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May 29 09:36:34 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r522e4811b79a 10/fsogsmd/ (32 files in 8 dirs): fsogsmd: drop support for palmpre device
May 29 09:36:34 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r12f0f7328bc3 10/fsodeviced/ (11 files in 5 dirs): fsodeviced: drop support for the palmpre device
May 29 09:36:35 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r125b600b55af 10/fsousaged/ (8 files in 6 dirs): fsousaged: drop support for palmpre device
May 29 09:36:35 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r99794322c52e 10/fsoaudiod/ (30 files in 6 dirs): fsoaudiod: drop palm pre device suppport
May 29 09:36:36 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rea4852ac0227 10/libfsotransport/ (5 files in 4 dirs): libfsotransport: drop palm pre device support
May 29 09:36:36 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r1a6029ebad36 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fsoaudiod/fsodeviced: remove some more palmpre device specific things
May 29 09:36:37 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r32a89a97cdbd 10/ (88 files in 31 dirs): Merge branch 'morphis/remove-palm-support'
May 29 10:34:41 <morphis> heyho
May 29 10:34:51 <morphis> JaMa|Off: you read my mail about palmpe support in SHR?
May 29 10:35:19 <JaMa|Off> yup and I agree
May 29 10:35:32 <JaMa|Off> did you read my mail about mdbus(2)? :)
May 29 10:45:05 <morphis> JaMa|Off: just some seconds ago
May 29 10:45:07 <morphis> JaMa|Off: mdbus2 is a wired one
May 29 10:45:09 <morphis> the utility was once named mdbus and shipped a mdbus python script
May 29 10:45:23 <morphis> nowadays its still named mdbus and ships a mdbus2 utility
May 29 10:45:53 <morphis> s/utility/binary/
May 29 10:45:53 <apt> morphis meant: nowadays its still named mdbus and ships a mdbus2 binary
May 29 10:46:07 <morphis> but it's still the version 2 of the mdbus utility
May 29 10:46:13 <morphis> but now in vala instead python
May 29 10:47:25 <JaMa|Off> yes but directory in git repo is still named mdbus2, directory in downloads.fso is still named mdbus2, so it's more consistent to name it mdbus2_2.2.0.bb and keep mdbus2-2.2.0 directory in it IMHO
May 29 10:47:41 <JaMa|Off> mdbus2_2.2.0.tar.bz2..
May 29 10:47:53 <JaMa|Off> the same for mterm2
May 29 10:48:37 <JaMa|Off> or rename also directory in git/downloads and I'll drop old mdbus_git.bb recipe and replace it with this new version (in all tasks-* too).
May 29 10:49:38 <morphis> hm
May 29 10:50:28 <morphis> ok, let's switch it to mdbus2
May 29 10:50:39 <morphis> as that seems to be mickeyl's intention once ago
May 29 10:51:03 <JaMa|Off> good
May 29 10:51:04 <JaMa|Off> thanks
May 29 10:51:12 <JaMa|Off> it's like mplayer2 :)
May 29 10:51:39 <morphis> yes
May 29 10:51:55 <morphis> but I will do another release so debian can update too
May 29 10:52:11 <morphis> so 2.3 will name it mdbus2_2.3.0.tar.bz2 instead of mdbus_...*
May 29 10:53:08 <JaMa|Off> and you want to release it now or later? (should I commit recipes for 2.2.0)?
May 29 10:54:09 <morphis> I will do it right now
May 29 10:55:51 <JaMa|Off> ok
May 29 11:00:45 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r4892aadf66dc 10/tools/mdbus2/configure.ac: tools: mdbus2: mdbus2 is now known as mdbus2 for release as well
May 29 11:00:47 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r483a8c68de43 10/tools/mdbus2/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): tools: mdbus2: prepare for 2.3.0 release
May 29 11:00:48 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r9c695dd15e71 10/tools/mdbus2/configure.ac: tools: mdbus2: leave release mode and prepare for next
May 29 11:01:01 <morphis> JaMa|Off: done
May 29 11:01:13 <morphis> JaMa|Off: release archive is in tools/mdbus2/ now
May 29 11:04:04 <JaMa|Off> ok, thanks
May 29 11:06:26 <morphis> no problem
May 29 11:06:36 <morphis> I have to thank you for point this out :)
May 29 11:10:41 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r5a40582c851c 10/meta-fso/conf/distro/include/fso-autorev.inc: meta-fso: fso-autorev: add warning about dropped Palm Pre support
May 29 11:10:52 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rfd2fa30d2a18 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/cornucopia/ (fsogsmd_0.11.1.bb fsogsmd_0.11.2.bb): meta-fso: fsogsmd: upgrade to 0.11.2
May 29 11:10:52 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * re5011de77514 10/meta-fso/ (5 files in 2 dirs): meta-fso: mdbus2: upgrade to 2.3.0
May 29 11:10:52 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r08e2c5e8bcbe 10/meta-fso/ (5 files in 2 dirs): meta-fso: mdbus2: add recipe for 2.2.0 release and bump CORNUCOPIA_SRCREV for corresponding mdbus2 git recipe
May 29 11:12:56 <gnutoo> grrr grrr grrr
May 29 11:13:39 <gnutoo> bluetooth don't work anymore because that package is empty:
May 29 11:13:57 <gnutoo> libasound-module-bluez
May 29 11:18:26 <JaMa|Off> PACKAGECONFIG ??= "${@base_contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'alsa', 'alsa', '', d)}"
May 29 11:20:57 <JaMa|Off> PACKAGECONFIG[alsa] = "--enable-alsa,--disable-alsa,alsa-lib"
May 29 11:20:57 <JaMa|Off> that's why
May 29 11:20:57 <gnutoo> any workarround?
May 29 11:20:59 <gnutoo> I use the official feeds
May 29 11:20:59 <gnutoo> the stable feeds (no shr-core-staging)
May 29 11:21:16 <gnutoo> stable means stock shr-core from the feeds
May 29 11:21:16 <gnutoo> and I sopted that new syntax in patches
May 29 11:21:16 <gnutoo> but forget to investigate on what it did
May 29 11:21:16 <gnutoo> thanks a lot for helping me!!!!!
May 29 11:21:16 <JaMa|Off> yes something like http://paste.lugons.org/show/1540/
May 29 11:21:16 <gnutoo> I'm short on time.....
May 29 11:21:17 <gnutoo> so is there a binary of that bluez plugin somewhere?
May 29 11:21:17 <gnutoo> or maybe I power on my build laptop?
May 29 11:21:17 <gnutoo> and look at the binaries
May 29 11:21:17 <gnutoo> and push them
May 29 11:22:25 <gnutoo> ah wait a second
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> the syntax means like use flag of gentoo
May 29 11:22:42 <JaMa|Off> some older libasound-module-bluez probably still have binaries
May 29 11:22:42 <JaMa|Off> yes
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> ok
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> I'll look in the older packages
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> because find -name won't give hints if the binary was not even built
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> s/binary/lib
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> also I've assigned an efl bug to you
May 29 11:22:42 <JaMa|Off> I've noticed
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> ok
May 29 11:22:42 <gnutoo> I hope you were the right person
May 29 11:27:50 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * ra37afe966968 10/ (209 files in 28 dirs): system upgrade
May 29 11:27:50 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r373426cbad69 10/ (880 files in 74 dirs): system upgrade
May 29 11:37:40 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * ra53b224c1e55 10/meta-shr/recipes-connectivity/bluez/bluez4_4.99.bbappend: meta-shr: bluez4: enable alsa
May 29 11:38:55 <gnutoo> it seem that Enable=Socket didn't made it yet
May 29 11:38:55 <gnutoo> I'll add it and reboot
May 29 11:38:55 <JaMa|Off> are you sure it didn't?
May 29 11:38:56 <JaMa|Off> OE @ ~/shr-core/tmp-eglibc/work/armv5te-oe-linux-gnueabi/bluez4/bluez4-4.99-r4/packages-split $ grep Enable bluez4/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
May 29 11:38:56 <JaMa|Off> Enable=Socket
May 29 11:39:43 <gnutoo> thanks a lot !!!!!!
May 29 11:39:51 <gnutoo> for me it didn't
May 29 11:40:00 <gnutoo> let me look at the feeds I have
May 29 11:40:23 <gnutoo> src/gz shr-2012.07-armv4t http://build.shr-project.org/shr-2012.07/ipk/armv4t
May 29 11:41:59 <JaMa|Off> that's probably too old
May 29 11:43:17 <JaMa|Off> yes.. it was added on May 12 and last staging merged to shr-2012.07 was May 04
May 29 11:43:53 <JaMa|Off> you need at least staging 056
May 29 11:46:35 <gnutoo> yes indeed
May 29 11:46:42 <gnutoo> buut it's my main phone....
May 29 11:46:47 <gnutoo> bye and thanks a lot again
May 29 11:46:50 <gnutoo> I really must go
May 29 11:59:19 <morphis> shr-2012.07 is not considered stable ... it's in development
May 29 11:59:46 <morphis> shr-2012.01 is stable
May 29 12:00:49 <JaMa|Off> shr-core-staging is broken for many due to #2003 :/
May 29 12:01:10 <JaMa|Off> that's why I cannot merge them even to shr-2012.07
May 29 12:01:40 <morphis> no solution available?
May 29 12:02:08 <JaMa|Off> not yet.. at least not from me as I was quite busy with other stuff
May 29 12:14:33 <CIA-17> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rd4d15b42d1a6 10/packages/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/ (87 files in 87 dirs): packages: Build 201205291349 of shr 20120529 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild
May 29 12:21:24 * mrmoku will try to look at #2003 today
May 29 12:26:49 <JaMa|Off> mrmoku: great, thanks
May 29 12:27:24 <mickey_office> morphis: dropping support for palm pre… doesn't that make you cry?
May 29 12:27:36 <mickey_office> considering all the countless hours of work you did
May 29 12:27:57 <morphis> mickey_office: for sure it makes me cry
May 29 12:28:08 <morphis> but supporting it anymore is also countless work
May 29 12:28:15 <morphis> it makes no sense
May 29 12:28:35 <morphis> it was a nice time, I learned a lot but I have need to look forward
May 29 12:28:49 <morphis> s/have//
May 29 12:28:49 <apt> morphis meant: it was a nice time, I learned a lot but I  need to look forward
May 29 12:28:50 <mickey_office> *nod*
May 29 12:29:57 <morphis> I am sad about dropping it as I spent a lot of hours working on it
May 29 12:30:04 <morphis> but it's still in a not-very-usable state
May 29 12:31:06 <morphis> there are better things to work on
May 29 13:08:06 <CIA-17> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r403eb1f370e5 10/packages/armv7a-vfp-neon-oe-linux-gnueabi/ (87 files in 87 dirs): packages: Build 201205291438 of shr 20120529 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild
May 29 13:26:08 <CIA-17> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r361a704a5e5c 10/images/crespo/eglibc/chroot-image/ (build-id image-info.txt installed-package-sizes.txt): images: Build 201205291518 of shr 20120529 for machine crespo on opmbuild
May 29 17:54:32 <morphis> mrmoku: ping
May 29 17:56:45 <morphis> JaMa|Off:  "whole fso-abyss could be IMHO removed now": please do so
May 29 18:00:47 <JaMa|Off> ok
May 29 18:01:09 <lindi-> I never even had time to migrate to it :) still using gsm0710muxd :P
May 29 18:04:43 <morphis> lindi-: isn't the whole muxing done with libgsm0710mux inside of fsogsmd?
May 29 18:05:04 <morphis> JaMa|Off: about fsosystemd: do we need it anymore?
May 29 18:05:13 <morphis> since udev is back in SHR
May 29 18:17:11 <lindi-> morphis: I'm not using fsogsmd either :)
May 29 18:17:45 <morphis> lindi-: ok, old frameworkd?
May 29 18:18:28 <lindi-> morphis: yeah, ogsmd
May 29 18:19:10 <morphis> what makes you to stick with ogsmd?
May 29 18:19:41 <lindi-> morphis: I wanted stability
May 29 18:19:53 <morphis> you tried fsogsmd?
May 29 18:20:03 <lindi-> morphis: nope
May 29 18:20:13 <lindi-> morphis: limited time and all that
May 29 18:20:16 <morphis> ok
May 29 18:20:36 <morphis> what type of UI you're using?
May 29 18:21:23 <lindi-> morphis: for calls?
May 29 18:21:37 <lindi-> morphis: just a simple ui done with python and gtk
May 29 18:21:42 <morphis> ok
May 29 18:21:52 <morphis> you're using your phone just for calls?
May 29 18:22:10 <lindi-> morphis: nope
May 29 18:22:15 <lindi-> morphis: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Lindi documents some parts of the setup
May 29 18:31:15 <morphis> lindi-: interesting
May 29 18:33:15 <lindi-> morphis: don't take me wrong though, I have nothing against more modern interfaces and frameworks
May 29 18:33:40 <lindi-> morphis: I'd love to have more touchscreen friendly software too. It's just that I have limited time and I want stability
May 29 18:34:14 <morphis> lindi-: no fear, I am just interested in the setup of people using the FSO framework
May 29 18:34:36 <lindi-> morphis: yeah I just run ogsmd and no other part of the frameworkd
May 29 18:34:40 <morphis> ok
May 29 18:34:45 <morphis> a recent version?
May 29 18:35:41 <lindi-> morphis: not very recent
May 29 18:35:50 <lindi-> morphis: I think upstream stopped maintaining it quite some time ago?
May 29 18:38:48 <morphis> lindi-: no officially
May 29 18:39:15 <morphis> but that will follow if no one steps up to maintain it
May 29 18:39:32 <morphis> it's deprecated anyway long ago
May 29 18:39:38 <morphis> just opimd is used in SHR
May 29 18:40:04 <morphis> but I think there are already better replacements out there to use than writing a fsopimd
May 29 18:40:47 <JaMa|Off> morphis: my bootcharts show that there is still some delay in boot due to udev.. so when I find some time, I would like to try to get rid of udev again
May 29 18:40:58 <lindi-> morphis: oh, I have some custom patches for it I think
May 29 18:41:02 <lindi-> morphis: mostly tiny bugfixes
May 29 18:41:16 <JaMa|Off> morphis: so fsosystemd is not mandatory now, but no harm keeping it for now IMHO
May 29 18:41:53 <morphis> lindi-: then please send them to the smartphone-userland ML
May 29 18:41:56 <morphis> JaMa|Off: ok
May 29 18:43:05 <CIA-17> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * rb731762a76de 10/meta-fso/recipes-freesmartphone/cornucopia/ (4 files in 4 dirs): meta-fso: fso-abyss: drop recipes for deprecated fso-abyss
May 29 18:43:30 <morphis> lindi-: you're using debian as base?
May 29 19:12:54 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 070.11 * r72a298df9ccc 10cornucopia/fsodeviced/src/lib/Makefile.am: fsodeviced: lib: fsodevice-2.0.deps should be part of the distribution archive
May 29 19:12:55 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 070.11 * ra23c9fd458c2 10cornucopia/fsodeviced/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): fsodeviced: release version 0.11.1
May 29 19:14:35 <CIA-17> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rb86aac6cf507 10/fsodeviced/src/lib/Makefile.am: fsodeviced: lib: fsodevice-2.0.deps should be part of the distribution archive
May 29 20:43:32 <samgee> What distro works nowadays for using the Freerunner as a phone?
May 29 20:49:37 <GNUtoo-desktop> samgee, I use SHR
May 29 20:49:44 <GNUtoo-desktop> but qtmoko and debian are also good
May 29 20:51:50 <samgee> I tried Debian last weekend, but I couldn't start any of the phone applications.
May 29 20:52:14 <samgee> I thought qtmoko was dead.
May 29 21:10:15 <samgee> Ah, SHR core gives me a pin dialog and dialer works.
May 29 21:46:08 <nschle85> hurra, got wlan working again
May 30 00:34:42 <Alex[sp3dev]> GNUtoo-desktop: hi, just popped in to tell you I've almost finished the uboot project on sgs2. now it boots android kernel, and when the user holds home key, it boots custom kernel from emmc. So one can put a custom kernel to a file in the internal sdcard with hardcoded cmdline and boot anything from anywhere
May 30 00:35:01 <GNUtoo-desktop> wow
May 30 00:35:30 <Alex[sp3dev]> wow, 100 mbit is cool. downloaded shr image in 10 seconds
May 30 00:46:54 <pabs3> samgee: QtMoko is anything but dead
May 30 00:56:32 <ayaka> GNUtoo-desktop hello
May 30 00:59:23 <ayaka> I can make any boot image boot properly now
May 30 00:59:39 <ayaka> they will all load the initramfs
May 30 00:59:50 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
May 30 01:00:37 <ayaka> maybe it is the fastboot or hboot problem
May 30 01:00:57 <ayaka> what shall I do to find out problem
May 30 01:02:53 <GNUtoo-desktop> no idea sorry
May 30 01:03:41 <ayaka> GNUtoo-desktop thank you
May 30 01:04:40 <ayaka> maybe I should wait Alex[sp3dev], I have just compile lk_bootloader, but I don't know how to boot it at all
May 30 01:05:11 <ayaka> does all bootloader support be chainloaded
May 30 01:05:23 <GNUtoo-desktop> ayaka, it depend on the bootloader indeed
May 30 01:05:32 <GNUtoo-desktop> basically some do, some don't but yours does
May 30 01:07:08 <ayaka> ok, but which binary is bootable after built
May 30 01:07:14 <GNUtoo-desktop> no idea
May 30 01:07:19 <GNUtoo-desktop> I never touched LK
May 30 01:08:30 <ayaka> I see, do you know when will Alex[sp3dev], most of, when he is avaible, but my network is off or sleep
May 30 01:09:15 <GNUtoo-desktop> maybe write a mail because he quited just before you joined
May 30 01:09:50 <ayaka> oh, no, but which mail list that he has joined
May 30 01:09:57 <GNUtoo-desktop> no idea
May 30 01:10:04 <GNUtoo-desktop> but try to find him on gitorious
May 30 01:10:14 <GNUtoo-desktop> then look his mail from the commits
May 30 01:11:38 <ayaka> gitorious, a site?
May 30 01:11:52 <GNUtoo-desktop> yes
May 30 01:12:20 <ayaka> GNUtoo-desktop thank you very much
May 30 01:12:22 <GNUtoo-desktop> https://gitorious.org/~ast
May 30 01:14:27 <ayaka> thank you very much
May 30 01:14:54 <ayaka> maybe I can use the send message function
May 30 01:16:33 <GNUtoo-desktop> ayaka, or maybe you can download a git commit
May 30 01:16:37 <GNUtoo-desktop> and get his mail like that
May 30 01:17:02 <ayaka> how to download git commit
May 30 01:17:15 <GNUtoo-desktop> https://gitorious.org/i9100-proper-linux/i9100-uboot/commit/9e33ae0c56339dfe10ca9c666e0b391e0661d560?format=patch
May 30 01:18:05 <ayaka> oh, caught
May 30 01:18:42 <GNUtoo-desktop> I'll go to sleep
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