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Sep 20 05:43:25 <PaulFertser> Filth
Sep 20 09:35:38 <rah> lol
Sep 20 13:07:26 <pabs3> PaulFertser: I guess the alternative (mainline Linux/etc) costs too much :)
Sep 20 13:11:45 <PaulFertser> pabs3: I would guess the problem is with the vendors' mindsets and google is not willing to make them change it. 
Sep 20 13:13:42 <pabs3> does Google have any leverage here?
Sep 20 13:20:33 <PaulFertser> They control the whole ecosystem and vendors depend on it. So I guess yes.
Sep 20 13:22:07 <PaulFertser> Also they could affect the sales by public shaming campaigns.
Sep 20 13:43:09 <bencoh> pabs3: the "alternative" (mainline) would mean loosing controle
Sep 20 13:44:15 <pabs3> they still have control via their proprietary Play Store etc bits 
Sep 20 13:44:17 <bencoh> google wouldn't want that, and most chip vendors don't really see the advantages of using a mainline kernel, especially with chips that barely sell for 1~2years
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