**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 17 02:59:58 2016 May 17 10:21:58 rah: no, that really is the point. Matrix doesn't fulfull the outlined criteria, because of the missing fallback May 17 10:23:04 and he is wondering why nobody can come up with something that has this fallback making it a viable choice, *and* fulfills the other criteria too May 17 10:32:46 antrik: this is the entirety of Garrett's comment: "Nobody I know is using Matrix, which means it's really not convenient." May 17 10:33:09 antrik: as you can see, he does not mention anything to do with fallback functionality May 17 10:37:41 antrik: regardless, as I said, I was noting the fact that Garrett's response to a comment assumes a different question to the question in the article May 17 10:38:47 antrik: I'm pointing out that Garrett's thinking and writing is problematic May 17 10:39:18 antrik: you keep saying "no but really, the point is about $something" without addressing the fact that Garrett's thinking and writing is problematic May 17 10:42:01 antrik: you don't seem to have paid any attention to what I've actually said and just responded as though I'm talking about some particular content May 17 19:15:42 rahc: his followup comments explain his position well enough. and frankly, I'm not interested pointless semantic discussions. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 18 02:59:58 2016