**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 01 02:59:58 2013 Aug 01 05:09:16 jolla seems intertesting, I wonder whether I can install gnu linux in it easily as it doesn't release hardware now Aug 01 06:58:44 I'm not really sure but it does slowly start to sound like they're going the "Android layer" route as well, for the drivers' sake Aug 01 06:58:59 I can see how it may be hard to convince hw makers to do non-Android Linux drivers Aug 01 06:59:38 but when the Android is made smaller and smaller "module", the system starts to resemble more and more GNU/Linux in the traditional sense Aug 01 06:59:59 like Ubuntu which now switched to booting Ubuntu kernel instead of Android kernel, and using the latter via lxc.. Aug 01 07:01:28 Tizen, if it materializes, might change the picture with the money it has behind it Aug 01 07:26:14 Mirv: I read somewhere Tizen is being abandoned by Samsung Aug 01 07:30:48 pabs3: yeah, I've read that rumor, but it's just a rumor so far Aug 01 07:31:05 but without them it's at this point just smaller players like Jolla and Canonical Aug 01 07:31:13 Firefox OS was I guess happy with Android anyway? Aug 01 07:31:38 it seems like mobile is almost entirely based on rumours Aug 01 07:31:53 yes **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 02 02:59:58 2013