**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 22 02:59:58 2016 Jul 22 02:59:58 technical steering group, or whatever the debian equivalent to that Jul 22 03:01:12 re Snowden project: somebody should tell him about Neo900 ;-) Jul 22 03:01:40 we have a technical committee, but they only get involved in disputes: https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte Jul 22 03:02:44 so who _is_ this guy (function and affiliation) who declares armel EOL in this post? Jul 22 03:05:44 pabs3: could you please look into usb-id-request@lists.openmoko.org infra and fix the weekly >> Your membership in the mailing list usb-id has been disabled due to excessive bounces << Jul 22 03:06:42 pabs3: I don't understand how a ML at OM can see bounces form a OM mail addr Jul 22 03:07:04 Steve is a Debian member, ARM employee, DebConf16 ARM BoF organiser, Debian ARM porter Jul 22 03:07:25 haven't had time to look, sorry Jul 22 03:08:26 well, I assume he still works at ARM, not sure what will happen after the acquisition Jul 22 03:08:44 np, it will be sustainable for quite a few weeks more, but eventually I will miss to renew my subscription Jul 22 03:09:49 got a copy of one of the bounces? Jul 22 03:10:03 btw seems we managed to get at least a few of the USB ids into the most recent official files Jul 22 03:10:15 sure thing, where to send it to? Jul 22 03:12:02 err, sorry, no idea of the bounces themselves Jul 22 03:12:16 I don't see bounces of the ML Jul 22 03:12:42 and obviously mails I receive from the ML are prolly not bouncing :-) Jul 22 03:13:30 I suspect it's about graylisting in mail.openmoko.org Jul 22 03:13:39 hmm Jul 22 03:13:59 I just can forward the info mail from the ML Jul 22 03:14:13 I'm used to Debian mailing lists where it sends you a link to one of the bounce messages Jul 22 03:14:41 tell me a addr and I forward the info mail to you Jul 22 03:14:51 pabs3@bonedaddy.net Jul 22 03:15:12 sent Jul 22 03:18:47 iirc I also don't have an account on the mail server, so I can't loook up in logs Jul 22 03:20:12 ugh I do Jul 22 03:21:30 but no root permissions, so prolly no access to logs anyway Jul 22 03:23:08 $ ls -l /home|wc -l Jul 22 03:23:09 97 Jul 22 03:23:12 impressive Jul 22 03:41:01 I think I may have fixed it Jul 22 03:41:36 DocScrutinizer05: can you send a test mail to usb-id? Jul 22 03:43:13 sure Jul 22 03:50:53 aah I wondered... but my own mail doesn't get echoed to me Jul 22 03:51:04 so I sent two mails Jul 22 03:51:28 one bofus and one moderately relevant one Jul 22 03:52:39 btw are you faintly affiliated or neighbor of KiCAD? Jul 22 03:55:25 hmm looks normal and sane http://wstaw.org/m/2016/07/22/plasma-desktopkw2277.png Jul 22 03:55:33 oops ECHAN Jul 22 03:58:22 DocScrutinizer05: usually mail echoes is a per-user setting on mailman lists Jul 22 03:58:42 ok, my first bogus mail to ML actually echoed back to me Jul 22 03:58:51 took a while, so one more hint direction graylisting Jul 22 03:59:14 just a mail comes in Jul 22 04:00:03 yep, mail of 5:44 came in (5:59) Jul 22 04:01:14 poll rate might be 5 min, so a graylist or other processing delay of 10min seems taking effect Jul 22 04:01:37 dunno if that still arrived: yep, mail of 5:44 came in (5:59) Jul 22 04:02:51 delay of 10min to 15min **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 23 02:59:58 2016