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Jun 11 10:58:59 <DocScrutinizer05> https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2012/06/11/cve-2012-2122-a-tragically-comedic-security-flaw-in-mysql !!!!!
Jun 11 11:10:28 <JaMa|Off> DocScrutinizer05: doesn't work on my mysql install (on gentoo with sse2) :)
Jun 11 11:10:51 <DocScrutinizer05> doesn't work on my CentOS
Jun 11 11:11:39 <DocScrutinizer05> and on my local Suse12.1 I got not even MySQL started ;-D
Jun 11 11:12:51 <DocScrutinizer05> dafaq hash char ??
Jun 11 11:13:08 <DocScrutinizer05> schar actually
Jun 11 11:13:21 <DocScrutinizer05> aka int8
Jun 11 12:28:25 <ayaka> dc=ldap, dc=sumomo, dc=pri ,I tried it in dpkg-reconfigure slapd, but why it is a  invilad domain
Jun 11 12:52:33 <lindi-> ayaka: you really need to improve your english :)
Jun 11 12:52:55 <ayaka> lindi-, yes
Jun 11 12:53:24 <ayaka> lindi-, but why do you said that suddently
Jun 11 12:53:39 <ayaka> I havn't said anything today in here
Jun 11 12:55:11 <lindi-> ayaka: I guess I should help you fix the problems too: ",I" -> ", I"        "a invilad domain" -> "an invalid domain"
Jun 11 12:56:19 <ayaka> lindi-,  very sorry, why not tell me that in #debian-offtopic, it is offtopic here, thank you
Jun 11 13:03:47 <DocScrutinizer05> ayaka: sure about that?
Jun 11 13:04:21 <ayaka> DocScrutinizer, what shall I sure
Jun 11 13:04:27 <DocScrutinizer05> ayaka: maybe it's just me, or your english, but I fail to see the relation to topic of your post
Jun 11 13:05:11 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway
Jun 11 13:05:13 <DocScrutinizer05> ~ask
Jun 11 13:05:14 <apt> Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
Jun 11 13:05:21 <ayaka> DocScrutinizer,  yes, we just offtopic, that wrong sentence I didn't said it here
Jun 11 13:06:33 <DocScrutinizer05> you didn't say it here? What's that then: [11.06.2012 14:28:19] <ayaka> dc=ldap, dc=sumomo, dc=pri ,I tried it in dpkg-reconfigure slapd, but why it is a  invilad domain
Jun 11 13:07:17 <ayaka> DocScrutinizer, oh, sorry, I type it in accident
Jun 11 13:07:21 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry I don't get a simple word of that post, except the word ldap. And I wonder how it's related to the chan topic
Jun 11 13:07:56 <ayaka> DocScrutinizer,  I don't want to said that sentence here
Jun 11 13:08:26 <DocScrutinizer05> so I guess you should beg lindi- for pardon 
Jun 11 13:09:02 <ayaka> lindi-, I beg you for pardon
Jun 11 13:09:02 <DocScrutinizer05> as it's obviously you who's been off topic, not he
Jun 11 13:53:57 <GNUtoo> I did init=/bin/ash on the n900
Jun 11 13:54:10 <GNUtoo> and ran the threaded real time example program
Jun 11 13:54:12 <GNUtoo> and it worked
Jun 11 13:54:22 <GNUtoo> so I guess it's *not* the kernel but systemd
Jun 11 13:54:28 <GNUtoo> I was given a link for that
Jun 11 13:54:33 <GNUtoo> I tried it and still didn't work
Jun 11 13:55:30 <lindi-> GNUtoo: what problem is this? Did you write a bug report somewhere publicly?
Jun 11 13:55:41 <GNUtoo> no
Jun 11 13:55:57 <GNUtoo> basically I'm rewriting the n900 forwarder
Jun 11 13:56:17 <lindi-> GNUtoo: I have no idea what that is :/
Jun 11 13:56:20 <GNUtoo> and I need some stuff to run as realtime
Jun 11 13:56:44 <GNUtoo> the n900 is the nokia n900, and it's audio is a bit like the gta04:
Jun 11 13:56:55 <GNUtoo> you have to forward the audio from the modem to the CODEC
Jun 11 13:56:56 <lindi-> I don't have gta04 either :)
Jun 11 13:57:01 <GNUtoo> and from the CODEC to the modem
Jun 11 13:57:02 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 11 13:57:10 <GNUtoo> then let me explain better
Jun 11 13:57:34 <GNUtoo> the modem audio is available trough the cmt_speech API
Jun 11 13:57:45 <GNUtoo> you have to decode it and play it back trough alsa
Jun 11 13:57:54 <GNUtoo> in order to get sound during calls
Jun 11 13:58:00 <lindi-> GNUtoo: no need, I was just hoping you had some easy bug report I could quickly browse throught :)
Jun 11 13:58:06 <GNUtoo> the forwarder does just that
Jun 11 13:58:09 <lindi-> since on IRC things are forgotten easily
Jun 11 13:58:15 <GNUtoo> I'm working on it
Jun 11 13:58:21 <GNUtoo> it won't be forgetten....
Jun 11 13:58:28 <lindi-> good
Jun 11 13:58:31 <GNUtoo> I've pushed my code in branches etc...
Jun 11 13:59:06 <GNUtoo> maybe we should invent a new idiom such as :
Jun 11 13:59:15 <GNUtoo> the IRC vanish but the bugreport remains
Jun 11 13:59:22 <GNUtoo> I know it only in french 
Jun 11 15:02:13 <DocScrutinizer05> honestly, systemd... :-x
Jun 11 15:03:56 <DocScrutinizer05> systemd --help INVOKES $PAGER! Now that's one sane fundamental system tool
Jun 11 15:16:16 <lindi-> not in debian wheezy systemd 43-1 apparently yet
Jun 11 15:19:53 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer05: it seems there's an  internal fallback pager so that you can still read the help even in emergencies
Jun 11 15:25:01 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer05: it seems to attribute git for inventing this conventtion
Jun 11 15:25:21 <lindi-> try e.g. "git commit --help"
Jun 11 15:25:46 <mrmoku> yup git uses PAGER whenever invoked interactively
Jun 11 15:25:56 <mrmoku> but NOT when you pipe to somewhere
Jun 11 15:26:52 <lindi-> mrmoku: yep. as you can easily see from http://iki.fi/lindi/getenv.png   it also uses GIT_PAGER
Jun 11 15:27:24 <mrmoku> :)
Jun 11 15:27:33 <lindi-> and systemd uses SYSTEMD_PAGER
Jun 11 15:27:39 <mrmoku> :;P
Jun 11 15:38:02 <DocScrutinizer51> the usecases of git and systemd are somewhat differing though
Jun 11 15:39:00 <DocScrutinizer51> systemd is truly ~poettering
Jun 11 15:43:55 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer05: systemd pager seems to have been written by Miklos though, not Lennart
Jun 11 15:51:48 <DocScrutinizer51> the pager, oh well
Jun 11 15:52:14 <DocScrutinizer51> the whole concept is once more ~poettering
Jun 11 16:00:44 <lindi-> it can't be fully if it was first in git :)
Jun 11 16:01:25 <DocScrutinizer51> damn, what got git to do with system init?
Jun 11 16:02:58 <DocScrutinizer51> while git could actually use a X skin, I'm afraid systemd is the first to come with mouse support integrated
Jun 11 16:07:44 <prahal> after much more tests ... seems I cannot connect to WPA2 on gta04 :(
Jun 11 16:07:57 <DocScrutinizer51> could someone do me a favour and find out about filesize of initd versus systemd?
Jun 11 16:08:07 <prahal> I wonder if anybody succeed doing so on any board shipping the marvell sd8686 ?
Jun 11 16:08:21 <prahal> initd or init ?
Jun 11 16:08:58 <DocScrutinizer51> initd I'd say
Jun 11 16:09:39 <DocScrutinizer51> init is a silly interactive executable nobody usually needs, no?
Jun 11 16:10:15 <DocScrutinizer51> probably init and initd are same binary
Jun 11 16:11:45 <prahal> there is no such thing as initd on debian , why I asked
Jun 11 16:11:54 <prahal> telinit is the the interactive 
Jun 11 16:12:58 <DocScrutinizer51> well, just give me size of process 0 binary
Jun 11 16:13:19 <prahal> and init size itself is meaningless , ie its memory size matters
Jun 11 16:13:28 <DocScrutinizer51> or actually nevermind
Jun 11 16:14:28 <prahal> 2596 RSS for systemd
Jun 11 16:14:32 <DocScrutinizer51> memsize, sure. But during active phase
Jun 11 16:14:42 <prahal> 572 for init
Jun 11 16:15:03 <prahal> would need a profile during boot
Jun 11 16:15:09 <prahal> those are after boot
Jun 11 16:15:11 <DocScrutinizer51> thought as much anyway
Jun 11 16:15:33 <prahal> but init is an empty shell
Jun 11 16:16:12 <prahal> one should account for the wrapper scripts 
Jun 11 16:16:50 <prahal> about the marvell sd8686 any hint on where I could get some inputs ?
Jun 11 16:16:58 <prahal> any
Jun 11 16:17:36 <prahal> as I run init in slow mode (the default) they are not included
Jun 11 16:18:34 <prahal> I cannot seem to remind the option to get the wrapper scripts ran in the init context ... a benchmark ought to compare with this setup (be it about speed or size)
Jun 11 16:37:12 <prahal> all I remind is it was about fork and extension of the shell script
Jun 11 16:46:08 <prahal> ok sysv-rc from debian at least still have comments about this ; # Source shell script for speed ; # No sh extension, so fork subprocess
Jun 11 17:32:18 <morphis> heyho
Jun 11 17:32:42 <morphis> yeah, FSO 0.11 has now arrived in Debian testing and will be part of Wheezy finally!
Jun 11 17:33:16 <prahal> !o! 
Jun 11 17:38:18 <morphis> JaMa|Off: ping
Jun 11 18:14:10 <jake42> morphis: hi, how can i register an account for fso trac?
Jun 11 18:14:39 <morphis> I think we deactivated it due to spam sometime ago
Jun 11 18:14:43 <morphis> but let me reactivate it
Jun 11 18:15:55 <morphis> hm
Jun 11 18:15:58 <morphis> but where
Jun 11 18:18:44 <MMlosh> great, navit does not delay with  shr-core  (I had to stop gpsd.socket and run gpsd manually,though)  The only thing left from perfection is flite..  can I install the piece found in unstable/testing?
Jun 11 18:21:43 <jake42> morphis: is just wanted to report a bug
Jun 11 18:23:15 <morphis> jake42: you can register now
Jun 11 18:23:20 <jake42> thanks :)
Jun 11 18:23:58 <morphis> no problem
Jun 11 18:24:10 <morphis> btw. I don't like this trac thing, should go away in the future
Jun 11 18:24:40 <jake42> got something better?
Jun 11 18:25:40 <morphis> not yet
Jun 11 18:25:59 <morphis> maybe we just have to reset the whole installation and make it better than now
Jun 11 18:27:19 <jake42> morphis: outputs some error when trying to register
Jun 11 18:28:25 <jake42> morphis: my problems is that I'm always recieving textmessages "double" in ui, as fso is not able to ack the messege
Jun 11 18:28:29 <jake42> http://www.pastie.org/private/ohe6fotqypjdu6b3afeo7w
Jun 11 18:28:52 <jake42> so it gets stored in sim 
Jun 11 18:30:49 <morphis> ah a problem with incoming SMS messages
Jun 11 18:30:53 <jake42> fyi this bug has been there for along time
Jun 11 18:30:57 <morphis> jake42: with 0.11?
Jun 11 18:31:26 <jake42> morphis: at least for a year or so
Jun 11 18:31:30 <morphis> ok
Jun 11 18:31:49 <morphis> jake42: registration works?
Jun 11 18:32:38 <jake42> there's a bug report which is similar on shr http://www.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/1494
Jun 11 18:32:43 <jake42> morphis: i'll try again
Jun 11 18:34:15 <morphis> jake42: can you attach the log file to the bug report and describe everything in detail (+ link to the SHR bug)?
Jun 11 18:34:21 <jake42> morphis: says:
Jun 11 18:34:22 <jake42> Trac detected an internal error:
Jun 11 18:34:22 <jake42> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: ''
Jun 11 18:34:26 <morphis> hm
Jun 11 18:34:28 <morphis> try again
Jun 11 18:35:21 <morphis> hm
Jun 11 18:35:36 <jake42> morphis: still the same..
Jun 11 18:35:40 <morphis> jake42: then please drop me a mail with the relevant information I will add them as bug report
Jun 11 18:35:46 <morphis> need to really fix this damn trac thing
Jun 11 18:37:20 <jake42> I'm gona go and get some dinner
Jun 11 19:04:22 <JaMa|Off> morphis: weak pong
Jun 11 19:04:34 <morphis> JaMa|Off: I have some trouble with systemd here
Jun 11 19:04:38 <morphis> on crespo
Jun 11 19:05:04 <morphis> I want the rndissetup.sh script to be executed before /etc/init.d/networking || ifup rndis0
Jun 11 19:05:23 <morphis> putting a link into basic.target.wants or network.target.wants does not work
Jun 11 19:05:39 <morphis> JaMa|Off: btw. the SHR image for GTA02 you gave me worked fine
Jun 11 19:07:04 <JaMa|Off> I've closed 062 with those upgraded fso components today
Jun 11 19:07:11 <JaMa|Off> so hopefully more people will test that
Jun 11 19:07:24 <JaMa|Off> but my gta04 still refuses to open modem with that..
Jun 11 19:08:10 <morphis> really?
Jun 11 19:08:23 <morphis> with timing out while powering it up?
Jun 11 19:09:19 <morphis> JaMa|Off: can you check if it works with this script here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/devices/gta04/src/devtools/scripts/modem-poweron.sh
Jun 11 19:10:03 <morphis> JaMa|Off: do you have any idea?
Jun 11 19:13:12 <JaMa|Off> no timeout in that pastebin I've linked here..
Jun 11 19:13:15 <JaMa|Off> mmt dinner
Jun 11 19:13:29 <morphis> hm ok
Jun 11 19:13:37 <morphis> JaMa|Off: any idea about the systemd network thing?
Jun 11 19:18:45 <JaMa|Off> for rndissetup, are you using rndissetup.service provided by systemd-machine-units?
Jun 11 19:19:02 <JaMa|Off> or really rndissetup.sh init script (which should be masked instead)?
Jun 11 19:26:34 <morphis> the service
Jun 11 19:26:40 <morphis> it's started too late
Jun 11 19:26:45 <morphis> so ifup is already done
Jun 11 19:28:44 <morphis> JaMa|Off: I tried to put a link in basic.target.wants and network.target.wants but that doesn't help
Jun 11 19:28:47 <JaMa|Off> morphis: modem-poweron.sh worked
Jun 11 19:28:52 <morphis> JaMa|Off: ok
Jun 11 19:29:02 <morphis> JaMa|Off: I will try 062 tomorrow on my GTA04
Jun 11 19:29:08 <morphis> and try to fix this then
Jun 11 19:29:12 <JaMa|Off> but it wasn't needed with fso-0.11
Jun 11 19:29:56 <morphis> the modem-poweron.sh script?
Jun 11 19:30:10 <JaMa|Off> yes
Jun 11 19:30:21 <JaMa|Off> try Before=networking.service in rndissetup.service
Jun 11 19:31:07 <morphis> JaMa|Off: it should not be needed to power up fsogsmd
Jun 11 19:31:22 <JaMa|Off> but Requires=rndissetup.service in networking.service would be better
Jun 11 19:31:42 <morphis> but then we need to touch networking.service
Jun 11 19:32:09 <morphis> JaMa|Off: can you send me the log for the fsogsmd start on GTA04?
Jun 11 19:32:31 <JaMa|Off> http://paste.debian.net/173986/
Jun 11 19:32:51 <JaMa|Off> LowLevelGTA04 <>: Powering modem on now ... is shown only when modem-poweron.sh is executed
Jun 11 19:33:13 <morphis> "Before=networking.service" in [Service] section?
Jun 11 19:33:47 <morphis> JaMa|Off: networking.service is not in /lib/systemd/system
Jun 11 19:34:15 <JaMa|Off> it's created from sysvinit networking script
Jun 11 19:34:18 <morphis> there is no networking.service at all
Jun 11 19:34:23 <morphis> ah at runtime
Jun 11 19:34:23 <morphis> ok
Jun 11 19:34:26 <JaMa|Off> not as native systemd service
Jun 11 19:34:39 <morphis> tricky
Jun 11 19:35:14 <morphis> JaMa|Off: you get this after a fresh boot?
Jun 11 19:40:06 <JaMa|Off> yes
Jun 11 19:40:50 <JaMa|Off> and iirc this happens only since this last upgrade.. before I had that "NO CARRIER"
Jun 11 19:41:35 <morphis> hm
Jun 11 19:41:42 <morphis> it's a GTA04A3?
Jun 11 19:42:10 <JaMa|Off> and NO CARRIER is still there (with modem started by modem-poweron.sh)
Jun 11 19:43:30 <morphis> ok
Jun 11 19:43:45 <morphis> JaMa|Off: but it's a GTA04A4?
Jun 11 19:44:12 <morphis> JaMa|Off: adding Before= doesn't work; now the interface isn't up anymore after boot is finished
Jun 11 19:45:12 <JaMa|Off> morphis: yes GTA04A4
Jun 11 19:45:38 <morphis> ok
Jun 11 19:46:14 <morphis> rndis is still after networking http://paste.debian.net/173991/
Jun 11 19:46:53 <morphis> anyway I have to leave
Jun 11 19:46:54 <morphis> gn8
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Jun 11 23:56:06 <jeepingben> has anyone in the US received a GTA04 yet?
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