**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 08 02:59:58 2013 Nov 08 03:26:03 fling: depends on how many people want one Nov 08 03:27:04 DocScrutinizer05 can give you estimates I guess Nov 08 08:10:41 500-700 Nov 08 08:10:53 for the board Nov 08 09:49:21 fling: ^ Nov 08 10:05:17 DocScrutinizer05: ok, I want it. I will be able to donate at the end of december :> Nov 08 10:05:28 pabs3: thanks ;} Nov 08 10:06:07 radekp: Hello. Will be qtmoko working on neo900? Nov 08 10:06:17 fling: you're welcome - any time Nov 08 10:06:35 fling: i hope so :) Nov 08 10:06:38 DocScrutinizer05: Do I need an used n900 phone for this mobo, right? Nov 08 10:07:02 no, we offer complete devices as well Nov 08 10:07:10 oh! ok :> Nov 08 10:07:14 fling: although i dont have neo900 ordered, so i wonder if someone else will do the port or if someone can provide neo900 for me... Nov 08 10:08:07 radekp: we will hand out a very limited number of early prototypes Nov 08 10:08:13 radekp: It needs to be put on maillist :D Nov 08 10:09:06 DocScrutinizer05: nice - it would be nice for me to try it - i dont want to buy until i know that power management is working decenly Nov 08 10:09:12 DocScrutinizer05: will neo900 use case-kit from n900? or will it use other components? Nov 08 10:09:17 DocScrutinizer05: once i know it works i'll buy :) Nov 08 10:09:40 fling: btw it took me 15 minutes to launch qtmoko on N900 Nov 08 10:09:48 radekp: omg! Nov 08 10:09:49 fling: of course without modem Nov 08 10:10:11 radekp: take a photo of it :D Nov 08 10:10:34 radekp: we'll port fremantle which is known to do proper PM on a very similar architecture - it doesn't suspend-to-ram ;-) Nov 08 10:10:47 radekp: btw is it possible to use gta04 serial port to connect to a hard drive? Nov 08 10:10:48 on GTA04 it was working even with modem in like a week - but then you have to do the remaining 10% of work which took 2 years :) Nov 08 10:11:16 DocScrutinizer05: i am very interested in fremantle too - i have to say i love the os Nov 08 10:11:40 DocScrutinizer05: IMO it's great plan with fremantle Nov 08 10:11:59 in the above statement "we" != GolDeliCo Nov 08 10:12:08 radekp: may I connect gta04 to this serial? > http://www.kwikpiks.com/files/18/MSFN%20Seagate%20topic/05.jpg Nov 08 10:12:17 there's the Fremantle Porting Task Force, a community effort, to do this Nov 08 10:12:42 fling: yay - no idea i am not HW guy Nov 08 10:12:58 ok :> Nov 08 10:13:18 fling: we use original N900 spare parts or even dismantle and recycle refurbished N900 Nov 08 10:13:20 DocScrutinizer05: btw i tried suspend to ram on N900 and it works too Nov 08 10:13:29 radekp: yes, I know Nov 08 10:13:34 radekp: great! Nov 08 10:13:42 but it's not needed Nov 08 10:13:51 DocScrutinizer05: it can save like 1.2 mA if i measured it correctly Nov 08 10:14:12 the power gain is marginal and wake from suspend is awkward, and modem doesn't cooperate (unsolicited msgs) Nov 08 10:14:31 yeah, roundabout that much Nov 08 10:14:31 oki Nov 08 10:14:36 DocScrutinizer05: what modem will be used in neo900? will not it be option modem? Nov 08 10:14:57 the option801 is not available Nov 08 10:15:16 roundsolutions told us to better look for another product Nov 08 10:15:27 radekp: where to find a h/w guy who will tell me about rs232 on gta04? Nov 08 10:16:40 fling: ask on gta04 mailing list? Nov 08 10:16:48 radekp: good idea… Nov 08 21:47:39 hello, does anybody know a good android dev channel ? I am getting an error using JacORB in eclipse ide: "ORB.init(null,System.getProperties());" Error: Description Resource Path Location Type The type java.applet.Applet cannot be resolved. It is indirectly referenced from required .class files MainActivity.java /CorbaClient/src/de/normanschleicher/corbaclient line 23 Java Nov 08 21:48:38 I know this is the wrong channel but I hope to get a good advice to another channel Nov 08 21:53:41 Hi, is somebody running a mainline kernel (e.g. 3.12) on the GTA02 and can provide a .config? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 09 02:59:58 2013