**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 19 03:00:01 2017 Sep 19 18:30:16 <_Chris_> Hello, why did openphoenux change the name? Sep 19 18:53:45 _Chris_: because nobody know how to spell/say/remember openphoenux Sep 19 18:54:20 s/know/knew/ Sep 19 18:54:21 rah meant: _Chris_: because nobody knew how to spell/say/remember openphoenux Sep 19 19:11:25 <_Chris_> That's sad. I liked the name and it was nice in combination with the logo. Sep 19 19:36:56 <_Chris_> So from what I have read, for the freerunner (GTA04) the best system for use as mobilephone (gsm, messaging) is qtmoko, is that right? Sep 19 19:43:01 GTA04 != freerunner Sep 19 19:58:27 <_Chris_> Right Neo 1973. Sep 19 20:23:26 <_Chris_> GTA04 fits into a existing GTA01(Neo 1973) or GTA02 (Freerunner), so that is right? Sep 19 20:41:01 into the case, yes Sep 19 20:41:20 <_Chris_> Right, that was what I meant. Sep 19 20:41:21 like Neo900 fits into the N900 case Sep 19 20:41:36 <_Chris_> Right, I was thinking about buying some N900 to start with. Sep 19 20:41:56 N900 is a very nice and open device Sep 19 20:42:08 <_Chris_> But N900 uses maemo still und Neo900 would be a nice update. Sep 19 20:42:27 <_Chris_> I can get a brand new N900. Sep 19 20:42:28 N900 can run a lot of OS Sep 19 20:42:40 well, several Sep 19 20:43:12 there was a semi-working SHR distro for N900 Sep 19 20:43:13 <_Chris_> Right, but what is recommended for regular and stable use of gsm and sms? Sep 19 20:43:20 maemo Sep 19 20:43:22 :-) Sep 19 20:43:26 <_Chris_> Right.... Sep 19 20:43:59 <_Chris_> But it is still the base of 2009, maemo 5, with some community bugfixes from time to time, is that right? Sep 19 20:44:01 actually CSSU Sep 19 20:44:11 yes Sep 19 20:44:16 ~cssu Sep 19 20:44:16 extra, extra, read all about it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) Sep 19 20:45:10 >>Latest version: Testing(2015-04-11): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11;<< Sep 19 20:45:53 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#Tmaemo11 Sep 19 20:46:01 <_Chris_> Right, I have read the former page already. Sep 19 20:46:32 <_Chris_> Is hildon still using GTK2 as base? Sep 19 20:47:27 yes, though lately some folks tried gtk3, I think it failed or stalled Sep 19 20:48:21 https://github.com/community-ssu Sep 19 20:49:39 <_Chris_> I don't like GTK3 for some reason. Sep 19 20:50:25 <_Chris_> DocScrutinizer05: What hardware are you using? Sep 19 20:50:31 N900 Sep 19 20:50:49 <_Chris_> Smile. Sep 19 20:50:54 IroN900:~# uptime Sep 19 20:50:56 22:51 10 Tage 6:21 an, 0 Benutzer, Durchschnittslast: 0,00, 0,03, 0,03 Sep 19 20:52:19 <_Chris_> And the freerunner, or Neo 1973? QtMoko? Sep 19 20:56:05 well, I got around one dozen, yeah. Some of them even with case Sep 19 20:56:33 I think most of them had SHR at times Sep 19 20:57:02 QtMoko never *really* met my idea of how a phone should look and feel Sep 19 20:57:45 ~joerg Sep 19 20:57:46 methinks joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org Sep 19 20:59:05 might add: and currently searching for a new job Sep 19 21:00:26 <_Chris_> DocScrutinizer05: Nice, you has to know about the N900 it seems. Sep 19 21:00:44 I know it by heart Sep 19 21:01:08 <_Chris_> That sounds nice. Sep 19 21:01:21 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/ ;-) Sep 19 21:03:42 <_Chris_> Nice, reminds me on my old android phone..... Sep 19 21:04:42 later I also worked on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NovaThor / https://www.extremetech.com/computing/103171-why-nokia-is-using-st-ericssons-novathor-arm-chip-instead-of-qualcomm Sep 19 21:07:52 <_Chris_> Nice, I had some chip in some samsung android phone I think. Sep 19 21:08:25 <_Chris_> There were different kernels for it I think, problem was that most drivers were never upstreamed or so. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 20 03:00:02 2017