**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 04 02:59:57 2009 Jul 04 03:22:28 pc->mini-USB, J2,3,4 are JTAG standard post connector etc Jul 04 03:23:46 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/debug_board/OpenMoKo_Debug_Board_V3_MP.pdf Jul 04 04:12:18 DocScrutinizer: Thanks! That should get me headed in the right direction. :) Jul 04 04:12:48 np Jul 04 08:10:39 onen|openBmap: In case you need to upgrade again and it segfaults - while read package; do opkg upgrade "$package"; done < <(opkg list_upgradable | awk '{print $1}') Jul 04 08:12:20 azaghal: thanks! Jul 04 08:12:29 It'll upgrade packages one by one. Jul 04 08:12:38 * onen|openBmap feels like stupid not having done this by himself Jul 04 08:13:29 Hm... You might need bash for the above thing, though. Jul 04 11:22:04 hi Jul 04 11:23:07 hi PBeck Jul 04 11:26:06 hi Jul 04 11:49:47 hi all Jul 04 11:50:02 i would like to tell you that iam new to openmoko Jul 04 11:50:29 i would like to know can i flash my phone uesing xp Jul 04 11:50:44 or how can i flash my phone uesing memory card Jul 04 11:51:33 ian202: for flashing you better use some GNU/Linux livecd or boot from uSD and use flasherase_all - nandwrite combo. Read the wiki for detailed instructions. Jul 04 11:52:12 i have real all thind but as i don't know linux i can't undersatnd that Jul 04 11:52:39 earlier i was uesing motorola a1200 that can be mode or flash easly from xp Jul 04 11:53:17 how can i flsh it through memory card Jul 04 11:53:29 ian202: i don't understand, why windows people are buying openmoko phones... could you tell me, why? ;) Jul 04 11:53:30 i have got the bin file and jffs2 file Jul 04 11:53:56 i was uesing a1200 motoming so i baught This one Jul 04 11:54:15 ian202: but that's phone for linux geeks! :o Jul 04 11:54:21 (freerunner) Jul 04 11:54:47 can you help me out with this one i have om2008 in my freeruner Jul 04 11:55:06 ian202: why can't you use dfu-util? i think there is windows version... Jul 04 11:55:19 i can't install application on it and can't flash Jul 04 11:55:39 that is hard to understand i have spent my week over that but no ues Jul 04 11:55:44 why can't you install applications on it?... Jul 04 11:55:49 huh Jul 04 11:55:58 i really think FreeRunner isn't for you :( Jul 04 11:56:03 i don't know where to install Jul 04 11:56:22 everytime i click on instaaler it says some warning Jul 04 11:56:38 you need to have working internet connection Jul 04 11:56:41 please guyes help me out Jul 04 11:57:10 i have a iphone besed firmware download from fourms of openmoko Jul 04 11:57:32 yes i have the internet connection Jul 04 11:57:54 o_O Jul 04 11:58:07 you have no other device than your iphone to flash it with? Jul 04 11:58:35 LOL Jul 04 11:58:53 its looks like iphone but not iphone firmware Jul 04 11:58:56 ian202: just read the wiki it has all the information you need. Jul 04 11:59:09 ian202: a) you're hard to understand b) you say nonsense c) IMO FR isn't for you Jul 04 11:59:17 dos1++ Jul 04 11:59:21 to be true i am not able to understand Jul 04 11:59:47 Communication breakdown, it's always the same Jul 04 11:59:48 i can understand that Jul 04 11:59:57 but i am trying to learn Jul 04 12:00:10 You have a freerunner phone? Or are you trying to install onto something else? Jul 04 12:00:31 is it possible to flash the openmoko through memory card Jul 04 12:00:42 i have only few icon in my phone Jul 04 12:01:15 ian202: i've already told you yes, it's possible. Jul 04 12:01:21 contect, dailer, maps, setting,massage, soduku nothing else Jul 04 12:01:24 ian202: you need a uSD you can boot from Jul 04 12:01:38 ian202: then you do flasherase_all - nandwrite combo Jul 04 12:01:43 it's possible, yes, but it's harder than just flashing by usb Jul 04 12:02:13 i am uesing xp Jul 04 12:02:13 ian202: FR is a small portable GNU/Linux capable computer, you need to think about it that way. Jul 04 12:02:25 ian202: asking again - why can't you just use dfu-util? Jul 04 12:02:32 all needed examples are on wiki Jul 04 12:02:35 just copy-paste... Jul 04 12:02:39 * PaulFertser thought it's common for India inhabitants to understand english properly... Jul 04 12:03:22 let me tell you what i have done Jul 04 12:03:45 its ask me to download dfu-util Jul 04 12:03:50 i have done that Jul 04 12:03:53 ian202: who asks? Jul 04 12:04:18 therefor i have created the mini gw but its not working Jul 04 12:04:35 so finaly i desided to flash uesing memory card Jul 04 12:04:36 Mini gw! OMG Jul 04 12:04:49 i have formated my memory card uesing fat32 Jul 04 12:05:00 O_O Jul 04 12:05:21 i have puted both the file bin and iPhoneOS_rootfs_20090401.jffs2 Jul 04 12:05:22 ian202: i don't want to sound very rude but really, nobody here can understand you Jul 04 12:05:23 fat32? Jul 04 12:05:27 WTF? Jul 04 12:05:32 ... Jul 04 12:05:33 :DDDD Jul 04 12:05:45 ian202: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util-windows Jul 04 12:05:48 first position in google Jul 04 12:05:53 read first section Jul 04 12:06:05 and use tips from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util Jul 04 12:06:21 don't play with memory card or other stuff - it's really not for you :x Jul 04 12:06:37 k Jul 04 12:06:51 and don't try to compile dfu-util by yourself Jul 04 12:06:57 i am totaly confuesed i have spent over 350 us$ over it Jul 04 12:07:00 at end of first section you have link to ready binaries Jul 04 12:07:23 ian202: but it was your decision. Jul 04 12:07:25 your fault :P Jul 04 12:07:29 it's not for you... Jul 04 12:07:47 I don't think it's really very hidden that it's not a consumer-ready phone. Jul 04 12:08:29 Freerunner != iPhone Jul 04 12:08:33 umm Jul 04 12:08:52 freerunner is smartphone sized GNU/Linux box for developers, geeks and power linux users Jul 04 12:08:55 can anybody tell me that how to do that step by step Jul 04 12:09:12 with ability to make phone calls :P Jul 04 12:09:15 i have def-utili with me Jul 04 12:10:47 Where are you ian202? Jul 04 12:10:57 please help me out in simple words Jul 04 12:11:31 ian202: it's impossible Jul 04 12:11:47 The problem is that even if someone can help you get it flashed - there isn't really much you can do without learning a _LOT_. Jul 04 12:12:03 ian202: it's like an elementary schoolboy asks to help him solve diffirential equations. Jul 04 12:12:04 SpeedEvil: ++ Jul 04 12:12:31 but if someone can help me i can do it Jul 04 12:12:43 i have unbuntu in my notebook Jul 04 12:13:08 it is _NOT_ at the state of ubuntu on notebooks Jul 04 12:13:22 That's almost usable by someone with little knowledge.. Jul 04 12:13:35 please help me Jul 04 12:13:36 Owing to hundreds of man-years of effort. Jul 04 12:13:52 i have spent my week over it and lots of money Jul 04 12:14:09 ian202: have you read the ML before you considered buying it? Jul 04 12:14:10 just tell me how can i flash this devise uesing memory card Jul 04 12:14:19 what to do step by step Jul 04 12:14:21 please Jul 04 12:14:35 ian202: what do you want to flash on it? Jul 04 12:14:40 ian202: iphone rootfs? Jul 04 12:14:54 yes Jul 04 12:15:50 hahhahahhahahahhahahhahhahahh Jul 04 12:15:50 ian202: well, it doesn't make sense Jul 04 12:16:03 You absolutely can't flash the iphone OS on it. Jul 04 12:16:08 ian202: even if we provided you directions how to do it. Jul 04 12:16:13 SpeedEvil: why? I think he can. Jul 04 12:16:16 (well - without man-years of work.) Jul 04 12:16:28 i have computer with xp a 2gb memory card two files iPhoneOS_rootfs_20090401.jffs2, uImage nd openmoko device Jul 04 12:16:30 ian202: you can flash any junk to device. But it doesn't mean it will run. Jul 04 12:16:32 can't flash the iphone OS on it and have it boot. Jul 04 12:16:48 ian202: Ok - you can't do that. It will never work. Jul 04 12:17:21 For much the same way horses don't work as transport if you feed them petrol. Jul 04 12:18:09 i got these file from Jul 04 12:18:23 unfortunately, it sounds like you know _way_ less than you need to to be able to do much productive with the phone. Jul 04 12:18:44 perhaps Jul 04 12:19:37 http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/neo1973-freerunner/26084-iphoneos-freerunner.html Jul 04 12:19:54 i got these file from http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/neo1973-freerunner/26084-iphoneos-freerunner.html Jul 04 12:20:41 or anyother firmware like qutopia wich will have all the multimedia application to run my phone Jul 04 12:21:06 The referenced wiki page states it's an april fool's; http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/IPhoneOS_on_Freerunner Jul 04 12:21:29 k Jul 04 12:21:56 anyother good firmware with good application and how to flash it uesing memory card Jul 04 12:22:35 Nothing's better than iphoneos Jul 04 12:23:13 i mean to say for openmoko phone Jul 04 12:23:27 ian202: it's a development platform, not a phone Jul 04 12:23:41 i can understand Jul 04 12:23:55 but master always help to newbees Jul 04 12:24:08 ? Jul 04 12:24:29 The problem is that you don't need one or two minutes help. Jul 04 12:24:37 You need weeks, or months. Jul 04 12:24:54 There are some images that mostly work as a phone Jul 04 12:24:56 there will be somthing in short Jul 04 12:25:13 but they do not have lots of easy to use applications. Jul 04 12:25:27 k Jul 04 12:25:32 Hi there. I tried to update my om2009 v5 with the latest releases and it seems some paroli-sounds packages are missing from the repository. Did anyone noticed it? Jul 04 12:25:33 so what should i do now Jul 04 12:25:50 ian202: I assume you can't return the phone for a refund? Jul 04 12:26:14 yes thats the main problam Jul 04 12:26:49 i will manage with a good firmware Jul 04 12:27:02 but please help me out Jul 04 12:27:18 ian202: there's no "good" (end-user ready) firmware yet. Sad but true. Jul 04 12:27:53 so please suggest me anyone you think better for me Jul 04 12:28:08 and yes how to instaal it Jul 04 12:28:24 ian202: you need to start to understand wiki first. Jul 04 12:28:30 ian202: to use dfu-util properly. Jul 04 12:28:44 ian202: after you do that, flash SHR testing image. Jul 04 12:29:41 the image i have is fake or real Jul 04 12:29:51 also, you might want to upgrade the gsm firmware, which is luckily pretty easy with the sd image here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing Jul 04 12:29:55 ian202: it's a real image of FSO distro. Jul 04 12:30:12 iPhoneOS_rootfs_20090401.jffs2 Jul 04 12:30:22 mjr: easy for those who can use "dd" to prepare a uSD. Jul 04 12:30:34 ian202: man you start to look like a troll! Jul 04 12:31:03 lol Jul 04 12:31:08 PaulFertser, well, there's instructions, so... But meh, what do I know. Jul 04 12:31:15 now i can laugh @ me Jul 04 12:31:45 mjr: i was really sure that manual instructions are easy too. Reality proved to be different. Jul 04 12:32:12 is any video demo for newbees Jul 04 12:35:00 ian202: ok, let's proceed as following: you read the wiki page about flashing and tell us what you don't understand there. Follow the links dos1 gave you. Jul 04 12:35:06 k tell me is it easy to flash my phone uesing a linux pc like unbuntu or mindirova Jul 04 12:35:21 k Jul 04 12:35:27 let me tell you Jul 04 12:35:28 ian202: damn easy Jul 04 12:35:59 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util-windows this is the page i start from Jul 04 12:36:33 as per instruction i have downloaded two files Jul 04 12:37:18 OpenMokoDFU.zip and dfu-util.exe Jul 04 12:37:55 now when i connect uesing usb it ask for some driver Jul 04 12:38:35 ian202: unzip the archive and give your windows that driver Jul 04 12:38:40 i have root the driver folder but phone do not choose any driver Jul 04 12:39:10 ian202: hm, i think i know why Jul 04 12:39:11 i also copy paste driver to win32 dir. Jul 04 12:39:21 ian202: i think you booted the phone fully Jul 04 12:39:36 means Jul 04 12:39:39 ian202: you need to boot to the menu only (NAND u-boot menu) and stay there. Jul 04 12:39:52 ian202: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner Jul 04 12:39:56 ian202: boot to NAND u-boot Jul 04 12:40:00 ian202: stay in menu. Jul 04 12:40:20 k Jul 04 12:41:14 you mean to say by pressing the voice key and power on key pressinbg togather the menu will apear is nand moad Jul 04 12:41:50 ian202: read the page carefully, i can't say better than it's written there. Jul 04 12:42:53 k Jul 04 12:43:26 by this i can understand that i am in NOR FLASH menu rite now Jul 04 12:44:55 now it show me few option Jul 04 12:44:56 Boot Jul 04 12:45:23 2. boot from micro sd Jul 04 12:45:35 ian202: ok, that's ok. Plug it to your pc and install the driver Jul 04 12:45:35 3. set console to usb Jul 04 12:45:46 4. set console to serial Jul 04 12:45:52 5. reset Jul 04 12:46:02 6. power off Jul 04 12:46:14 ian202: ian202 any u-boot will do, NAND and NOR (it's just that NOR has a 30-seconds timeout and it will boot automatically) Jul 04 12:48:13 hey now i have driver install Jul 04 12:48:20 let me tell wich driver Jul 04 12:48:28 only one driver is pending Jul 04 12:49:12 this one install agree pci sv92pp soft modem Jul 04 12:50:06 now its asking for neo1973 bootloader 1.3.2-moko12 Jul 04 12:50:19 ian202: now you give it the driver you downloaded Jul 04 12:52:50 yes its install Jul 04 12:53:14 now what should i do Jul 04 12:54:21 ian202: boot to NAND u-boot menu and use dfu-util to flash kernel and rootfs. Jul 04 12:57:49 wheni press def-util.exe its just popup and end nothing is hapning Jul 04 12:58:28 ian202: this kernel: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin and this rootfs: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Jul 04 12:58:33 ian202: do not press dfu-util. Jul 04 12:58:38 ian202: use it according to the wiki! Jul 04 13:00:52 Most windows users even doesn't know basics of their beloved operating system! Fuck. They ask me how to properly specify file to open serial port. Why do i know that it's "\\.\COM11" and they don't? Ewww Jul 04 13:03:33 helloooo, i'm trying to flash my phone with the shr-unstable rootfs however dfu-util keep throwing an "dfu_download error -81" before finishing. Jul 04 13:03:47 has anybody heard of this issue? (GTA01 neo1973) Jul 04 13:03:48 PaulFertser: you might ask why those bought a FR first instance ;-O) Jul 04 13:04:58 DocScrutinizer: this particular "newbee" used motorola a1200 and thought that any "linux phone" is similar. Jul 04 13:05:10 DocScrutinizer: and probably that it can run "iphoneos". Jul 04 13:05:11 * DocScrutinizer hates dfu-util throwing numeric errors due to coders wrer lazy to translate to decent plain text error notification Jul 04 13:05:54 it always happen at the same spot, i'm wondering, do i need to do some partitioning to install the shr-unstable rootfs? Jul 04 13:05:55 Kyrah: double-check your command line (that you flash to the correct partition etc). And then try different usb port / cable, remove extra hubs on the way etc. Jul 04 13:06:00 Kyrah: no Jul 04 13:06:12 itsnot random, it always happen at the exact same point Jul 04 13:06:14 Kyrah: ah, gta01! Jul 04 13:06:26 Kyrah: wait, are you flashing the "light" image? Jul 04 13:06:31 i tried both Jul 04 13:06:47 soory sir i got disconected Jul 04 13:06:51 Kyrah: check for size of image Jul 04 13:06:52 the kernel work fine Jul 04 13:07:01 what image size should it be? Jul 04 13:07:12 tell me what to do after installing the nor boot driver Jul 04 13:07:19 less than the 128MB you have on GTA01 ;-) Jul 04 13:07:20 Kyrah: you need to be using light! Jul 04 13:07:31 Kyrah: not more than 64M Jul 04 13:07:38 ian202: do not press dfu-util. Jul 04 13:07:41 ian202: use it according to the wiki! Jul 04 13:07:44 and after downloading k Jul 04 13:07:49 ian202: this kernel: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin and this rootfs: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Jul 04 13:07:51 err, 64? sorry Jul 04 13:07:55 DocScrutinizer: gta01 Jul 04 13:08:08 testing is old ;/ Jul 04 13:08:11 yupyup Jul 04 13:08:11 use unstable ;) Jul 04 13:08:14 Paul i'm on a neo1973 Jul 04 13:08:19 DocScrutinizer: rootfs partition is even less than 64M i think. Jul 04 13:08:25 Kyrah: install to uSD ;-) Jul 04 13:08:28 Kyrah: neo1973 == gta01 Jul 04 13:08:45 umm what Doc? Jul 04 13:08:46 Kyrah: yes, i'd do as DocScrutinizer suggests, use rootfs on uSD. Jul 04 13:08:51 first link download me a 1.4 mb file Jul 04 13:08:53 i dunno how to do that Jul 04 13:08:56 its a image file Jul 04 13:09:01 PaulFertser: sure, as there's kernel, splash, root, etc partion Jul 04 13:09:06 ian2668: first link is the kernel image, second is the rootfs image. Jul 04 13:09:13 i have the kernel latest in place Jul 04 13:09:24 how do i install the rootfs on the sd card? Jul 04 13:09:49 and another link gave me a 84 mb file wich is downloading Jul 04 13:09:50 Kyrah: make a single primary ext3 partition, untar the image there. Jul 04 13:10:00 ian2668: as expected Jul 04 13:10:07 Kyrah: that's all :-) Jul 04 13:10:37 and what do i do with the rootfs? Jul 04 13:10:43 now aht to do Jul 04 13:10:44 Kyrah: probably you'll need to tweak your u-boot menu to boot kernel from NAND but use rootfs on uSD Jul 04 13:10:53 now what bto do ? Jul 04 13:10:56 Kyrah: then boot to uSD via uBoot-menu, or adjust your uBoot-env Jul 04 13:10:59 hrm Jul 04 13:11:18 so the gta01 light is guaranted to fit the rootfs? Jul 04 13:11:29 Kyrah: expand rootfs.tgz to uSD Jul 04 13:11:32 i'm gonna try again maybe i screwed up something... Jul 04 13:11:33 downloading finish Jul 04 13:11:38 ian2668: now read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#Phrasebook until you're enlightened. Jul 04 13:11:41 now what to do Jul 04 13:11:49 yeah but i've no idea how to access the sdcard Jul 04 13:12:11 Kyrah: via your desktop PC ;-) Jul 04 13:12:14 ian2668: where're you from? Jul 04 13:12:31 Doc i knowit all sound simple for everyone exepted me. Jul 04 13:13:00 Kyrah: nah, see concurrent conversation PaulFertser | ian2668 Jul 04 13:13:42 Kyrah: learning curve on FR always very steep Jul 04 13:14:28 especially when you use a Neo :) Jul 04 13:14:43 Kyrah: i want to buy a gta01 Jul 04 13:15:05 Kyrah: for kernel work and hardware investigations Jul 04 13:15:24 Kyrah: i want to improve suspend and running time. Jul 04 13:15:42 Kyrah: Neo == [gta01; Neo_1973 & gta02; Neo FreeRunner] Jul 04 13:16:44 Kyrah: so what PaulFertser actually wants to say: do you want to sell yours? Jul 04 13:16:48 DocScrutinizer: can you imagine it? I failed to contact russian gta01 owners :( probably i need to try once more... Jul 04 13:17:34 the light appears to weight 63 megs Jul 04 13:17:40 sound good? Jul 04 13:17:48 Kyrah: too big Jul 04 13:18:08 the only smaller ones are the tar.gz ones Jul 04 13:18:18 Kyrah: we know there's been issues with too big builds for GTA01 Jul 04 13:18:20 Kyrah: yeah, too big. Complain to SHR devs. Jul 04 13:18:51 Kyrah: dn't worry into a headache, use uSD rather Jul 04 13:19:14 realy not getting anything Jul 04 13:19:24 ian2668: getting==understanding? Jul 04 13:19:26 Kyrah: dl the *.tgz and expand to uSD ext3 partition Jul 04 13:19:27 where to tyep these comand Jul 04 13:19:30 oh i found a 53 meg one Jul 04 13:19:35 ian2668: cmd.exe Jul 04 13:19:50 Kyrah: sounds muuuuch better Jul 04 13:19:52 k Jul 04 13:19:57 well i just wanna see the changes , see if it's worth putting my head back into it :) Jul 04 13:20:24 it has opened a c++ window Jul 04 13:20:25 Kyrah: recent SHR *is* worth it Jul 04 13:20:33 ian2668: Holy SHIT! Jul 04 13:20:39 loool Jul 04 13:20:42 ian2668: magical XP build you have there for sure! Jul 04 13:21:08 now what to tyep Jul 04 13:21:25 Your favourite C++ program of course Jul 04 13:21:29 * DocScrutinizer happy to not have had any need to touch that redmond-crap for >6months now Jul 04 13:21:36 I always do that when i see C++ windows. Jul 04 13:22:13 PaulFertser: I guess ian2668 will go nuts on that advice ;-D Jul 04 13:23:06 its shwoing me c/document and setting Jul 04 13:23:17 ian2668: wtf. Don't you get a simle terminal-window (white on black) when starting cmd.exe Jul 04 13:23:18 ? Jul 04 13:23:34 yes Jul 04 13:23:44 i don't get it... Jul 04 13:23:46 but the start command is Jul 04 13:23:52 ian2668: ok, now type "cd " Jul 04 13:24:07 http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01/shr-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090611-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 --> 57Mb Jul 04 13:24:08 ian2668: then "dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D /path/to/openmoko-devel-image.jffs2" Jul 04 13:24:26 http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01/shr-shr-lite-image-glibc-ipk--20090703-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 -- 63Mb Jul 04 13:24:43 why would they release a "lite" that can't fit in rootfs? Jul 04 13:24:57 Kyrah: by mistake. They don't release. And don't test mostly. Jul 04 13:25:10 well all the recent lite are too big for rootfs Jul 04 13:25:19 Kyrah: autobuilding. Jul 04 13:25:27 Kyrah: complain to SHR devs, they'll fix it. Jul 04 13:25:28 Kyrah: yes. nown issue Jul 04 13:25:38 Kyrah: pester mrmoku ;-) Jul 04 13:25:42 well imnot a pest i'm glad to get what i can Jul 04 13:25:57 after tyeping nothing is hapning can you tell me the full comand what should i tyep Jul 04 13:25:59 just thought it was curious Jul 04 13:26:38 ian2668: that's probably been the full command Jul 04 13:26:58 you mean to say it will be like Jul 04 13:27:49 c:\document and setting\amit> Jul 04 13:28:18 c:\document and setting\amit> what to tyep after This Jul 04 13:28:28 17:23 < PaulFertser> ian2668: ok, now type "cd " Jul 04 13:28:39 17:23 < PaulFertser> ian2668: then "dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D /path/to/openmoko-devel-image.jffs2" Jul 04 13:29:18 cd MyOpenmokoDownloadDir Jul 04 13:30:04 dir dfu-util* Jul 04 13:30:17 ian2668: what output??? Jul 04 13:30:37 yay booting and... "cannot run /etc/init.d/rcS press enter to open this console Jul 04 13:30:38 -_- Jul 04 13:30:39 don't mind nothing is hapning Jul 04 13:30:54 just the same line apear again and again Jul 04 13:31:19 sorry I give up Jul 04 13:31:31 c:\document and setting\amit> Jul 04 13:32:20 hrm Jul 04 13:32:33 okay about this sd card rootfs :) Jul 04 13:33:00 can i fill the sdcard from the phone through the usb cord without having a working system on it? Jul 04 13:33:05 what to do sir Jul 04 13:33:05 Kyrah: much more convenient. 64 really is too small for a decent OS Jul 04 13:33:42 dir is working show me lots of option Jul 04 13:33:49 i most likely lost the usb dcard reader ... Jul 04 13:34:10 i have all the file on my desktop Jul 04 13:34:20 what will be the comand Jul 04 13:36:14 [2009-07-04 15:28:28] 17:23 < PaulFertser> ian2668: ok, now type "cd " Jul 04 13:36:15 [2009-07-04 15:28:39] 17:23 < PaulFertser> ian2668: then "dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D /path/to/openmoko-devel-image.jffs2" Jul 04 13:37:12 ian2668: please try to find help from experienced windows users on how to use commandline terminal cmd.exe Jul 04 13:37:13 can you dfu-util to the sd card? :) Jul 04 13:38:02 Kyrah: nope Jul 04 13:38:24 but if you have a working OS on your device, you can scp Jul 04 13:38:47 do you have some desktop manager like desktop sharing clint Jul 04 13:38:56 so you can do it for me Jul 04 13:39:05 well my device is inoperant for now Jul 04 13:39:28 Kyrah: alas it seems you just flashed a non-working OS to your device ;-P Jul 04 13:39:36 yes Jul 04 13:40:29 yeah Jul 04 13:40:38 i jsut found the usb to sdcard tool Jul 04 13:40:50 now if i could find the sdcard to microsd card tool... Jul 04 13:41:17 is anybody from india Jul 04 13:41:30 Kyrah: get yourself a uSD usb-stick. Transcend is selling uSD cards with usb-stick in a blister for ~3bucks more than plain uSD Jul 04 13:41:57 onen|openBmap: why some cells are white and some grey on google earth? Jul 04 13:42:07 Kyrah: or use that adapter, yeah Jul 04 13:43:06 i haz it! Jul 04 13:43:24 is anybody from india Jul 04 13:44:07 Kyrah: I'm not sure about if old uBoot (or all uBoot) need a small (8MB) vfat partition at start of uSD to hold the kernel. I formated my uSD like this and it worked Jul 04 13:44:37 the uboot does offer to boot on sdcard Jul 04 13:44:46 PaulFertser should know better, but then paul always used Qi ;-P Jul 04 13:44:46 ian2: search the internet for something like "command line cmd.exe for windows dummies" Jul 04 13:45:10 Kyrah: yes, default u-boot menu has that option but it wants to grab kernel from uSD too. Jul 04 13:45:28 Kyrah: the problem is that old u-boot versions (probably modern too) don't support SDHC. Jul 04 13:45:58 PaulFertser: duh, boting great from 4GB here Jul 04 13:46:16 DocScrutinizer: that's gta02 u-boot Jul 04 13:46:25 yup Jul 04 13:46:38 I know someone did SDHC support for u-boot on gta01 but i'm not sure it's now in the OM repo. Jul 04 13:47:05 Kyrah: i implemented SDHC for gta01 in Qi and it is in the OM repo for sure. Jul 04 13:47:13 Kyrah: so with a 1GB or smaler uSD you're fine anyway Jul 04 13:47:52 Kyrah: what's the uSD you intend to use right now? Jul 04 13:48:17 a 4gb i have Jul 04 13:48:23 eew Jul 04 13:48:31 eew? Jul 04 13:48:31 that's SDHC Jul 04 13:48:42 well otherwise i have a 512mb Jul 04 13:48:45