**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 15 02:59:57 2006 Dec 15 09:28:18 stefan_schmidt: ping Dec 15 09:58:01 koen: pong Dec 15 09:58:18 stefan_schmidt: do you want to have an extra a780 for a few weeks? Dec 15 09:59:48 koen: That would be great. (At the moment I share my E680 with two friends for hacking) Dec 15 10:00:20 mail me (koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl) your address and I'll send it to you Dec 15 10:00:34 don't be affraid to take it apart and solder stuff on it Dec 15 10:00:53 koen: :) Dec 15 10:04:58 koen: Mail is out. Dec 15 10:05:17 koen: Thanks a lot. Dec 15 10:16:17 stefan_schmidt: I'll drop it of at the post office tomorrow Dec 15 10:20:17 http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9006004&intsrc=hm_list Dec 15 10:37:08 hrw|work: seems like typical clueless journalist blurb to me, trying to stir up some controversial opinions in order to get page impressions Dec 15 11:08:14 marcb4242: I agree. Liked this article though: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7621761066.html Dec 15 11:08:14 (Sorry if it's old news to you) Dec 15 11:08:54 it's the 'management summary' of the maemo project Dec 15 11:10:15 "Based on our experiences, we can combine open communication and product confidentiality. We had no information leakage prior to the commercial product announcements, although we had had tens of developers working on the software with us. For some of the developers, we had told very detailed information about the forthcoming product. Developing products in open source and yet maintaining the confidentiality of the product plans and roadmaps was pos Dec 15 11:10:24 that's an important point for companies Dec 15 11:10:32 yes Dec 15 11:10:46 although i don't buy the "trust" thing Dec 15 11:10:49 even (C) Nokia had been in lots of sources prior to launch Dec 15 11:10:54 i think NDAs are stronger than trust, but that's me Dec 15 11:11:44 you're german, so you have confidence in the law Dec 15 11:11:59 more or less, right Dec 15 11:12:06 I don't find NDAs unreasonable Dec 15 11:12:21 I try to avoid NDA's as much as possible Dec 15 11:12:38 but sometimes you can't go around them Dec 15 11:12:49 Sure, but I understand it when it's until product launch Dec 15 11:13:25 however I refuse to sign an NDA for a job interview Dec 15 11:14:41 or sign an NDA to see if there are patches to work I did Dec 15 11:14:46 *cough* raza *cough* Dec 15 15:24:21 LOL Dec 15 15:24:29 Out of Office froma symbian dude Dec 15 15:25:14 heh Dec 15 15:26:27 * mickeyl responded Dec 15 15:29:32 :-) Dec 16 00:49:18 mickey|bbl: does your work involve adapting qt phone apis to allow those apps fit into the openmoko env (visually)? Dec 16 00:52:57 xorAxAx: QT apps without framebuffer, but X instead? Dec 16 00:53:09 stefan_schmidt: openmoko wont use X? Dec 16 00:53:17 stefan_schmidt: somebody cited a mail by mickey Dec 16 00:53:30 where he wrote that qt phone "might" be supported Dec 16 00:53:40 so the question is if anybody is planning to work on it Dec 16 00:53:51 i am just curious it because i cant really believe it :) Dec 16 00:54:05 it will use kdrive X server IIRC Dec 16 00:54:46 And perhaps somebody have enough spare time to port opie. Dec 16 00:57:15 thats unrelated to my question :) Dec 16 01:00:29 xorAxAx: So repeat your question Dec 16 01:00:55 i wasn't talking about Qtopia Phone, I was talking about Qt as a widget set Dec 16 01:01:10 mickey|bbl: uh, still awake. Dec 16 01:01:12 I hope to have time to add some glue code Dec 16 01:01:15 mickey|bbl: and you are planning to do the work? or just the possiblity? :) Dec 16 01:01:24 atm. just the possibility Dec 16 01:01:32 although I have a personal interest Dec 16 01:01:35 are there many qt phone apps? Dec 16 01:01:35 because I like qt Dec 16 01:01:43 not a single one released Dec 16 01:01:46 hah Dec 16 01:01:53 and besides... the phone API is not released either :) Dec 16 01:01:57 oh Dec 16 01:01:59 that is... the API is released, not the code Dec 16 01:02:01 :D Dec 16 01:02:01 you can buy it but? Dec 16 01:02:04 yeah Dec 16 01:02:17 yes. you can buy a license Dec 16 01:02:30 g'night. much too late for me, just heard the 'ping' while wandering to bed Dec 16 01:02:36 good night Dec 16 02:31:18 http://www.openezx.org/news.html#20061216 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 16 02:59:57 2006