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Dec 27 07:55:50 <gambler> any openmoko ppl going to be at linux.conf.au
Dec 27 10:14:13 <buz> http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/293/ see atmel,ralink,realtek
Dec 27 10:14:18 <buz> can we have wifi in v2 now?
Dec 27 12:20:44 <Dalik> Is openmooko being released in Australia and possibly when?  I know release date should be in January but aussie tends to be late.
Dec 27 12:22:13 <xkr47> and/or will it be available through some online shopping site ?
Dec 27 12:22:30 <xkr47> shop.openmoko.com :)
Dec 27 12:24:01 <Dalik> xkr47 good question !
Dec 27 12:25:41 <so_solid_moo> the idea was that it will be available online direct from the factory
Dec 27 12:26:15 <xkr47> credit cards accepted etc..?
Dec 27 12:26:20 <xkr47> any preorder planned ?
Dec 27 12:27:06 <Dalik> $350 price tag or so in USD?
Dec 27 12:27:41 <so_solid_moo> that was what was stated
Dec 27 12:27:55 <so_solid_moo> I imagine CCs etc. would be the best bet
Dec 27 12:28:03 <so_solid_moo> I didn't hear of a preorder
Dec 27 12:28:39 <so_solid_moo> basically, when it's finished, it will go more or less into manufacturing, aiui
Dec 27 12:30:06 <Dalik> also I read somewhere on the "internets" that it will come with extra bits like car charger and other common add-ons.  Anyonw know if this is true and if so what should it come with?
Dec 27 12:30:35 <so_solid_moo> http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html is still 'the word'
Dec 27 17:29:19 <PBeck> hi
Dec 27 17:31:01 <xkr47> yo!
Dec 27 17:31:54 <PBeck> will it give the neo1973 in germany to buy?
Dec 27 17:33:07 <xkr47> 14:53 < so_solid_moo> the idea was that it will be available online direct from the factory
Dec 27 17:33:26 <PBeck> thats ok :)
Dec 27 17:33:48 <PBeck> btw give it a date?
Dec 27 17:34:16 <PBeck> so that we can buy it :)
Dec 27 17:34:49 <PBeck> more precisely as january ;)
Dec 27 17:35:01 <xkr47> I guess that's what everybody wants to know :)
Dec 27 17:35:34 <PBeck> ok thank you
Dec 27 17:37:24 <myren> anyone been keeping up on the mailing list?
Dec 27 17:37:46 <myren> i subscribed and it was all "i'd like you to add a light sensor, and a humidity sensor"
Dec 27 17:37:58 <myren> and other random fuckers asking for their own random crap
Dec 27 17:38:32 <so_solid_moo> you can access the archives online if you don't want to hear ten different requests for fpgas
Dec 27 17:41:07 <xkr47> :)
Dec 27 17:46:36 <myren> i still am subscribed
Dec 27 17:46:44 <myren> i just havent bothered checking in two weeks
Dec 27 17:47:00 <greentux_alt2> I guess everybody would be happy if we can see it @ fosdem...
Dec 27 17:47:19 <greentux_alt2> thats middle of feb
Dec 27 17:47:31 <myren> how the hay did a small developer get access to a multi touch touchscreen?
Dec 27 17:47:37 <myren> thats what i want to know
Dec 27 17:59:59 <buz> by paying for it?
Dec 27 18:01:19 <Stephmw> myren: there's a certain amount of noise, true
Dec 27 18:01:29 <Stephmw> myren: but the hw hasn't been released yet, what else do you expect?
Dec 27 18:57:07 <myren> well, every touch screen i've ever seen in my embedded work has been single touch
Dec 27 21:43:00 <buz> cue "the we need better display" posts: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadgetmobile/~3/67214061/
Dec 27 21:55:05 <xkr47> heh
Dec 27 22:01:31 <buz> i'll wait for the first that requires hd resolution for $insaneApplication
Dec 27 22:03:36 <so_solid_moo> you'll probably need an fpga to decode video fast enough for that size a screen.
Dec 27 22:03:51 <rwhitby> and a v8 motor to power it
Dec 27 22:04:27 <stefan_schmidt> don't forget the PoE injector
Dec 27 22:12:12 * buz definitely wants flames one the side
Dec 27 22:12:18 <buz> after all, whats a v8 without flames
Dec 27 22:20:53 * xkr47 want a heat sink with a fan on the telephone
Dec 27 22:20:56 <xkr47> ;)
Dec 27 22:21:46 <buz> and a portable nuclear reactor to power it,y es
Dec 27 22:23:08 <xkr47> russia probably has refined technology for this already
Dec 27 22:24:07 <buz> i'm sure iran would buy a whole container
Dec 27 22:30:05 <timtimred> go faster stripes.
Dec 27 22:31:21 <timtimred> and a tazer. with GPS targeting of course.
Dec 27 22:36:52 <buz> i think i've actually seen a phone with electro stungun once
Dec 27 22:37:00 <buz> not quite a taser but close enough
Dec 27 22:37:28 <buz> stunguns are easy enough
Dec 28 00:21:04 <edwardocallaghan> Hi
Dec 28 00:21:09 <edwardocallaghan> Anyone around?
Dec 28 00:27:22 <myren> just us cows
Dec 28 00:27:24 <myren> mooooo
Dec 28 00:30:12 <edwardocallaghan> Oh  moo
Dec 28 00:33:12 <edwardocallaghan> Any news on a date for this phone?
Dec 28 00:36:07 <stefan_schmidt> edwardocallaghan: If yes, the title would have been updated and a mail would haven been sent to the ml...
Dec 28 00:36:34 <edwardocallaghan> Ture
Dec 28 00:36:50 <edwardocallaghan> But I was wondering what word on the street has it ;)
Dec 28 00:52:18 <stefan_schmidt> no whispers on the street
Dec 28 00:54:33 <edwardocallaghan> Well is there any news what so ever?
Dec 28 00:55:36 <stefan_schmidt> no
Dec 28 00:56:27 <Demitar> If you're just looking for loose rumours date and /dev/random might help. :)
Dec 28 01:03:13 * yacc wonders if there are any firm data when the Neo will be available?
Dec 28 01:10:07 <edwardocallaghan> Yea well tell my /dev/null that
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