**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 29 03:00:00 2017 Jan 29 07:36:09 https://www.xda-developers.com/guide-installing-and-running-a-gnulinux-environment-on-any-android-device/ Jan 29 11:33:08 antrik: http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2009-June/022599.html Jan 29 11:33:39 antrik: Red Hat has been a problem for a long time Jan 29 11:35:00 "I still have not understood why it is that Red Hat is able to get away with so much while companies like canonical and SuSE get trashed so easily." http://libv.livejournal.com/27461.html Jan 29 11:35:04 I totally get that Jan 29 11:42:36 http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2009-June/022536.html Jan 29 14:34:15 when no sarcasm tags can help avoid a statement sounding like plain truth ;-P >> Didn't you know, it's world domination we are going for! We want to control your computer and then you... And we take away your freedoms<< Jan 29 14:40:45 whee https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/silent-circle-bricks-grey-market-blackphones-with-os-update/ Jan 29 15:59:21 pabs3: one of the many adorable consequences from the "leasing concept" Jan 29 16:03:29 though, to be honest, not even Neo900 could guarantee that *the modem* doesn't get bricked by a future firmware update provided by Gemalto which we possibly might ship/provide to customers one day. However customers are free to *not* flash that update to their modem. For the rest Neo900 is under 100% control of user and thus absolutely unbrickable Jan 29 16:04:33 does the modem not support modem-initiated OTA updates? Jan 29 16:05:19 btw, did folks catch that there are LTE modems that run Linux? http://osmocom.org/projects/quectel-modems/ Jan 29 16:10:58 pabs3: OTA updates. Not advertised as such, but we never know. I guess nowadays _every_ modem _technically_ can do OTA updates, whether active (poll) or triggered (SMS) or via exploit Jan 29 16:12:04 hmmmm, interesting, Zecke and Harald Jan 29 16:13:46 yeah, they are moving osmocom up into 3G/4G areas Jan 29 16:13:49 I'm not sure however how much sense this really makes for the end user. You *never* can have a legal full GNU-FOSS modem, it's simply not compatible with the certification requirements Jan 29 16:14:09 they aren't interested in that AFAICT Jan 29 16:14:26 of course they aren't, since they are totally aware :-) Jan 29 16:14:42 it's scientific research only Jan 29 16:14:56 ~seen zecke Jan 29 16:15:06 i haven't seen 'zecke', DocScrutinizer05 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 30 03:00:01 2017