**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 13 02:59:59 2015 Aug 13 12:41:05 [02freesmartphone.github.io] 07tapir starred 03freesmartphone.github.io - 13http://git.io/v3ryE Aug 13 19:06:48 I have a GTA02 running a fairly old SHR, which just recently "lost" the list of apps on its main screen Aug 13 19:07:18 that is to say that the app list is empty (just a grey background with no app icons) Aug 13 19:07:49 any ideas for how I might be able to get the app icons back? (is this the right place to ask?) Aug 13 19:17:47 ossguy: hi Aug 13 19:21:08 generally deleting ~/.e might help (though all your enlightment related settings are lost) Aug 13 19:22:56 jake42: thanks for the tip - I'll give that a shot Aug 13 19:23:34 ossguy: are you using the gta02 as a daily phone? Aug 13 19:23:36 I suspect there are no Enlightenment settings that I care about Aug 13 19:24:55 jake42: I use it mainly for recording GPS traces Aug 13 19:24:58 ie. when I'm hiking Aug 13 19:25:13 awesome :-) Aug 13 19:25:21 using tangoGPS Aug 13 19:25:33 so far it's the phone with the best GPS receiver I've found Aug 13 19:25:56 that's... interesting Aug 13 19:26:00 love the program (also the fork foxtrottGPS) Aug 13 19:26:04 GPS is rather flaky for me Aug 13 19:26:06 I don't even use an external antenna and it's great Aug 13 19:26:15 I mean "best" among other smartphones Aug 13 19:26:18 the internall antenna is f**in huge :-) Aug 13 19:26:23 (though maybe that's because it's an old revision? IIRC there were some issues) Aug 13 19:26:29 compared to other smartphones Aug 13 19:26:59 antrik: there was an issue with the interference from the sdcard bus Aug 13 19:27:54 so when mmc-bus is not active it should be fine Aug 13 19:27:54 jake42: yeah, but the odd thing is that on SHR, it worked better for me when installing on SD than on internal flash... unless that was just coincidence Aug 13 19:28:17 antrik: strange Aug 13 19:28:58 and with QtMoko on internal, until recently I was convinced it wasn't working either, until I discovered by coincidence that it actually does work -- after like 10 minutes or so to get a fix Aug 13 19:30:14 antrik: yeah, the remember some have always had problems with gps on different distributions Aug 13 19:30:29 must have been lucky Aug 13 19:31:20 for a long time I have been torn between trying to get a newer revision, or giving up on this toy alltogether and getting something more alive... Aug 13 19:31:27 though current SHR has also a buggy GPS interface, as two daemons are rival about the gps port Aug 13 19:31:46 s/rival/rivaling/ Aug 13 19:31:46 jake42 meant: though current SHR has also a buggy GPS interface, as two daemons are rivaling about the gps port Aug 13 19:32:04 current SHR? as far as I'm aware SHR is pretty much dead for quite a while already... Aug 13 19:32:32 current as in last released testing Aug 13 19:32:51 hm... not sure when that was Aug 13 19:33:04 January 7 2015 Aug 13 19:33:12 oh Aug 13 19:33:22 that's... kinda surprising Aug 13 19:34:06 I don't suspect it's much different though from a couple of years back, when it was broken in multiple ways and considerably less functional than QtMoko or older SHR versions I ran in 2009 or so... Aug 13 19:34:28 yep, still a whole lot of bugs needed fixing Aug 13 19:34:43 though it's usable as a daily phone to an extend Aug 13 19:35:02 that's what really frustrated me about SHR: it was never really getting better. just moving the breakage from place to place Aug 13 19:35:30 really? it didn't to me last time I tried Aug 13 19:35:36 didn't seem Aug 13 19:36:13 i'm using shr on my gta02 as a daily phone since ~2009 Aug 13 19:36:17 hm... actually there might have been some improvements in the mean time now that I think of it -- I have been completely out of the loop for a while Aug 13 19:36:53 (and when I came back the project was pretty much dead... though it seemed to be rather detoriating already before) Aug 13 19:37:10 I submitted 2-3 patches for stuff that was really annoying for me Aug 13 19:37:44 yeah it's pretty dead Aug 13 19:38:29 though it's fine for voice,text,ssh and gps Aug 13 19:38:33 well, I did use it for a couple of weeks back in 2009 or so. but then I had a long pause; and when I got the phone again a year or two later, I concluded that some things are better, but others are worse Aug 13 19:38:48 I tried QtMoko instead, which was much more usable Aug 13 19:38:54 mostly fine, sometimes it crashed Aug 13 19:39:38 yes, qtmoko is much more polished, but I always liked SHR better for some reason Aug 13 19:46:23 any advice for a newish gta04 owner for compiling a kernel with some options/modules enabled like usb networking so i can update pkgs in the shr release and dummy battery module so i have batt monitoring for other unfancy chip batterys (this i could do with in the android kernel too ;) .), etc etc Aug 13 19:46:41 im also a kernel compiling newbie too ;) Aug 13 19:47:53 been looking at the wiki but need to do a bit more... even then not had success yet Aug 13 19:52:00 also is it me but when i make calls in replicant/android img i get wired kinda like crackling, breakage, gaps for the personal im calling hearing me and for me hearding them... i think, my memory is rough Aug 13 20:04:52 arossdotme: (replicant, voice quality) lukas sent mail with a possible workaround today Aug 13 20:05:27 jake42, mailing list? Aug 13 20:06:10 arossdotme: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/2015-August/006671.html Aug 13 20:07:54 jake42, arr, woop! ...every reboot :( arr well Aug 13 20:08:09 progress :D thats the main thing Aug 13 20:08:43 it's great to see lukas working steadly on replicant Aug 13 20:09:13 yep Aug 13 20:09:16 I gather he gets paid a few hours a month to work on it Aug 13 20:09:23 shame that andorid needs so much ram Aug 13 20:09:30 arr Aug 13 20:10:03 some £££ converted into time, that helps :) Aug 13 20:10:34 yes, I guess it's from the donations made to goldelico Aug 13 20:10:40 now if i was a millionaire... well i dream for now mwhahaha Aug 13 20:11:34 you could afford a team building your dreamphone Aug 13 20:11:52 the overloads phone yet free for all hehe Aug 13 20:12:00 wait. there's neo900 :-) Aug 13 20:12:14 every body a overload of them selfs then Aug 13 20:13:57 yea have a 100% free software $device is kinda enabling you to be a overload of yourself wabou/then it comes to your phone, meaning your the overload of your robot in your pocket not someone else :) Aug 13 20:14:41 wabou/then = about/when Aug 13 20:15:03 whois overloading who? Aug 13 20:15:49 looks like lukas has already found a possible solution for the voice problem Aug 13 20:15:50 like in control of your self and your life but wording it like being a overload of your self Aug 13 20:15:51 http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-replicant/issues/693/#ic2168 Aug 13 20:16:51 does it have to do something with "overlord" Aug 13 20:17:18 im just having a bit of fun Aug 13 20:17:53 always a good thing :-) Aug 13 20:19:00 hehe so yea voice bug is not related to being a overload of ones self Aug 13 20:19:25 * jake42 is gonna go out and try to find a spot where gta04 will register to network Aug 13 20:19:39 arossdotme: no not at all :-) Aug 13 20:19:45 greatly looking forward to the next release Aug 13 20:20:02 jake42, arr ok Aug 13 20:20:30 it will be fun baffling ppl with a strangelooking phone running android Aug 13 20:20:36 once it works decently Aug 13 20:21:31 pssss lukas(whats his irc name?) when you do the new relese, please also enable the dummy battery kernel module ;D Aug 13 20:21:45 yea looking forward to using mine day to day Aug 13 20:22:15 this nick is slyon but I don't think he's around much Aug 13 20:22:16 enable/compile Aug 13 20:22:36 thx Aug 13 20:23:06 diner is ready, see ya Aug 13 20:23:08 better drop him a mail if you got a request Aug 13 20:23:11 cu Aug 13 20:23:13 oh Aug 13 20:23:28 whats his email... hhmmm Aug 13 20:24:01 oow hes got a blog Aug 13 20:24:37 arr got his email Aug 13 20:24:45 good Aug 13 20:26:05 bon appétit Aug 14 00:06:55 used http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#Building_the_2.6.32_branch and the toolchain wiki page but i get error... Aug 14 00:07:03 Makefile:114: *** multiple target patterns. Stop. Aug 14 00:07:14 copyed my .config into kernel dir Aug 14 00:08:44 ran this before: . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env ;export ARCH="arm" ;export CROSS_COMPILE="arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-" ;make menuconfig **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 14 02:59:58 2015