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May 31 17:28:28 <ayaka> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m, I decide to buy a Exynos 4412  devboard to use its hardware encode
May 31 17:28:48 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ah?
May 31 17:28:57 <ayaka> becuase there is not devboard's SoC support hardware encode
May 31 17:29:14 <ayaka> I mean video hardware encode
May 31 17:29:23 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> did you check that it can be accessed with free software before?
May 31 17:29:31 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> because else it will be impossible to use 
May 31 17:29:36 <ayaka> yes
May 31 17:29:41 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ok
May 31 17:29:59 <ayaka> no, cannot be accessed with free software
May 31 17:30:33 <ayaka> I mean there is a free software kernel for similar devboard(odroid)
May 31 17:31:27 <ayaka> but for hardware encode and decode, Samsung even don't tell us in datasheet
May 31 17:33:16 <ayaka> you know , mainline kernel has supported mfc
May 31 17:33:37 <ayaka> but the devboard is too cheap, only 499yuan($81)
May 31 17:34:31 <ayaka> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m, that is all I know, so I ask you for final decision
May 31 17:34:56 <ayaka> that devboard is not for me, I buy it to take part in competition
May 31 17:37:15 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> what's the point of buying a devboard for hardware encoding that you will probably never be able to make work becasue it's non-free not documented etc...
May 31 17:37:31 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> + it has non-free signed bootloader
May 31 17:37:48 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> which makes things harder
May 31 17:41:10 <ayaka> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m,  non-free signed bootloader?
May 31 17:41:25 <ayaka> it offer u-boot, doesn't it?
May 31 17:41:43 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> yes, after the non-free part
May 31 17:41:45 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> you have:
May 31 17:41:53 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> bootrom->non-free-part->uboot
May 31 17:42:03 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> bootrom is hardware so we don't care
May 31 17:42:09 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> but non-free part is clearly software
May 31 17:42:22 <ayaka> I don't know that at all
May 31 17:43:04 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> if you have more restrictions like for instance it will boot from nand first 
May 31 17:43:24 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> and that you alter (accidentally for instance) that signed part
May 31 17:43:30 <ayaka> but about software encode, maybe it will work well? As it is quard core with 1.5Ghz
May 31 17:43:30 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> it will brick the board
May 31 17:43:37 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> yes possible
May 31 17:43:50 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> if it's quad-core 1.5GHz that might work well
May 31 17:44:24 <ayaka> then finally, for its price, is it cheap enough?
May 31 17:46:04 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I think so
May 31 17:46:09 <ayaka> and about bootloader, how do you know that? I didn't find it in user manual
May 31 17:46:31 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> because it's the case for every exynos device
May 31 17:46:38 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> bbl
May 31 17:47:03 <ayaka> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m, thank you
May 31 18:12:51 <ayaka> I forget one thing, is it BeagleBone Black a better choice?
May 31 18:14:11 <ayaka> it doesn't have hardware encoder at all, does it software encoder can encode 480P h.264 video
May 31 18:42:36 <ayaka> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m, if you have more devboards recommanded which are lease than $100, please tell me
May 31 18:58:35 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> ayaka, for beaglebone black it seem more freedom friendly
May 31 18:58:42 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> but that's all I know
May 31 18:58:47 <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> you should check it
May 31 19:03:07 <ayaka> GNUtoo-m4a785t-m, thank you
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