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Dec 19 01:34:11 <pabs3> http://sunweavers.net/blog/node/51
Dec 19 02:13:03 <DocScrutinizer05> hmmm
Dec 19 02:19:58 <DocScrutinizer05> open hardware?  https://forum.fairphone.com/t/open-hardware-plugnplay/24103/2
Dec 19 02:22:58 <DocScrutinizer05> our idea od open hardware: http://neo900.org/stuff/kicad/proto_v2/2016-11-20/review-howto.html  http://neo900.org/resources  http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html
Dec 19 02:23:02 <DocScrutinizer05> of*
Dec 19 02:30:04 <DocScrutinizer05> https://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900/2016-12-18#18440487;
Dec 19 02:30:10 <DocScrutinizer05> ff
Dec 19 02:30:25 <DocScrutinizer05> and back from there
Dec 19 02:39:47 <DocScrutinizer05> on a sidenote: I got me an Cat S60 for evaluating that android stuff and also for the FLIR. Got me two prepaid SIM, and did really nothing except installing 3 free apps (htop, some crappy LED config tool that didn't work, and the - of course free - update for the FLIR app). Since five days I get calls on that phone from EOS, a nasty incasso troll. I wonder where the heck they even might got my number from, I didn't do a single 
Dec 19 02:39:48 <DocScrutinizer05> phonecall with that phone and didn't hand out my number
Dec 19 02:40:43 <pabs3> probably got your number from /dev/random
Dec 19 02:41:01 <pabs3> or typo of a nearby number
Dec 19 02:41:14 <DocScrutinizer05> not even to mention the constant nagging of android itself to update whoknowswhat friggin software like virus scanner and pdf viewer and bla bla bla. This stuff is so completely useless and unbearable
Dec 19 02:42:08 <DocScrutinizer05> of course not update but upGRADE, of course paid
Dec 19 02:43:47 <DocScrutinizer05> at random times - with a strong emphasis on midnight+/-, the damn thing thinks it needs to play a shitty fanfare since it accomplished dunnowhat, maybe virus scanner finished scanning an app and found it has *no* virus! HOORAY!
Dec 19 02:45:39 <DocScrutinizer05> don't even *dare* to enable that "ok google" thing "on every screen or when charging" - it literally every night eavesdrops on my for hours, pretending to "analyze music" after it took some random sound from TV for an "ok google" command
Dec 19 02:47:29 <DocScrutinizer05> reading the logs from my router (NAT sessions) is *real fun*. You wouldn't believe how often that thing "calls home" and where that "home" is
Dec 19 02:48:14 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm already worried how to protect my LAN from rogue activites from that shit device
Dec 19 02:49:46 <DocScrutinizer05> just one app seems completely unobtainium: a silly simple dropbear or opensshd so I could log in to that thing via my PC
Dec 19 02:50:30 <DocScrutinizer05> so yes, compared to THAT thing, the FP2 is maybe "open" in some regard
Dec 19 02:56:39 <pabs3> IoT is even more fun
Dec 19 02:57:14 <pabs3> pretty sure there is sshd stuff on fdroid
Dec 19 02:57:19 <DocScrutinizer05> on a faintly related sidenote: maemo+devuan cooperation results in almost ready for productive use maemo port to cheap tablets: https://github.com/fremantle-gtk3 et al
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