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Jan 08 23:06:33 <pabs3> https://lwn.net/Articles/743610/ "Schematics are incompatible with one one whole class of corporate lies."
Jan 08 23:26:02 <PaulFertser> Many consumer products are either using chipset reference schematics vanilla or with trivially modifications. OpenWrt wouldn't be able to support that many boards otherwise.
Jan 08 23:26:33 <PaulFertser> I would guess schematics for a modern x86 board wouldn't be too fascinating either.
Jan 08 23:28:47 <PaulFertser> RISC-V is available on HDL level. Or one can study OpenSPARC if he or she wants to know how modern complex CPUs work.
Jan 08 23:32:22 <PaulFertser> I can't remember any recent case of corporate lies revealed by REing some schematic.
Jan 09 00:23:41 <DocScrutinizer05> >>Of course, modern machines also have so many components that such schematics would be very large, and best viewed in fact with interactive tools.<< hmmm, like eeshow?
Jan 09 00:24:28 <DocScrutinizer05> actually I'm totally happy with a searchable pdf for any schematics I get for 3rd party devices
Jan 09 00:26:04 <DocScrutinizer05> the problem is idiot companies like Stiebel-Eltron don't hand out any schematics, thus not allowing me to fix a most likely trivial bug in my 800 bucks waterheater
Jan 09 00:26:45 <DocScrutinizer05> complexity of that electronics is arduino level
Jan 09 00:28:21 <DocScrutinizer05> Purism doesn't hand out schematics for their librem stuff, I wonder how they can call them libre(m)
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