**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 11 02:59:57 2006 Dec 11 08:51:15 real lively here... Dec 11 08:52:41 hello? Dec 11 08:55:31 dingleberry Dec 11 09:01:40 does anyone know an approximate release time for the om? Dec 11 09:01:58 is it like Q2 2007 or Q4 2010...? Dec 11 09:05:42 pickart: "Mobile Standardized. January 2007." <--openmoko.com Dec 11 09:32:24 openmoko has like 2 pages Dec 11 09:32:33 and people still get lost Dec 11 09:32:39 heh Dec 11 09:32:41 s/openmoko/openmoko.com/ Dec 11 09:42:04 I have a strange and bad feeling, that openmoko will have glibc and perl :P Dec 11 09:42:44 Kaloz, you can't very well have a linux kernel without glibc Dec 11 09:43:00 g4lt-U60: are you on cracks? :p Dec 11 09:43:18 g4lt-U60: check uclibc.org Dec 11 09:44:32 I have, and wasn't impressed Dec 11 09:44:55 little gain for a LOT of work Dec 11 09:45:55 i won't call it little at all Dec 11 09:56:49 but some sort of JVM has to build against it, so it's pretty little gain, especially since J2ME was mentioned Dec 11 09:58:11 ? Dec 11 09:58:20 are you into embedded development at all? Dec 11 10:01:12 hy niggerz Dec 11 10:04:10 hai2u Kaloz sent me here to tell u, u r all fagz Dec 11 10:04:21 ? Dec 11 10:05:23 drive-by trolling. thought that freeenode kiled the last of those years ago :( Dec 11 10:05:25 !(troll && feed) Dec 11 10:06:35 trolls will never die Dec 11 10:08:08 well, this one might become living impaired, since I'm taking it up on #freenode :) Dec 11 10:10:50 :) Dec 11 10:23:17 g4lt-U60: so? :) i told you he get away, like all the trolls do Dec 11 12:40:22 morning folks Dec 11 12:42:16 mickeyl: the 4-7 days should have ended today, right? Dec 11 12:43:46 that early? Dec 11 12:44:42 I'm not 100% certain, that's why I asked :) Dec 11 12:45:51 can't say anything until it's announced, but things are looking better than two weeks ago now Dec 11 12:46:05 (for that particular piece of hardware we all are interested in) Dec 11 12:46:36 I wasn't talking about b*******h, but about the 300 DPI s****n Dec 11 12:46:45 ah right Dec 11 12:47:25 i'm currently waiting for LaF0rge to fix a patch before I can do further tests Dec 11 12:47:35 but i'm confident this week we can talk about the issue Dec 11 12:47:50 i just need to get that auxilliary hardware going Dec 11 12:47:58 mickeyl: I think you'll need packages/xserver-common/files/setDPI.sh as well Dec 11 12:48:05 afaik xserver-kdrive-common doesn't use that Dec 11 12:49:02 I still haven't found the motivation to make a recipe that derives xserver-k-c from xserver-c so it isn't hopelessly outdated and buggy Dec 11 12:49:27 hehe Dec 11 12:50:33 the dpi setting for xft is a bit different as the actual dpi, since you want to account for viewing distance Dec 11 12:52:43 mickeyl: and I foresee that gtk 2.10 will be approximately as fast as gtk 2.6 when the neo gets delivered to our collective doorsteps Dec 11 12:55:21 * koen crosses fingers Dec 11 12:56:01 * mickeyl crosses his ones, too Dec 11 12:56:20 i want 2.12 asap Dec 11 12:56:32 so I really don't like to start with going from 2.6 to 2.12 Dec 11 12:57:34 the main bottlenecks are (were) in cairo and pango Dec 11 12:57:57 so we want cairo 1.4 and pango 1.16 :)_ Dec 11 12:58:01 s/_// Dec 11 12:58:01 koen meant: so we want cairo 1.4 and pango 1.16 :) Dec 11 12:58:30 yeah Dec 11 12:59:58 although I do wonder when you will max out s3c2410fb with drawing stuff Dec 11 13:00:36 and the design team needs a copy of scummvm Dec 11 13:01:02 that way they can find out why the lack of buttons sucks Dec 11 13:09:37 * nnpiggy likes the full keyboard on his Nokia 6800... Dec 11 13:36:24 mickeyl: btw, are you subscribed to that super-secret gnome-embedded mailinglist? Dec 11 13:38:22 I'm afraid not. Where can I subscribe or is that invitation only? Dec 11 13:38:48 iirc you need to poke jdub and he will subscribe you Dec 11 13:38:54 I haven't gotten around to doing it Dec 11 13:39:01 cool. please do w/ mickeyl@linuxtogo.org as address Dec 11 13:39:03 florian and nils should know more details Dec 11 13:40:58 ever seen Dec 11 13:40:59 | rxvtlib.h:51:2: error: #error set intp_t Dec 11 13:41:00 ? Dec 11 13:42:12 x86? Dec 11 13:42:30 ya Dec 11 13:42:51 yes, and I don't recall a fix Dec 11 13:43:03 maybe gerwinin has a fix Dec 11 14:23:28 mickeyl: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/xan/2006/12/11/0 Dec 11 14:32:06 I'm excited about this gadget, but I'm still a bit worried. It should work with a USB WiFi adapter, right? Dec 11 14:32:58 or something like that: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Connect-256-WiFi-Card/dp/B0002J46ZO/sr=1-4/qid=1165849088/ref=sr_1_4/002-6609685-1250440?ie=UTF8&s=electronics Dec 11 14:33:14 if you have a powered hub, yes Dec 11 14:34:33 yeah, the "Unpowered USB 1.1" is what got me worried Dec 11 14:36:53 but if there's a way around that, great :) Dec 11 14:41:12 http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Power-Battery-Powered-CP-H420MP/dp/B0002UQALQ Dec 11 14:45:13 nnpiggy: Nice Dec 11 14:45:52 Thanks. Yeah, it was harder to find than it should have been. Dec 11 14:46:26 While the topic is on the table, has anyone ever seen a USB host gadget? Dec 11 14:46:40 nnpiggy: Can you take care to send this to the mailling list? Dec 11 14:46:54 That is to say a device with the gadget interface which can speak host out the other side? Dec 11 14:47:08 I suppose. One moment... Dec 11 14:47:15 nnpiggy: N770? Dec 11 14:47:26 :-) Dec 11 14:47:31 nnpiggy: Also the Motorola have inofficial support for this. Dec 11 14:47:38 Hmm... Does it really have both interfaces? Dec 11 14:47:49 s/Motorola/Motorola EZX phones/ Dec 11 14:47:50 stefan_schmidt meant: nnpiggy: Also the Motorola EZX phones have inofficial support for this. Dec 11 14:48:16 Ah, thanks. I'm interested in attaching a nice digital camera to a neo... Dec 11 14:50:41 * stefan_schmidt needs to add the battery powered hub to his wish list. Dec 11 14:51:24 Posted to community@lists.openmoko.org. Dec 11 14:52:25 nnpiggy: thx Dec 11 14:52:55 I assume you meant the battery powered hub and not my question about gadget-gadget connections? Dec 11 14:53:11 nnpiggy: right Dec 11 14:55:21 Glad to be of service. Dec 11 14:56:47 * stefan_schmidt is away. cu later. Dec 11 14:59:45 auf wieder bye bye, stefan_schmidt Dec 11 15:52:25 "maybe together with a FPGA to switch the USB power on and off" Dec 11 15:52:43 since when did we start calling a transistor a FPGA? Dec 11 15:57:18 Hmm... I'm wondering if I'd even consider an FPGA to switch power... Dec 11 15:57:31 heh Dec 11 22:59:57 anyone know where the hosts file lives in windows Dec 11 23:02:43 c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\ Dec 11 23:02:45 g'night Dec 11 23:08:10 thannks man Dec 11 23:08:10 later **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 12 02:59:57 2006