**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 29 03:00:04 2017 May 29 07:09:17 pabs3: thanks for sharing! May 29 07:11:23 contains lots of words I really didn't understand :) May 29 07:11:55 * PaulFertser too May 29 07:12:14 But now we know what to look for if the need arises to dig deeper. May 29 07:41:34 postmarketOS looks like yet another massive reverse engineering effort to me. Without any chance of success, given the past approaches we had for all kinds of more or less well documented hardware. Or am I missing something? May 29 07:43:41 I was talking about bunnie's RISC-V talk. May 29 07:55:10 mickeyl`: from the discussion I'm not sure they plan to do any reverse engineering, for eg "Regarding kernels and drivers, postmarketOS directly packages LineageOS kernels." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14427232 May 29 07:55:26 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14432950 May 29 08:14:17 [02vala-dbus-binding-tool] 07mickeyl pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13https://github.com/freesmartphone/vala-dbus-binding-tool/compare/36bfc54d8979...aa2fb268d70f May 29 08:14:18 [02vala-dbus-binding-tool] 07mickeyl 03aa2fb26 - lower vala requirement, builds fine with 0.30 (Not that it matters much though, since we don't need vala for a release build) May 29 08:20:27 pabs3: oh... so it's just an android kernel with another userland? What's the purpose of such a hybrid monster? May 29 08:20:59 and they need quite a lot of the android middleware, if they want their devices to actually work May 29 08:21:03 *shrug* May 29 08:21:31 yeah, the halium folks were ranting on #debian-mobile about that May 29 08:22:20 anything that doesn't aim for reverse engineering and *mainlining* is ridiculous IMO May 29 08:22:53 *nod* May 29 10:00:58 mickeyl`: you don't always necessarily need the whole android middleware May 29 10:01:27 (depending on the platform) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 30 03:00:04 2017