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Apr 17 04:47:02 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07specs * rb8c9c9f5fa01 10/Makefile.old: Drop old makefile
Apr 17 07:13:35 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07gdbus * r6d7246627a1f 10libfso-glib/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am): Make `make distcheck` working again
Apr 17 09:13:34 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07gdbus * r38d36c12ecb9 10libfso-glib/src/Makefile.am: CLEANFILES are also DISTCLEANFILES
Apr 17 11:27:30 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: mrmoku: what's wrong with N900 power consumption?
Apr 17 11:28:08 <DocScrutinizer> have a look into what TI offers under buzzword SmartReflex
Apr 17 11:28:22 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: hey :)
Apr 17 11:28:28 <DocScrutinizer> suspend NOT recommended for OMAP
Apr 17 11:28:47 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: do you know anybody using n900 with proper upstream software (and not the ancient maemo kernel)?
Apr 17 11:29:08 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: I have no problems with power consumption on n900... I just can't make any statements as I never really measured it
Apr 17 11:29:19 <DocScrutinizer> you'll get awful standby times with suspend, as each wakeup eats much more power than you saved by suspending compared to zerocock
Apr 17 11:30:33 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: yes, there are some 'hackers' in #maemo, e.g. luke-jr is using gentoo IIRC
Apr 17 11:30:50 <DocScrutinizer> he claims he even has semi-working telephony
Apr 17 11:31:22 <DocScrutinizer> you'll love this guy, he's even more a FOSS fanatic than you are ;-D
Apr 17 11:32:01 <PaulFertser> I think i remember him.
Apr 17 11:32:04 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: how's #maemo these days? More calm? Better place to stay? :P
Apr 17 11:32:05 <PaulFertser> He did quite some RE.
Apr 17 11:32:18 <DocScrutinizer> I try my best as chanop
Apr 17 11:32:22 <DocScrutinizer> ;-P
Apr 17 11:32:27 <mrmoku> :P 
Apr 17 11:32:37 <mrmoku> Ok, will think about rejoining then
Apr 17 11:32:58 <DocScrutinizer> we're down from >500 to <300 users
Apr 17 11:33:05 <DocScrutinizer> some trolls lost interest
Apr 17 11:33:15 <mrmoku> good thing
Apr 17 11:33:19 <mrmoku> and 300 is still a lot
Apr 17 11:33:49 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: you wanna /join #mer and ask what they do over there I guess
Apr 17 11:34:04 <DocScrutinizer> AFAIK N900 is not their main target anymore
Apr 17 11:34:17 <DocScrutinizer> yet worth giving it a shot
Apr 17 11:36:13 <pabs3> there is an IRC meeting at 15:00 UTC about maemo btw (on #maemo-meeting)
Apr 17 11:36:37 <DocScrutinizer> on #maemo-ssu we're working to a) keep maemo N900 alive (patches & updates, improvements), and b) quite some RE to move FOSS are ongoing there
Apr 17 11:36:51 <DocScrutinizer> WUT???
Apr 17 11:37:01 <pabs3> http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html
Apr 17 11:37:08 <DocScrutinizer> pabs3: who announced that? where? and why?
Apr 17 11:37:17 <DocScrutinizer> hahaha ML
Apr 17 11:37:34 <pabs3> I saw it in http://www.mwkn.net/2012/16/front.html
Apr 17 11:38:45 <DocScrutinizer> sounds worth giving it a 'rant' ;-P
Apr 17 12:39:09 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: maybe you wanna join #maemo-meeting 15:00 UTC
Apr 17 12:40:02 <DocScrutinizer> might provide a concise overview of some aspects of #maemo community as it is right now
Apr 17 12:43:47 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: ok
Apr 17 18:31:18 <GNUtoo-desktop> radekp, hi
Apr 17 18:31:42 <GNUtoo-desktop> unfortunately qtmoko is not usable on gta04, because of 2 things:
Apr 17 18:31:52 <GNUtoo-desktop> * sound volume during calls
Apr 17 18:32:04 <GNUtoo-desktop> outside it's impossible for me to ear the remote person
Apr 17 18:32:34 <GNUtoo-desktop> * modem issues like it says there is the network but SMS fails to be sent, and once the phone even restarted trough a shell script because of modem issues
Apr 17 19:47:13 <DocScrutinizer> mrmoku: instabigsuck is a #harmattan user, just saying ;-D
Apr 17 19:47:51 <DocScrutinizer> I definitely can't recommend /join #harmattan, it has more of his class
Apr 17 19:48:42 <DocScrutinizer> actually it feels like all the trolls formerly in #maemo now moved on to #harmattan
Apr 17 20:46:16 <Alex[sp3dev]> hum.. bcmdhd driver for bcm4330 in galaxys2 kernel is nice. iwlist scan works, pm works - no need for brcmfmac. even lliwi connected from the first attempt. guess i'll just push my branch with minimum changes to android tree to make gnu/linux booting possible.
Apr 17 20:47:44 <Alex[sp3dev]> the upshot is that i'm sick of trying to get galaxys2 work reasonably on vanilla kernel and cleaning up hacks from android tree and am satisfied with the minimal configuration that just works. time to fix modem.
Apr 17 21:29:49 <mrmoku> DocScrutinizer: hehe, ok :P
Apr 17 22:16:05 <TAsn> mrmoku, germany is rising once again. (football) :)
Apr 17 22:16:11 <TAsn> mrmoku, I cheered for them
Apr 17 22:16:24 <TAsn> mrmoku, and I also said in advance that it's going to be 2-1
Apr 17 23:43:43 <pabs3> DocScrutinizer: what was that crap on #maemo-meeting about IRC logs should be closed?? transparency FTW IMO
Apr 17 23:44:11 * pabs3 sighs in the direction of #maemo-meeting
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Apr 18 00:10:01 <DocScrutinizer> pabs3: instabigsuck is a certified lunatic and paranoid
Apr 18 00:10:16 <pabs3> heh ok
Apr 18 00:10:32 <pabs3> even without that bit, the meeting was disappointing
Apr 18 00:11:07 <DocScrutinizer> he honestly forced me on jabber with a special server before he dared to chat with me about openmode in harmattan OS
Apr 18 00:12:15 <DocScrutinizer> three weeks later he published his inception thing (basically an exploit) though all of the "sane crew" suggested he should wait 
Apr 18 00:13:59 <DocScrutinizer> (disappointing) well yeah, it was way too harmattan centric
Apr 18 00:15:32 <DocScrutinizer> for now I consider #maemo-ssu the 'nicest' of all maemo related chan
Apr 18 00:16:51 <DocScrutinizer> not that many unfocused asshats in there, just a few people that of course sometimes argue but basically just make things move forward
Apr 18 00:39:10 <pabs3> :/
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