**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 16 02:59:57 2019 Oct 16 17:38:56 Hey guys, I just found out about SHR through https://tuxphones.com. From what I understand this project and it's UI is focused on feature phones, is that correct? Oct 16 17:45:07 PureTryOut[m]: it used to be 10 years ago, yes. Oct 16 17:49:47 Used to be? Not anymore then? Oct 16 17:49:56 If not, what is it focused on now? Oct 16 17:51:38 PureTryOut[m]: I do not think SHR is being developed anymore. Oct 16 18:01:54 Oh shit, I hoped it was. I have been looking for a maintained featurephone UI to use on postmarketOS Oct 16 18:01:59 correct and it was focused on smart phones not feature phones of that era Oct 16 18:03:22 commit 647d43223ed6ace5d68b1e36d34978da472634e7 Oct 16 18:03:23 Author: Martin Jansa Oct 16 18:03:23 Date: Tue Aug 22 17:03:49 2017 +0200 Oct 16 18:03:23 meta-acer, meta-asus, meta-aurora, meta-fso, meta-geeksphone, meta-htc, meta-nokia meta-openmoko, meta-osmocombb, meta-palm, meta-samsung, meta-shr-distro, meta-shr: Remove unsupported layers Oct 16 18:03:59 it was slowly dying for couple years, until 2 years ago when I've given up completely as well Oct 16 18:04:05 Oh, indeed, I assumed the question was about smartphones. Oct 16 18:04:07 Hey JaMa Oct 16 18:04:13 Hey Paul Oct 16 18:13:11 Oh too bad. I'll notify the owner of https://tuxphones.com he should move SHR to unmaintained then Oct 16 18:15:24 I guess one could always try and port the UI software packaged in SHR to a maintained distribution Oct 16 18:20:28 I don't personally have enough interest (or knowledge) for that Oct 16 18:25:33 gta02 made me believe nice and powerful community building a free software phone is possible. But now almost everything's abandonded and I have no hope. But thanks to gta02 I can't use all that android shit either, so I'm really getting more and more separated from the society :/ Oct 16 18:27:35 The world is getting more and more mobile-oriented but I'm missing all the features everyone else is happily using. Just WTF... Oct 16 18:29:26 you're not the only one, tbh Oct 16 18:30:01 there's a whole lot of people feeling (and acting, for some of them)pretty much the same way Oct 16 18:31:12 E.g. I want to see where buses are currently located so that I can stay inside in a warm room instead of waiting for it outside under snow, rain and wind. Or I can't use any car sharing system. Or rent a city push bike. Or or or... Oct 16 18:31:56 same here Oct 16 19:12:39 PaulFertser: well if you don't mind smartphones with touch screens, the Linux on phone (and thus free software on phones) movement is bigger than ever currently with the Librem 5 and Pinephone being developed, and UI's like Phosh (GNOME) and Plasma Mobile being made Oct 16 19:40:50 PureTryOut[m]: I do not trust librem yet. Pinephone is unlikely to be anywhere near free. And those UIs, they still depend on android kernel and binary modules to handle telephony... Oct 16 20:17:40 Both UI's don't depend on anything from Android Oct 16 20:18:15 The PinePhone only uses proprietary firmware for some hardware, userland is completely free Oct 16 20:18:18 Same for the Librem 5 Oct 16 21:11:08 on Librem 5 you don't need to load proprietary firmwares by yourself, as they're all embedded in some ROMs Oct 16 21:11:23 so it's pretty much like GTA02 in this regard Oct 16 21:12:15 PureOS is just a Debian-based GNU/Linux distro, and phosh is simply a GNOME Shell replacement Oct 16 21:14:36 telephony is ModemManager-based, and kernel is pretty close to mainline (definitely not android-like) Oct 16 21:16:10 * dos1 works at Purism now on Librem 5 - specifically phosh and phoc (shell and compositor) Oct 16 21:18:16 I'd probably run L5 marketing a bit differently (from the beginning of the campaign) if it was up to me... it took me some time to decide whether I trust it or not as well ;) Oct 16 21:20:01 but in the end I believed in it and I'm glad I did Oct 16 21:21:46 maybe it doesn't have physical keyboard and its screen is capacitive... but it's finally the next GNU/Linux phone I've been waiting for :) Oct 16 21:32:48 I'm waiting for the Pinephone personally Oct 16 21:33:34 Tbh I hate the GNOME marketing they're doing. The phone will also run UBTouch and Plasma Mobile, but that is not being mentioned at all Oct 16 21:33:58 It makes it hard to like them as someone who doesn't care for GNOME Oct 16 21:52:19 pinephone is also supported by LuneOS Oct 16 21:53:59 LuneOS, postmarketOS, Nemo, Maemo Leste, Replicant, UBPorts. Way more than Librem 5 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 17 02:28:05 2019 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 17 02:59:57 2019