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Dec 21 11:13:28 <DocScrutinizer05> SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN! SUN!  MOOOAAAR SUN!
Dec 21 11:16:27 <stefan_schmidt_w> DocScrutinizer05: Right even west of London I can see some sun right now. :)
Dec 21 11:20:12 <DocScrutinizer05> hey!!! stefan!
Dec 21 11:20:22 <stefan_schmidt_w> DocScrutinizer05: hey!!! :)
Dec 21 11:20:36 <pabs3> DocScrutinizer05: come to Perth, we have 39°C on Tuesday, plenty of sun too
Dec 21 11:21:01 <Thamos> Here the snow is melting :(
Dec 21 11:21:03 <asdfuser_w> Heh, someone's in a good mood
Dec 21 11:21:06 <DocScrutinizer05> well, since a few minutes I hope for sun here in Germany as well
Dec 21 11:21:23 <asdfuser_w> DocScrutinizer05: You're coming to the Congress?
Dec 21 11:21:29 <DocScrutinizer05> nope
Dec 21 11:21:55 <DocScrutinizer05> no tickets, no holiday, no time, no health to gamble with
Dec 21 11:22:00 <asdfuser_w> bummer
Dec 21 11:22:04 <asdfuser_w> k
Dec 21 11:22:49 <DocScrutinizer05> in descending order
Dec 21 11:23:25 <DocScrutinizer05> (sun in germany) eventually
Dec 21 11:23:51 <DocScrutinizer05> trend turned around
Dec 21 11:24:12 <stefan_schmidt_w> DocScrutinizer05: get the sun rolling. We will hit the road in 4h to do the 10h road trip to germany. I want to have sun tomorrow.
Dec 21 11:24:56 <DocScrutinizer05> dunno, it's just on a general way up into the sky since 11:12 UTC
Dec 21 11:25:49 <DocScrutinizer05> and I wonder where to celebrate longest night with fire and all, in ~6h
Dec 21 11:26:46 <DocScrutinizer05> though I wonder if longest night maybe been the one from yesterday to today...?
Dec 21 11:27:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, that depends on longitude
Dec 21 11:27:42 <DocScrutinizer05> for me it's next night
Dec 21 11:27:59 <DocScrutinizer05> in Greenich it's been last night
Dec 21 11:28:12 <DocScrutinizer05> haha
Dec 21 11:28:43 <asdfuser_w> We'll get two longest nights
Dec 21 11:28:45 <asdfuser_w> ha
Dec 21 11:29:26 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I guess it's always the night closest to actual time/date of solstice
Dec 21 11:29:49 <DocScrutinizer05> for germany (UTC+1) that's next night
Dec 21 11:30:12 <DocScrutinizer05> while in Greenich (UTC) it been last night
Dec 21 11:31:01 <DocScrutinizer05> you got one global time&date of solstice, but virtually infinite number of nights on any time on this globe
Dec 21 11:31:38 <DocScrutinizer05> moving a few km to east or west makes for a differnet night than where I am
Dec 21 12:02:23 <GNUtoo-desktop> stefan_schmidt_w, hi
Dec 21 12:21:10 <aloniv> hello. i'm having trouble installing pidgin-otr using openmoko toolchain. i managed to package it but it segfaults when run. couldn't package newer pidgin (om-configure and make work but the packaging command can't find some files).
Dec 21 12:24:42 <GNUtoo-desktop> gdb?
Dec 21 12:28:50 <aloniv> tried it
Dec 21 12:30:55 <aloniv> /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 
Dec 21 12:31:14 <aloniv> program received sigserv
Dec 21 12:31:27 <aloniv> *signal SIGSERV
Dec 21 12:31:30 <GNUtoo-desktop> how do you gdb?
Dec 21 12:31:36 <GNUtoo-desktop> because I do it like that:
Dec 21 12:31:47 <GNUtoo-desktop> with gdbserver  + gdb on my computer
Dec 21 12:31:52 <aloniv> installed on freerunner including pidgin-gdb
Dec 21 12:32:01 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
Dec 21 12:32:12 <aloniv> and ran according to pidgin instructions
Dec 21 12:32:21 <GNUtoo-desktop> usually that won't work because the freerunner has only 128M of RAM
Dec 21 12:33:13 <aloniv> gdb did crash enlightenment
Dec 21 12:33:31 <aloniv> but clicking "repair" or "recover" fixed it
Dec 21 12:34:10 <aloniv> anyway the segfault is probably because of old version of pidgin
Dec 21 12:34:47 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
Dec 21 12:34:57 <GNUtoo-desktop> do you need a tutorial for gdb+gdbserver?
Dec 21 12:35:05 <aloniv> unfortunately new version gave errors after compile and make (during packaging), i.e. couldn't find desktop icon...
Dec 21 12:35:07 <aloniv> sure
Dec 21 12:35:31 <aloniv> but i'm guessing since the pidgin version is so old it is better to try to upgrade it isn;t it?
Dec 21 12:35:36 <GNUtoo-desktop> http://www.elinux.org/GDB
Dec 21 12:37:57 <aloniv> the last error i got was
Dec 21 12:38:01 <aloniv> ./purple.schemas no such file
Dec 21 12:38:35 <aloniv> maybe i need some more dev files
Dec 21 12:38:57 <aloniv> (installing libotr required more packages on host rather than on toolchain)
Dec 21 12:39:21 <aloniv> how can i tell where the dev files should be installed?
Dec 21 12:47:56 <GNUtoo-desktop> do you have libpurple?
Dec 21 12:48:14 <GNUtoo-desktop> I've no idea, I don't know your setup
Dec 21 12:49:20 <aloniv> on host or toolchain?
Dec 21 12:52:50 <aloniv> the setup is gnewsense 2.3 dual boot with one of the precompiled toolchains.
Dec 21 12:53:53 <GNUtoo-desktop> I've to go unfortunately
Dec 21 12:53:59 <GNUtoo-desktop> arm version I guess
Dec 21 12:56:16 <aloniv> ok thanks
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