**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 29 03:00:03 2017 Mar 29 09:27:16 https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/a-fully-free-cell-phone-experience-no-baseband-required/ Mar 29 10:11:11 HUH? Mar 29 10:11:28 early april's fool? Mar 29 20:38:40 pabs3: I thought that talk was ridiculous Mar 29 20:38:58 basically what he said was: use wifi Mar 29 20:39:19 and, in future, some things *handwave* Mar 29 20:40:00 to make use of TV white spaces needs 802.11af, which will require an appropriate radio Mar 29 20:40:30 of course, at present the only 802.11 radio with a free firmware only supports up to 802.11n Mar 29 20:41:17 we don't have a free radio that supports 802.11ac, let alone 802.11af Mar 29 20:42:09 the lower frequency ISM bands will be covered by 802.11ah (and other things like (the proprietary) lorawan), but again the same issue of lack of free firmware Mar 29 20:43:58 of course, the solution is to build our own phones and radios but if it were that simple, I would have been done already Mar 29 20:44:12 err.. s/I/it/ Mar 29 20:45:25 he just kind of tacks on the end "oh yes, and we need to build our own mobile OS and apps" like it's a small thing :-) Mar 29 20:46:13 Not impressed. Mar 29 23:14:23 I guess it is, compared to building our own baseband... which he didn't even consider being difficult either, so ... meh :] Mar 30 00:12:48 \o/ firmware-ath9k-htc (free WiFi firmware) accepted into Debian unstable! Mar 30 00:13:17 rah: does anything ever impress you? :) Mar 30 00:13:49 PaulFertser: thanks again for helping with firmware-ath9k-htc **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 30 03:00:01 2017