**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 13 03:00:02 2012 Oct 13 14:28:54 hey! Oct 13 14:33:43 slyon: heyho Oct 13 14:35:24 GNUtoo-desktop: ping Oct 13 14:35:39 slyon, hi Oct 13 14:35:42 morphis, hi Oct 13 14:36:05 if it's for the udev rule maybe you should PM me.... Oct 13 14:36:07 GNUtoo-desktop: you're back in italy? Oct 13 14:36:29 GNUtoo-desktop: you can just join #webos-ports or we talk here Oct 13 14:36:47 I prefer PM Oct 13 14:37:00 after we'll talk technical Oct 13 14:37:09 like in #webos-ports Oct 13 14:45:07 slyon: how is your debian packaging work going? Oct 13 14:45:42 morphis, GNUtoo-desktop: hi! Oct 13 14:45:51 morphis, well the most of it is done Oct 13 14:46:01 some basic stuff is already in sid Oct 13 14:46:07 slyon, we must talk a bit to coordinate stuff for the GTA04 Oct 13 14:46:46 morphis, i'm still awaiting the 0.12 release before pushing the new FSO stuff. and with the SHR stuff i'm blocked, because the E maintainer doesn't respond Oct 13 14:47:27 slyon: hm, yes the 0.12 release Oct 13 14:47:41 have to take a look whats missing and if we're ready for it Oct 13 14:47:50 GNUtoo-desktop, yes... what are top priority projects? in my opinion it would be good to get hw routing into 0.12. Oct 13 14:47:51 hmmm Oct 13 14:47:53 maybe 3g Oct 13 14:47:55 slyon: maybe you saw I am bit less active in fso the last weeks Oct 13 14:47:56 bluetooth Oct 13 14:48:10 some scenarios for bluetooth Oct 13 14:48:26 slyon, ah good, I have only A3 Oct 13 14:48:37 if there is stuff that should go into 0.12, please tell me! Oct 13 14:48:39 I'll try 3g Oct 13 14:48:42 yes Oct 13 14:48:46 morphis, yes. how is openwebos proceeding? have you any plans to bring it to the gta04? and use FSO? Oct 13 14:48:47 my last patches Oct 13 14:48:48 I will move things into the 0.12 branch then Oct 13 14:48:56 slyon: no, it will not use FSO ever Oct 13 14:48:58 GNUtoo-desktop, same here. i've only an A3 Oct 13 14:49:11 slyon: but porting it to the GTA04 should be possible Oct 13 14:49:14 but not by me Oct 13 14:49:15 morphis, it needs to be written, before getting into 0.12 :) Oct 13 14:49:21 ok Oct 13 14:49:22 slyon, webos requires non-free 3d for now, I was told there is hope for getting it obtimized tough Oct 13 14:49:39 yes, thats the thing we're limited too Oct 13 14:49:51 but everything else is in quite good shape and needs just integration work Oct 13 14:50:16 GNUtoo-desktop, hmm the sgx reverse engineering project seems to make good process Oct 13 14:50:28 slyon, ah? at what point are they? Oct 13 14:51:01 I'll test 3g and make it fails I guess Oct 13 14:51:15 http://listas.gnu.org.ve/pipermail/powervr-devel/2012-October/000054.html Oct 13 14:51:25 GNUtoo-desktop, one guy has pretty much reverse engineered the ISA. so it should be possible to write an (dis)assembler: http://gnu.org.ve/pipermail/powervr-devel/2012-October/000054.html Oct 13 14:51:42 ok Oct 13 14:51:57 this is a quite big step IMO Oct 13 14:52:18 morphis, hmm so what is openwebos using? ofono? Oct 13 14:52:21 slyon: yes, but that it is still years away from being usable Oct 13 14:52:32 hmm Oct 13 14:52:42 slyon: can't speak for openwebos Oct 13 14:52:47 but for webos-ports we will use ofono Oct 13 14:52:58 right, that's what i meant Oct 13 14:53:29 but I know HP is interested a lot in the work we do in the webos-ports project :) Oct 13 14:54:36 morphis, but you're still interested in FSO, right? or is it now less relevant, as all "major" project use anything else? Oct 13 14:54:51 slyon: I still like the FSO idea Oct 13 14:55:44 but I have to shift my work a bit as I want something I can use and webos-ports is the best opportunity right now Oct 13 14:56:07 slyon: I am more in a maintenance mode for FSO Oct 13 14:56:24 will pick up things and commits and get the release out Oct 13 14:56:29 but thats it for now Oct 13 14:56:32 ok Oct 13 14:56:40 maybe that will change Oct 13 14:56:49 slyon, do sms work well with the GTA04.... Oct 13 14:57:06 GNUtoo-desktop, they used to work very well Oct 13 14:57:15 ah ok Oct 13 14:57:26 when I power on the phone all the sms on my sim comes up Oct 13 14:57:47 GNUtoo-desktop, only thing missing was recognizing sms in suspend, but I implemented this quite some time ago Oct 13 14:57:59 ok Oct 13 14:58:23 GNUtoo-desktop, yes, thats because they aren't saved on your filesystem yet. it should only be on the very first boot Oct 13 14:58:24 I'll try 3g right now, when it's booted(I rebooted after adding DEBUG to fsogsmd.conf) Oct 13 14:58:41 slyon, btw do you use tslib or evdev for the touchscreen? Oct 13 14:58:45 (except you have your sms storage in a /tmp directory) Oct 13 14:58:54 ok Oct 13 14:58:58 it says sim is full.... Oct 13 14:59:24 GNUtoo-desktop, at the moment i'm using evdev. but i'd like to use tslib, as plain evdev has a lot of jitter. but I didn't have time to tweak the config Oct 13 14:59:36 same here Oct 13 14:59:43 GNUtoo-desktop, that's another problem... you need to clean the sim manually AFAIK Oct 13 14:59:44 I tried tslib and it was worse under Xorg Oct 13 14:59:59 altough ts_test seemed to be fine Oct 13 15:01:36 there was a mail on some ML about good tslib results on the GTA04 Oct 13 15:01:40 i need to findt it... Oct 13 15:01:50 yes I know Oct 13 15:01:57 but I was unable to reproduce the fix Oct 13 15:02:09 I had even more jitter with tslib Oct 13 15:03:17 hmm... there are some different libts versions Oct 13 15:03:26 yes Oct 13 15:03:44 e.g. the on in debian testing and the one from lindi. dunno which one is used in OE Oct 13 15:04:13 [ 349.017425] NETDEV WATCHDOG: hso0 (hso): transmit queue 0 timed out Oct 13 15:04:16 hmmm Oct 13 15:04:28 [ 349.208984] net hso0: Tx timed out. Oct 13 15:05:53 10.7.255.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 hso0 Oct 13 15:05:55 hmmm Oct 13 15:06:02 but.... Oct 13 15:06:06 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 hso0 Oct 13 15:06:26 GNUtoo-desktop, i'll try the hw-validation image (which is using tslib) and compare it to shr (evdev), once i find the time Oct 13 15:06:53 not sure if it's a good idea Oct 13 15:06:58 because the kernel is different Oct 13 15:07:00 why not? Oct 13 15:07:05 because the kernel is different Oct 13 15:07:06 hmm, true Oct 13 15:08:15 I can't connect to 3g Oct 13 15:09:58 i never tried 3g... as i don't have an mobile internet contract Oct 13 15:12:19 ok Oct 13 15:12:46 I've a special one only for developement: I pay per day of usage.... Oct 13 15:12:59 and I never uses it apart for testing it Oct 13 15:13:06 so it doesn't cost a lot Oct 13 15:14:22 http://pastie.org/private/bxeqwpu1ntvr1ur0zrweg Oct 13 15:14:34 it's like 1E the day but only if you use it Oct 13 15:15:02 sounds strange: Oct 13 15:15:09 inet addr:151.57.180.19 P-t-P:151.57.180.19 Mask:255.255.255.0 Oct 13 15:15:24 there was that in crespo too Oct 13 15:15:26 hmm Oct 13 15:15:39 it was strange because the remote address was the same than the local one.... Oct 13 15:20:56 [ 1371.007965] hso 1-2:1.5: failed mux_bulk_tx_urb -1 Oct 13 15:21:00 is that normal? Oct 13 15:21:07 i've no idea Oct 13 15:25:07 2000-01-03T04:04:16.804931Z [DEBUG] libfsotransport : SRC: "_OWANDATA?" -> [ "_OWANDATA: 1, 10.255.250.215, 0.0.0.0, 212.52.97.25, 193.70.152.25, 0.0.0.0, 0.0.0.0,144000", "OK" ] Oct 13 15:25:19 hmmm Oct 13 15:25:24 many 0.0.0.0 Oct 13 15:26:31 could be secondary DNS, etc Oct 13 15:29:46 morphis, btw. did you anytime have strange problems with one of your Palm Pre's suddenly powering off it self? mine seems to be slowly dieing... Oct 13 15:30:32 var str = """_OWANDATA: (?P[01]), (?P[0-9.]+), (?P[0-9.]+), (?P[0-9.]+), (?P[0-9.]+), (?P[0-9.]+), (?P[0-9.]+),(?P\d+)"""; Oct 13 15:31:09 so gateway is 0.0.0.0 like I suspected Oct 13 15:31:36 gateway doesn't look good Oct 13 15:31:38 yes Oct 13 15:31:58 I've the same on crespo if I remember well Oct 13 15:32:11 paulk-desktop, hi Oct 13 15:32:38 hi Oct 13 15:33:09 where should it get the gateway from? Oct 13 15:33:23 on crespo we use the local ip addr as gateway Oct 13 15:33:30 ok Oct 13 15:34:02 are we even sure that 0.0.0.0 is the gateway? Oct 13 15:34:10 it could be the netmask Oct 13 15:34:32 let me check Oct 13 15:35:55 hmmm theses supposed dns servers are unreacheable from non-3g Oct 13 15:37:19 paulk-desktop, hmmm I already tried that and retried right now I can't ping anything with the ip as gateway Oct 13 15:37:22 altough I've that: Oct 13 15:37:27 inet addr:10.255.250.215 P-t-P:10.255.250.215 Mask:255.255.255.0 Oct 13 15:37:32 so it might be right Oct 13 15:37:33 on gta04 I presume? Oct 13 15:38:05 I haven't tried data on gta04, so don't know much Oct 13 15:38:12 ok Oct 13 15:38:36 datasheet says: result: IP, Gateway, DNS1, Oct 13 15:38:36 DNS2, NBS1, NBS2, Speed; Oct 13 15:38:36 should be used for an ifconfig Oct 13 15:38:51 yes that's what's used Oct 13 15:38:56 and using 0.0.0.0 doesn't work? Oct 13 15:39:00 datasheet means? Oct 13 15:39:04 let me look Oct 13 15:39:08 gta04 system manual Oct 13 15:39:18 0.0.0.0 10.255.250.215 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 hso0 fails Oct 13 15:39:33 ouch Oct 13 15:39:47 what about 10.255.250.254 ? Oct 13 15:39:47 route add default gw 0.0.0.0 => SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument Oct 13 15:39:50 that's commonly used Oct 13 15:40:52 ah usb reset Oct 13 15:40:54 ok let me try Oct 13 15:44:10 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 hso0 Oct 13 15:44:59 still doesn't work Oct 13 15:46:32 ouch Oct 13 15:46:46 it used to work Oct 13 15:49:14 151.44.132.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 hso0 Oct 13 15:49:21 I'll change the gateway Oct 13 15:51:38 151.44.132.0 151.44.132.101 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 hso0 still fails Oct 13 15:52:39 slyon: not that I can remember Oct 13 15:53:10 morphis, ok. will see if i can find the root cause of this... or if i switch to the gta04 finally :) Oct 13 15:55:02 :) Oct 13 15:55:12 I have a Pre 3 now as my primary phone Oct 13 15:55:15 it's really nice Oct 13 15:55:36 i like my pre 2 a lot. but this bug is really bad Oct 13 15:56:08 slyon: does the kernel log show anything? Oct 13 15:56:29 morphis, dunno. i didn't investigate a lot up to now Oct 13 15:57:14 http://pastie.org/private/nw3iqomkgl1x9ygr2ftwq still doesn't work Oct 13 15:58:22 slyon: ok, maybe the problem is known Oct 13 15:59:15 morphis, slyon what problem? Oct 13 15:59:18 morphis, yes i foundsomething about pushing a piece of paper between the battery and the case, so the battery can't loose contact Oct 13 15:59:22 GNUtoo-desktop, something about the palmpre Oct 13 15:59:27 ah ok Oct 13 16:17:20 paulk-desktop, is there a way to see routes in replicant 2.3 beside cat /proc/net/route Oct 13 16:17:23 ? Oct 13 16:17:37 with busybox I think Oct 13 16:17:42 busybox route Oct 13 16:17:43 ah right Oct 13 16:33:06 64 bytes from 208.118.235.131: seq=4 ttl=42 time=379.302 ms Oct 13 16:33:07 hmmm Oct 13 16:33:13 this time it worked out of the box Oct 13 17:01:30 I guess theses were hardware issues Oct 13 17:01:45 or bad modem issues Oct 13 17:20:53 pespin, hi Oct 13 17:21:19 GNUtoo-desktop, hi there ) Oct 13 17:21:29 pespin, are you still using SHR? Oct 13 17:21:49 becuase I've some issues with music playing Oct 13 17:21:52 GNUtoo-desktop, no time to develop nor use it these days I'm afraid. Oct 13 17:21:56 ok Oct 13 17:22:06 gta04 works nearly fine Oct 13 17:22:08 but I can have a look depending o nwhat I'm needed for :) Oct 13 17:22:14 ok Oct 13 17:22:32 maybe it's better if you do emtooth2 then Oct 13 17:22:58 I got a paid job some months ago so I have no time now to spend it here. Hope to have more time in the future :) Oct 13 17:23:05 ok Oct 13 17:23:15 as I'm still willing to help here Oct 13 17:23:22 ok Oct 13 17:23:35 what problems are you having with emtooth2? Oct 13 17:23:38 I'll bother you when If I need your bluetooth expertise then Oct 13 17:23:41 none yet Oct 13 17:23:48 ok, perfect Oct 13 17:23:51 apart that audio doesn't work out of the box Oct 13 17:23:58 does it still compile fine? (eflvala + emtooth2) Oct 13 17:24:09 (basically same problems than before)_ Oct 13 17:32:35 yes Oct 13 17:32:37 compile yes Oct 13 17:32:40 run no idea Oct 13 17:32:53 I'll see when I add bluetooth to gta04 Oct 13 17:33:00 because on tuna I had some issues Oct 13 18:03:31 GNUtoo-desktop: I know you can help me :) Oct 13 18:03:42 GNUtoo-desktop: what is the main difference between brcmfmac and bcmdhd wireless drivers? Oct 13 18:03:52 second one comes from broadcom and first one too? Oct 13 18:04:02 morphis, hmmm I don't know Oct 13 18:04:07 ok Oct 13 18:04:09 I know only brcmfmac.... Oct 13 18:05:56 ok Oct 13 18:06:03 it's developed by broadcom too? Oct 13 18:06:12 the by the opensource community? Oct 13 18:11:33 GNUtoo-desktop: ah ok, according to linuxwireless.org brcmfmac is from broadcom too Oct 13 18:11:38 and part of the linux kernel Oct 13 18:12:06 morphis, yes both are from broadcom Oct 13 18:12:56 ok Oct 13 18:13:10 maybe they target different chips Oct 13 18:18:23 ok Oct 13 20:17:27 morphis, btw do you know why alsa is disabled in SHR? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 14 03:00:02 2012