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Jun 02 10:18:03 <vdox2> hi
Jun 02 10:18:09 <vdox2> gonna ask these questions here too:
Jun 02 10:18:11 <vdox2> which features do i miss if i want to run freerunner only on FLOSS? If i understand correctly, osmocombb should on work on freerunner
Jun 02 10:18:18 <vdox2> so what's left? wifi/hw-accelerated graphics?
Jun 02 10:18:42 <vdox2> I'm interested in GTA02, and possibly GTA04
Jun 02 10:20:42 <pabs3> on gta02 wifi, gsm, gps and maybe more has embedded non-free firmware. there is no free or non-free hw-accelerated graphics
Jun 02 10:21:40 <vdox2> glamo?
Jun 02 10:23:02 <pabs3> right, there are no 3D drivers for the glamo (free or non-free)
Jun 02 10:23:21 <vdox2> all right
Jun 02 10:24:02 <pabs3> for gta04 there is some detail here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-May/067030.html
Jun 02 10:25:37 <pabs3> I think gta04 is similar to gta02 except no osmocombb
Jun 02 10:28:48 <vdox2> okay, but say I don't use wifi nor gps and use osmocombb for gsm then i could run freerunners with floss?
Jun 02 10:30:47 <pabs3> to be clear, the freeness issues with these devices (gsm, wifi, SIM card, uSD cards) are the firmware, not the drivers or other stuff running on the CPU.
Jun 02 10:33:30 <vdox2> pabs3: osmocom provides free firmware? at least on bb.osmocom.org/trac/OpenMoko there are instructions on loading a bin file on the phone
Jun 02 10:34:22 <pabs3> correct, I don't think it is yet usable with the distros you run on the CPU though
Jun 02 10:35:08 <pabs3> anyway I've no idea what other non-free firmware is there, maybe even the battery or the charger has some firmware
Jun 02 10:36:31 <vdox2> hmm, yeah. Couldn't find topics which discussed the issue in more detail. Gotta take a second look
Jun 02 10:36:35 <vdox2> pabs: thanks :)
Jun 02 19:25:07 <nschle85> mrmoku: hello :-)
Jun 02 19:25:26 <mrmoku> yo nschle85 
Jun 02 19:26:51 <nschle85> mrmoku: if i start iliwi on N900 it cannot scan. i have to ifconfig wlan0 up how should iliwi bring up the interface ? is it done via FSO ?
Jun 02 19:35:22 <nschle85> mrmoku: do you know what mickey is currently working on ?
Jun 02 20:15:43 <nschle85> TAsn: ping
Jun 03 00:41:49 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] hello
Jun 03 00:42:28 <ayaka> do you receive my last mail about developing lk_bootloader
Jun 03 00:45:47 <ayaka> the lk_bootloader doesn't have any documents, I don't how to modify it
Jun 03 00:54:29 <Alex[sp3dev]> ayaka: hi. sorry, 5 am here
Jun 03 00:55:11 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] i see, that time I am sleep(utc+8)
Jun 03 00:55:46 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] will you go sleep now
Jun 03 00:56:56 <Alex[sp3dev]> ayaka: yes. for lk, you need to relocate it to 0x0 or make sure it boots from kernel address. i will look later, but take a look at my git (gitorious.org/~ast), it has lk repo for photon and tinboot repo which will help you understand how to relocate cod
Jun 03 00:58:07 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] thank you, I know that src, but does the msm8660 part is updated to master branch
Jun 03 00:58:58 <Alex[sp3dev]> ayaka: you do not need to use my code. just look at it and modify the lk from codeaurora
Jun 03 00:59:40 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] which branch is your original src from, I will make a patch
Jun 03 01:01:12 <Alex[sp3dev]> ayaka: i think, some old msm7227 from codeaurora. there are VERY MANY changes however. see, lk will get loaded to KERNEL_ADDR, and you need it to get loaded at MEMBASE
Jun 03 01:02:10 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] could you tell me which file defines the KERNEL_ADDR
Jun 03 01:04:47 <Alex[sp3dev]> ayaka: rules.mk in target/$board_name probably
Jun 03 01:05:33 <Alex[sp3dev]> ok, changing KERNEL_ADDR to MEMBASE is not exactly a good idea. but on armv7, you can probably load LK to any address. have you tried just loading lk.bin instead of kernel?
Jun 03 01:05:46 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] so I just need to modify that file, but how about memory size and mode
Jun 03 01:05:48 <Alex[sp3dev]> what you should do is change MEMBASE to KERNEL_ADDR, recompile lk and try to boot it
Jun 03 01:06:25 <Alex[sp3dev]> armv7 can have interrupt vectors at arbitrary place in memory so you don't have to worry about load address in memory
Jun 03 01:06:41 <Alex[sp3dev]> ok, i'm off to bed. good night/morning
Jun 03 01:06:43 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] I may have tried to load it to kernel, I just use fastboot boot ig
Jun 03 01:06:52 <ayaka> Alex[sp3dev] good bye
Jun 03 01:06:59 <ayaka> have a good sleep
Jun 03 02:21:22 <cenobyte_> hello
Jun 03 02:22:41 <cenobyte_> i wondered if the shr makefile can be made to install certain ipk's during configuration
Jun 03 02:22:42 <cenobyte_> ?
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