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Jun 28 04:38:26 <IfgarO> Hi. I'd like to try SHR on top of Ubuntu on n900. I have no Idea how to start. It would be nice if you could provide a package repository but if you could point me to a tutorial or something that would help me do so it would be also ok.
Jun 28 04:47:07 <CIA-69> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * ra4ee3e39bfd9 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/at/atsms.vala: fsogsmd: lib: at: force SMS PDU mode otherwise SMS support is disabled
Jun 28 04:47:08 <CIA-69> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * r9eeb3dbfabb4 10/fsogsmd/src/lib/ (at/atsms.vala sms.vala): fsogsmd: lib: provide property for our sms handler to indicate wether SMS is supported
Jun 28 04:47:08 <CIA-69> freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07cornucopia * rb0d96fc30c10 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics/types.vala: 
Jun 28 04:47:08 <CIA-69> freesmartphone.org: libfsobasics: add a wrapper class for typed arrays to use it as type parameter
Jun 28 04:47:08 <CIA-69> freesmartphone.org: Something like HashTable<int,int[]> is not possible today in vala so we have to use some
Jun 28 04:47:09 <CIA-69> freesmartphone.org: wrapper class to use an array as type parameter. Thats what TypedArrayWrapper does.
Jun 28 04:52:24 <IfgarO> there is actually shr stuff in ubuntu but it is probably not working on n900, is it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libphone-ui-shr
Jun 28 12:25:37 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, hi
Jun 28 12:26:54 <ccxCZ> GNUtoo-hplaptop: hi there
Jun 28 12:27:14 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, for keys you means the ones near the trackball?
Jun 28 12:27:54 <ccxCZ> indeed. also only left 'alt' works
Jun 28 12:28:46 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the keyboard works?
Jun 28 12:29:08 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> note that the keyboard configuration is upstream in x-keyboard-config
Jun 28 12:29:32 <ccxCZ> the regular alphanumerics, shift and the specials via left alt all work (except for tab on q)
Jun 28 12:29:42 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> tab somehow works
Jun 28 12:29:44 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> try xterm
Jun 28 12:29:47 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it works there
Jun 28 12:29:52 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but not on vala-terminal
Jun 28 12:30:30 <ccxCZ> moment, I'll have to boot it first
Jun 28 12:37:34 <ccxCZ> xterm: not found
Jun 28 12:38:32 <ccxCZ> same w/ x-keyboard-config. I guess that's core only
Jun 28 12:38:57 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> opkg install it of course
Jun 28 12:39:14 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> x-keyboard-config is the project holding the keyboard configuration
Jun 28 12:39:21 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it's where to make changes
Jun 28 12:39:30 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I guess it's installed by default
Jun 28 12:41:33 <ccxCZ> humm, I would have to get it online first then
Jun 28 12:42:06 <ccxCZ> can I do that via usb?
Jun 28 12:44:10 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes
Jun 28 12:44:17 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> look at the openmoko wiki
Jun 28 12:44:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it contains howto on how to do that
Jun 28 12:44:35 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but since it's shr-unstable the ip address of the phone is:
Jun 28 12:44:41 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> 192.168.0.202
Jun 28 12:46:22 <ccxCZ> hmm, no CONFIG_USB_USBNET on lappy, will have to recompile
Jun 28 12:54:30 <ccxCZ> haha, getting panic w/ the new kernel
Jun 28 12:56:06 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> let me look
Jun 28 12:58:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking#Linux_Kernel_Support
Jun 28 13:33:09 <ccxCZ> ok, I'm in via ssh now, doing opkg update
Jun 28 13:35:46 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 13:35:59 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, btw did you start porting to shr-core yet?
Jun 28 13:37:23 <ccxCZ> not yet, something in the recipes was broken
Jun 28 13:38:36 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I know what to do
Jun 28 13:38:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the first thing to do is get an armv6-novfp patch upstream
Jun 28 13:39:04 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> then the rest is mostly import stuff
Jun 28 13:39:13 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> *importing
Jun 28 14:09:50 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, also note that in shr-core some stuff was already added such as machine config, kernel etc ...
Jun 28 14:10:03 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> we also switched to systemd recently
Jun 28 14:10:11 <ccxCZ> :/
Jun 28 14:10:14 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so you'll need to ajust the kernel config accordinly
Jun 28 14:10:56 <ccxCZ> not really much time for playing around with it now. still can't find out the x-keyboard-config thing, xterm installed fine
Jun 28 14:10:59 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> also shr-core is maintained,shr-unstable is not
Jun 28 14:11:14 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> x-keyboard-conifig is part of xorg
Jun 28 14:11:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it is already installed
Jun 28 14:11:33 <ccxCZ> definitely not in path
Jun 28 14:11:42 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it's some config files
Jun 28 14:11:42 <ccxCZ> I only get x-window-manager
Jun 28 14:11:45 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> for the keyboard
Jun 28 14:11:51 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it's not a program
Jun 28 14:12:10 <ccxCZ> so how do I find & edit them?
Jun 28 14:12:24 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> opkg list | grep keyboard
Jun 28 14:12:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> then opkg files it
Jun 28 14:12:57 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> when doing the keyboard config for upstream I simply ran make in the source dir
Jun 28 14:13:05 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> no cross-compiler was needed
Jun 28 14:13:17 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so download the git at xorg
Jun 28 14:13:20 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> make inside it
Jun 28 14:13:38 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the big problem is that shr-unstable *is not maintained*
Jun 28 14:13:52 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so you won't be able to send your changes back into shr-unstable
Jun 28 14:14:08 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it would probably go in shr-core automatically if you send them upstream tough
Jun 28 14:17:37 <ccxCZ> gtg. I'll see what I can do with it, installed xev and stuff
Jun 28 14:17:50 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 16:00:35 <ccxCZ> GNUtoo-hplaptop: so I managed to get some basic xmodmap going, having ctrl on camera, esc on back & tab on search
Jun 28 16:00:51 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 16:00:57 <ccxCZ> is there some meta-package for compiler stuff, autotools, etc.?
Jun 28 16:01:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> if you want to send the config upstream no need for a cross compiler
Jun 28 16:01:25 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> download x-keyboard-config git
Jun 28 16:01:31 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> modify it
Jun 28 16:01:32 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> run make
Jun 28 16:01:36 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> scp the files to the phone
Jun 28 16:01:40 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and restart Xorg
Jun 28 16:01:42 <ccxCZ> I think I'd like to replace windowmanager with something keyboard-driven, like wmii
Jun 28 16:01:51 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ah ok
Jun 28 16:01:56 <ccxCZ> no packages for that afaik
Jun 28 16:01:58 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> here comes the problem
Jun 28 16:02:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> you're on an old unsuported version of openembedded
Jun 28 16:02:28 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> some stuff is probably broken
Jun 28 16:02:35 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> like because of compiler changes etc...
Jun 28 16:03:02 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so the easiest way is to port to shr-core
Jun 28 16:03:09 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> *part of it is already in shr-core*
Jun 28 16:03:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so there is not a lot to do
Jun 28 16:03:40 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I even pointed you to a patch for shr-core
Jun 28 16:03:42 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> oops
Jun 28 16:03:58 <ccxCZ> *shrug* in the end I'll probably end up with my own build and I'll probably go for gentoo/arm or alpine anyway
Jun 28 16:04:03 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I even pointed you to a patch for openembedded-core that does exactly what you want: an armv6-novfp patch
Jun 28 16:04:12 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> that's even harder
Jun 28 16:04:25 <ccxCZ> so I want to see just what apps I can get here running as intermediate system
Jun 28 16:04:28 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> you would need to redo the port for gentoo basically
Jun 28 16:04:58 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> since you know gentoo....
Jun 28 16:04:58 <ccxCZ> so what do I need, custom kernel, patch for toolchain?
Jun 28 16:05:04 <ccxCZ> can do that
Jun 28 16:05:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> are you able to write ebuilds
Jun 28 16:05:37 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because yocto/openembedded/shr recipes are nearly the same
Jun 28 16:05:40 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> a bit different tough
Jun 28 16:06:08 <ccxCZ> I know they basically forked gentoo portage, yeah
Jun 28 16:06:16 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 16:06:27 <ccxCZ> but I don't really like the overall choices in OE/shr-core
Jun 28 16:06:37 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> then do a layer
Jun 28 16:06:47 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> or a new image
Jun 28 16:06:49 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> or something like that
Jun 28 16:07:10 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the best would be to leverage SHR to create your own stuff
Jun 28 16:07:16 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so way less work to do
Jun 28 16:07:55 <ccxCZ> not sure, I'd really throw most of the stuff out and replace it with gentoo/alpine packages, like openrc etc.
Jun 28 16:08:28 <ccxCZ> so it seems to me that packaging kernel & toolchain for gentoo/alpine is the easiler path
Jun 28 16:08:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> for gentoo you'll need to port;
Jun 28 16:08:39 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> *all FSO recipes
Jun 28 16:08:47 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> * to write or port the SHR telephony apps
Jun 28 16:08:47 <ccxCZ> not interested, not a phone
Jun 28 16:08:50 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> etc...
Jun 28 16:08:51 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ah ok
Jun 28 16:09:08 <ccxCZ> or well, not interested in using it as a phone
Jun 28 16:09:12 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> if you're not interested in a phone it may be easier
Jun 28 16:09:15 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but still
Jun 28 16:09:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> all power management etc...
Jun 28 16:09:22 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> is not standard
Jun 28 16:09:26 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> we handled that in fso
Jun 28 16:09:29 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but fso is dbus
Jun 28 16:09:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> *has a dbus interface
Jun 28 16:09:46 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so you'll probably end up porting fsodeviced + fsousaged
Jun 28 16:09:52 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> + some other fso deamons
Jun 28 16:10:06 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and write a minimal dbus interface
Jun 28 16:10:16 <ccxCZ> or rewriting the functionality to something more unix-like
Jun 28 16:10:22 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> good luck
Jun 28 16:10:28 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because the kernel is hard
Jun 28 16:10:35 <ccxCZ> so ... what about answering my original question? :-)
Jun 28 16:10:41 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> what was it?
Jun 28 16:10:56 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> <ccxCZ> is there some meta-package for compiler stuff, autotools, etc.?
Jun 28 16:11:02 <ccxCZ> yes
Jun 28 16:11:04 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> you mean on the phone?
Jun 28 16:11:07 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> or on gentoo?
Jun 28 16:11:16 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> or on your gentoo laptop?
Jun 28 16:11:18 <ccxCZ> on the shr-unstable
Jun 28 16:11:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes 
Jun 28 16:11:26 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> there is 
Jun 28 16:11:31 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> opkg list | grep symlink
Jun 28 16:11:41 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> you'll find stuff like gcc symlink
Jun 28 16:11:42 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and such
Jun 28 16:11:57 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I'm not sure about the meta-package
Jun 28 16:12:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I think there is no meta-package but individual packages, but I'm not sure
Jun 28 16:12:27 <ccxCZ> I know debian had some, something like development-tools or so
Jun 28 16:12:43 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> or the buils-essentials on ubuntu and derivatives
Jun 28 16:13:16 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> why do you need a compiler btw?
Jun 28 16:13:22 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> is it for bootstraping gentoo?
Jun 28 16:13:39 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> if so can't you use crossdev?
Jun 28 16:13:54 <ccxCZ> just for setting up small stuff like the wm
Jun 28 16:14:00 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because compiling on the phone would be quite slow
Jun 28 16:14:05 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ah ok
Jun 28 16:14:10 <ccxCZ> yeah, figured
Jun 28 16:14:12 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> is the wm easy to compile
Jun 28 16:14:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because with the deps etc...
Jun 28 16:14:24 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it would become hard
Jun 28 16:14:29 <ccxCZ> wmii & dwm are *tiny*
Jun 28 16:14:31 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> better poting gentoo then
Jun 28 16:14:32 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 16:14:56 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> then it might be doable but painless
Jun 28 16:15:02 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> *painfull
Jun 28 16:15:21 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because you'll need to find the gcc and such packages
Jun 28 16:15:26 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> what about a gentoo chroot?
Jun 28 16:17:35 <ccxCZ> well, gentoo chroot won't be of much use until I get binpkgs running, but I guess that's the way until I port necessary stuff to run it pure
Jun 28 16:17:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes
Jun 28 16:18:07 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> running it pure would be doable easily too I guess
Jun 28 16:18:20 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> you'll just need to build a kernel within gentoo
Jun 28 16:18:29 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and point to the gentoo rootfs
Jun 28 16:18:38 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> like root=/dev/mmcblk0p1
Jun 28 16:18:44 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> with gentoo beeing on the microsd
Jun 28 16:20:05 <ccxCZ> yeah, still will have to get the powermanagement working somehow
Jun 28 16:21:25 <ccxCZ> though I guess only things I need are turning gsm off on start, toggles for wifi/gps/bt and hopefully make it s2ram and wake up again
Jun 28 16:21:48 <ccxCZ> but that might be challenge with shr too, since it does not recognise the power key
Jun 28 16:32:08 <ccxCZ> GNUtoo-hplaptop: I assume you don't know how to make it wake up on specific event (power button pressed, keyboard open, etc.) Last time I had to pull the battery to make it reboot
Jun 28 16:32:42 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, 1) do you really need GSM?
Jun 28 16:32:50 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> 2) I do
Jun 28 16:33:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> 2) is in fsousaged
Jun 28 16:33:21 <Alex[sp3dev]> what device are you guys talking about?
Jun 28 16:33:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> there is an android plugin
Jun 28 16:33:25 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> htc dream
Jun 28 16:33:46 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, wants to use it as a mobile computer and not as a phone
Jun 28 16:34:00 <ccxCZ> I don't use gsm at all, no sim card in
Jun 28 16:34:27 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, so you'll probably need GSM off but you could do that later
Jun 28 16:34:29 <Alex[sp3dev]> that's not a bad idea per se. but I'm fairly sure openembedded is one huge PITA and he's better off using debian
Jun 28 16:34:29 <ccxCZ> unless I turn the gsm off it goes crazy searching for networks, in droid at least
Jun 28 16:34:40 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> Alex[sp3dev], he wants gentoo
Jun 28 16:34:47 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and  something like dwm
Jun 28 16:34:51 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> titled-like
Jun 28 16:35:00 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> his dm is called wmii tough
Jun 28 16:35:10 <Alex[sp3dev]> yeah, I used to be a wmii fan
Jun 28 16:35:15 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 16:35:20 <Alex[sp3dev]> until i bought a second monitor
Jun 28 16:35:26 <ccxCZ> I'm on xmonad now
Jun 28 16:35:30 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I never had the time to switch to titled
Jun 28 16:35:40 <ccxCZ> but that might be bit overkill for such device
Jun 28 16:35:47 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> last time I tried xmonad
Jun 28 16:35:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and network-manager didn't work well with it
Jun 28 16:36:04 <ccxCZ> xmonad is code-your-own
Jun 28 16:36:13 <ccxCZ> you need an external app for tray
Jun 28 16:36:18 <ccxCZ> I use trayer
Jun 28 16:36:22 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ah ok
Jun 28 16:36:31 <Alex[sp3dev]> so what's the problem in using a gnu distro? bt is controlled by rfkill, wifi - by rmmod/modprobe. just write a shell script and put it to nopasswd sudo
Jun 28 16:36:48 <ccxCZ> or you can use one of these taskbars for fluxbox/openbox
Jun 28 16:36:59 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the htcdream kernel is not-so standard
Jun 28 16:37:04 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> everything can be done trough shell
Jun 28 16:37:07 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but still.....
Jun 28 16:37:14 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> who is going to do that
Jun 28 16:37:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> modprobe wl1251_sdio
Jun 28 16:37:20 <ccxCZ> o/
Jun 28 16:37:25 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> morporobe msm_wifi
Jun 28 16:37:36 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> rfkill unblock wifi
Jun 28 16:37:39 <ccxCZ> can put it into dmenu or stuff, writing scripts is the easy part
Jun 28 16:37:43 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ifconfig wlan0 up
Jun 28 16:37:43 <Alex[sp3dev]> I'm fairly sure wl1251_sdio is a bad thing and for dream it's better to use tiwlan
Jun 28 16:37:46 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> etc....
Jun 28 16:38:05 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes at least it's more standard
Jun 28 16:38:09 <Alex[sp3dev]> I spent some months debugging wl1251 and ended up porting sdio stack from linux 3.0 to 2.6.35 and fixins some 2 bugs in mmc
Jun 28 16:38:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes I had no time to do that
Jun 28 16:38:34 <Alex[sp3dev]> wl1251 has a lot of suspend issues. I fixed them on kovsky, but it is still slow and doesn't show rssi
Jun 28 16:38:40 <lindi-> I'm just bisecting wpasupplicant :)
Jun 28 16:38:41 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I had to port forward the kernel
Jun 28 16:38:45 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I didn't do it
Jun 28 16:38:48 <lindi-> wifi is complicated business
Jun 28 16:39:28 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> lol indeed
Jun 28 16:39:30 <ccxCZ> eek, there's no locale by default
Jun 28 16:39:36 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I've issue with every android phoen with wifi
Jun 28 16:39:40 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> first htcdream
Jun 28 16:39:43 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> then bcm4329
Jun 28 16:39:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> (nexus one and nexus S)
Jun 28 16:42:17 <lindi-> bisect done :)
Jun 28 17:05:45 <ccxCZ> yay, dwm and dmenu compiled
Jun 28 17:14:42 <ccxCZ> hmm, why does it ignore shell I set up in /etc/passwd? I set it to /usr/bin/zsh but ssh still logs in to sh (why it's in usr anyway)
Jun 28 17:23:53 <ccxCZ> GNUtoo-hplaptop: which git repo is fsousaged in?
Jun 28 17:24:07 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ccxCZ, cornucopia
Jun 28 17:25:01 <ccxCZ> ah, it's vala
Jun 28 17:25:18 <ccxCZ> lowlevel_android I presume
Jun 28 17:27:17 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes
Jun 28 17:27:30 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> you'll have to test if the current version still work
Jun 28 17:27:47 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because it was not tested on htcdream since a long time ago at shr-unstable times
Jun 28 17:27:59 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> else just revert the changes made for the nexus S
Jun 28 17:29:19 <ccxCZ> well, so far looking at it it seems trivial enough to rewrite to shell
Jun 28 17:30:04 <ccxCZ> so, how would I set the proper wakeup events, here on shr-testing?
Jun 28 17:30:58 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> basically it works that way
Jun 28 17:31:13 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> do you know how wakelocks work?
Jun 28 17:31:53 <ccxCZ> on droid? fwiu apps hold locks and when the last lock is released the device is put to sleep on inactivity
Jun 28 17:32:10 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> let me explani then
Jun 28 17:32:17 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> because it's at lower level
Jun 28 17:32:42 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> basically the phone will suspend if no wakelocks is held
Jun 28 17:32:50 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> if a wakelock is held
Jun 28 17:32:56 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> like the music wakelock for instance
Jun 28 17:33:04 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the screen will power off etc...
Jun 28 17:33:11 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but it won't really suspend
Jun 28 17:33:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> now....
Jun 28 17:33:36 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> when you do echo mem > /sys/power/state the phone will power off the screen etc...
Jun 28 17:33:39 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but not suspend yet
Jun 28 17:33:50 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it will suspend when no more activity is present
Jun 28 17:34:10 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so to suspend, stop activity and echo mem > /sys/power/state
Jun 28 17:34:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so remove the wakelocks etc...
Jun 28 17:34:36 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> then to go back on you echo on  > /sys/power/state
Jun 28 17:34:43 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> now how does telephony suspend/resume work:
Jun 28 17:34:49 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the phone real-suspends
Jun 28 17:35:52 <ccxCZ> go on
Jun 28 17:35:58 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 17:36:02 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> now how does telephony suspend/resume work:
Jun 28 17:36:13 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> before suspending you run some code:
Jun 28 17:36:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> for instance a code that looks up for a key press 
Jun 28 17:36:34 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and does echo on > /sys/power/state when it's pressed
Jun 28 17:36:40 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> (that's what fsousaged does)
Jun 28 17:36:51 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> so then when the phone real-suspends
Jun 28 17:36:57 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the code will be suspended
Jun 28 17:37:02 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but when there is an event
Jun 28 17:37:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> such as a phone calls
Jun 28 17:37:36 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the kernel will tell the userspace in a sysfs or procfs node
Jun 28 17:37:59 <ccxCZ> can I set timer too? I'd like to have some cron/alarmclock/etc.
Jun 28 17:38:01 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> the userspace code will see that
Jun 28 17:38:09 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and will get the resume reason
Jun 28 17:38:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and will decide to resume or not
Jun 28 17:38:38 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> and when the event wakes up the phone, the userspace is in a mode such that it can run
Jun 28 17:38:45 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but screen is powered off
Jun 28 17:38:54 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> I've no idea about timer
Jun 28 17:38:58 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> we didn't look into it
Jun 28 17:39:01 <ccxCZ> k
Jun 28 17:39:18 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but I guess it should work with a bit of work
Jun 28 17:39:41 <ccxCZ> is this kernel/user interface documented somewhere?
Jun 28 17:40:19 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> only in source code
Jun 28 17:41:26 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> but if you're at it you can document it on fso wiki if you want
Jun 28 17:41:52 <ccxCZ> k, will see into that laters
Jun 28 17:42:24 <ccxCZ> now I'll try to xmodmap the power key to XF86PowerOff and see if it does anything
Jun 28 17:42:39 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ok
Jun 28 17:42:52 <ccxCZ> the key configuration screen is way too big to fit on the display :/
Jun 28 17:43:13 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ssh -Y maybe
Jun 28 17:43:54 <ccxCZ> what's the app name?
Jun 28 17:44:35 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> ?
Jun 28 17:44:39 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> what do you mean?
Jun 28 17:45:02 <ccxCZ> for the e configuration screen, or do I have to run whole wm for that?
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Jun 28 18:21:46 <CIA-69> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r9c7c4787fec7 10/ (21 files in 8 dirs): bitbake upgrade
Jun 28 18:21:47 <CIA-69> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * r0c70e230e2bc 10/ (326 files in 31 dirs): system upgrade
Jun 28 18:21:57 <CIA-69> SHR: 03Martin.Jansa 07shr-chroot * re3ad70a93671 10/ (577 files in 62 dirs): system upgrade
Jun 28 19:43:35 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rb5712bdde329 10/packages/om_gta02-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206282129 of shr 20120628 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild
Jun 28 20:05:50 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r36314a3ca0ca 10/packages/nokia900-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206282152 of shr 20120628 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild
Jun 28 20:20:47 <ccxCZ> GNUtoo-hplaptop: I can just flash shr's boot.fastboot onto the recovery partition and boot it instead of recovery, right?
Jun 28 20:21:03 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> yes right
Jun 28 20:21:12 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> that's the way to dual-boot
Jun 28 20:21:43 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> you've got boot,recovery and you can even boot without flashring trough fastboot boot ./boot.fastboot
Jun 28 20:21:58 <ccxCZ> good, I'll probably do that, now the system is actually pretty useable
Jun 28 20:22:14 <ccxCZ> yeah, booting via usb cable now
Jun 28 20:48:29 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r5554a7909e76 10/packages/armv4t-oe-linux-gnueabi/ (28 files in 28 dirs): packages: Build 201206282223 of shr 20120628 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild
Jun 28 21:18:24 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r9ae3f7a7bc3a 10/packages/armv7a-vfp-neon-oe-linux-gnueabi/ (28 files in 28 dirs): packages: Build 201206282257 of shr 20120628 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild
Jun 28 21:41:20 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r0212cd54e179 10/packages/om_gta04-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206282327 of shr 20120628 for machine om-gta04 on opmbuild
Jun 28 22:04:31 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r53266d04866c 10/images/crespo/eglibc/chroot-image/ (5 files): images: Build 201206282350 of shr 20120628 for machine crespo on opmbuild
Jun 28 22:04:41 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r1a321d2d96d5 10/packages/crespo-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206282350 of shr 20120628 for machine crespo on opmbuild
Jun 28 22:26:46 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r848b8f9a9e75 10/packages/palmpre-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206290013 of shr 20120628 for machine palmpre on opmbuild
Jun 28 22:49:20 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rb0988d5e0a13 10/packages/palmpre2-oe-linux-gnueabi/shr-version/ (latest shr-version/latest): packages: Build 201206290035 of shr 20120628 for machine palmpre2 on opmbuild
Jun 28 23:16:56 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * re18193952ccb 10/images/om_gta02/eglibc/shr-image/ (5 files): images: Build 201206290051 of shr 20120628 for machine om-gta02 on opmbuild
Jun 28 23:43:19 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * rdd8a3e38b41b 10/images/nokia900/eglibc/shr-image/ (5 files): images: Build 201206290120 of shr 20120628 for machine nokia900 on opmbuild
Jun 28 23:58:11 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> my rebuild completed today
Jun 28 23:58:23 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> mrmoku, hi
Jun 28 23:58:57 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> JaMa, do you remember how the following bug got resolved on gta02: it rings and then the call is silent, you disable the ring and it works
Jun 28 23:59:02 <GNUtoo-hplaptop> it hit gta04 too
Jun 29 00:08:34 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r43e4f2897200 10/images/om_gta04/eglibc/shr-image/ (5 files): images: Build 201206290145 of shr 20120628 for machine om-gta04 on opmbuild
Jun 29 00:33:35 <CIA-69> SHR: 03shr-devel 07buildhistory * r4621ddea17ea 10/images/crespo/eglibc/ (8 files in 2 dirs): images: Build 201206290210 of shr 20120629 for machine crespo on opmbuild
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