**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 15 02:59:56 2007 Apr 15 03:03:37 poffy: got a url to your past contributions? Apr 15 03:04:00 I have to get them together Apr 15 03:04:19 I think the main part of my question has to do with the fact that these aren't specific Linux contributions Apr 15 03:04:27 but these are embedded device contributions Apr 15 03:24:45 poffy: my work at nslu2-linux.org got me a P0 device ... Apr 15 04:08:26 counter Apr 15 04:08:26 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks, 2 days 07:51:32 (16.327 +-14.0 days) (866,161) Apr 15 04:19:22 counter Apr 15 04:19:22 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks, 2 days 07:40:36 (16.320 +-14.0 days) (867,162) Apr 15 04:55:03 When I'm compiling from source do I have to set the MACHINE to my exact type of unit or does it build an image for all the different types. Apr 15 04:55:05 ? Apr 15 05:01:35 smithbone: MACHINE should be either "x86", "fic-gta01" or "qemuarm", but check that you got the corresponding machine configuration file in $MOKODIR/oe/conf/machine Apr 15 05:05:51 aevin: Thanks.. I was just wondering if I needed a bv3 on the end. Apr 15 05:06:16 ugh.. bummer. Compile failed.. Apr 15 05:06:35 ERROR: function do_compile failed Apr 15 05:06:57 Its whining about an unterminated quote string.. Apr 15 05:07:43 in perl x2p Apr 15 05:10:58 smithbone: what host OS? Apr 15 05:11:14 linux kubuntu fiesty Apr 15 05:11:39 rwhitby: I'm using your latest mokomakefile. Apr 15 05:11:45 /bin/sh symlinked to dash or bash? Apr 15 05:12:12 dash.. Apr 15 05:12:22 that's gonna hurt you then. Apr 15 05:12:34 ah.. I seem to remember reading that was a problem. Apr 15 05:12:47 I fogot to check. Apr 15 05:12:58 OE should really check for it and complain, it's so common. Apr 15 05:13:36 Ok.. fixed.. Here we go again.. Apr 15 05:14:38 rwhitby: 'NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available' Apr 15 05:14:42 Is that a big issue? Apr 15 05:14:56 no Apr 15 05:15:10 dunno why it says that, but it's harmless. Apr 15 05:15:30 error Apr 15 05:15:40 You haven't done a "make depend" yet! Apr 15 05:15:40 | Apr 15 05:15:56 Do I need to clean out the previous failed build. Apr 15 05:15:59 ?\ Apr 15 05:16:01 make clean-package- Apr 15 05:16:25 in this case perl-5.8.7? Apr 15 05:16:33 just perl I think Apr 15 05:17:13 Ok.. That seems to have taken.. Apr 15 05:17:59 rwhitby: Nope. same error. Apr 15 05:25:05 weird. 32-bit or 64-bit host OS? Apr 15 05:25:16 32. Apr 15 05:25:36 try cleaning perl-native too Apr 15 05:26:30 Ok. If this fails I will. I blew away the work dir and the stamps.. Apr 15 05:27:13 hmm - make clean-package-perl should have done exactly that. Apr 15 05:28:35 I don't think it removes the unpack stamps. Apr 15 05:29:42 heh.. looks like I'm getting a rebuild of native out of this as well. Apr 15 05:32:57 rwhitby: Ok that seems to have fixed it. I'm on to expat now.. Apr 15 05:33:47 smithbone: so cleaning perl-native as well fixed it? Apr 15 05:35:19 rwhitby: Dunno. rm -rf the perl dirctory and rm perl* in the stamps file fixed it. Apr 15 05:35:47 But that took out perl-native in the process. Apr 15 05:36:13 right - perl-native would have been rebuilt, and I expect that you had a bad perl-native due to dash before. Apr 15 05:36:30 makes sense.. Apr 15 05:37:17 smithbone: can you add the symptom, diagnosis and fix to the mokomakefile wiki page please? Apr 15 05:37:39 sure. Apr 15 05:37:46 thx Apr 15 06:03:24 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[MokoMakefile]] Apr 15 06:27:11 counter Apr 15 06:27:12 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks, 2 days 05:32:47 (16.231 +-14.0 days) (868,162) Apr 15 06:32:10 openmoko: 03laforge * r1760 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (mmc-fixes.patch series uboot-s3c2410-mmc.patch): merge mmc-fixes.patch into s3c2410-mmc.patch Apr 15 06:32:57 openmoko: 03laforge * r1761 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-20061030-qt2410.patch: CONFIG_SUPPORT_VFAT doesn't need '1' Apr 15 06:35:09 openmoko: 03laforge * r1762 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-20061030-neo1973.patch: Apr 15 06:35:09 openmoko: * make sure SD card is powered off in GTA01Bv4 and higher Apr 15 06:35:09 openmoko: * make sure LCM backlight is off when power button is first pressed Apr 15 06:35:09 openmoko: * VFAT support define doesn't need to be set to '1' but just present Apr 15 07:01:50 frikkin' dash! Apr 15 07:01:59 breaking all sorts of scripts with that new link. Apr 15 07:34:09 good morning Apr 15 07:48:52 moornging Apr 15 07:48:57 gong Apr 15 07:55:54 hi Apr 15 07:58:31 openmoko: 03laforge * r1763 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/series: * move interrupt patches before neo1973 core Apr 15 08:00:04 counter Apr 15 08:00:04 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks, 2 days 03:59:54 (16.167 +-14.0 days) (869,162) Apr 15 08:28:19 openmoko: 03laforge * r1764 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-20061030-neo1973.patch: Apr 15 08:28:19 openmoko: * GTA01Bv4: switch on SD card voltage if sd card is detected at boot time Apr 15 08:28:19 openmoko: (we don't detect sd card insertion/removal at runtime) Apr 15 08:43:38 I am using MokoMakefile trying to build openmoko-devele-image, but i am trying to build for HTC Universal. I have added a cuople of bb files so it will build the kernel version i oreffer, but it adds a cvs{srcdate} wich is 20060814. How do i get rid if it. I know that i havent set it up, seems like it is predefined . Apr 15 08:43:58 s/oreffer/preffer/ Apr 15 08:43:58 goxboxlive meant: I am using MokoMakefile trying to build openmoko-devele-image, but i am trying to build for HTC Universal. I have added a cuople of bb files so it will build the kernel version i preffer, but it adds a cvs{srcdate} wich is 20060814. How do i get rid if it. I know that i havent set it up, seems like it is predefined . Apr 15 08:44:53 I just want it to build a linux kernel wich is tagged. Apr 15 09:11:15 goxboxlive: set preferred kernel version in your local.conf Apr 15 09:11:51 rwhitby: Ok, so it isent enough to just do that in the openmoko.conf file. Apr 15 09:12:13 goxboxlive: openmoko distro conf has srcdate sets Apr 15 09:12:30 and there is also a preferred version file in distro/include/ Apr 15 09:14:31 yes i know, but i just couldnt fine the line wich adds the src{date} to the linux-kernel version. I saw there where a lot of 20060814 but non for linux-kernel. Apr 15 09:46:04 openmoko: 03laforge * r1765 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/ (11 files in 5 dirs): * add (still incomplete) SMS and phonebook support from Sean Chiang Apr 15 09:48:09 Hi Apr 15 09:51:24 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Wish_List]] Apr 15 09:55:46 openmoko: 03laforge * r1766 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/src/gsmd/atcmd.c: parse numeric responses for RING, NO CARRIER and BUSY (Philip Zabel) Apr 15 11:01:43 Just wondering, what is the status of the Neo, any chance to buy one? Apr 15 11:01:56 see topic Apr 15 11:26:46 buz: guess no specifics on number of weeks :( Apr 15 11:27:49 buz: my Nokia is getting problematic. I can mostly live with the fact that it cannot connect to 1800MHz-only networks. But since yesterday the SD card slot started acting funny, so I need consider changing phones :( Apr 15 11:29:09 yacc: I'be been without the phone for >3 months now.. ;) Apr 15 11:29:36 plaes: :-P Apr 15 11:30:07 plaes: my phone is my ebook reader, and I'm a book worm. My subnotebook is slightly to big for a sensible ebook reader, ... Apr 15 11:30:28 plaes: So loosing the 1800MHz band I took without much complaint. Apr 15 11:46:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[PIM_Storage]] Apr 15 13:08:38 is Sean program manager at Fic on this channel ? Apr 15 13:09:02 no Apr 15 13:09:57 hmm Apr 15 13:10:24 so i think only way to get in touch with him is via email Apr 15 13:10:47 I don't think he's ever been on here. Apr 15 13:11:29 ok Apr 15 13:11:39 any openmoko ui designers here ? Apr 15 13:12:36 that would probably depend on your definition of designer Apr 15 13:14:03 buz, hmm guys working on the abstact UI i.e guys working on look and feel and placement of widgets Apr 15 13:14:14 not sure Apr 15 13:14:18 i think fic people do that Apr 15 13:14:50 buz, i know that Apr 15 13:15:37 buz just been doing a study of UI and found some minor problems in the placement of widgets Apr 15 13:16:09 write to the mailing list Apr 15 13:41:24 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Contacts]] [[Wish_List]] [[OpenMokoFramework]] Apr 15 15:19:13 hey Apr 15 15:19:28 who here actually owns an openmoko? if so how is it? Apr 15 15:19:29 Xiangyu: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) Apr 15 15:22:06 They're all developers for now. You won't get user reviews yet :) Apr 15 15:27:37 counter? Apr 15 15:27:37 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; 2 weeks, a day 20:32:21 (15.856 +-14.0 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-04-30); 5 months (153.856 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (870,163) Apr 15 15:34:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Look_%26_Feel]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] Apr 15 15:43:50 openmoko: 03mickey * r1767 10/trunk/oe/packages/ (gtkterm/ gtkterm/gtkterm2_0.2.3.bb tasks/task-openmoko.bb): oe: add gtkterm2, the "official" openmoko terminal application :) Apr 15 16:11:00 Hello Apr 15 16:11:22 I am a newbie trying to build OpenMoko using MokoMakefile Apr 15 16:12:14 The package fit-gta01-linux failed to build because of a corrupted source archive Apr 15 16:12:21 I have deleted that archive Apr 15 16:12:37 The build is failing complaining that the archive file is missing Apr 15 16:13:00 Can someone tell me how to find out the location of the archive from the config file and download it manually? Apr 15 16:18:54 I found how to fix the problem. I did a make clean-package-gta01-kernel-2.6 and then attempted build again Apr 15 16:22:22 great. Apr 15 16:42:06 openmoko: 03mickey * r1768 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-mainmenu/src/ (buttonactions.c mokodesktop.h): openmoko-panel-mainmenu: don't use apm -s while it's broken, use echo /sys/power/state in the meantime Apr 15 17:01:49 openmoko: 03mickey * r1769 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-gsm/src/openmoko-panel-gsm.c: openmoko-panel-gsm: add popup menu for mouse tap Apr 15 17:02:21 openmoko: 03mickey * r1770 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/ (TODO libmokogsmd/moko-gsmd-connection.c): libmokogsmd: don't try to register event handlers when connection to gsmd fails Apr 15 17:03:17 openmoko: 03mickey * r1771 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/examples/openmoko-gsmd-demo/src/demo-main.c: openmoko-gsmd-demo: relayout buttons Apr 15 17:17:33 openmoko: 03mickey * r1772 10/trunk/oe/packages/pango/ (5 files in 2 dirs): oe: add pango 1.16.2 Apr 15 17:17:54 openmoko: 03mickey * r1773 10/trunk/oe/conf/distro/include/ (openmoko.inc sane-srcdates.inc): oe/conf: bump matchbox-panel-2 SRCDATE to get the improved error reporting Apr 15 17:21:16 openmoko: 03mickey * r1774 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/libmokogsmd/Makefile.am: libmokogsmd: include new marshalling in library Apr 15 17:28:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] Apr 15 17:30:58 counter Apr 15 17:30:58 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks, a day 18:29:00 (15.770 +-14.0 days) (871,163) Apr 15 17:31:47 waiting is a pain. Apr 15 17:34:25 openmoko: 03mickey * r1775 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/TODO: openmoko-libs: refine TODO Apr 15 17:55:48 it seems the counter is configured to run backwards Apr 15 17:57:38 Hi Apr 15 18:07:40 can anyone pass on a link that tells you how to get the openmoko phone to work with your provider? Apr 15 18:07:40 matthew_: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) Apr 15 18:08:00 xD Apr 15 18:08:05 Great boot Apr 15 18:24:08 openmoko: 03mickey * r1776 10/trunk/oe/ (6 files in 4 dirs): oe: add openmoko-terminal (just glue .desktop + .png for gtkterm2) Apr 15 18:51:43 Is HEAD supposed to compile? Apr 15 19:24:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wishlist:More/Custom_Input_Method_Widgets]] [[Terminal]] [[ChangeLog]] [[Main_Page]] Apr 15 19:43:45 counter Apr 15 19:43:45 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks, a day 16:16:13 (15.678 +-14.0 days) (872,163) Apr 15 20:06:47 rwhitby: ping Apr 15 20:35:05 Is there anyway to see the how much is the progress of my OpenMoko build process? Apr 15 20:35:30 I am running a build from scratch and it is almost 10 hours elapsed since I start the build Apr 15 20:35:47 I am building libmad as I type now Apr 15 20:38:19 prav33n: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=190&logfile=20070407214734.log search for libmad and guess how much is left Apr 15 20:39:27 zecke: Thank you Apr 15 20:39:35 zecke: I am almost close to the finish Apr 15 21:29:50 prav33n: gu Apr 15 21:30:59 rwhitby: I finished the build successfully. MokoMakefile rocks! Apr 15 21:31:05 rwhitby: Thank you Apr 15 21:31:21 rwhitby: Yesterday, I didn't realize the you were the author Apr 15 21:31:36 rwhitby: :-) Apr 15 21:31:36 np Apr 15 21:31:50 rwhitby: Just an observation Apr 15 21:32:03 sure Apr 15 21:32:04 rwhitby: Some downloads from ftp.debian.org were painful Apr 15 21:32:22 rwhitby: Can we update the scripts to use mirrors.kernel.org? Apr 15 21:32:43 rwhitby: I think mirrors.kernel.org is one of the best mirror for ftp.debian.org Apr 15 21:33:26 rwhitby: Also I tried make qemu Apr 15 21:33:27 prav33n: didn't the premirror stuff work (where it gets it from downloads.openmoko.org first)? Apr 15 21:33:46 rwhitby: It didn't work for certain files Apr 15 21:33:53 prav33n: any, you're talking about upstream OE and OM stuff, not MokoMakefile stuff :-) Apr 15 21:34:05 rwhitby: Yeah, I realize that Apr 15 21:34:22 rwhitby: Just a suggestion for the upstream maintainers Apr 15 21:34:23 (I don't mind the loose terminology, but some other people react to it) Apr 15 21:34:43 rwhitby: OK Apr 15 21:34:49 rwhitby: I tried make qemu Apr 15 21:34:50 how did the qemu go? Apr 15 21:35:05 rwhitby: It opens up the qemu window Apr 15 21:35:10 rwhitby: But it is not responding Apr 15 21:35:28 rwhitby: I see the OpenMoto splash Apr 15 21:35:37 rwhitby: Then I get the uBoot menu Apr 15 21:35:48 then hit space to boot Apr 15 21:35:51 rwhitby: After than I am not able to do anything Apr 15 21:36:03 rwhitby: When I press enter, it is not responding Apr 15 21:36:09 try space Apr 15 21:36:17 rwhitby: Oh, OK Apr 15 21:36:35 then fix whatever wiki page said to use enter :-) Apr 15 21:36:49 rwhitby: Also after doing make qemu once, is it possible to invoke it later directly Apr 15 21:37:04 yes - make run-qemu :-) Apr 15 21:37:24 also make flash-qemu-official and make flash-qemu-local Apr 15 21:37:42 again, you can look at what commands those targets run if you want to run it by hand. Apr 15 21:38:36 rwhitby: Great! Apr 15 21:40:11 rwhitby: qemu is just booting my shiny OM platform Apr 15 21:40:34 The qemu emulator is really unstable for me. It segfaults about 80% of the time. Apr 15 21:42:14 any particular bits that seem to make it unhappy? Apr 15 21:43:18 It's when it's booting linux. Apr 15 21:43:36 it can depend. Apr 15 21:43:42 openmoko: 03mickey * r1777 10/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-apps/ (openmoko-terminal/gtkterm2rc openmoko-terminal_svn.bb): oe/openmoko-terminal: add proper resource file on install, fix DESCRIPTION and DEPENDS Apr 15 21:44:32 I've never had qemu segfault at all Apr 15 21:45:07 I somewhere heard that qemy seg faults on bad RAM Apr 15 21:45:26 I *am* using powerpc linux... Apr 15 21:45:26 But bad RAMs cause almost any program to segfault Apr 15 21:45:36 ebel: Oh, OK Apr 15 21:45:44 (hence I haven't been able to get xoo working.) Apr 15 21:45:53 ebel: I have never used a PowerPC host. Sorry! Apr 15 21:46:11 Oops! Apr 15 21:46:20 I experimented with the calendar app in qemu Apr 15 21:46:30 I haven't had other programmes crash, i might try one of those memtest programmes. Apr 15 21:46:31 I tried to resize the details window Apr 15 21:46:50 Now I am not able to perform any operations Apr 15 21:47:02 I am getting the resize cursor everwhere I click Apr 15 21:47:23 Is there a way to gracefully shutdown the OS running on qemu? Apr 15 21:47:54 maybe hold down space for 5 seconds Apr 15 21:47:56 get it to end itself Apr 15 21:48:11 (same as pushing power button for 5 seconds on real device) Apr 15 21:48:53 rwhitby: Space doesn't work Apr 15 21:50:57 just kill apex and re-run the flash-qemu-* makefile target to reinit the flash Apr 15 21:51:02 s/apex/qemu/ Apr 15 21:51:03 rwhitby meant: just kill qemu and re-run the flash-qemu-* makefile target to reinit the flash Apr 15 21:52:49 rwhitby: OK Apr 15 22:00:54 openmoko: 03mickey * r1778 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/devel/qmake/openmoko-include.pro: devel/qmake: include glib-genmarshal as additional compiler Apr 15 22:33:39 Is there a way to shutdown qemu gracefully? Apr 15 22:33:52 Pressing space for 5 seconds doesn't help Apr 15 23:12:24 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[User:Miki]] [[Wishlist:More/Custom_Input_Method_Widgets%26action]] [[Wishlist:More/Custom_Input_Method_Widgets]] [[Wish_List]] [[Translation]] [[Current_events]] [[User:Mickey]] Apr 16 01:06:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wishlist:Games]] [[Talk:IM]] [[Wishlist:More/Custom_Input_Method_Widgets]] Apr 16 02:33:23 (script) planet: Koen Kooi: ELC 2007 http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/elc-2007 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 16 02:59:57 2007