**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 19 03:00:02 2018 Feb 19 06:56:20 https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20180219#plasmamobile Feb 19 08:40:27 with regards to packaging… any experience with flatpack? Is that any good? Feb 19 08:41:21 approximately as good as "bundle of stuff off random website" Feb 19 08:41:35 basically it is like docker Feb 19 08:42:36 oh kay... so bundling all the sh*tload of dependencies with it? Feb 19 08:42:55 otherwise it wouldn't be "distro independent", sure Feb 19 09:05:53 mickeyl: right. there is some sharing because "apps" depend on "runtimes" and multiple apps may depend on the same runtime Feb 19 09:06:08 and also there is file dedup via ostree Feb 19 09:07:06 I've been thinking about autoconverting all of Debian to flatpaks, could be a nice alternative to backports. also would allow the use of apps that got removed and are only on snapshot.d.o Feb 19 09:18:14 true Feb 19 09:24:15 moin Feb 19 09:24:20 salve Feb 19 09:24:25 :-) Feb 19 09:24:44 how's live been to you? I read you having health issues? Feb 19 09:24:48 s/live/life/ Feb 19 09:24:48 mickeyl meant: how's life been to you? I read you having health issues? Feb 19 09:25:56 yeah, massive burnout and other issues thanks to neglecting all healthy issues like food, movinf my ass, etc pp Feb 19 09:26:23 the project ate me Feb 19 09:26:57 sucky. Feb 19 09:27:06 indeed Feb 19 09:28:11 on the bright side, I'm looking forward to a new contract. That helps a tad with the other RL issues like getting semmel for breakfast, paying health insurance etc Feb 19 09:30:10 just skimmed through 30 pages contract and generic NDA last 2 days Feb 19 09:31:43 and how are you? Feb 19 09:36:14 mickeyl: some guys are 'rebasing' maemo on devuan, involving massive refactoring/RE of several parts of the middleware aiui. Maybe you want to talk them into using FSO instead ofono, to replace that Nokia-proprietary ISI shit? Feb 19 09:36:34 new contract sounds good. crossing fingers for you! Feb 19 09:36:44 ta :-) Feb 19 09:38:04 good good here. With my daughter, time for (unpaid) FOSS is scarce. Still I'm trying to do something every now and then. Lately I've been working on my Vala book (pending publishing in a couple of days) and with that on Vala again. Feb 19 09:38:56 :-) good to hear Feb 19 09:39:16 just have a look, maybe it's interesting to you: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100192 Feb 19 09:39:17 the ISI stuff is a biggie. I don't even know the status of it. I vaguely remember that at the time I had to leave when Lara Marie was born in 2011, we just had a breakthrough in that we found out how to make it respond to our queries. Feb 19 09:39:34 mrmoku and me worked a lot on it Feb 19 09:39:41 i wonder what he does nowadays… Feb 19 09:39:46 thanks for the link. will have a read Feb 19 09:39:52 no see since ages Feb 19 09:46:07 gotta go, bbl Feb 19 09:47:10 take care! and get well soon Feb 19 09:47:14 talk to you l8er Feb 19 09:47:36 oh mickeyl, while I got a hold on you: could you consider instructing freenode to add me as co-GC of openmoko namespace/group? or do we have another stand-in already, if you're not available? Feb 19 09:48:08 i don't think we have anyone. will check how to do that. Feb 19 09:49:26 just query a staffer and tell them "please add account joerg_rw email joerg@openmoko to openmoko GCs, permissions " Feb 19 09:49:35 oki Feb 19 09:49:37 /stats p Feb 19 09:50:56 when they tell you to send an email, try later on with a more experienced and diligent staffer Feb 19 09:51:14 email goes straight to dev/null on freenode Feb 19 14:26:16 pabs3: server zombie state again? Feb 19 14:27:51 hmm, maybe temporary? load average: 1.28, 11.54, 9.25 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 20 03:00:02 2018