**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 10 03:00:00 2012 Apr 10 05:09:36 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r30c6c9298f6e 10/libfsotransport/ (configure.ac fsotransport/Makefile.am tests/Makefile.am): libfsotransport: restructure autoconf/automake configuration to be ready for a release Apr 10 05:09:36 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r0c8952130395 10/libfsotransport/Makefile.decl: libfsotransport: disable test execution for distcheck as it fails somehow Apr 10 05:09:37 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r6511104da842 10/libfsoframework/ (configure.ac fsoframework/Makefile.am): libfsoframework: restructure autoconf/automake configuration to be ready for a release Apr 10 05:47:52 Good day all , how to solve this ?http://www.pastie.org/private/pjfpvdfuonkljhwuxmct0g Apr 10 05:51:26 SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r57cbf27a44a5 10/ (208 files in 22 dirs): system upgrade Apr 10 08:50:59 ~seen morphis Apr 10 08:51:07 morphis <~morphis@p5B31E1D4.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 3d 20h 57m 37s ago, saying: 'heyho'. Apr 10 09:04:53 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r9bd2dbe05d4b 10/packages/ (68 files in 68 dirs): packages: Build 201204100912 of shr 20120410 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild Apr 10 09:20:25 is this the right channel to ask shr questions? Apr 10 09:22:22 i've found some time i want to invest into shr development... reading the info on shr-project.org, i wonder if there's a project guideline - some sort of todo list Apr 10 09:55:31 LittleIdiot: yes, lots of tickets here: http://www.shr-project.org/trac/report/1 Apr 10 09:55:50 roadmap: http://www.shr-project.org/trac/roadmap Apr 10 09:56:24 yes, i've seen those ;) Apr 10 09:56:49 what i meant is: is there some guideline saying that "we want to have this and that working with revision number X" Apr 10 10:41:28 LittleIdiot: closest would be the roadmap page I guess Apr 10 10:42:27 LittleIdiot: or talk to GNUtoo when he comes on, he is always looking for more devs Apr 10 10:42:58 ok, i thought so - thank you ;) Apr 10 10:49:19 LittleIdiot: I guess doing testing would be useful too: http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/StagingTests Apr 10 10:53:44 LittleIdiot: which hardware do you have btw? Apr 10 10:54:09 gta02 - two of them ;) Apr 10 10:54:18 cool Apr 10 10:55:03 i've been watching openmoko and all related projects ever since, but never found the time Apr 10 10:59:55 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rb4a474983e42 10/packages/armv7a-vfp-neon-oe-linux-gnueabi/ (57 files in 57 dirs): packages: Build 201204101107 of shr 20120410 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild Apr 10 11:09:04 LittleIdiot: are you using one of your GTA02 as a phone? Apr 10 11:10:57 i used to, but they both need a buzz fix, so i'm currently not using them in "production" mode Apr 10 11:11:26 parts are underway, i plan to use one of them as phone once they've arrived Apr 10 12:15:40 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r07231a1a44aa 10/packages/om_gta04-oe-linux-gnueabi/linux-gta04/ (338 files in 338 dirs): packages: Build 201204101301 of shr 20120410 for machine om-gta04 on opmbuild Apr 10 12:51:17 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r9f474d5af851 10/images/crespo/eglibc/chroot-image/ (build-id image-info.txt installed-package-sizes.txt): images: Build 201204101439 of shr 20120410 for machine crespo on opmbuild Apr 10 14:16:24 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * re85f82449ae7 10/packages/armv7a-vfp-neon-oe-linux-gnueabi/ (10 files in 10 dirs): packages: Build 201204101551 of shr 20120410 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild Apr 10 18:49:41 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rc40af7b0e9e0 10/packages/i686-nativesdk-oesdk-linux/ (257 files in 257 dirs): packages: Build 201204101810 of shr 20120410 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild Apr 10 19:19:26 who can change the stylesheet of shr wiki ? Apr 10 19:19:50 nschle85, nobody afaik ;) Apr 10 19:20:30 thats :-( Apr 10 19:21:35 so i would like to have change the layout of level 1 (=) and level2 (==) headlines Apr 10 19:22:49 nschle85, afaik only bearstech guys have access to it. We should ask for access I guess, I don't know if someone already asked. Apr 10 19:27:32 pespin: are they active in irc ? Apr 10 19:29:00 pespin: or another question: wo are the bearstech guys ? Apr 10 19:30:38 nschle85, no idea :P Apr 10 19:34:21 pespin, they have an own channel #bearstech Apr 10 20:10:11 pespin: JaMa is now wiki admin :-) Apr 10 20:33:49 larsc: ping Apr 10 20:35:30 TAsn: ping Apr 10 20:35:42 larsc: http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/s3c24xx/builds/160/steps/compile_4 - do you feel responsible? Apr 10 21:00:22 GNUtoo: hello, i am back.. how are you ? Apr 10 21:01:13 hi, I'm not fine Apr 10 21:01:31 see shr-devel mailing list (SHR Problems....) Apr 10 21:12:46 GNUtoo: may be most of it was moved to spam Apr 10 21:13:19 ah? by error I suppose Apr 10 21:14:37 http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2012-April/subject.html Apr 10 21:16:05 GNUtoo: sad to hear/read that :/ Apr 10 21:16:27 indeed but it was innevitable Apr 10 21:16:31 it was just a mather of time Apr 10 21:17:25 i said earlier - i've been watching openmoko and related projects for some time now - i finally found some time to invest in developing for it (preferably shr) Apr 10 21:17:26 GNUtoo: ups Apr 10 21:17:47 ok Apr 10 21:17:54 GNUtoo: i have read your statement about leaving shr Apr 10 21:18:00 yes Apr 10 21:18:30 basically the last month has been only frustration....against stuff that was not my area Apr 10 21:18:57 or stuff that is recurrent like alsa but still where I never succedded Apr 10 21:19:38 so i agree, comparring 2 years old openmoko image to shr now its really frustrating Apr 10 21:20:25 or shr-devel was even better than shr-core now Apr 10 21:20:53 yes, there are many reasons for that: Apr 10 21:21:09 * Lacks of devs(most important reason) Apr 10 21:21:14 * oe-core migration Apr 10 21:21:42 hmm, how about setting focus again to just a couple (well documented) devices and basic functionality? devices like the nexus s really aren't well documented... Apr 10 21:23:18 GNUtoo: I agree again Apr 10 21:23:44 LittleIdiot, about that I just found spying in nexus S architecture Apr 10 21:24:21 but I could do some stuff still Apr 10 21:24:25 like gta02 kernel Apr 10 21:24:38 but I see no point in doing stuff I'm not good at Apr 10 21:24:44 GNUtoo: LittleIdiot: the problem is the development process itself. Adding a feature destroys another one Apr 10 21:25:04 because I will hit my head against walls again(idiom) and that's not good Apr 10 21:27:08 I mean it only gives frustration and doens't make the project advance at all(no progress is done that way) Apr 10 21:28:52 GNUtoo: but for today that where enough bad news, so ill test latest image tomorrow. Apr 10 21:29:02 ok Apr 10 21:29:45 is there some todo-list to work on? some clearly structured tasks to develop for? maybe communication among developers is the problem... i don't know really, since i've just read the shr devel list so far (which didn't have many discussions) Apr 10 21:30:43 ok Apr 10 21:30:56 basically my biggest grief is that no developers care Apr 10 21:31:02 they are all away Apr 10 21:31:08 and will come back one day (tm) Apr 10 21:31:36 LittleIdiot: so at the moment you can pick some tasks from the image testing oage: http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/StagingTests Apr 10 21:32:41 i've read the om devel list right from the beginning and have seen many "hey, we've ported $some_distribution to the gta"-emails... i just thought that all this effort would've been better invested into openmoko itself... Apr 10 21:33:25 LittleIdiot: GNUtoo: created a feature table for all devices. So if you can do, implement the missing features Apr 10 21:34:23 LittleIdiot: http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index.php/HardwareComparison Apr 10 21:35:11 it's not totally up to date tough Apr 10 21:35:19 it's just what's supposed to work Apr 10 21:35:29 not what is broken because of a recent bug Apr 10 21:36:45 GNUtoo: i know but so someone needs to trac Staging Tests and your ccomparison page Apr 10 21:37:39 GNUtoo: good night, i am very lazy now... Apr 10 21:38:54 GNUtoo: i hope I ll see you here again ... Apr 10 21:39:10 GNUtoo: bye Apr 10 21:39:14 bye Apr 11 00:47:18 SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r6df6cad1e6fe 10/packages/i686-nativesdk-oesdk-linux/ (7 files in 7 dirs): packages: Build 201204110108 of shr 20120410 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild Apr 11 02:05:44 LittleIdiot: the best way to prevent those "hey, we've ported $some_distribution to the gta" emails is to get all patches upstreamed so the porting only needs doing once **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 11 02:59:58 2012