**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 23 02:59:57 2007 Aug 23 03:01:07 Hm, what do the leds on the debug board mean? Aug 23 03:02:05 (I see LEDs 1, 2 and 7 on and LED 5 off after plugging it on the computer just to see what happens) Aug 23 03:02:33 btw, is it normal for the debug board (plugged only on the computer) to make a high-frequency noise? Aug 23 03:03:00 it's armed and ready to blow Aug 23 03:04:44 And mine doesn't seem to have CE2 and CE3 Aug 23 03:06:44 but it has c4 Aug 23 03:06:50 :) Aug 23 03:08:06 cesarb: we've got the debug board schematics now - look it up on there :-) Aug 23 03:08:59 rwhitby: thanks, I had completely forgotten it was already available Aug 23 03:10:36 LED1 and 2 are the power before and after the regulator, and 5 and 7 come from the FTDI chip... Aug 23 03:23:54 * rwhitby successfully completes the daily SVNNOW rebuild of many svn packages on 32 bit debian etch Aug 23 03:25:21 I build most days on Debian Etch and CentOS 5, both using MokoMakefile and the nslu2-linux Master Makefile. The nslu2-linux autobuilder also builds continuously on Debian Etch. Aug 23 03:25:30 (all 32 bit) Aug 23 03:26:04 Is it normal for libgsmd-tool -m atcmd to return no response at all from gsmd to your commands? Aug 23 03:27:11 cesarb: ATE1 means echo commands. In all cases you should get "OK" Aug 23 03:27:18 Standard Hayes modem Aug 23 03:27:51 You may need to follow the notes here; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM#Connecting_to_GSM_Modem Aug 23 03:29:30 hads: I'm trying to use gsmd passthrough, not direct talking to the modem Aug 23 03:29:44 hads: the modem is answering fine, or so gsmd sayd in its console spam Aug 23 03:29:44 OK Aug 23 03:30:02 cesarb: How does -m shell look? Aug 23 03:30:14 * cesarb was just curious what some interesting commands (like the list of network operators from -m shell) answered Aug 23 03:30:27 sagacis: same thing... doesn't answer Aug 23 03:30:45 Grrr. My openmoko-calculator2 failed again! Aug 23 03:30:52 build, that is. Aug 23 03:31:10 i dun get my u-boot prompt but i get my cdc device. anyone is expert in using cu? Aug 23 03:31:47 jipi: Try screen /dev/foo 115200 Aug 23 03:31:50 jipi: just do "cu -l /dev/ttyACM0" Aug 23 03:35:58 Hm, I'm getting the impression that libgsmd-tool simply isn't talking to gsmd Aug 23 03:36:16 * arw1 see ypu people Aug 23 03:36:21 i dun get anything... i'm actually in the devirginating process. Aug 23 03:36:41 i got the ttyACM0 device coming up after devirginate -1 Aug 23 03:36:53 but no smiley faces Aug 23 03:37:52 how long do i ahve to wait before devirginate -1 finishes? Aug 23 03:38:47 its late (ugt). gotta go Aug 23 03:39:52 do_install task fails for libmokogsmd2 Aug 23 03:41:32 and the error is : no rule to make target install. And configure and compile tasks ran successfully Aug 23 03:44:02 * cesarb is starting to think he has either a buggy gsmd or a buggy libgsm-tool Aug 23 03:44:25 Does anyone know if libgsmd-tool -m shell actually works on the august snapshot? Aug 23 03:45:23 cesarb, is your gsmd started? Aug 23 03:45:26 cesarb: it works for me.... Aug 23 03:45:38 hmmm... i can get the console on a normal unbricked neo. but couldn't on the one i'm trying to revive Aug 23 03:46:17 sagacis|neo_: I started it with "gsmd -p /dev/ttySAC0 -s 115200 -F" after powering up the modem, as explained on the wiki, and the debug messages from gsmd show answers from the modem Aug 23 03:46:52 sagacis|neo_: but gsmd prints nothing extra no matter what I do on either atcmd or shell on the libgsmd-tool Aug 23 03:47:58 * cesarb is powering the neo off to go to sleep Aug 23 03:48:13 im using /etc/init.d/gsmd stop/start noow Aug 23 03:48:18 openmoko: 03laforge * r2797 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): move current kernel patches from trunk to 2.6.21.x branch Aug 23 03:48:21 much easier Aug 23 03:49:29 openmoko: 03laforge * r2798 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): move 2.6.22.x patches into trunk Aug 23 03:49:33 great.now i gott restart the build :) Aug 23 03:51:08 does libmokogsmd2 install easily Aug 23 03:52:15 sagacis: howdy Aug 23 03:52:47 openmoko: 03laforge * r2799 10/trunk/oe/packages/linux/ (linux-gta01_2.6.21.6.bb linux-gta01_2.6.22.1.bb): reflect svn path changes between 2.6.21 and 2.6.22 patchset in oe recipe Aug 23 03:52:53 * jaebird thinks sagacis has typing issues on his neo :) Aug 23 03:54:07 openmoko: 03laforge * r2800 10/trunk/oe/packages/linux/linux-gta01_2.6.22.5.bb: add recipe for 2.6.22.5 kernel Aug 23 03:54:13 hm, my neo's poweroff sequence seems to have gotten stuck, and the "cool colorful flaming splash image" hides the console output which would tell me why Aug 23 03:54:36 * cesarb does the five-second salute instead Aug 23 03:57:05 openmoko: 03laforge * r2801 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/ (p/ patches/): moving directory to temporary name Aug 23 03:57:51 openmoko: 03laforge * r2802 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/ (p/patches/ patches/): move patches directory to the right location in the tree Aug 23 03:59:23 Is it normal that the battery gets warm after a couple of hours of it being used with the USB plugged in? Aug 23 03:59:49 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[MokoMakefile]] [[Repositories]] Aug 23 04:01:51 Sounds pretty standard Aug 23 04:03:13 * CM yawns Aug 23 04:05:38 openmoko: 03laforge * r2805 10/branches/src/target/kernel/ (2.6.21.x/patches/ 2.6.21.x-patches/): move 2.6.21 patches to their final location Aug 23 04:05:38 openmoko: 03laforge * r2804 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.21.x/: cretae new 2.6.21.x dir Aug 23 04:05:38 openmoko: 03laforge * r2803 10/branches/src/target/kernel/ (2.6.21.x/ 2.6.21.x-patches/): move directory to temp location Aug 23 04:18:55 silly question.. can the arm on the moko run big-endian? Aug 23 04:19:03 s/moko/neo/ Aug 23 04:19:03 hozer meant: silly question.. can the arm on the neo run big-endian? Aug 23 04:34:45 hozer: I think arm can run both big or small :) Aug 23 04:36:44 yeah, arm runs either Aug 23 04:37:45 okay.. so why do I have a 2.6.21.6-moko11 kernel from the 20070813 snapshot on my phone, and what I thought was the lastest checkout from oe/mtn/mokomakefile is 2.6.21.5-moko10 Aug 23 04:40:11 openmoko: 03laforge * r2806 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/src/gsmd/ (atcmd.c gsmd.c): fix mlbuf handling (Phillip Zabel) Aug 23 04:42:18 hozer: daniel org.oe.dev * rb10ad1f1... / (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-gta01: Add version 2.6.21.6 from OpenMoko svn overlay Aug 23 04:43:28 hozer: Probably because it was just recently added to oe.dev from the svn overlay Aug 23 04:46:25 Is there a working web browser for the 2007.2? Aug 23 04:47:51 gcb77 not yet. its beeing worked on and already looks pretty cool Aug 23 04:48:05 http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/Browsing.mpg Aug 23 04:54:05 moin Aug 23 04:57:14 alphaone: ah, nifty.. but doesn't monotone support distributed repositories? why can't we use a monotone fork instead of svn overlays and such Aug 23 04:58:03 roh: Cool :) Aug 23 04:59:44 hozer: That's being discussed. Aug 23 05:00:19 And with 2007.2 we already got rid of the svn overlay. Aug 23 05:00:37 good Aug 23 05:01:04 * hozer wonders if there is a good monotone <-> mercurial tool Aug 23 05:01:23 mostly cause I don't want to have to lean monotone Aug 23 05:17:02 damnit Aug 23 05:17:27 <4>rxrpc: Unknown symbol __aeabi_idiv Aug 23 05:17:48 is this a build problem, or something I need to clean up in the rxrpc kernel code? Aug 23 05:59:49 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[P1_Owners]] [[SH1_FAQ]] [[User_talk:HaraldWelte]] [[Phase_1_Software_Testing]] Aug 23 06:24:56 yooo good morning mokolandia Aug 23 06:29:55 xkr47: mornin' Aug 23 06:30:12 coffe ftw Aug 23 06:32:33 anyone here working with the openmoko daily ? Aug 23 06:46:07 is binutils in svn broken? Aug 23 06:57:39 rwhitby: hi, the MokoMakefile wiki page says to report errors to you Aug 23 07:02:15 dsilva: did you make update-makefile && make setup && make update && make clean-package-% ? Aug 23 07:02:29 oh yeah, and make all Aug 23 07:02:37 mrface: yep Aug 23 07:02:47 what's failing? Aug 23 07:02:57 when it tries to compile binutils Aug 23 07:03:20 gcc exits with /binutils/bucomm.c:107: error: 'TARGET' undeclared Aug 23 07:04:36 sounds like someone checked in bad code, there has been a lot of that lately, but it's usually fixed rather quickly Aug 23 07:04:43 not a makefile problem Aug 23 07:05:19 i thought basic things like binutils would come pretty much untouched from upstream? Aug 23 07:06:19 almost everything has patches Aug 23 07:06:54 you can see the patches in this dir: openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils-cvs/ Aug 23 07:07:04 oh Aug 23 07:07:38 hmm, so i guess for now I should wait a bit Aug 23 07:07:54 is there somewhere I can get a binary package of the dev tools? Aug 23 07:08:11 I don't want to build an openmoko image, just ARM binaries that I can scp to my phone Aug 23 07:08:13 I ran into this 3 or 4 times today and within an hour it was fixed Aug 23 07:08:27 yes Aug 23 07:09:12 check it: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.08/ipk/armv4t/ Aug 23 07:09:22 a few days old though Aug 23 07:10:41 the .ipk files are packages for the phone, right? ARM binaries? Aug 23 07:11:01 yes, scp them to the phone and run "ipkg install *.ipk" Aug 23 07:11:09 ah ok Aug 23 07:11:20 I was wondering about a cross-compiler tool though :) Aug 23 07:11:44 you want to compile things ON the phone? Aug 23 07:11:57 I want to compile on my x86, but with the phone as the target Aug 23 07:13:10 I think if you have mokomakefile running, you should be all set for that right? why would you need binutils to compile? Aug 23 07:14:06 binutils has the assembler and linker Aug 23 07:14:23 omg, I just said something really stupid didn't I? Aug 23 07:14:37 ok, hmm. I don't know what to tell you then Aug 23 07:15:46 hmm I guess everyone builds it with mokomakefile from source then :) Aug 23 07:16:05 ok, I'll wait until the error is fixed Aug 23 07:16:09 thanks Aug 23 07:18:01 I wonder if there's an easy way to get an earlier revision and use that? Aug 23 07:18:54 I guess I would svn up an older revision Aug 23 07:22:08 do you know where the moko/sources/*.tar.bz2 filenames and source URLs? Aug 23 07:22:15 er, where they come from? Aug 23 07:24:53 I think the best bet would be to temporarily modify the binutils bitbake file Aug 23 07:25:36 for example: Aug 23 07:25:38 cp openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils_2.17.bb openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils_cvs.bb Aug 23 07:26:26 then, until you do an update, it should pull 2.17 Aug 23 07:26:43 oh i see Aug 23 07:26:49 let me try that.. Aug 23 07:29:34 Running task 200 of 4356 (ID: 1505, /home/dsilva/motodev/openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils-cross_2.17.50.0.5.bb, do_compile) Aug 23 07:29:53 hmm, it still tried 2.17.50.0.5 Aug 23 07:30:44 I thought you said it was cvs? Aug 23 07:31:21 not sure, I just ran "make clean-package-binutils" and make all Aug 23 07:31:36 hmm Aug 23 07:32:00 ~/motodev/openembedded/packages/binutils$ ls *.bb |wc -l Aug 23 07:32:09 35 Aug 23 07:32:46 there's 35 bitbake recipes there I guess, and apparently 2.17.50.0.5 is being used Aug 23 07:32:46 oh I see, yes it's using the bitbake recipe for 2.17.50.0.5 Aug 23 07:33:01 where is that choice made? Aug 23 07:33:17 yeah, so just try copying one of the others over binutils-cross_2.17.50.0.5.bb Aug 23 07:33:25 yeah... I don't know Aug 23 07:33:35 that's why I'm suggesting this hack ;) Aug 23 07:33:40 hehe Aug 23 07:34:49 binutils 2.17.50.0.5 is working Aug 23 07:35:09 you don't get a build error? Aug 23 07:35:30 oh, haha, it must have been fixed already Aug 23 07:35:46 I built 2.17.50.0.5 for months Aug 23 07:35:49 last time today Aug 23 07:36:52 yeah, 2.17 didn't work for me either Aug 23 07:36:59 i must have set something up incorrectly then Aug 23 07:38:53 * * OM Bug 745 has been created by emreturkay(AT)gmail.com Aug 23 07:38:54 * * gnome-system-tools Aug 23 07:38:55 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=745 Aug 23 07:54:38 that was weird... I blew away build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.17.50.0.5-r1, updated, cleaned, and reran make, and it got past binutils now Aug 23 07:55:02 oh wait Aug 23 07:55:06 nevermind.. Aug 23 07:56:06 I finished a mokomakefile build this morning without any problems Aug 23 07:56:34 Guess something changed very recently? Aug 23 07:56:52 maybe, since I'm getting a different error from 10 minutes ago right now Aug 23 07:57:11 now i get a make error: No rule to make target `configure-build-libiberty'. Stop. Aug 23 07:57:28 Strange Aug 23 07:58:23 are there stable source releases of the openmoko tree or does everyone use the trunk? Aug 23 07:58:42 Nothing stable at all yet, afaik Aug 23 07:58:58 ok Aug 23 08:00:29 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin]] [[P1_Owners]] Aug 23 08:04:31 guess I'll try again in the morning :) thanks for the info Aug 23 08:27:36 openmoko: 03laforge * r2807 10/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/src/main.c: version number printout has not been implemented yet Aug 23 08:29:05 openmoko: 03laforge * r2808 10/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/src/main.c: Aug 23 08:29:05 openmoko: dfu-util --reset (-R) does not take an argument. Closes Aug 23 08:29:05 openmoko: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=652 Aug 23 08:31:35 openmoko: 03laforge * r2809 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-dfu.patch: use correct bNumConfigurations value (1, not 5) Aug 23 08:59:20 hhhrm Aug 23 09:00:38 good morning Aug 23 09:05:16 Morning? at 11:05? Aug 23 09:05:32 ~ugt Aug 23 09:05:33 rumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Aug 23 09:06:53 * * OM Bug 746 has been created by Aug 23 09:06:55 * * linux-gta01-2.6.21.5-r3-do_prepatch Aug 23 09:06:55 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=746 Aug 23 09:10:39 apt: haha Aug 23 09:10:40 I call that haha Aug 23 09:20:19 ~zap lrg Aug 23 09:20:20 * apt takes out a cattle prod and gives lrg a good jolt. Aug 23 09:20:47 ? Aug 23 09:21:22 ouch Aug 23 09:42:48 ~praise ScaredyCat Aug 23 09:42:49 All hail ScaredyCat! Aug 23 09:42:54 * FuzzyCat dances Aug 23 09:48:00 hi, someone there Aug 23 09:48:33 is there any solution to get the changelog for the daily openmoko builds? Aug 23 09:49:31 or doesnt exists one? Aug 23 09:50:43 ccube: there are rss feeds for openmoko and openembedded commits Aug 23 09:51:40 http://cia.vc/stats/project/openembedded/.rss and http://cia.vc/stats/project/openmoko/.rss Aug 23 09:51:58 hey, cool Aug 23 09:52:04 exactly what im searching for!!! Aug 23 09:52:06 ccube: your fee for that information is to put it on the wiki somewhere. Aug 23 09:52:15 hehe Aug 23 09:56:53 thx 4 it Aug 23 09:57:00 ill put it in the wiki Aug 23 09:57:13 i hope to the right place... Aug 23 10:03:14 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_openmoko#Files_to_download Aug 23 10:03:18 put it here! ;) Aug 23 10:03:26 my first wiki-edit, hehe Aug 23 10:23:52 how i may setup alsa to play mp3 with console using madplay? Aug 23 10:25:56 alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore Aug 23 10:26:46 zecke: I miss the logs from the autobuilder bugreports. Only one sentence with timestamp is not really helpful when I like to verify if the bug is still valid. Aug 23 10:28:11 my neo is reporting no sound cards on boot!! Aug 23 10:28:39 torpor: I does this all the time. We load the sound module later. Aug 23 10:30:02 hi everyone, new openmoko here ... and need some help flashing Aug 23 10:30:19 I'm getting "No DFU capable USB device found" with dfu-utils Aug 23 10:30:44 lsusb show "Bus 001 Device 007: ID 1457:5122" Aug 23 10:30:52 stefan_schmidt: currently I ask you to go to ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox and check the build log Aug 23 10:31:02 stefan_schmidt: and I wonder why the full build takes sooooo long :) Aug 23 10:31:21 zecke: webkit and his qmake dep? Aug 23 10:31:37 zecke: 306min from scratch on my system Aug 23 10:31:52 zecke: try as root Aug 23 10:31:54 hmm Aug 23 10:32:06 zecke: ups Aug 23 10:32:16 vivo: you try as root ;) Aug 23 10:32:18 zecke: hmm, the log inside the bugreport was way more handy. Aug 23 10:32:49 stefan_schmidt: I agree, and I will take a look but my slave job keeps me busy :) Aug 23 10:32:54 I'm root , I'm also in a chroot :) (with /proc/bus/usb mounted ) Aug 23 10:33:01 zecke: heh, ok Aug 23 10:33:20 I amuse myself with building qtopia :} Aug 23 10:33:47 stefan_schmidt: the phone also recognize the usb link Aug 23 10:34:22 vivo: Do you mean me? Aug 23 10:34:56 stefan_schmidt: hem no, DPThought, sorry Aug 23 10:35:01 ok Aug 23 10:39:54 does this error mean something for anyone? Aug 23 10:39:54 ioctl(3, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0x7fffb6da7d50) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) Aug 23 10:40:32 vivo look what an ioctl is Aug 23 10:41:42 vivo: you need to be root Aug 23 10:41:54 vivo: root root not root in chroot Aug 23 10:42:32 I am and now I'm trying outside the chroot, , maybe I need to mount something in /dev Aug 23 10:42:59 btw, this is a gentoo linux box Aug 23 10:45:13 openmoko: 03chris * r2810 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-today2/ (ChangeLog src/today-launcher.c): Load .desktop files asynchronously (sort of) Aug 23 10:45:43 to flash om, does not mater that openmoko is stopped in kernel panic right ? Aug 23 10:46:44 you flash it from the boot menu, kernel shouldnt be running Aug 23 10:47:25 ahh, which RTFM I've missed then, how do I enter in boot menu ? Aug 23 10:47:39 hold the extra button in while you power it on Aug 23 10:49:50 Psi_: you own a beer, also the device id change from 5122 to 5119 Aug 23 10:49:57 thanks :) Aug 23 10:50:01 heh Aug 23 10:50:08 no prob Aug 23 10:50:18 dont flash uboot Aug 23 10:50:32 did it right now :( Aug 23 10:50:43 with om2007.2 Aug 23 10:50:52 did you buy the advanced kit Aug 23 10:50:58 yes Aug 23 10:51:02 ah, thats ok then Aug 23 10:51:18 its just that if uboot fails you need the debug board to get it back Aug 23 10:51:19 * vivo smiles again and heart restart Aug 23 10:51:23 without one you are stuck Aug 23 10:52:11 you can flash uboot without a debug board, just as long is the flash works :P Aug 23 10:52:51 there isnt really any need to flash uboot that i know of, im still using the one that came with the neo Aug 23 10:53:05 luckily it's a copy and flash after the file is in memory Aug 23 10:53:24 with less chanches to broke Aug 23 10:54:23 I'll not flash it too often anyway, it's suggested in the wiky for SH1 Aug 23 10:54:42 yeah and the thing is, if you flash uboot, and the flash burns, you are also not necessarily screwed as long as you don't *reboot*, and instead do do a good uboot burn at least once. Aug 23 10:54:51 its perfectly safe to flash uboot if you have the debugboard :) Aug 23 10:55:21 its also safe to flash uboot as long as you actually do flash uboot. which is to say, you can screw it up once or twice, not reboot, then get it righton the 3rd try .. Aug 23 10:55:30 Psi_: with a little point you need to know how to use i :) Aug 23 10:55:36 just trying to say, there is always hope to fix a dud u-boot, at least once before you need the debug board. Aug 23 10:55:52 ... use it :) Aug 23 10:56:18 torpor: yeah some adrenaline is needed sometime Aug 23 10:56:23 vivo, ? Aug 23 10:56:35 anyway i flashed my neo with the build from aug20 .. anyone know if theres newer stuff around or should i start stuffing .ipk's into this one for now? Aug 23 10:56:50 vivo: adrenalin or misery. in my case, i'm a sucker for misery coz i'm so damn cheery. Aug 23 10:57:15 Psi_: it was autoironic, I need to know how to use the debug board and that it's not at the moment Aug 23 10:57:29 torpor: lol Aug 23 10:57:37 torpor: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openmoko/ has ipks from the autobuilder I run Aug 23 10:57:54 rwhitby: noi-ce!! Aug 23 10:58:05 vivo, i dont have a debugboard, so dunno how to use it Aug 23 10:58:12 put an ..../unstable on the end of that for the ipk area Aug 23 10:58:15 lol thanks LaF0rge Aug 23 10:58:22 question for you rwhitby: Aug 23 10:58:30 have you taken your neo to the beach! Aug 23 10:58:33 ? Aug 23 10:58:43 nope, it's a bit cold for the beach at the moment Aug 23 10:58:52 bah! pommy bastard! Aug 23 10:58:54 ;) Aug 23 10:59:13 i'd be there fer sure right now if i could. cold or not. but wait, you're in melbourne so its .. quite cold, eh? Aug 23 10:59:21 adelaide Aug 23 10:59:29 ah, crap beaches, right. Aug 23 10:59:50 I grew up on the Gold Coast, so yes. Aug 23 11:00:00 hah Aug 23 11:00:07 still, beaches are crap in queensland. Aug 23 11:00:12 too many tourists. Aug 23 11:00:19 bah. compared to where? Aug 23 11:00:20 not enough sharks. Aug 23 11:00:25 :-D Aug 23 11:00:26 WEST COAST obviously! Aug 23 11:00:41 heh, yeah, no tourists at perth beaches, right. Aug 23 11:00:53 we only get the truly devoted ones, at least. Aug 23 11:01:00 hardly *anyone* goes to perth, after all. Aug 23 11:01:00 plenty of sharks where I learnt to dive on the great barrier reef. Aug 23 11:01:16 sure, but they weren't the touristy crunchy bitey kind, eh? Aug 23 11:01:37 great f'in WHITESHARKs just coming right up on shore, practically, to chomp Aug 23 11:02:00 <-- homesick Aug 23 11:03:12 if the ausis would not scare all tourists away with warnings of creatures that will either poison or eat you the moment you enter the country... :) Aug 23 11:03:37 are there none that will poison you and _then_ eat you? Aug 23 11:04:37 there might be - the comodo dragon? Aug 23 11:04:43 Komodo maybe... Aug 23 11:06:06 cjb: some snakes will poison and then try to eat you. Aug 23 11:06:18 * CM is afraid of the drop bears Aug 23 11:06:33 cover your ears when you walk under overpasses. Aug 23 11:06:54 And keep a look out for the bunyips too Aug 23 11:08:16 sharkteeth is poisonou Aug 23 11:08:18 +s Aug 23 11:08:33 Infectious might be the word Aug 23 11:09:04 They are all no match for our Wolpertinger Aug 23 11:09:19 CM: no, you will die if they touch you. Aug 23 11:09:27 :-P Aug 23 11:09:43 DPThought: *lol* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wolpertinger.jpg Aug 23 11:09:58 its not just a little infection. its a huge fuck off CHMP-CHOMP-CHOMP-Shark removal of limbs and tonsils Aug 23 11:10:48 http://www.geocities.com/muirnin/Dropbear.jpg Aug 23 11:11:53 rwhitby: lol Aug 23 11:36:29 when was mokomakefile support for 2007.2 completed? Aug 23 11:37:17 cbrake: i would say the alpha happened late last week .. Aug 23 11:37:30 just from what i saw in here anyway Aug 23 11:38:30 Hi all, bulding recent OM2007.2 fails after a short period of time( [update-openembedded] fails) Aug 23 11:38:53 http://pastebin.com/m2cddc464 Aug 23 11:40:21 Risto: looks like multiple heads, I'll merge them. Give me a few minutes ... Aug 23 11:40:32 argh, i am midbuild Aug 23 11:41:44 torpor: then ctrl-c it, update and start Aug 23 11:41:53 say when Aug 23 11:42:20 Risto: you can probably temp work around this by "cd openembedded;mtn merge" Aug 23 11:42:35 cbrake: Thanks! Aug 23 11:47:03 seems I'am doing something wrong with 'mtn merge' ... ? Aug 23 11:47:07 christoph@brain:/home/moko/openembedded$ mtn merge Aug 23 11:47:07 mtn: 2 Köpfe auf Zweig 'org.openembedded.dev' Aug 23 11:47:07 mtn: [links] a81be4a9e6a337df1765dd0899498f17ec68c272 Aug 23 11:47:07 mtn: [rechts] bb0941c6eb0d7eb6f9d46101e8bc68c672d6ccc4 Aug 23 11:47:07 mtn: falscher Gebrauch: Sie haben keinen geheimen Schlüssel, um Signaturen zu erstellen. Aug 23 11:47:08 mtn: falscher Gebrauch: Eventuell müssen Sie 'genkey ' ausführen. Aug 23 11:47:37 risto wait 5 minutes Aug 23 11:47:44 we have automerger in oe Aug 23 11:48:53 Risto: the HEAD of OE seems to be merged right now, so if you "mtn pull && mtn update" that might take care of it. Aug 23 11:53:51 why does the openmoko makefile check out the entire openmoko svn tree? Aug 23 11:56:11 (script) openmoko-community: "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" Re: 2007.2 compilation failed with package uicmoc4-native-4.0.3 Aug 23 12:01:59 good morning Aug 23 12:09:44 hi Aug 23 12:13:47 there seems to be a syntax error somewhere in the repository. when i trie to compile the image i get: "svn: Syntax-Error in Revision-Parameter '{now}'" and it tries to downlod :http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/trunk_svn.o-hand.com_.repos.eds-dbus__now.tar.gz Aug 23 12:13:49 rwhitby's Makefile seems to have undergone some major surgery Aug 23 12:16:05 any suggestions? Aug 23 12:22:31 (script) planet: Michael "mickeyl" Lauer: Conferences Ahead http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/08/23/conferences-ahead-2/ Aug 23 12:25:01 cbrake: it checks out the whole tree cause that was what the original official build instructions said to do. I agree that it's not necessary, and at some point (once I work out how to do a seamless transisiton) I'll probably change the makefile to only check out trunk/src Aug 23 12:27:52 DukeOfURL: the surgery was to migrate from 2007.1 to 2007.2 Aug 23 12:28:45 werner666: you don't tell us what instructions you are using to compile the image, nor do you give us the commands you typed and the context of the error. pastebin is your friend. Aug 23 12:31:03 rwhitby: if you're ever in Denver I'll buy dinner--or at least drinks. Aug 23 12:31:35 * rwhitby now has a tab in SF and Denver - bring on my next business trip to the US ... Aug 23 12:32:04 i followed the instructions at the MokoMakefile-wiki page and before building the image i changed the local.conf forXephyr, i dont think i did something wring Aug 23 12:32:49 pastebin your local.conf and the local of the commands that you typed and the error log you got. Aug 23 12:33:08 k Aug 23 12:40:27 http://pastebin.com/d598d603a Aug 23 12:47:13 w00t! 2007.2 built for me, first time ever :) Aug 23 12:47:57 werner666: and if you remove the SRCDATE line from your local.conf it builds fine? Aug 23 12:52:29 hey, its working :), thx Aug 23 12:53:19 werner666: best local.conf is DISTRO/MACHINE and DL_DIR - nothing more Aug 23 12:54:23 ok, i should notice that on the wiki-page Aug 23 12:54:30 hrw: openmoko site.conf does DL_DIR for you, so you can remove that line too Aug 23 12:54:39 2007.2 build successful, flash successful, I'm more excited now than ever. Aug 23 12:56:42 congrats Aug 23 12:56:57 please post it about it... it's about time for some success stories to contrast the "can't get to build anything" :D Aug 23 12:56:59 hehe lol Aug 23 12:57:07 hello moko! Aug 23 12:57:20 *knockknock* Aug 23 12:57:39 mickeyl: 2007.2 built for me too! :) Aug 23 12:57:48 congrats to rwhitby, mickeyl, and all the others! Aug 23 12:57:52 * srm get's struck by an copyright-infringment-guy Aug 23 12:57:58 *a Aug 23 12:57:59 gordonsyme: yay! :) Aug 23 12:58:53 And it looks great too :) Aug 23 12:59:21 rwhitby: and I did - in their site.conf Aug 23 12:59:34 is there a way to put the Neo into sleep mode? Aug 23 12:59:50 rwhitby: I have DL_DIR on nfs server shared between all my boxes Aug 23 13:00:22 hrw: I just symlink to a common directory :-) Aug 23 13:00:27 mickeyl: fairly certain that xtscal doesn't run when /etc/pointercal isn't there. I removed the pointercal recommended dep from openembedded/packages/tslib/tslib_1.0.bb and rebuilt. No pointer calibration routine and no usable clicking. Where should I file a bug? OpenMoko or OpenEmbedded? Aug 23 13:00:58 OE Aug 23 13:01:03 DukeOfURL: 2007.2 has a menu on the power button press-and-hold-a-short-while Aug 23 13:01:04 although that really surprises me Aug 23 13:01:25 mickeyl: I am running it in qemu, not sure if that makes a difference... Aug 23 13:01:50 full PM? Aug 23 13:02:09 ahhhh Aug 23 13:02:12 goes to sleep after about 1.4 nano seconds Aug 23 13:02:48 gordonsyme: the clicking is 90 degrees rotated in qemu Aug 23 13:03:23 rwhitby: normally, yes. I removed the pointercal package and don't seem to have any clicking at all Aug 23 13:05:49 I didn't get the screen registration screen after flashing. Aug 23 13:06:45 mickeyl - BTW: Didn't you intend to commit my dialer1 patch despite .1 being dead? ;o) Aug 23 13:07:35 Elrond: will do it right now. have the bugnumber handy? Aug 23 13:07:51 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[P1_Owners]] [[User_talk:HaraldWelte]] [[OpenMoko2007.2/ru]] [[Flashing_openmoko]] [[User:Cray]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Athens]] [[Translation]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups]] [[Buying_Interest_List]] Aug 23 13:08:41 mickeyl - #631 :) Aug 23 13:09:22 Toshiba will start selling an 8GB Micro SDHC card in January 2008.. Nice! Aug 23 13:09:26 do you think we can have a neo with some mass storeage.... Aug 23 13:09:39 I man, now that I've got mysql installed... Aug 23 13:09:43 mean Aug 23 13:09:53 * FuzzyCat muwhahahas Aug 23 13:10:03 4GB microSD is not mass storage? Aug 23 13:10:08 FuzzyCat: Not Postgres? Aug 23 13:10:18 mickeyl: your adding of directfb to depends of gst-plugins-bad doesnt seem to fix the problem Aug 23 13:10:27 openmoko: 03mickey * r2811 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-main.c: openmoko-dialer1: don't segfault if dbus is not running. thanks Elrond. closes #631 Aug 23 13:10:41 CM: not yet :) Aug 23 13:10:46 Hehe Aug 23 13:10:55