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Nov 01 07:12:22 <DocScrutinizer05> MEH!  >>Plasma Mobile aims to become a complete software system for mobile devices. It is designed to give privacy-aware users back the full-control over their information and communication. <<
Nov 01 07:12:46 <DocScrutinizer05> Yet Another Software Ecosystem
Nov 01 07:12:55 <DocScrutinizer05> no thanks
Nov 01 07:13:57 <DocScrutinizer05> -EWRONGAPPROACH
Nov 01 07:15:27 <DocScrutinizer05> unix is made of system and middleware and UI building blocks, not of a "software system"
Nov 01 07:17:28 <DocScrutinizer05> ideally the apps all use a GUI toolkit and are agnostic of anything else, while the toolkit uses a window manager like (duh!) X11 and otherwise don't care, and the middleware and system take care about low level stuff like provising real time audio and scheduling and generally resource management
Nov 01 07:20:04 <DocScrutinizer05> we know it can get done (right) since maemo and SHR/FSO did it
Nov 01 07:22:00 <DocScrutinizer05> why does everything software nowadays prefer the monolithic approach?
Nov 01 07:22:47 * DocScrutinizer05 shudders and waits for the "KDE merges with systemd" headline
Nov 01 07:44:29 <pabs3> go rant on their blog :)
Nov 01 11:12:28 <rah> SHR depended on Enlightenment, who removed the phone-specific modules SHR used because they were unmaintained
Nov 01 12:03:59 <pabs3> http://bobthegnome.blogspot.com/2017/11/retiring-my-ubuntu-phone-after-1000-days.html
Nov 01 13:40:12 <pabs3> from #debian-arm <m4r> pabs: Regarding mali: the original lima (mali reverse-engineering) project (by Luc Verhaegen) is dead, but it has been revived recently by somebody else (https://github.com/yuq/mesa-lima and https://github.com/yuq/linux-lima). That is far from being even remotely usable, but there is development activity.
Nov 01 13:48:22 <PaulFertser> What is Luc busy with lately?
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