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Jun 19 07:49:08 <CIA-76> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07meta-smartphone * r82d710631f7c 10/meta-openmoko/conf/machine/om-gta04.conf: meta-openmoko: om-gta04: bump MACHINE_KERNEL_PR to rebuild with better postinst
Jun 19 08:05:30 <CIA-76> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rf2a199cab4c2 10/packages/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/opkg-utils/ (7 files in 7 dirs): packages: Build 201206190952 of shr 20120619 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild
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Jun 19 13:14:05 <CIA-76> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07morphis/hfp * rb6fb2cfa4fa7 10cornucopia/libfsotransport/fsotransport/basetransport.vala: libfsotransport: basetransport: make class members available for child classes
Jun 19 13:14:07 <CIA-76> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07morphis/hfp * rc2e3254a79bf 10cornucopia/libfsotransport/fsotransport/unix.vala: libfsotransport: unix: some minor improvements for correct file descriptor handling
Jun 19 13:14:08 <CIA-76> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07morphis/hfp * r67ac762fc4d9 10cornucopia/fsogsmd/src/plugins/modem_hfp_hf/modem.vala: fsogsmd: modem_hfp_hf: keep a reference to the socket otherwise our file descriptor will be closed
Jun 19 14:54:32 <mickey_office> morphis: hi. out of interest… why did you move to delegate classes in libfsotransport and then back again?
Jun 19 16:02:08 <morphis> mickey_office: as I find it the cleaner solution to have a delegate class instead of a delegate method
Jun 19 16:02:26 <morphis> hm, mickey_office is already gone ..
Jun 19 16:51:06 <GNUtoo> hi DocScrutinizer 
Jun 19 17:31:35 <DocScrutinizer51> GNUtoo: hi
Jun 19 17:33:27 <GNUtoo> DocScrutinizer, hi,
Jun 19 17:33:52 <GNUtoo> i've a problem ;
Jun 19 17:34:16 <GNUtoo> i broke again my flex cable...
Jun 19 17:34:27 <GNUtoo> for gta02...
Jun 19 17:35:37 <DocScrutinizer51> damn
Jun 19 17:35:41 <GNUtoo> and buying the full debug board is very inefficent...,
Jun 19 17:35:46 <DocScrutinizer51> we had plenty
Jun 19 17:36:10 <GNUtoo> indeed....
Jun 19 17:36:23 <DocScrutinizer51> I brought like 2p from TPE, but sent them on elsewhere
Jun 19 17:36:31 <DocScrutinizer51> 20
Jun 19 17:36:35 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 19 17:37:00 <DocScrutinizer51> maybe ask Nikolaus?
Jun 19 17:37:08 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 19 17:37:32 <GNUtoo> thanks
Jun 19 17:38:43 <GNUtoo> so you don't have the cables anymore ...
Jun 19 17:39:09 <DocScrutinizer51> I'll look if I still have more than one left over
Jun 19 17:39:18 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 19 17:39:25 <DocScrutinizer51> but odds are that I dont
Jun 19 17:39:33 <GNUtoo> ok
Jun 19 17:41:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok back home
Jun 19 17:41:33 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> btw do you know how to use flashrom with a debug board?
Jun 19 17:42:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because I've no idea on how to wire it
Jun 19 17:45:14 <DocScrutinizer51> use flashrom?
Jun 19 17:46:20 <DocScrutinizer51> sorry, no clue what's flashrom
Jun 19 17:46:53 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: i've used flashrom with an Olimex arm ocd debugger
Jun 19 17:47:08 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I wanted to document the openmoko debug board with flashrom
Jun 19 17:47:12 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: so it should be nearly the same for that debug board as it's ft-based too.
Jun 19 17:47:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> flashrom is a software for flashing BIOS chips
Jun 19 17:47:21 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: hey hey
Jun 19 17:47:22 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> like SPI chips
Jun 19 17:47:31 <DocScrutinizer51> hi hi
Jun 19 17:47:51 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: not only bios, any spi rom, i used it to transfer firmware for my tp-link AP to a bigger flash. 
Jun 19 17:47:54 <DocScrutinizer51> mhm
Jun 19 17:47:54 <PaulFertser> :)
Jun 19 17:48:01 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> or coreboot....
Jun 19 17:48:31 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because I've 3 debug boards and paulk which gave me one needs a BIOS/coreboot flasher
Jun 19 17:48:54 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: yes, that should be possible, with only little hacking if any.
Jun 19 17:49:14 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> first question on the setup:
Jun 19 17:49:21 <DocScrutinizer51> well, the basic idea always same: use JTAG boundary scan to set adr bus, databus, clocks etc so the flashing happens
Jun 19 17:49:22 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> does it need an openmoko or just the debug board
Jun 19 17:49:50 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> (does it uses ftdi bitbanging or the openmoko SPI)
Jun 19 17:50:22 <DocScrutinizer51> bitbang
Jun 19 17:50:35 <DocScrutinizer51> afaik
Jun 19 17:50:40 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: flashrom works on bare spi layer, with ft232 it just bitbangs spi
Jun 19 17:50:57 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 19 17:51:14 <DocScrutinizer51> mhm
Jun 19 17:51:18 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: iirc the om debug board has testpoints to allow you to connect to the flash chip directly, no need for the gta02 itself.
Jun 19 17:51:21 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so now there is the configuration A and B, I can find the correct one looking in the source code but I've no idea how to wire the FTDI
Jun 19 17:51:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> there is SPI written on the board tough
Jun 19 17:51:43 <PaulFertser> According to http://flashrom.org/trac/flashrom/browser/trunk/ft2232_spi.c the openmoko debug board is supported.
Jun 19 17:51:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes it is
Jun 19 17:52:04 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but it's how to wire it that is unknown to me
Jun 19 17:53:04 <DocScrutinizer51> check schematics on my ppl.om
Jun 19 17:53:24 <DocScrutinizer51> it's pretty self-explanatory
Jun 19 17:53:39 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 19 17:53:47 <DocScrutinizer51> iirc
Jun 19 17:58:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok I'm looking at it here:
Jun 19 17:58:22 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: i suggest you use the same connections as these: http://flashrom.org/images/e/ee/Openbiosprog-spi-schematics-0.1.png
Jun 19 17:58:24 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf
Jun 19 17:59:10 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I guess I also need 3.3v and not 5v
Jun 19 17:59:20 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> thanks a lot
Jun 19 18:01:58 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: vcc3 is suitable, you've got it from the U3 ldo.
Jun 19 18:02:52 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: think J1 has everything you need to connect an spi flash.
Jun 19 18:03:17 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 19 18:03:21 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so it's not J11
Jun 19 18:03:29 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> that explain why v2 is supported....
Jun 19 18:03:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> J11 is absent on v2
Jun 19 18:05:56 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> what's best between J11 and J1?
Jun 19 18:06:06 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because J11 seem to have SPI stuff in it
Jun 19 18:06:25 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ahh ok
Jun 19 18:06:30 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it's SPI from the phone
Jun 19 18:06:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> not from the debug board itself
Jun 19 18:07:39 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: yep, confirmed, you need to attach it to J1 the same as http://flashrom.org/FT2232SPI_Programmer#Olimex_ARM-USB-TINY.2F-H_and_ARM-USB-OCD.2F-H
Jun 19 18:08:02 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: and it's the same as the previous link i gave you.
Jun 19 18:08:10 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 19 18:09:43 <PaulFertser> And it matches the pin numbers of the olimex programmer because J1 was routed for exactly the same: programming via JTAG via a standard 20pin connector.
Jun 19 18:10:44 <PaulFertser> Not only have i used flashrom but also provided a minor contribution: my olimex programmer has an additional buffer ic which needed to be enabled by pulling low some additional ft2232 pin.
Jun 19 18:10:52 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes 
Jun 19 18:11:02 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 19 18:11:08 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> thanks a lot!!!!
Jun 19 18:11:31 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: hth, good luck, please report how it goes, please ask him to add the results to the wiki :)
Jun 19 18:11:45 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I've write access to the wiki already
Jun 19 18:11:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so I'll just edit the wiki
Jun 19 18:12:26 <PaulFertser> Nice :)
Jun 19 18:12:35 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ( I did the arduino uno flasher and the bug-device based one too)
Jun 19 18:13:05 <PaulFertser> Cool
Jun 19 18:58:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> Found Winbond flash chip "W25X80" (1024 kB, SPI) on ft2232_spi.
Jun 19 18:59:02 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> nice seem to work
Jun 19 18:59:07 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> now....benchmarks
Jun 19 19:06:41 <PaulFertser> GNUtoo-hplaptop: yay!
Jun 19 20:40:33 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> morphis, hi, it seem that http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/688 is fixed now
Jun 19 20:45:01 <morphis> GNUtoo-hplaptop: great, thanks a lot for testing
Jun 19 20:45:27 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> np
Jun 19 20:46:16 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> PaulFertser, http://flashrom.org/FT2232SPI_Programmer#Openmoko thanks a lot!!!
Jun 19 20:53:15 <CIA-76> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07morphis/hfp * r710a393be135 10cornucopia/fsogsmd/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsogsmd: lib: at: implement AT+CIND command
Jun 19 20:53:16 <CIA-76> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07morphis/hfp * rd44e518ee50c 10cornucopia/fsogsmd/ (src/lib/at/atcommands.vala tests/testatcommand.vala): fsogsmd: lib: at: implement AT+CMER command
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