**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 29 02:59:58 2006 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 29 04:12:42 2006 Nov 29 04:49:00 AAA: they aren't they just gave them a bunch of machines for testing Nov 29 04:49:13 k ciao :) Nov 29 07:01:40 morning *yawn* Nov 29 07:39:02 AAA: you may guess thrice Nov 29 07:39:26 AAA: oh, i even referred to my source Nov 29 13:37:29 xorAxAx wp being your source? Washington Post? Nov 29 13:37:42 wikipedia Nov 29 13:37:55 ah Nov 29 13:38:10 no one really know how many boxen they have Nov 29 13:38:34 boxen? Nov 29 13:38:41 AAA: wikipedia cites a source Nov 29 13:38:47 please check that one before you complain Nov 29 13:38:56 * xorAxAx has already worked for google :) Nov 29 13:41:25 why you got dis my vernacular? and I ain't complain'n Nov 29 13:41:34 why did you leave the G? Nov 29 13:42:54 i didnt leave them, i was a student for SOC :) Nov 29 13:44:03 * koen got a SoC shirt in the right size today Nov 29 13:46:12 very nice Nov 29 13:46:46 "I did all this coding and all I have to show for it is this silly t-shirt" Nov 29 13:47:04 =p Nov 29 13:47:09 the shirt is nicer as the one last year :) Nov 29 14:06:02 hey [g2] Nov 29 14:10:57 <[g2]> koen morning! Nov 29 16:13:30 man, an SoC T-shirt Nov 29 16:13:30 heh Nov 29 16:13:42 Hmm, I get component samples in the mail all the time Nov 29 16:13:55 I wonder if I could get someone to send me some SoC Nov 29 16:13:57 s Nov 29 16:16:26 mine gsoc tshirt is huge Nov 29 16:48:09 hrw|work: SoC t-shirt? Nov 29 16:48:17 yes Nov 29 16:49:27 hrw|work: i'm guessing Summer of Code? Nov 29 16:49:39 yes Nov 29 16:49:44 it was mistake Nov 29 16:50:06 in next year I will think twice before applying for a mentor Nov 29 16:51:00 hrw|work: i;ve heard the same thing repeated numerous times Nov 29 16:51:41 you can notice only 3 people are working on GSoC at google Nov 29 17:07:29 re Nov 29 17:08:30 stefan_schmidt: wb Nov 29 17:12:24 I'm not able to understand this piece of news about Trolltech and qtopia, since le linked page don't renders completely Nov 29 17:12:27 http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2006112901626NWEM Nov 29 17:12:49 "Trolltech Rolls "Complete" Linux Smartphone Stack" Nov 29 17:13:03 is it "rolling" it as GPL or only proprietary flavor? Nov 29 17:13:26 info is on the trolltech site. Nov 29 17:13:38 its more expensive then neo1973 Nov 29 17:14:01 by at least 2x Nov 29 17:15:33 rolling like in rotfl? Nov 29 17:16:19 timtimred: but is the software GPL or not? Nov 29 17:16:46 uh, i cant remember. maybe it has a dual QT like license. Nov 29 17:16:55 the greenphone is more closed Nov 29 17:17:30 Apparently you need a $695 Community SDK to develop GPL apps for it. More dough for proprietary development. Nov 29 17:18:02 buh-bye... Nov 29 17:26:10 if GPL, we can use the framework for openmoko, not? qtopia should already have a lot of programs already working and nice Nov 29 17:28:15 it would be qtopia OR openmoko Nov 29 17:29:06 you cant run both in same time in an easy way Nov 29 17:30:02 Greenphone Community SDK - GPL Nov 29 17:30:22 markit: currently such SDK does not exists Nov 29 17:30:31 they have licensing problem Nov 29 17:30:35 well, why reinvent the wheel? if we can install in neoXXX the qtopia sw? Nov 29 17:30:52 markit: currently there is no Qtopia4 GPL edition Nov 29 17:31:02 oh, thought tha announce was about it Nov 29 17:31:31 I knwo, since I've been told here, that only old qtopia was GPL, and thought that today announcement was about a new QTopia GPL Nov 29 17:31:32 Greensuite is set of software for linuxphone manufacturers which will pay QT commercial license Nov 29 19:17:18 anybody know if openmoko can run on qvga? Nov 29 19:18:54 mickeyl is planning to make it support qvga Nov 29 19:21:46 there are only about one or two other vga phones out there Nov 29 19:21:53 and i havent ever seen one in person Nov 29 19:22:01 htc universal Nov 29 19:22:24 yeah and shart wzero3 Nov 29 19:22:26 sharp Nov 29 19:22:37 there are a few qvga phones out, Nokias for instance Nov 29 19:22:45 quite many qvga these days Nov 29 19:22:47 all htc are qvga Nov 29 19:22:50 except universal Nov 29 19:23:08 but i doubt anyone will port linux to nokia phones Nov 29 19:23:15 nokia did Nov 29 19:23:23 which one Nov 29 19:23:24 ask ari jaaksi Nov 29 19:23:45 nokia has a lot of almost there phones Nov 29 19:23:48 he said "all phones" Nov 29 19:23:56 then why cant we get it Nov 29 19:24:18 symbian is not necessarily a bad os Nov 29 19:24:21 just very proprietary Nov 29 19:25:37 but its rock solid Nov 29 19:26:48 rock solid? have you used a S60 device? Nov 29 19:27:00 it's not symbian that is buggy Nov 29 19:27:02 * koen hugs his nokia 6021 Nov 29 19:27:03 it's s60 Nov 29 19:27:09 no linux, no symbian, no camera Nov 29 19:27:19 my uiq 2.0 sony is very stable Nov 29 19:27:27 my uiq p910 is shite Nov 29 19:27:34 mhh the hardware is quite shite Nov 29 19:27:36 i have a p900, also shite Nov 29 19:27:39 the software too Nov 29 19:27:41 but the stabiliy is good on my p900 Nov 29 19:27:44 I like my k750i Nov 29 19:27:58 and considering that it's 3 years old and only the battery is acting up Nov 29 19:27:58 a p900 crashes if you look at it the wrong way Nov 29 19:27:59 well done Nov 29 19:28:09 i guess mine must love me then Nov 29 19:28:28 now the p990 THAT is a piece of shit Nov 29 19:39:09 http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5780.html the uberphone has come Nov 29 19:43:41 "Marvell is shipping the PXA320 ("Monahans-P") in a low-power production run clockable to 806MHz" Nov 29 19:44:16 heh Nov 29 19:44:40 last time I checked their 1200MHz was only 20% faster as the 600MHz pxa270 Nov 29 19:44:43 and still no vfp Nov 29 19:53:46 vfp? Nov 29 19:54:02 says it can decode vga video just fine Nov 29 19:55:03 decode like decode.. Nov 29 19:55:10 displaying vga 30fps too? Nov 29 20:04:31 would be kinda useless without that if you ask me Nov 29 20:04:59 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8290441804.html Nov 29 20:05:15 Wireless MMX 2 accelerating technology, described as "a 2D graphics accelerator and a 768 KB frame buffer designed to support VGA resolution streaming video" Nov 29 20:07:41 if you got a gorgeous vga screen you better be able to display vga videos ;) Nov 29 20:57:48 hmm, gorgous vga screen, hmmm Nov 29 21:05:06 vga is gorgeous by definition Nov 29 21:05:09 i mean 285dpu Nov 29 21:05:11 dpi Nov 29 21:06:25 I knew what you meant :-P Nov 29 22:19:52 does anyone know if this phone is coming out in the UK any time soon? Nov 29 22:20:22 soon Nov 29 22:20:27 january Nov 29 22:21:00 is that for the UK or just USA? Nov 29 22:21:12 for any Nov 29 22:21:21 planned release is for january Nov 29 22:21:28 cool thanks Nov 29 22:21:31 read openmoko-community ML Nov 30 02:30:40 Hi Nov 30 02:52:26 anyone know if it will be possible to pipe the internet over blue tooth to the phone? Nov 30 02:52:44 or how the updates will work? Nov 30 02:55:29 digitalslave: I'm pretty sure that BT will allow inet connections Nov 30 02:55:55 i figure dont know why it wouldnt and would make up for the lack of wifi Nov 30 02:57:10 well WIFI would have been great as BT is kinda slow, but I'll do I guess Nov 30 02:58:29 haha yeah that and im already broadcasting Nov 30 02:59:05 have to look into some BT adapters when this phone comes out Nov 30 02:59:19 I think its kinda a moot point since BT is going to be faster than the gprs connection most of the time.. (at least in the US) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 30 02:59:57 2006