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Jul 28 12:54:07 <antrik> DocScrutinizer05: Firefox OS is basically just a browser-based UI layer for Android -- I don't think there is much NiH there
Jul 28 12:54:25 <antrik> (which is why they got it to marked three times faster than any other "new" mobile OS...)
Jul 28 12:55:18 <antrik> Ubuntu Phone is mostly about getting the existing desktop Ubuntu working on mobile; so I wouldn't say it is all NiH either
Jul 28 12:56:01 <antrik> (though I guess at least the Mir part falls into this category -- unless there is a really good reason why they did this, which I haven't heard yet...)
Jul 28 12:57:22 <antrik> Sailfish is built on Mer, so not much NiH either. (except the UI of course)
Jul 28 12:58:14 <antrik> what worries me more is not NiH, but rather the propensity of certain projects to switch technology every year. OM was the very worst in that regard.
Jul 28 13:08:05 <pabs3> Ubuntu Phone relies on Android bits too, IIRC they rely on Android forks of the Linux kernel for hardware support. There are Android userland parts too and they are put into an LXC container
Jul 28 13:08:38 <pabs3> everyone is in the same boat re hardware support though
Jul 28 13:24:29 <antrik> I know
Jul 28 13:24:51 <antrik> everyone except Samsung ;-)
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