESS in 10 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-om-gta02-aurora-image/25/ Feb 10 15:16:19 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * ref0a519a6780 10/ (258 files in 22 dirs): system upgrade Feb 10 15:29:37 Project shr-core-nokia900-shr-image build #64: SUCCESS in 28 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-nokia900-shr-image/64/ Feb 10 15:43:11 Project shr-core-nokia900-feed build #22: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-nokia900-feed/22/ Feb 10 16:01:29 Project shr-core-nokia900-aurora-image build #22: SUCCESS in 18 min: http://norman-schleicher.de/jenkins/job/shr-core-nokia900-aurora-image/22/ Feb 10 16:42:44 ANybody here? Feb 10 16:44:23 70+ in my list :) Feb 10 16:44:37 Am I on SHR IRC ? Feb 10 16:44:57 I think so Feb 10 16:45:50 Can you help me a little? Feb 10 16:46:08 http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Devices/PalmPre/InstallGuide#Neededthings1 here Feb 10 16:46:10 this is Feb 10 16:46:42 instruction for installing SHR on palm pre models (I have pre 2) Feb 10 16:46:53 what is the problem? i'm not sure if i can help you,.. Feb 10 16:47:00 before you ask :) Feb 10 16:47:38 I have a problem with java installing on ubuntu 10.4.3 Feb 10 16:47:47 Is it needed Feb 10 16:48:19 ? Feb 10 16:49:22 michpo69: i think it is because the SDK-PDK needs it Feb 10 16:50:05 You know.. Feb 10 16:50:11 I'm now on Windows Feb 10 16:50:54 you need linux to do the installation. i think you should ask about your problem in java in #ubuntu maybe Feb 10 16:50:56 I will change to ubuntu, and we can talk. Installed linux is needed? Live CD is enought? Feb 10 16:52:34 live cd you will need install a lot of stuff, not good for that work Feb 10 16:53:36 GNUtoo: ping Feb 10 16:53:49 okey.. And I have no idea what to chose Feb 10 16:54:09 Ubuntu 10.4.3 or ubuntu 11.10 Feb 10 16:54:18 anyone, does not matters Feb 10 16:54:38 Okey, thanks. See ya Feb 10 16:54:46 np Feb 10 17:01:46 Alex[sp3dev]: can you give me a tip about this? http://pastebin.com/McHKUZNq Feb 10 17:03:45 angelox|laptop: forgot to push the fix. please pull now Feb 10 17:05:04 Alex[sp3dev], thanks! Feb 10 17:05:47 angelox|laptop, pong Feb 10 17:06:03 angelox|laptop: iirc, i have hardcoded the fw path in config. so either download bcm4330 firmware and copy to firmware/brcm or disable it in config Feb 10 17:06:30 GNUtoo: Hi! Can you help me to get usbnet working in a andorid kernel? Feb 10 17:06:37 Alex[sp3dev]: ok, thanks, i'll do it Feb 10 17:07:09 angelox|laptop, yes Feb 10 17:07:13 usually there are 2 ways Feb 10 17:07:19 GNUtoo: btw, I have tried adding getty to ttyGS0 on usb gadget and it worked. So I was able to have shell even with the images where network is broken Feb 10 17:07:37 first way is to modify the kenrel and to make it standard( g_ether) Feb 10 17:07:45 the second way is like morphis did for crespo Feb 10 17:08:08 Alex[sp3dev], what's Gs0? Feb 10 17:08:16 *GS0 Feb 10 17:08:28 ah ok Feb 10 17:08:33 GNUtoo: when you enable usb g_serial, on the PDA, the tty appears as GS0 Feb 10 17:08:34 strange Feb 10 17:08:46 ahh Feb 10 17:08:47 ok Feb 10 17:08:49 sorry my bad Feb 10 17:08:51 GNUtoo, how can i do such stuff? Feb 10 17:09:01 angelox|laptop, look in meta-samsung Feb 10 17:09:43 more precisely in: Feb 10 17:09:53 meta-samsung/recipes-core/initscripts Feb 10 17:10:00 it contains a rndissetup.sh Feb 10 17:10:12 you should check within android Feb 10 17:10:15 if it's compatible with it Feb 10 17:10:29 else adapt it Feb 10 17:10:43 for instance the kernel versions are hardcoded in it Feb 10 17:11:32 ok, thank you Feb 10 17:11:33 GNUtoo: do you think we can somehow get the datasheet for sgs2 sound codec? Feb 10 17:12:47 what vendor? Feb 10 17:12:49 wolfson? Feb 10 17:13:00 if so I think it's worth asking Feb 10 17:13:03 it's yamaha ymu823 (mc1n2). just in case anyone knows of any yamaha chips. it is not strictly necessary but working with a register map table would be easier than figuring out what's going on in the android driver which is unreadable Feb 10 17:13:31 yjr Feb 10 17:13:33 oops Feb 10 17:13:39 then ask yamaha Feb 10 17:14:13 tell them you want to mainline their driver for free Feb 10 17:14:39 JaMa|Off, hi Feb 10 17:14:57 JaMa|Off, what's the different between .jffs2 and .jffs2nosumarry Feb 10 17:15:05 in other words what's a sumarry Feb 10 17:23:32 GNUtoo: somewhat the content of /etc/init.d/rndissetup.h is only e Feb 10 17:23:38 s/e/#!/bin/sh Feb 10 17:23:41 and echo 1 > /sys/class/usb_composite/rndis/enable Feb 10 17:23:59 no that's wrong Feb 10 17:24:11 use lastest version from what I pointed Feb 10 17:24:41 okay Feb 10 17:25:00 and change the line if [ `uname -a | grep 2.6.35` ] ; then to match to my kernel? Feb 10 17:25:17 not yet Feb 10 17:25:31 look with ls what sysfs you have Feb 10 17:25:36 and try to run them manually Feb 10 17:25:42 then it'll kill your adb session Feb 10 17:25:45 re-adb inside Feb 10 17:25:55 and look if you have usb0 Feb 10 17:25:58 or something like that Feb 10 17:26:14 also once you're done document it one of the porting guides on SHR Feb 10 17:26:22 s/SHR/shr wiki/ Feb 10 17:26:29 why/how using adb if i'm booting linux Feb 10 17:26:46 ? Feb 10 17:27:03 don't Feb 10 17:27:08 don't boot GNU/Linux Feb 10 17:27:11 do that under android Feb 10 17:27:14 as I said Feb 10 17:27:20 that will be way easier Feb 10 17:27:24 Can some1 help me Feb 10 17:27:34 Kasim786, palm pre issue? Feb 10 17:27:54 ah no it was another user Feb 10 17:28:03 Kasim786, don't ask to ask and ask directly Feb 10 17:28:20 can i have a link for a android bootloader for samsung gt-b7722 Feb 10 17:28:38 jetdroid sent me to you Feb 10 17:28:45 Kasim786, do you know what is that channel about? Feb 10 17:29:02 we discuss the following topics: Feb 10 17:29:07 * openmoko related stuff Feb 10 17:29:20 *SHR related stuff including porting to some samsung devices Feb 10 17:29:29 *other distros that run on openmoko or gta04 Feb 10 17:29:39 this is what they sent me Feb 10 17:29:41 Please refer to IRC channel #openmoko-cdevel on webchat.freenode.net for further assistance. They would help you out with bootloader. After obtaining bootloader, you may again request help here. Without bootloader we are helpless, as none of us currently has time or has the phone to test the bootloader files. Feb 10 17:29:42 Kasim786, so do you plan to port SHR on your samsung phone? Feb 10 17:29:46 yes Feb 10 17:29:57 ok Feb 10 17:29:57 im new at this Feb 10 17:30:09 what is the phone running? Feb 10 17:30:26 and where did that message come from? Feb 10 17:30:29 another IRC channel? Feb 10 17:30:34 http://www.jetdroid.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1972&p=0&e=0&sid=350f9ebdf1e62b7e102c203f15b9fd4f Feb 10 17:30:38 ahhhh Feb 10 17:31:05 Kasim786, wait a second Feb 10 17:31:12 kk Feb 10 17:31:48 Kasim786, basically the bootloader for your phone is a modified QI Feb 10 17:32:01 QI is the bootloader used for the openmoko freerunner Feb 10 17:32:08 or one of the bootloader rather Feb 10 17:32:15 so you need the modified version Feb 10 17:32:16 GNUtoo: sorry, i didn't get it, i should do it under running Android, or under running SHR using Android/Linux kernel? Feb 10 17:32:30 angelox|laptop, boot android Feb 10 17:32:53 angelox|laptop, there is no adb under GNU/Linux Feb 10 17:32:58 so were do i get a modified version Feb 10 17:33:07 angelox|laptop, so you need to do it under android Feb 10 17:33:26 angelox|laptop, since you will use the same kernel with SHR you need to do it under android Feb 10 17:33:37 angelox|laptop, it's a lot easier under android Feb 10 17:33:49 Kasim786, I've no idea....but....someone of jetdroid came here Feb 10 17:34:03 Kasim786, maybe here Feb 10 17:34:09 http://code.google.com/p/jetdroid/ Feb 10 17:34:16 but I don't know jetdroid at all Feb 10 17:34:30 also note that the modem won't work unless someone figure out how it work Feb 10 17:34:47 they say i have to get the bootloader from u Feb 10 17:35:01 Kasim786, then they're wrong Feb 10 17:35:13 I have nothing to do with jetdroid Feb 10 17:35:22 the only thing that I know is that someone came here Feb 10 17:35:27 and he was from jetdoird Feb 10 17:35:32 *jetdroid Feb 10 17:35:36 did he say anything Feb 10 17:35:44 he was asking help for making the modem work Feb 10 17:35:59 because we made similar modem work Feb 10 17:36:07 (samsung modems) Feb 10 17:36:24 but the main problem is that he was unable to trace the so called "nucleus OS" Feb 10 17:36:40 nucleus is also the OS that is used on freerunner Feb 10 17:36:45 so he didn't have any clue on if it worked or not Feb 10 17:36:55 (to calculate GPS position) Feb 10 17:36:58 lindi-, they're not sure it's nucleus Feb 10 17:37:29 or hmm, was nucleus the GSM part? Feb 10 17:37:32 Kasim786, let me find the person's nickname Feb 10 17:37:34 maybe I don't remember this right Feb 10 17:37:41 lindi-, yes more GSM I think Feb 10 17:37:49 people working at openmoko may know better Feb 10 17:37:54 *who have worked at Feb 10 17:38:04 lindi-, or maybe I'll look Feb 10 17:38:12 lindi-, I've the IRDA serial cable Feb 10 17:38:17 maybe it says the name Feb 10 17:39:18 do u want the specs for the phone it may help Feb 10 17:39:46 help for what? Feb 10 17:40:20 GNUtoo: you can just read the openmoko gsm firmware image Feb 10 17:40:25 GNUtoo: it mentions nucleus I think Feb 10 17:40:30 ok Feb 10 17:41:14 yes, this was nucleus, from mentor (iirc) Feb 10 17:42:13 GNUtoo: Copyright (c) 1993 ATI - Nucleus PLUS - Version 1.0.G1.1 Feb 10 17:42:55 ok Feb 10 17:48:18 GNUtoo: can you give me a full step-by-step help on doing that? Feb 10 17:49:41 angelox|laptop, boot the android phone Feb 10 17:49:49 then ./adb shell Feb 10 17:49:54 then do that: Feb 10 17:50:09 ls /sys/class/usb_composite/rndis/enable Feb 10 17:50:15 ls /sys/class/android_usb/android0/enable Feb 10 17:50:26 and look which ls returns something Feb 10 17:51:19 this one /sys/class/usb_composite/rndis/enable Feb 10 17:51:38 ok Feb 10 17:52:02 what's the result of uname -a? Feb 10 17:52:33 Linux localhost 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 #2 SMP PREEMPT Wed Sep 14 20:49:18 KST 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux Feb 10 17:52:41 then just run the script Feb 10 17:53:03 just ship the script in a rootfs Feb 10 17:53:11 and make shure it get executed Feb 10 17:53:19 it is in init.d Feb 10 17:53:20 a rootfs means GNU/Linux rootfs Feb 10 17:53:24 ok Feb 10 17:53:27 so it should work Feb 10 17:54:07 but...even with that, i can get usb0 in host after plugged the device, when trying to ssh i get: ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host Feb 10 17:54:36 angelox|laptop, did you use an shr-core image? Feb 10 17:54:42 because the IP got changed Feb 10 17:54:43 yep Feb 10 17:54:47 oh Feb 10 17:54:56 ifconfig usb0 192.168.7.1 #on your laptop Feb 10 17:55:08 ssh root@192.168.7.2 #on your laptop Feb 10 17:55:43 huh i didn't know Feb 10 17:55:47 thanks, i'll try Feb 10 17:56:08 angelox|laptop: if you forget here you can look http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki#Usersresources Feb 10 17:58:14 cheers Feb 10 18:00:24 hello, we have not talked for a long time, how are you ? Feb 10 18:03:22 yes, i was without a device :( Feb 10 18:03:30 Fine anyway? what about you? Feb 10 18:03:46 * angelox|laptop thinks that, this is not correct somewhere to talk ;P Feb 10 18:05:36 angelox|laptop: ok meet somewhere else.. Feb 10 18:11:37 why device gets so hot when using GNU/Linux? Feb 10 18:12:51 angelox|laptop, what device is it? Feb 10 18:13:06 angelox|laptop, check with htop Feb 10 18:13:12 also check the cpu frequency Feb 10 18:13:29 ok, but every device i remember gets truly hot Feb 10 18:13:43 really? Feb 10 18:13:54 I never saw that Feb 10 18:14:08 *I never noticed that Feb 10 18:14:10 yes, maybe i'm doing something wrong when booting or sth like Feb 10 18:14:22 GNUtoo: (i know wrong channel) pandaboard also gets hot, so cpu freq is sclaing down :-( Feb 10 18:14:44 freerunner is never hot Feb 10 18:17:23 s/never/not hot right now Feb 10 18:19:23 after booted without touching anything (enlightment welcome window without/ts) it's temp 76 Feb 10 18:19:37 1.2GHz Feb 10 18:19:38 because enlightenment uses 100% CPU maybe Feb 10 18:19:48 JaMa|Off, remarked that Feb 10 18:20:08 on very recent images enlightement oom or something like that Feb 10 18:20:12 I don't remember Feb 10 18:20:36 htop says 99% CPU is going to fsogsmd Feb 10 18:20:50 ok Feb 10 18:20:57 that's because it doesn't work out of the box Feb 10 18:20:59 I'm back Feb 10 18:21:04 so I guess fsogsmd keeps retrying Feb 10 18:21:07 angelox|laptop: so you're using my kernel or stock? Feb 10 18:21:14 Alex[sp3dev], right now your one Feb 10 18:21:15 michpo69, ok you had an issue with palmpre? Feb 10 18:21:46 Yes, I've just installed ubuntu 11.10, but it has 3.0 kernel Feb 10 18:21:47 angelox|laptop: btw, it's on performance governor by default. i am not sure voltage regulators are correctly set, so cpufreq is unstable Feb 10 18:22:22 michpo69, I don't understand the relation between palmpre and ubuntu+3.0 kenrel Feb 10 18:22:30 angelox|laptop: note my kernel does not have modem tty, sound and suspend does not work. i'll look into it on the weekend Feb 10 18:23:13 Heh, Now I'm talking about installation. 3.0 may not support all things Feb 10 18:23:40 And this is not GNOME I think.. Feb 10 18:23:40 Alex[sp3dev], no problems, right now i just needed a kernel to work aurora into a real device, so i will not mind (at least for now) for that :) Feb 10 18:24:02 michpo69, 3.0 on palmpre? Feb 10 18:24:12 I think it's 2.6.24 not 3.0 Feb 10 18:24:30 No. 3.0 on PC Feb 10 18:24:38 ok Feb 10 18:24:49 Do you know how to check 64bit or 32bit ? Feb 10 18:24:54 michpo69, what was your palmpre question? Feb 10 18:24:58 GNUtoo, you were right, killed fsogsmd and temp got down to 55 Feb 10 18:24:59 I don'r remember Feb 10 18:25:04 michpo69, uname -a Feb 10 18:25:33 Linux root01 3.0.0-15-generic-pae #26-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 20 17:07:31 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux Feb 10 18:25:50 I guess 32 Feb 10 18:25:53 michpo69, ah the java problem Feb 10 18:25:56 yes Feb 10 18:26:04 install icedtea Feb 10 18:28:22 okey Feb 10 18:29:10 Done Feb 10 18:29:32 I've a palmpre but I don't know the Makefile Feb 10 18:29:55 I never used the Makefile, someone did it for me Feb 10 18:30:05 then after I used normal tar Feb 10 18:30:28 Oh.. I have a problem with makefile too Feb 10 18:30:56 target size for palm pre 2 15.5G is 15,5gb for SHR or WebOS? Feb 10 18:31:19 no idea Feb 10 18:31:22 read the Makefile Feb 10 18:31:34 morphis knows but he's not there right now Feb 10 18:31:59 also if you succeed to boot it tell me if touchscreen work (I've a broken touchscreen and coun't test) Feb 10 18:32:19 Yea... I'm 15 years old and I don't know English well.. Feb 10 18:32:28 ok Feb 10 18:32:44 I even understand words, but still I can't say. WebOS or SHR Feb 10 18:32:57 I don't know Feb 10 18:33:02 :D Feb 10 18:33:11 look at the Makefile Feb 10 18:33:17 gedit Makefile Feb 10 18:33:21 and look what it says Feb 10 18:34:20 I can send you Feb 10 18:34:36 ? Feb 10 18:35:56 what's the variable you don't understnad? Feb 10 18:35:58 That piece of makefile :D Feb 10 18:36:12 you talked about a variable Feb 10 18:36:20 like target size Feb 10 18:36:43 # Define the size you want to let on your media partition of WebOS: 00.5G < X < 07.5G (15.5G for a pre2) # It NEEDS to be formated as XX.XG # The remaining space will be used for SHR CONFIG_WEBOS_MEDIA_TARGET_SIZE = 05.5G Feb 10 18:36:44 You have then to modify only two things in the Makefile : TARGET and CONFIG_WEBOS_MEDIA_TARGET_SIZE as explained at the top of the Makefile Feb 10 18:37:00 I've just send it Feb 10 18:37:00 then it's the media partition Feb 10 18:37:11 Soo Webos Feb 10 18:37:12 I guess it's for puting the medias like your audio/video files Feb 10 18:37:14 yes Feb 10 18:37:23 let me boot my pre Feb 10 18:37:27 Thanks. Feb 10 18:37:57 According to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java I know nothing about installing Java. Feb 10 18:38:20 @novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static -- lvresize -f -L $(CONFIG_WEBOS_MEDIA_TARGET_SIZE) /dev/mapper/store-media Feb 10 18:38:30 that's what it does Feb 10 18:38:37 basically it resize the media partition Feb 10 18:38:41 to a smaller size Feb 10 18:38:54 so I guess there are 3 partitions at least Feb 10 18:39:01 store-fso: that's where you have SHR Feb 10 18:39:26 store-media: that's where you store your medias like audio files and video files, like your mp3 for instance Feb 10 18:39:33 store-fso so this target size is for webos or SHR. I'm confused Feb 10 18:39:48 for webos Feb 10 18:39:50 it's simple Feb 10 18:39:59 the remaining space is used for SHR Feb 10 18:40:13 Aha, very thank you :D Feb 10 18:40:21 basically you only decide how much space you want to keep for webos Feb 10 18:40:54 Aha, now I understand Feb 10 18:41:13 ok Feb 10 18:41:19 also note 2 things: Feb 10 18:41:20 Java.com is giving me installing package, but it's in .bin Feb 10 18:41:29 okey Feb 10 18:41:52 1)SHR requires very basic knowledge of the command line: you need to be able to run that: Feb 10 18:41:54 opkg update Feb 10 18:42:01 opkg install the_package_you_want Feb 10 18:42:13 all the rest can be graphical Feb 10 18:42:38 2)I'm not sure of the current status of SHR on the palm-pre, I've broken touchscreen..... Feb 10 18:42:50 so I can ssh inside Feb 10 18:42:52 I know something about linux Feb 10 18:42:57 ok Feb 10 18:43:17 I'm using linux sometinems. I use it on my Jornada 690 Feb 10 18:43:23 wow nice Feb 10 18:43:26 jlime? Feb 10 18:43:30 yea Feb 10 18:43:47 In 4 days I'll maybe get 720... My dream... Feb 10 18:43:49 does your battery still work? Feb 10 18:44:10 because theses devices are so old that you usually get dead batteries Feb 10 18:44:15 but they are also so nice Feb 10 18:44:16 Thats intresting, because battery is orginal, and it can work 5 hours! Feb 10 18:44:21 wow Feb 10 18:44:35 :D Feb 10 18:44:45 You have normal pre ? Feb 10 18:44:54 yes Feb 10 18:45:01 the screen works but not the touch part Feb 10 18:45:18 I have pre 2 and I do't know what to think, because I can't have android etc... Feb 10 18:45:49 * GNUtoo prefers SHR than android Feb 10 18:46:36 I have HP pre 2 unlocked 2.2.4 Feb 10 18:46:55 And I'm still working with JAVA Feb 10 18:47:10 ok Feb 10 18:47:17 you mean that you know java? Feb 10 18:47:30 No, I mean I can't install java :D Feb 10 18:47:35 ok Feb 10 18:47:52 I don't even know C ++, but in 6months I start learning Feb 10 18:48:01 ok Feb 10 18:48:06 I don't know C++ either Feb 10 18:48:38 using java is not a sin but a penance Feb 10 18:48:44 lol Feb 10 18:49:05 Alex[sp3dev], do you know that java can run on your phone if you would want it Feb 10 18:49:08 there is a meta-java Feb 10 18:49:38 there is java for SHR or WebOS ? Feb 10 18:49:40 GNUtoo: no i do not want that crap on my phone. i'm sick of java in both at university and at my job Feb 10 18:50:10 lol ok Feb 10 18:50:20 i just want native X11 on my phone ;) Feb 10 18:50:28 yes that sounds better Feb 10 18:50:55 michpo69, I think it's for running webos doctor Feb 10 18:51:00 or something like that Feb 10 18:51:06 so you can reinstall webos Feb 10 18:51:09 or something like that Feb 10 18:51:23 I've reinstalled my webos 3 times... Feb 10 18:51:40 ok Feb 10 18:51:59 I never reinstalled it so I don't know how it work Feb 10 18:52:10 I just got a pre with a broken touchscreen to work on SHR Feb 10 18:52:16 Okey. I need java, but I can't install it. Come on! Ubuntu is (I think) the most popular linux! That can't be that hard! Feb 10 18:52:22 and I unbroke booting Feb 10 18:52:34 michpo69, aptitude search icedtea6 Feb 10 18:52:46 I've installed Feb 10 18:52:52 michpo69: which kind of problems are you having? Feb 10 18:53:04 ok osmocombb doesn't compile anymore Feb 10 18:53:08 =>next thing todo Feb 10 18:53:20 maybe om-gta02 kernel Feb 10 18:53:44 sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre is not working Feb 10 18:53:58 michpo69, try icedtea6 Feb 10 18:53:59 And I don't know how to do this manually way Feb 10 18:54:05 neither do I Feb 10 18:54:07 michpo69: use openjdk-6-jre Feb 10 18:54:12 ok Feb 10 18:54:36 ah indeed Feb 10 18:54:39 thanks Alex[sp3dev] Feb 10 18:54:42 sudo update-alternatives --config java Feb 10 18:54:46 No Feb 10 18:54:48 Wrong Feb 10 18:54:56 GNUtoo: what is the machine name for Samsung Galaxy S2 to build shr image ? Feb 10 18:55:01 I didn't copied what I wanted Feb 10 18:55:03 nschle85, none Feb 10 18:55:16 nschle85, it doesn't exist yet Feb 10 18:55:25 nschle85, ask angelox|laptop to add one Feb 10 18:55:36 I mean open jdk is the newer wersion Feb 10 18:56:23 what next? Feb 10 18:56:25 GNUtoo: what do we need for sgs2? which plugins do we need to implement for working wifi/bt/gyro? Feb 10 18:56:40 michpo69: official sun jdk is no longer supported in ubuntu Feb 10 18:56:42 michpo69: so, have you installed openjdk and uninstalled sun? Feb 10 18:57:12 btw, for java7 openjdk is the official distro Feb 10 18:57:16 Alex[sp3dev], you mean fsodeviced plugins Feb 10 18:57:21 GNUtoo: yes Feb 10 18:57:30 ok it's easy Feb 10 18:57:37 although some things like android are notorious for not working with java7 Feb 10 18:57:42 I think I didn't uninstalled anythink. I've only ilnstalled Feb 10 18:57:43 just look at how it's done for other devices Feb 10 18:57:57 what's your kenrel interfaces? Feb 10 18:57:59 rfkill? Feb 10 18:58:00 ifconfig? Feb 10 18:58:03 both? Feb 10 18:58:14 I've no idea Feb 10 18:58:24 GNUtoo: for bt, rfkill, for wifi - ifconfig for now Feb 10 18:58:31 michpo69: i did not follow here but you may have a problem installing java Feb 10 18:58:36 in ubuntu Feb 10 18:58:36 hmmm Feb 10 18:58:48 that start to become out of control Feb 10 18:58:55 hmmm Feb 10 18:59:02 try adding both Feb 10 18:59:06 and see if it work Feb 10 18:59:13 just add both in Feb 10 18:59:14 michpo69: may i help you ? Feb 10 18:59:32 I know only, I have installed it someway on my ubuntu 10.4 but I've no idea how. It was automatic way Feb 10 18:59:34 GNUtoo: bt rfkill is named "bcm4330-bt" and the tty is /dev/ttySAC0 Feb 10 18:59:36 /etc/freesmartphone/conf/$(your machine in cat /proc/cpuinfo/)/fsodeviced Feb 10 18:59:49 Of course you can help me :D Feb 10 18:59:49 ah ok Feb 10 18:59:51 then do that: Feb 10 18:59:53 GNUtoo: what do I need to clone and where to push? Feb 10 18:59:57 add only ifconfig Feb 10 19:00:10 and for the rfkill fork the rfkill plugin in quirks_yourmachine Feb 10 19:00:15 Alex[sp3dev], cornucopia Feb 10 19:00:20 and send a patch Feb 10 19:00:26 we can give you commit access Feb 10 19:00:37 but I can't (I've no access to that machine) Feb 10 19:00:57 Sorry, I don't undersand... Feb 10 19:01:04 which ubuntu do you have and which java version do you need ? Feb 10 19:01:07 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git Feb 10 19:01:25 GNUtoo: ok, I will add it now and make a format-patch Feb 10 19:01:36 ok Feb 10 19:01:38 Ubuntu 11.10 with third kernel and I need Java 6 I think Feb 10 19:01:39 note that's it's in vala Feb 10 19:01:54 so you need oe to cross-compile it Feb 10 19:02:00 a devshell is available here: Feb 10 19:02:32 michpo69: why do you need java ? Feb 10 19:02:39 What I have to cross compil? or you're not talking to me Feb 10 19:02:40 git://github.com/morphis/meta-staging.git Feb 10 19:02:51 michpo69, I'm not talking to you Feb 10 19:02:57 I'm talking to Alex[sp3dev] Feb 10 19:03:03 nschle85 I need JAVA for SHR install, because it needs to use webos doctor Feb 10 19:03:14 Aha Feb 10 19:03:23 Thats better Feb 10 19:03:46 GNUtoo: it's 11PM now, so I won't be able to set it up today, but tomorrow. I will try to make patches, but if I make mistakes in vala, don't kill me Feb 10 19:04:03 Alex[sp3dev], ok np, I'm not good in vala either Feb 10 19:04:12 Alex[sp3dev], there is a vala channel btw Feb 10 19:04:18 I think it's on GIMPnet Feb 10 19:04:20 vala was like C# when I last tried it Feb 10 19:04:28 yes it's still Feb 10 19:04:39 it's a nice language until you step on a compiler bug Feb 10 19:04:44 indeed Feb 10 19:05:02 michpo69: ok, sun jre is not supported, you have to use openjdk Feb 10 19:05:19 lindi-, hi Feb 10 19:05:20 michpo69: one moment please Feb 10 19:05:33 It works as like Java? Feb 10 19:05:38 GNUtoo: hi Feb 10 19:05:56 lindi-, what's the status of your kenrel patches against the 2.6.39 for om-gta02? Feb 10 19:06:00 *kernel Feb 10 19:06:02 If it works like java, I have just to wait and I'll se Feb 10 19:06:18 michpo69, it is java, they just renamed it Feb 10 19:06:25 aha Feb 10 19:06:30 GIve me a second Feb 10 19:06:31 GNUtoo: no time to debug the "got-stuck-processing-an-interrupt" bug Feb 10 19:06:43 GNUtoo: right now anyway Feb 10 19:06:55 michpo69: please try 'java -version' Feb 10 19:07:11 lindi-, is there a openmoko wiki page to track your work? Feb 10 19:07:15 and to help Feb 10 19:07:30 because maybe I should fix 39 instead of trying 3.2 + mainline Feb 10 19:07:50 Heh, I started installation process. If it will work, Than I don't have to worry. If it won't work... ;/ Feb 10 19:08:04 GNUtoo: the posting to openmoko-kernel@ documents the debugging tools Feb 10 19:08:13 ah I'm not suscribed Feb 10 19:08:15 I should Feb 10 19:08:19 yes you should Feb 10 19:08:55 anyways I'm afraid the interrupt issue requires a lot of low level knowledge Feb 10 19:09:08 ------------------------------------------------------ Feb 10 19:09:11 ==> Step 2/9 : rebooting your device, please wait ... make[1]: *** No rule to make target `downloads/webosdoctorp103ueuna-wr-2.1.0.jar', needed by `build/pre2-p103ueuna-wr-2.1.0'. Stop. make: *** [install-all] Error 2 Feb 10 19:09:15 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Feb 10 19:09:26 michpo69, use a pastebin for bigger pastes Feb 10 19:09:43 michpo69, 2) put your webos doctor jar at the right place Feb 10 19:09:43 ? Feb 10 19:09:59 example of pastebin: http://www.pastie.org/pastes/new Feb 10 19:10:01 It should be in downloads I understand Feb 10 19:10:15 michpo69: please have a look Feb 10 19:10:42 michpo69: it should but is it ? Feb 10 19:11:28 yes it is. But problem might be in the name of octor. I have the newest. maybe it needs older or name it as older Feb 10 19:11:50 lindi-, did you fix the 2 other bugs? (alsa + battery) Feb 10 19:12:13 michpo69: its your decision use older one or rename it in makefile Feb 10 19:12:33 May I rename it on file Feb 10 19:12:45 because makefile is big, and I can't find it Feb 10 19:12:54 lindi-, ah I was already suscribed Feb 10 19:13:01 GNUtoo: for the alsa issue I still use the last patch in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel/Upstreaming Feb 10 19:13:20 ok Feb 10 19:13:21 GNUtoo: and battery issue can be workarounded but haven't looked at how to really fix it Feb 10 19:13:30 michpo69: its the last option :-) Feb 10 19:13:34 webosdoctorp224pre2wr Feb 10 19:13:39 thats orginal name Feb 10 19:13:44 GNUtoo: I need to first get to a state where I have at least workarounds to the bugs so that I can start using 2.6.39 for real Feb 10 19:13:46 I'll keep it here :D Feb 10 19:13:55 ah right I didn't read the end of the bugreport Feb 10 19:14:12 michpo69: copy the file to the new name so you have both :-) Feb 10 19:14:24 lindi-, my problem is that I use 2.6.39 for real and I suffer from the bugs Feb 10 19:14:29 like not beeing reachable Feb 10 19:14:37 GNUtoo: yeah Feb 10 19:14:40 because the phone is in bad suspend state Feb 10 19:14:46 yep Feb 10 19:14:51 OMG.... IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feb 10 19:15:10 michpo69: nice :-) Feb 10 19:15:12 .... Feb 10 19:15:15 It worked Feb 10 19:15:26 michpo69, nice.... Feb 10 19:15:34 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Feb 10 19:15:37 webosdoctorp103ueuna-wr-2.1.0 Feb 10 19:15:38 michpo69: ? worked ? Feb 10 19:15:48 Now it's not working Feb 10 19:16:27 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Feb 10 19:16:28 ==> Step 2/9 : rebooting your device, please wait ... Extract the webos doctor ... Rebooting your device in recovery mode ... Done! Transfer nova installer to device and reboot your device with it ... Wait for device to come back ... ==> Step 3/9 : backuping your device, please wait ... Unmounting partitions ... Unmounting /tmp/var Unmounting /tmp/root Unmounting /tmp/media Unmounting /tmp/boot Unmounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 Feb 10 19:16:32 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feb 10 19:16:43 Step 3/9 Feb 10 19:16:50 There is problem I think Feb 10 19:17:26 michpo69: cannot see any problem Feb 10 19:17:27 Mounting /dev/mapper/store-var /bin/sh: novacom: not found /bin/sh: novacom: not found Mounting /dev/mapper/store-root /bin/sh: novacom: not found /bin/sh: novacom: not found Mounting /dev/mapper/store-media /bin/sh: novacom: not found /bin/sh: novacom: not found make[1]: *** [mount] Error 127 make: *** [install-all] Error 2 Feb 10 19:17:33 This is rest Feb 10 19:17:55 Strange Feb 10 19:18:42 hmm you are missing a program novacom Feb 10 19:19:03 I see... But I have novacom Feb 10 19:19:26 If I wouldn't I could not connect to device Feb 10 19:19:35 Maybe I need older wersion? Feb 10 19:20:08 michpo69: may be :-) Feb 10 19:20:15 I'll try Feb 10 19:20:27 do you know how to uninstall package? Feb 10 19:20:40 yes Feb 10 19:20:49 Alex[sp3dev], is touchscreen working? Feb 10 19:21:01 in ubuntu ? Feb 10 19:21:45 Yes Feb 10 19:21:49 I downloaded Feb 10 19:21:51 palm-novacom_1.0.80_i386.deb Feb 10 19:22:13 And I've installed it using ubuntu software manager or somethink like that Feb 10 19:22:24 software center Feb 10 19:22:28 angelox|laptop: yes Feb 10 19:22:51 michpo69: apt-get --purge remove alm-novacom Feb 10 19:23:02 Alex[sp3dev]: it is not in /dev/input/eventX Feb 10 19:23:04 angelox|laptop: lookup dmesg. occasionally it fails to probe. i don't know why - i'm setting up power like samsung kernel. you know, many things need testing Feb 10 19:23:34 E: Unable to locate package alm-novacom Feb 10 19:24:00 Alex[sp3dev]: yep, i'll check it; thanks Feb 10 19:24:15 then try: apt-get --purge remove alm-novacom_1.0.80 Feb 10 19:24:50 the same story Feb 10 19:24:56 why alm- ? Feb 10 19:25:05 michpo69: apt-get update Feb 10 19:25:11 Done Feb 10 19:25:22 and same result ? Feb 10 19:25:39 dpkg -l | grep novacom Feb 10 19:25:42 yes.. Feb 10 19:26:00 dpkg -l | grep novacom Feb 10 19:26:02 worked Feb 10 19:26:07 I mean Feb 10 19:26:11 is it found ? Feb 10 19:26:12 there was no wrror Feb 10 19:26:15 wrror* Feb 10 19:26:19 error* Feb 10 19:26:26 I think I have to reboot Feb 10 19:26:30 no Feb 10 19:26:42 Can I ? :D Feb 10 19:26:47 i think its not installed Feb 10 19:27:04 Because software manager is not working, so I can't install it Feb 10 19:27:20 what is the output of dpkg-l | grep novacom ? Feb 10 19:27:28 output? Feb 10 19:27:39 what is the result ? Feb 10 19:27:48 nothink Feb 10 19:28:00 I get hungry xD Feb 10 19:28:25 michpo69: so you have novacom not installed Feb 10 19:28:31 thats the problem Feb 10 19:28:33 try Feb 10 19:28:42 install it using apt-get ? Feb 10 19:28:50 or some kind of dpkg ? Feb 10 19:28:58 dpkg -i palm-novacom_1.0.80_i386.deb Feb 10 19:29:03 Okey Feb 10 19:29:06 as root Feb 10 19:31:28 Done Feb 10 19:31:31 I think Feb 10 19:31:57 then became normal user Feb 10 19:31:58 Selecting previously deselected package palm-novacom. (Reading database ... 167307 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking palm-novacom (from .../palm-novacom_1.0.64_i386.deb) ... Setting up palm-novacom (1.0.64) ... stop: Unknown instance: palm-novacomd start/running, process 7045 Feb 10 19:32:25 michpo69:hmm Feb 10 19:33:26 michpo69: you should try to install the image again now... lets see what happens Feb 10 19:34:29 I think it works... lets wait Feb 10 19:34:57 GNUtoo: so what do I need to do to specify /dev/ttySAC0 as bluetooth uart? and do i need to rename kernel rfkill name or any will go and it is detected by type? Feb 10 19:34:59 michpo69: no panic ill wait :-) Feb 10 19:36:56 God bless You! It's still working! Feb 10 19:38:24 It's backuping now. I'm worried. If it makes whole file system backup it's bad. Palm has 16GB memory, and I have only 10GB partition for this linux, 7GB unused Feb 10 19:38:29 Alex[sp3dev], you don't need to change the kenrel Feb 10 19:38:43 Alex[sp3dev], you just need to write an fsodeviced quirk plugin Feb 10 19:38:55 basically do what you would do on a shell but in vala Feb 10 19:39:39 michpo69: i dont believe in God, i believe in power of Linux and its community :-) Feb 10 19:39:48 :D Feb 10 19:40:02 I'll get somethink to eat. I'm really hungry now :D Feb 10 19:40:16 michpo69: but anyway, thank you Feb 10 19:40:49 michpo69: have a nice meal :-() Feb 10 19:41:16 GNUtoo: where do i send the patches for fsodeviced (a basic config without alsa now) and fsousaged (config with disabled suspend due to kernel not ready)? Feb 10 19:41:33 send to smartphone-userland Feb 10 19:43:29 Thanks. I was playing with my cats Feb 10 19:44:33 Now I'm really worried. It's still bacuping. I have reallly low disk spac eleft Feb 10 19:44:47 michpo69: this i cannot sove Feb 10 19:44:54 you should break Feb 10 19:45:13 and free some space Feb 10 19:46:01 10GB for linux is a little low :-) Feb 10 19:46:11 yea... Feb 10 19:46:16 and now... Feb 10 19:46:18 if you want to backup 16 GB :-) Feb 10 19:46:20 ITS ending... Feb 10 19:46:27 It howed me a message Feb 10 19:46:38 ah ok Feb 10 19:46:49 it depend on what kind of GNU/Linux Feb 10 19:47:03 if it's ubuntu it requires several GB Feb 10 19:47:07 like at least 4GB Feb 10 19:47:09 gzip: stdout: No space left on device make[1]: *** [backup] Error 1 make: *** [install-all] Error 2 Feb 10 19:47:22 if it's shr it requires less than 512M Feb 10 19:47:36 GNUtoo: I assume I also must make patches for OE to add the board? Feb 10 19:47:58 GNUtoo: he wanted to backup 16GB on a 10 GB partition :-) Feb 10 19:48:16 Alex[sp3dev], yes in meta-smartphone Feb 10 19:48:18 I didn't know it will bacup my device :D Feb 10 19:48:22 GNUtoo: so he needed a compressed file system :-) Feb 10 19:48:31 nschle85, ah ok ouch Feb 10 19:49:10 Okey, I will delete some data on disk and resize partition Feb 10 19:49:33 GNUtoo: compared to windows 10 GB is very low, a windows installation plus visual studio needs much more time and space to install :-) Feb 10 19:49:59 nschle85, I don't have any windows on any of my computers so I don't know windows Feb 10 19:50:19 GNUtoo: how can you life :-) Feb 10 19:50:20 but 10G is huge Feb 10 19:50:32 ? Feb 10 19:50:37 I just don't need it Feb 10 19:50:52 and I'm kind of hardcore: I've even coreboot on my desktop Feb 10 19:50:59 GNUtoo: but not enough for a windows development environment :-) Feb 10 19:51:01 and I use a gta02 as main phone Feb 10 19:51:39 GNUtoo: i cannot use GTA02 as main phone i have V5 with all its bugs Feb 10 19:51:44 ouch Feb 10 19:53:12 Okey.. I'm confused Feb 10 19:53:29 michpo69: why ? Feb 10 19:54:12 Because I don't really know how to get space Feb 10 19:54:28 I can't resize windows partition Feb 10 19:54:48 michpo69: you can delete it :-) Feb 10 19:54:49 and I can't getspace not resizing windows partition Feb 10 19:55:50 michpo69: how much space do you have left in windows partition ? Feb 10 19:56:39 michpo69: how full is your windows harddisk ? Feb 10 19:57:06 You all are great guys. Thanks for everythink. Specially nschle85 and maybe GNUtoo. Maybe I'll come back, but I have to find this space some way, and I need time. Feb 10 19:57:25 michpo69: stop please Feb 10 19:57:36 ?? Feb 10 19:57:54 michpo69: there is a way to use the free space in the windows partition Feb 10 19:58:20 First is now comletly full, but I can't resize it. Secvond disk has 300gb free but I can't resize it from there Feb 10 19:58:22 so you do not need to repartiotion anything Feb 10 19:58:46 I'm listening Feb 10 19:59:04 you know WUBI ? Feb 10 19:59:41 I heard, but generall no Feb 10 20:00:31 WUBI is a linux installer which creates a big file in windows partition and it can be used in linux Feb 10 20:00:47 i am using it too Feb 10 20:01:30 but i have only drive C: Feb 10 20:01:44 you want to install it on drive D: ? Feb 10 20:02:10 COuld you wait for a second? Feb 10 20:02:25 michpo69: yes Feb 10 20:02:40 michpo69: i can wait longer :-) Feb 10 20:03:23 Oh... Feb 10 20:03:44 michpo69: Oh ??? Feb 10 20:03:59 I didn't unmouted it so I couldn't get space! I think getting mor will be better than wubi Feb 10 20:04:43 GNUtoo: I have sent the cornucopia patches Feb 10 20:04:48 michpo69: it depends... wubi is very nice Feb 10 20:05:08 Alex[sp3dev], ok I'll look Feb 10 20:07:26 Okey... Can I have WUBI on other disc? Feb 10 20:08:00 Somethink is wrong. I delete 50GB, i get 10gb fre... Feb 10 20:08:24 I've deleted it from linux trash Feb 10 20:09:26 ANy way. I have to get to windows to install wubi. So... Good Bye, and see ya Feb 10 20:09:43 Alex[sp3dev], Feb 10 20:09:45 make[3]: Entering directory `/home/gnutoo/embedded/userspace/cornucopia/fsodeviced/conf/i9100' Feb 10 20:09:46 make[3]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. Feb 10 20:10:02 michpo69: you can install a windows irc and come back so we can support you Feb 10 20:10:03 Alex[sp3dev], basically Makefile.am is not the only thing to add Feb 10 20:10:13 you must also mess with configure.ac Feb 10 20:10:16 and maybe more Feb 10 20:10:20 I don't remember off hand Feb 10 20:10:31 but adding config file is not easy Feb 10 20:10:35 same for new plugins Feb 10 20:10:42 michpo69: do you come back ? Feb 10 20:11:53 Alex[sp3dev], send a v2 with a modification to: Feb 10 20:11:55 fsodeviced/configure.ac Feb 10 20:12:03 same for fsousaged Feb 10 20:12:21 Alex[sp3dev], or do you want me to do it for you? Feb 10 20:14:55 Alex[sp3dev], ping me when you're back Feb 10 20:16:21 HI, I'm back :D Feb 10 20:16:31 Now on windows Feb 10 20:17:44 GNUtoo: you could do it, but send the reply then so that other people are also aware Feb 10 20:18:03 ok Feb 10 20:20:54 michpo69: wow that was fast :-) Feb 10 20:21:04 GNUtoo: should i now add conf, fstab and kernel recipe to meta-samsung? Feb 10 20:21:12 faster than you think :P Feb 10 20:21:16 Alex[sp3dev], yes Feb 10 20:21:54 michpo69: as i think or thought ? Feb 10 20:22:15 Both Feb 10 20:22:17 :d Feb 10 20:22:49 ok now you should google for ubuntu and wubu Feb 10 20:22:54 wubi Feb 10 20:23:44 michpo69: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer Feb 10 20:24:20 ubi is not working. I turn it on. it ask me for persmissions, I give it OK and nothing happens Feb 10 20:24:47 What A lie.... Feb 10 20:24:52 A terrible lie! Feb 10 20:25:01 I have 150GB free space Feb 10 20:25:14 I'm gone for 10 minutes, ok? Feb 10 20:25:20 Please! Feb 10 20:25:26 michpo69: ok Feb 10 20:25:32 xD, thanks Feb 10 20:30:49 Alex[sp3dev], my mail has greylisting so I've to wait a long time before getting the new mails, I hope I won't forgett to checkin your patches Feb 10 20:32:24 GNUtoo: ok Feb 10 20:36:12 I'm here only for a minute to say Feb 10 20:36:13 GNUtoo: do you know something about howto cooling the small arm processors ? Feb 10 20:36:38 michpo69: say what ? Feb 10 20:36:43 I resized one of my partitions, and now I have to install ubuntu on it Feb 10 20:37:16 hmm wubi would be the solution with less pain Feb 10 20:37:30 Yes, but wubi is not working Feb 10 20:37:30 nschle85, cpufreq Feb 10 20:37:44 but its your computer and your decision Feb 10 20:37:46 :-) Feb 10 20:37:48 nschle85, how long you stay here Feb 10 20:38:06 i dont know Feb 10 20:38:23 but you can try ubuntu wubi in parallel Feb 10 20:38:29 Because it may take 1/2 hour Feb 10 20:38:42 so a am here every day evening (GMT+1) Feb 10 20:39:00 so we can talk tomorrow Feb 10 20:39:23 Aha. I don't remember my GMT, but I know it's the same as paris :D Feb 10 20:39:28 GNUtoo: and what is the hardware solution ? Feb 10 20:39:55 nschle85, I've no idea about hardware solution, maybe the same than computers: heatsink Feb 10 20:39:59 i am from germany .. so its not so far away :-) Feb 10 20:41:30 GNUtoo: so my omap4460 is very hot and it scales down its frequency Feb 10 20:42:00 nschle85, ouch Feb 10 20:43:03 so buying a 'panda' instead 'panda es' would be the better choice :-) Feb 10 20:43:21 but for me its to late :-) Feb 10 20:47:31 Alex[sp3dev], hi, your comment didn't reach the list: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2012-February/subject.html Feb 10 20:48:55 GNUtoo: i'm viewing it via the web interface and the patches are shown as 'next' messages to my first message (it is displayed at the end of the page, though) Feb 10 20:50:13 yes that's the v1 Feb 10 20:50:19 I'm waiting for v2 Feb 10 20:50:35 GNUtoo: you could do it, but send the reply then so that other people are also aware Feb 10 20:50:54 I didn't understand that properly sorry Feb 10 20:51:06 maybe you should send a v2 Feb 10 20:51:09 it would be better Feb 10 20:51:31 GNUtoo: ok, i'll do it tomorrow then, going to bed soon Feb 10 20:51:39 ok Feb 10 20:51:40 thanks Feb 10 20:55:49 GNUtoo: since long time i wanted to install a new shr image on N900 but busybox tar does not know about --numeric-user do you know which option i have to use ? Feb 10 20:56:20 nschle85, do you have an sd card reader on your computer or that you can connect to your computer? Feb 10 20:57:04 GNUtoo: yes but i do not want to pen my N900 every time to install a new image Feb 10 20:57:14 s/pen/open/ Feb 10 20:57:40 then install coreutils? Feb 10 20:58:06 hmm ill try Feb 10 21:09:52 GNUtoo: tar and coreutils is provided by busybox.. so standard coreutils installatin is not possible Feb 10 21:10:15 hmmm Feb 10 21:10:22 then maybe do an initramfs with coreutils Feb 10 21:11:45 and using busybox tar with --numeric-user option is not possible ? Feb 10 21:13:51 no Feb 10 21:14:11 unless you add the option in busybox by providing a patch to the busybox project Feb 10 21:16:05 I'm back with my new 50GB linux :D Feb 10 21:16:14 nschle85, but you could do that: Feb 10 21:16:20 build an ext3.gz image Feb 10 21:16:29 gunzip it Feb 10 21:16:32 dd it Feb 10 21:16:35 fsck it Feb 10 21:16:41 resize2fs it Feb 10 21:16:46 and fsck it again Feb 10 21:18:51 nschle85. How to install novacom? dpkg -i ??? Feb 10 21:19:44 if you downloaded the deb file, yes dpkg -i package.deb Feb 10 21:19:55 thanks Feb 10 21:19:57 michpo69, yes else you have precom that is free software Feb 10 21:20:07 novacom is proprietary and runs as root Feb 10 21:23:31 I ran apt-get upgrade, and it goes for 5minutes... Feb 10 21:25:42 michpo69: upgrade will update everything, but thats normal Feb 10 21:26:30 buts thats Bill gates said: Linux is bad because it has so much updates :-) Feb 10 21:27:42 Heh :D Feb 10 21:28:37 I don't know is it bad :D Newer software is normally better Feb 10 21:28:48 Weee, END Feb 10 21:31:37 michpo69: did you install ubuntu wubi ? Feb 10 21:31:57 No, But I'm happy Feb 10 21:31:59 :D Feb 10 21:32:46 ok so you installed ubuntu from scratch ? Feb 10 21:35:19 I don't understand "scratch" but I have resized my disk and installed another ubuntu 11.10 on 50GB filesystem and now It's bacuping, but I have space :D Feb 10 21:36:35 michpo69: thats fast.. Feb 10 21:37:04 scratch means from zero from the beginning Feb 10 21:37:43 aha, thanks Feb 10 21:39:30 so i can leave for today ? Feb 10 21:40:29 I don't know :D Feb 10 21:40:59 michpo69: you are backuping... so its a progress :-) Feb 10 21:41:06 If you must.. but I think I will have a problem, but sleep well Feb 10 21:41:32 which problem ? Feb 10 21:42:05 I don't know. But computers never works when they have to :D Feb 10 21:42:40 ah ok :-) but today me made some progress :-) Feb 10 21:43:03 if you have any questions you can write to shr-devel mailing list Feb 10 21:43:34 http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-devel Feb 10 21:44:10 Yea I know Feb 10 21:44:25 so i also get informed by my N900 :-) Feb 10 21:44:34 I:D Feb 10 21:44:39 N900 ? Feb 10 21:44:43 Great phone Feb 10 21:44:52 also running shr Feb 10 21:45:08 I never had one but I like it. You can run webos games, you can run aircrack... Feb 10 21:45:34 i can ? i did not know :-) Feb 10 21:46:07 but the maemo is great all is well integrated... Feb 10 21:46:36 Yeah Feb 10 21:46:37 i love it too , i ahave also an android phone but i dont like it Feb 10 21:46:38 Haha Feb 10 21:46:48 ANdroid? Feb 10 21:46:57 What android and what phone? Feb 10 21:47:19 You can run only some of webos games, I can run all :D Feb 10 21:47:30 android 2.3, Huawei X3 Feb 10 21:48:12 I want android phone, but I think I won't get in in this year... Feb 10 21:48:22 Android market is unbeliveble Feb 10 21:49:13 michpo69: android market is the horror Feb 10 21:49:27 why? Feb 10 21:49:41 There is everythink for android Feb 10 21:50:27 michpo69: and android itself is bad... why ? same Applications are offered very often and its not clear thats it runs on your phone.. Feb 10 21:50:37 there is lots of crap, from what I have seen on my friends phone Feb 10 21:51:00 And I was thinking about nintendo 3ds xD it's unbeliveble PS vita is bad Feb 10 21:51:37 michpo69: so on My N900 skype is running with video, on my android I have only voice Feb 10 21:51:40 Yes, there is everythink good and a lot more crap, viruses etc Feb 10 21:52:17 On my webos I have only vioice xD. because I have only 1 camera. Webos is beautiful Feb 10 21:52:31 michpo69: yes, every app wants rights i dont understand. why most apps want to send sms and want to access my contacts ? Feb 10 21:52:49 heh Feb 10 21:53:22 michpo69: google maps and navigation is great but the rest is like stupid as on iphone Feb 10 21:54:27 I don't like iphone only because there are many apps, but for android it's free. For iOS you must pay. And interface is bad Feb 10 21:54:27 misc: i agree :-) Feb 10 21:55:04 I have my error Feb 10 21:55:17 So now you have to help me :D Feb 10 21:55:30 michpo69: ohh no... Feb 10 21:55:37 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Feb 10 21:55:37 ok give me a shot Feb 10 21:55:41 Step 4/9 : partition layout, please wait ... Unmounting partitions ... Unmounting /tmp/var Unmounting /tmp/root Unmounting /tmp/media Unmounting /tmp/boot Unmounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 Unmounting FSO partition ... Feb 10 21:55:50 Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... Found volume group "store" using metadata type lvm2 8 logical volume(s) in volume group "store" now active Now we are resizing lvm partition to get some space for FSO/SHR ... Insufficient free space: 84 extents needed, but only 3 available Extending logical volume media to 14.50 GB novacom: unexpected EOF from server make[1]: *** [lvm-resize] Error 5 make: *** [i Feb 10 21:55:55 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Feb 10 21:56:58 michpo69: i guess your phone partition is too full Feb 10 21:57:18 so repartition does not work Feb 10 21:57:21 # Define the size you want to let on your media partition of WebOS: 00.5G < X < 07.5G (15.5G for a pre2) # It NEEDS to be formated as XX.XG # The remaining space will be used for SHR CONFIG_WEBOS_MEDIA_TARGET_SIZE = 14.5G Feb 10 21:57:29 This is piece of makefile Feb 10 21:58:06 I wanted 1.5GB for SHR so this is it Feb 10 21:58:29 Change it to 15.5GB or 12.0GB ?????? Feb 10 21:59:44 michpo69: hmm here i have to stop because i dont have the device.. i wanted you to help installing java now i am supporting installation :-) Feb 10 22:00:17 heh :D Feb 10 22:00:32 Okey... I can always experimente Feb 10 22:01:05 thats nice, so i can only guess, because i dont have this device Feb 10 22:01:53 Thanks for everythink! Good Night Feb 10 22:02:35 michpo69: good night, good luck, i think you should tomorrow aske here some one else to support you Feb 10 22:02:51 Thanks Feb 10 22:03:11 michpo69: bye, good night Feb 10 23:37:16 ~botsnack Feb 10 23:37:16 aw, gee, DocScrutinizer **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 11 02:59:57 2012