**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 13 02:59:56 2007 Dec 13 03:02:24 where is the "getting started/building your dev envirnment" for openmoko? Dec 13 03:11:19 All over the wiki. Dec 13 03:13:51 Aria: I am a moron Dec 13 03:13:53 thanks :] Dec 13 03:14:01 Sure. Dec 13 03:37:12 hey guys, I got an error monotone: error: database schema 629da44000ed5d20e2fe6b4d3abc06bc06a91362 is unknown; cannot perform migration from the mokomakefile, any ideas/ Dec 13 03:42:41 You've got a newer monotone. There's a command somewhere on the wiki explaining how to migrate the db to the new format Dec 13 03:42:53 Something along the line of mtn migrate, with something specifying the DB Dec 13 03:42:56 Been a while since I did it. Dec 13 03:44:46 will check it out, thanks Dec 13 03:47:56 bkruse: what version of monotone? Dec 13 03:49:28 you might want to get the snapshot which matches your version of monotone Dec 13 03:50:20 rwhitby: 0.24 Dec 13 07:10:18 jouston: Nice logo in the grass ;) Dec 13 07:10:39 jouston: But why not a full rss feed from your blog? Dec 13 07:24:10 good morning Dec 13 07:27:01 * * OM Bug 1128 has been created by cm(AT)acc.umu.se Dec 13 07:27:02 * * matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod fails on fic-gta01-font-size.patch Dec 13 07:27:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1128 Dec 13 07:28:12 morning Dec 13 07:28:21 Morning :) Dec 13 08:05:32 moin Dec 13 08:07:29 moin Dec 13 08:09:38 moin :) Dec 13 08:23:20 mickey|ICE972: what do you do as a sport may I ask ? Dec 13 08:28:20 openmoko: 03laforge * r3648 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-gta02.patch: Use correct Smedia Glamo 3362 timings (Chia-I Wu) (Closes: #1017) Dec 13 08:30:17 CVirus: mainly tabletennis (league), squash (hobby). in summer additionally frisbee etc. Dec 13 08:30:53 mickey|ICE972: so you're not the typical smoking-beer-belly geek ? Dec 13 08:31:09 :-)\ Dec 13 08:32:00 not really, no. living relatively healthy. got about 15 kilos too much but this will change soon Dec 13 08:32:21 no smoking, only some beers @ fosdem ;) Dec 13 08:33:05 too much coffee though Dec 13 08:33:12 and probably not enough sleep Dec 13 08:33:16 but hey, can't get everything :) Dec 13 08:34:33 hehe Dec 13 08:34:56 mickey|ICE972: How much coffee is too much? I need a reference.. ;) Dec 13 08:35:35 Average per person and day in sweden is 5.5 cups, only finland is worse with 6.5 cups per person/day... Dec 13 08:35:40 5 cups per day of caffeine is too much Dec 13 08:36:29 caffeine_d_ Dec 13 08:36:29 trying to limit myself to 2 and the rest decaf then Dec 13 08:36:56 whew Dec 13 08:36:56 5.5 cups average? Dec 13 08:36:56 that's not healthy Dec 13 08:37:07 I haven't noticed any problems.. Dec 13 08:37:37 what is a cup for you? Dec 13 08:37:39 Usually here, coffee at 8, 10, 12, 15, for the breaks at work Dec 13 08:38:01 Then maybe one around 17, and one after dinner :D Dec 13 08:38:02 one of this big things, or just this small 200ml cups? Dec 13 08:38:15 * CM has about 1.5 dl mug Dec 13 08:38:32 big things of course Dec 13 08:38:32 :D Dec 13 08:38:34 probably 350ml Dec 13 08:38:38 ok Dec 13 08:38:38 Hehe Dec 13 08:38:46 =) Dec 13 08:38:51 i would guess i drink 5-7 of this per day Dec 13 08:39:16 My friend tried to get her dad to drink less, and he promised only 2 cups per day.. Dec 13 08:39:33 And went and bought a 0.75 litre insulated mug :) Dec 13 08:39:41 =D Dec 13 08:39:43 hahaha Dec 13 08:39:44 cheating Dec 13 08:39:46 :) Dec 13 08:39:55 LOL Dec 13 08:40:18 i get free coffee at work, that makes me drink lots of coffee there :P Dec 13 08:40:55 ya, that's dangeours Dec 13 08:40:55 used to work in kindergarten for 2 years Dec 13 08:41:05 what could be a good stimulant other that caffeine and nicotine ? Dec 13 08:41:06 man, that was tough Dec 13 08:41:08 they brewed new coffee every 30 minutes Dec 13 08:41:12 CVirus: girls? Dec 13 08:41:23 mickey|ICE972: can't get that ... more suggestions ? Dec 13 08:41:38 CVirus: code? Dec 13 08:41:39 gadgetsÃŸ Dec 13 08:41:39 ? Dec 13 08:41:39 :D Dec 13 08:41:46 LOL Dec 13 08:41:55 girls, code, gadgets, music, sports Dec 13 08:42:21 fear of impending violent death. Dec 13 08:42:34 * SpeedEvil lets the velociraptors loose. Dec 13 08:42:47 that's about my portfolio Dec 13 08:43:31 i still have a question regarding charging. is this controlled from a daemon inside linux somehow? i run out of battery with connected usb when i connect after booting. it seems that charging is started by u-boot fine but not in linux... Dec 13 08:43:32 I drink around big cups a day Dec 13 08:43:35 stupid free coffee Dec 13 08:43:41 in the last place I had to pay for it Dec 13 08:43:45 didn't drink that much Dec 13 08:43:46 ewon: Just drink around it? Dec 13 08:43:57 heh Dec 13 08:43:57 right Dec 13 08:44:05 s/around/around 5/ Dec 13 08:44:16 emdete: what does the respective sysfs nodes show? Dec 13 08:44:35 mickey|ICE972: batvolt is decreasing. Dec 13 08:44:46 chg_mode ? Dec 13 08:44:57 mickey|ICE972: charge current is 17000 (17A?) Dec 13 08:45:08 is the device plugged into a port that can supply 500mA - not an unpowered hub Dec 13 08:45:10 sounds like a bug, check chg_mode Dec 13 08:45:36 try reconnecting usb as well. sometimes it loses usb connection here Dec 13 08:45:48 mode (sry, neo if off because lack of power) was three word, first and last was NULL or something middle don't remember exactly Dec 13 08:46:11 hmm, should be fast_cccv Dec 13 08:46:27 mickey|ICE972: the whole usb thing is strange to me anyway: if i connect it to a (switched off) neo, the neo sometimes boots, sometimes not Dec 13 08:46:32 what was the neo plugged into? Dec 13 08:46:45 SpeedEvil: notebook directly Dec 13 08:46:51 bbiab, arriving shiortly Dec 13 08:47:11 other people also reported a neo switching off due to power with connected usb Dec 13 08:47:23 mickeyl: bs? Dec 13 08:48:39 is there a way to switch on/off charing inside linux? Dec 13 08:52:18 or is that controlled automatically and inside linux i only can poll the state? Dec 13 09:10:00 * * OM Bug 1129 has been created by john_lee(AT)openmoko.com Dec 13 09:10:01 * * provide original source and OM diff packages Dec 13 09:10:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1129 Dec 13 09:12:32 Nice article at Phoronix: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=940 Dec 13 09:12:35 Second sentence in the second chapter: Among the interesting events to have occurred this year for Linux hardware adoption was the shipping of OpenMoko, a "true Linux phone"... Dec 13 09:12:38 And later: However, looking forward to 2008, we believe that Linux on low-cost PCs and mobile devices will gain much traction... Dec 13 09:14:42 like the Eee Dec 13 09:15:27 Yep, maybe I'll get an Eee2 or what ever the next revision will be called Dec 13 09:15:29 go the eee Dec 13 09:16:56 CM: i might have my eee when we meet :p Dec 13 09:17:09 Ah, nice :) Dec 13 09:17:14 until then i have to settle with my 17" mbp :/ Dec 13 09:17:26 Hehe, släpbar.. Dec 13 09:17:35 men typ. Dec 13 09:17:39 17... Dec 13 09:37:44 Who is working dfu-util? Dec 13 09:37:59 uploading of firmware seems to be broken Dec 13 09:39:12 CM: ping Dec 13 09:50:11 xcasex: Pong Dec 13 09:50:27 * CM had yet another coffee refill :) Dec 13 09:51:28 CM: msg Dec 13 09:51:33 strange, bluez's dfutool works Dec 13 09:51:38 openmoko's doesnt... Dec 13 09:51:46 gotta love standards ;-) Dec 13 09:52:07 just checkout svn and build on your own? Dec 13 09:52:46 daMaestro, that *code* doesnt work, I'm not lazy Dec 13 09:53:02 they have the upload code wrong somewhere Dec 13 09:53:22 but it worked with another bluez's dfutool (from cvs head) Dec 13 09:54:06 er.... i'm using the dfutil from svn ... Dec 13 09:55:04 xcasex, openmoko's ? Dec 13 09:55:09 yeah Dec 13 09:55:30 xcasex, upload works? Dec 13 09:56:08 just fine over here. Dec 13 09:56:17 doing it right now as a matter of fact. Dec 13 09:56:22 xcasex, *weird*...well whatever, I just switched to another tool Dec 13 09:56:32 xcasex, wait, is this just with the neo? Dec 13 09:56:32 :) Dec 13 09:56:39 (I'm using another DFU device) Dec 13 09:56:41 just using it to flash a neo :) Dec 13 09:56:43 aha. Dec 13 09:56:46 That might be it. Dec 13 09:56:46 not flash Dec 13 09:56:54 DEVICE --> COMPUTER Dec 13 09:57:03 not COMPUTER --> DEVICE Dec 13 09:57:05 upload Dec 13 09:57:28 ah. Dec 13 09:57:29 (probably not a common feature) Dec 13 09:58:20 codyl: Should be though, everyone should at least back up their u-boot_env Dec 13 09:59:04 CM, well..something isn't right. My guess is that uboot on the neo does something non-standard, and it just hasnt been caught Dec 13 10:06:50 hi all Dec 13 10:07:02 question about openmoko-mediaplayer: Dec 13 10:07:10 do you know how to add Dec 13 10:07:20 an icon to a track? Dec 13 10:07:38 zilux: You mean cover album? Dec 13 10:07:47 right! Dec 13 10:08:07 zilux: That's a work in progress still I'm afraid, abraxa__ have been really busy with his university studies Dec 13 10:08:17 so it's just a place holder icon still Dec 13 10:08:31 no issue, this is for a demo Dec 13 10:08:39 You can manually change it if you want then, like I did Dec 13 10:08:45 ok Dec 13 10:08:58 Now,if I can only remember where.. Wait a sec Dec 13 10:10:08 zilux: It's a png, somewhere in the gtk theme for the mediaplayer Dec 13 10:10:20 zilux: Don't have my neo around, so I can't just look Dec 13 10:10:30 ok I will find it thanks! Dec 13 10:27:31 CM: ping Dec 13 10:28:28 When should We expect mass market phone ? Dec 13 10:28:30 Someone says first half in December!? Someone says later then march? What will it be!? Dec 13 10:28:55 neutrino: nobody knows for sure Dec 13 10:30:04 but "mass maket" as in usable for normal people is not possible in december. the software definetily isn't mass-market-ready yet Dec 13 10:32:01 cheezoo: Hey there :) Dec 13 10:32:27 ok, We shell wait for some official information! Dec 13 10:32:29 I've ask this because I intend to buy one . Mass market phone is my target but if I should wait until march, maybe I will decide to buy development edition . Dec 13 10:32:30 So, every information on this will be plus! Dec 13 10:32:52 CM: heya :) , in case i want to build some apps and then run on the emulator Dec 13 10:33:13 CM: i need to do a make qemu-local ? Dec 13 10:33:17 neutrino: The problem right now is that OpenMoko don't know themselves yet when everything will be ready Dec 13 10:33:30 neutrino: they hit some problems with the planned mass market version, so the current estimation of availability is March. Dec 13 10:33:37 cheezoo: Yes, or just build a openmoko-devel-image Dec 13 10:33:43 But it's just that, estimation. Dec 13 10:33:55 "It'll be ready when it'll be ready." Dec 13 10:34:16 CM: ok , thanks Dec 13 10:56:01 *blink* Dec 13 10:57:27 ScaredyCat: Busy lately? How's it going with that move? Dec 13 10:57:57 Not a decent build on your buildhost for almost a week now.. :P Dec 13 10:58:17 wtf! Dec 13 10:58:19 biatch! Dec 13 10:58:23 Hehe Dec 13 10:59:07 will upload another soon.. have been really busy @ work and with christmas shopping.... :/ Dec 13 10:59:53 hrrmmm Dec 13 10:59:54 NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0270/4944) [ 5 %]http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/examples/openmoko-stylus-demo-simple: (Not a valid URL) Dec 13 11:00:21 Huh? Try again, I just got an image built, but the feed is failing on epdf Dec 13 11:01:05 no, someone left off the .2 from the OM-2007 Dec 13 11:01:15 and must have updated the .bb files Dec 13 11:01:45 ~lart XorA|gone Dec 13 11:01:45 * apt makes a balloon animal out of XorA|gone Dec 13 11:02:09 yes epdf generates errors here too Dec 13 11:02:30 ScaredyCat: I've fixed the configure.in patch error, but it still fails later on Dec 13 11:03:00 !oebug 3467 Dec 13 11:03:02 * * Bug 3467, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-12-13 02:48 Dec 13 11:03:03 * * cm(AT)acc.umu.se: epdf_cvs.bb, fails to compile even with updated patch Dec 13 11:03:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3467 Dec 13 11:03:52 heheh openmokologo live Dec 13 11:07:36 it looks pretty broken CM Dec 13 11:13:10 CM, http://pastebin.ca/814517 have a look on to this problem Dec 13 11:16:52 mokomake breaks on unzip-native_552.bb, could it be trying to install this package for the host systemwide? Dec 13 11:18:16 I'm trying to build the kernel natively. Dec 13 11:18:30 I've gotten it to a state where menuconfig works fine Dec 13 11:18:55 then a couple of files in, I get 'scripts/mod/sumversion.c: In function 'md4_update': Dec 13 11:18:55 scripts/mod/sumversion.c:75: error: invalid 'asm': invalid operand for code 'w' Dec 13 11:19:07 any thoughts? Dec 13 11:49:15 atul: Is that from a clean build? Dec 13 11:49:40 Looks like you've only compiled 127 steps, so maybe just easier to "make clobber" and try from scratch again. Dec 13 11:49:56 CM, ok Dec 13 11:50:13 CM< make clobber clean the build Dec 13 11:50:36 Yes, it removes your build, but keeps all settings and souce files Dec 13 11:50:38 CM, but i already install new build Dec 13 11:50:42 ok Dec 13 11:51:16 Hmm.. Maybe disable ccache? Dec 13 11:52:00 CM, how much time it will took same like 10-11 hrs Dec 13 11:52:28 What are you building? make openmoko-devel-image? Dec 13 11:53:04 CM, yes on this step it will fails Dec 13 11:53:26 I haven't seen it for anyone else, so I suspect your ccache is bad Dec 13 11:53:53 CM, May be that is the only problem Dec 13 11:54:14 Try, hopefully that's it :) Dec 13 11:54:18 CM, On other machine my build is fine but on this machine i face same problme Dec 13 11:54:46 CM, How to clear the cache dont mind am very new to linux so. Dec 13 11:55:29 Not sure either, I don't have it on in gentoo (too much broke with it) Dec 13 11:58:21 someone can provide me u-boot images that works with boot form ram via debugboard? Dec 13 11:58:22 hey CM, the latest uImage from Scaredycat gives me no love when its on the sd, it gives me a kernel panic about no rootfs, although its a ext2 fs on the card :S Dec 13 11:58:36 for gra01bv4 ? Dec 13 11:58:57 yeah Dec 13 12:03:45 xcasex: Have you set the boot parameters? Dec 13 12:04:07 xcasex: Ask ScaredyCat or torpor about how they did Dec 13 12:04:15 CM: will do ty :D Dec 13 12:04:20 ScaredyCat: get in 'ere sir! Dec 13 12:04:23 you too torpor Dec 13 12:04:24 CM: no good news for building on gentoo? Dec 13 12:04:32 [ Dec 13 12:04:35 what. Dec 13 12:04:36 the hell Dec 13 12:04:39 gentoo, for the moko? Dec 13 12:04:45 Hehe Dec 13 12:04:54 No, building "on" gentoo Dec 13 12:05:19 ah. Dec 13 12:05:32 that would be a good reason to use gentoo again. wonder if my ebuilds are still in there :D Dec 13 12:05:33 Xx13: Building on gentoo works just fine, I've been doing it for more than half a year without much trouble Dec 13 12:05:56 xcasex: What are you using now then? Ubuntu? :P Dec 13 12:06:01 ah, ok, then it must be me ;] Dec 13 12:06:11 Xx13: What's the problem? Dec 13 12:06:12 CM: careful there sonnyjim, 'been using linux since SLS :p Dec 13 12:06:22 and yes, i went from debian to ubuntu :Ã¶ Dec 13 12:06:24 :o Dec 13 12:06:46 CM: | mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/athena/man': Permission denied Dec 13 12:06:46 unzip-native-552 Dec 13 12:07:08 moo Dec 13 12:07:12 Ah, remember that now Dec 13 12:07:26 But I don't know what's the problem with it, compiles just fine here Dec 13 12:07:27 ScaredyCat: trying to set up booting from a 2gb microsd, how did'ya do it? Dec 13 12:08:07 could it by trying to install to system root? then surely it won't get permission since i'm doing it as user Dec 13 12:08:41 Xx13: I'm running as user too, and you definitely should. Never build oe as root :) Dec 13 12:08:49 use the uboot in http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/ Dec 13 12:09:10 ScaredyCat: He is Dec 13 12:09:15 ScaredyCat: the problem i'm getting at after following the booting from sd wiki, is that the kernel panics upon finding no rootfs and quoting that it has support for three fs's ext3. jffs and someother. Dec 13 12:09:21 what CM said Dec 13 12:09:24 CM: i could have gotten mixed up in gcc versions... Dec 13 12:10:02 ah yes, smae issue... it doesn;t think that ext2 and 3 are basically the same, except for the journalling Dec 13 12:10:08 Xx13: Hmm.. Could be something like that. I'm building everything with gcc-4.2.2, but have 3.4.6 installed Dec 13 12:10:27 it all works with 4.2? Dec 13 12:11:14 i've read on some forum that it doesn't like 4.x so i went back to 3.4.4 which happened to be installed Dec 13 12:11:46 Ah, ok. It's just qemu that had problems with 4.x Dec 13 12:12:18 The latest versions of qemu should compile with 4.x though, but I havent tried Dec 13 12:12:32 Not sure if the qemu in oe is that updated either Dec 13 12:12:33 ScaredyCat: so i should do... Dec 13 12:12:47 a ext3 fs and force it? :S Dec 13 12:12:59 its just a tune2fs away Dec 13 12:13:04 4.2.2 appears to be masked Dec 13 12:13:05 either use ext3 or add ext2 support to kernel Dec 13 12:13:07 but Dec 13 12:13:34 ext3 might wear out your card with it's journalling over time Dec 13 12:14:20 notail and noatime can sort that out :D Dec 13 12:21:24 Xx13: Heh, I'm running ~amd46 and building openmoko bleeding-edge with unlocked srcrevs, so I assumed I would be the one hitting all new bugs ;) Dec 13 12:21:46 Guess not.. Are you on x86? Dec 13 12:22:23 amd64 from intel ;] Dec 13 12:23:16 you need one of first amd64 archs to hit all stupid bugs Dec 13 12:24:10 Mononoke: I have an old Athlon 3000+ Dec 13 12:35:17 ScaredyCat: yeah, i guess i should edit the fstab as well eh? ;D Dec 13 12:35:38 CM: we can do something about that later. Dec 13 12:35:39 that's what i have at home Athlon XP 3200, office is a little better D805 Dec 13 12:35:53 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ Dec 13 12:35:56 <3 Dec 13 12:36:06 that's what's in my buildserver :/ Dec 13 12:37:59 and how long does it take to build an image? Dec 13 12:38:32 i wouldnt know, monotone treats me like her bitch :/ Dec 13 12:39:28 Only if you let it. Dec 13 12:39:53 mwester-road: its not my fault that wench works on ports locked down by the great firewall of $corporation Dec 13 12:40:19 Ah, so the problem is the feinds who run your network, then. Dec 13 12:40:33 which is me and johan. and johan is refusing me :/ Dec 13 12:40:51 What - is johan bigger than you? Dec 13 12:41:27 yes. and i'm a big guy :( Dec 13 12:41:38 and i'd need to explain myself to management if i did. Dec 13 12:42:00 Oh. Well, that's too bad. You'll need to resort to other solutions then. Can you set up an SSH tunnel? Dec 13 12:42:05 mwester-road: when i get home i'll bring up the slug again and run a ssh proxy on it :) Dec 13 12:42:09 right. Dec 13 12:42:40 You have a slug? Cool. Neatest little computer for under USD 100 I've ever seen. Dec 13 12:43:30 damn a inned u-boot files that works with boot from ram Dec 13 12:43:50 * mwester-road is running IRC over a VPN connection to a slug on his home network, 'cause the hotel's proxy screws up the IRC port. Dec 13 12:44:04 mwester-road: i ahve one, had three, getting two more again :D Dec 13 12:44:24 * mwester-road has four :P :D Dec 13 12:44:24 i use my slug with pulseaudio and a usb soundcard :p Dec 13 12:44:31 its sex. Dec 13 12:44:49 No, not quite that good. Dec 13 12:45:04 havent had anything bothersome happen soundwise yet Dec 13 12:45:28 Angstrom, SlugOS, Debian, or Unslung? Dec 13 12:45:43 slugos Dec 13 12:45:48 thinking about going angstrom Dec 13 12:45:51 or mokoslug Dec 13 12:46:10 Any thoughts why I may get scripts/mod/sumversion.c:75: error: invalid 'asm': invalid operand for code 'w' Dec 13 12:46:24 when I try to compile the kernel on native gcc Dec 13 12:46:29 (a coupe of files in) Dec 13 12:46:29 I wonder if it would be possible to turn moko into guitar disortion effect. you can plug in audio input ? you have audio output? you have cpu ? ^.^ Dec 13 12:46:30 abraxa__: ping me whne you have time Dec 13 12:46:30 Not much work on Mokoslug lately; Angstrom has had work but is incomplete, I prefer SlugOS -- lots of work recently there. Dec 13 12:46:39 Mononoke: sure Dec 13 12:46:58 mwester-road: slugos broke my slug today :) Dec 13 12:47:14 Mononoke: however, there is no microphone input Dec 13 12:47:26 Mononoke: you can use USB soundcard to do stuff. Dec 13 12:48:06 * Mononoke looks for some usb soundcard Dec 13 12:48:46 did anyone try plugging usb soundcard into moko ? ^.^ Dec 13 12:49:41 I don't think the kernel is actually supporting it yet Dec 13 12:49:56 Mononoke: you need a powered USB port for that Dec 13 12:49:57 MokoSlug is just Angstrom minimal image anyway Dec 13 12:50:08 You don't _need_ it - it's nice. Dec 13 12:50:23 You need an external power source. Dec 13 12:50:39 well, yeah, this works also. depends on the sound card Dec 13 12:50:56 rwhitby: alright Dec 13 13:55:06 hi folks. When can a final release be expected? :-) Dec 13 13:55:09 just curious Dec 13 13:55:55 Not so soon.. :-/ Dec 13 13:56:16 darx: take a look at the topic and read the link (/topic) Dec 13 13:58:14 CM: ok thanks. i'm still holding on to my ageing nokia. But the more the wait, the sweeter the returns. ;-) Dec 13 13:58:37 And the better the software will be when the hw is available :D Dec 13 14:00:39 agreed 100%. Although I can find my way around the console, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Dec 13 14:19:32 CM: i'm putting together a laptop for a client, asus u1e w. ssd hdd and 4gb of ram Dec 13 14:19:41 CM: i think i should keep it for myself Dec 13 14:28:30 xcasex: What's up? Dec 13 14:30:00 * * OM Bug 1130 has been created by mikaela_vitalariu(AT)yahoo.com Dec 13 14:30:02 * * the stat() system call hangs when the argument is a remote folder Dec 13 14:30:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1130 Dec 13 14:51:25 abraxa_: i heard you had e17 running on your moko, have you oackaged it up or is it natively compiled? Dec 13 14:55:36 xcasex: Actually I don't, though it's in OE as e-wm and can be easily installed Dec 13 14:56:02 xcasex: Ohh.. Nice! Make one for me too Dec 13 14:56:17 I'll trade you abraxa_'s debug board for it.. ;) Dec 13 14:56:23 lol Dec 13 15:04:11 how to acces serial console via debugboard? Dec 13 15:04:22 i trye to unbick my neo Dec 13 15:06:35 abraxa_: oh err.... oe? feed? Dec 13 15:10:33 hi all Dec 13 15:10:53 why make setup don't work Dec 13 15:10:55 ? Dec 13 15:11:14 connection refused error arises Dec 13 15:11:27 xcasex: you can build e17 directly from the openembedded repository Dec 13 15:12:23 I'm using mokomake file, but what is e17? Dec 13 15:14:46 thomasg_: that's the thing, i could as well just use my desktop e17 shellscript to build it from cvs :Ã¶ Dec 13 15:14:50 :p Dec 13 15:16:15 I'm sorry I couldn't got the drift of what you are trying to say, any way I've tried make update-bleeding-edge and it worked Dec 13 15:16:53 I just wanna know why make setup doesn't work, I used to use it to setup the environment Dec 13 15:17:16 xcasex: easy_e17? :) Dec 13 15:17:31 xcasex: but no, of course that doesn't work this way, because you need crosscompiling Dec 13 15:17:41 ;_; Dec 13 15:17:45 NineX: I tried all evening yesterday too, no success... Dec 13 15:18:07 NineX: Only managed to get openocd to contact the debugboard once, but then I didn't know what to do Dec 13 15:18:17 Never got any contact with uboot Dec 13 15:18:19 so I'd recommend you tu use openembedded or look for a repository with precompiled ipkg-packages for the neo Dec 13 15:18:28 the important thing is that my moko now boots from sd. Dec 13 15:18:35 everything else is secondary atm Dec 13 15:19:07 xcasex: Take a look at the bottom of the Repositories page in the wiki Dec 13 15:19:39 the important thing is that my moko now boots from sd. Dec 13 15:19:53 CM: oh oh oh didnt notice that at first! Dec 13 15:19:53 CM: hm .. this sounds not too good .. =) .. a few minutes i thought about chancing my partition tyble to get my okl4 working .. but now I'm somehow confused - maybe I also get some problemns to get the debug-board to work ;) Dec 13 15:21:07 Field: First I had to recompile my kernel with that ftdi_ios module or what it was called, but it's still damn hard to figure out what to do to fix anything Dec 13 15:21:48 The wiki just says to use cu against /dev/ttyUSB0 or 1, but neither of those worked for me.. :( Dec 13 15:21:59 cutecom ftw Dec 13 15:22:30 Tried minicom too, but that didnt work either, and the program just sucks really hard Dec 13 15:22:41 Talk about failed ui design Dec 13 15:23:15 :) Dec 13 15:23:56 oh plz .. not again reading so much about the -senseless- difference between qt and openmoto .. Dec 13 15:24:47 by the way i use cutecom with activated cdc-kernel-support to conenct my u-boot .. but never tried this with the debug-board Dec 13 15:26:02 I've been able to connect to u-boot once, but the was a long while ago Dec 13 15:26:13 CM: cute.com. Dec 13 15:27:20 emerge cutecom ;) 22kb :D Dec 13 15:27:26 y .. use cutecom .. of course u need to connect as root, otherwise you'll not get access to ttyACM0 .. but - maybe someone with more linux-skills could change this also Dec 13 15:34:05 please any one have an idea why make setup doesn't work? Dec 13 15:34:40 hi Dec 13 15:36:08 mohamed: Did you read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile#Required_software ? Dec 13 15:39:53 abraxa: yes, carefully and followed the steps, it works sometimes of the day and the rest I get a connection refused error Dec 13 15:40:06 ok, here is my one: I want to change the size of the partitions. I know, that I have to use "setenv mtdparts" and so on. My question is, if I want to increase the kernel-size up to 11MB, do I also have to "de-"crease the size of rootfs (0x03d1c000) .. so my kernel would be 0xA80000 and rootfs would be 0x0349c000 ?? is this correct? Dec 13 15:41:31 abraxa: I used make setup with opensuse 10.2 and ubuntu 7.10 it works but not all of the time; I'm using make update-bleeding-ege Dec 13 15:42:01 mohamed: You only need to do make setup once Dec 13 15:45:14 abraxa: yes, I now, but I've installed ubuntu 7.10 two days ago and want to build moko on it so I have to run make setup the make openmoko-devel-image; make setup worked fine from 12:30pm till 3:00pm this day (I live in Egypt and it''s now 5:44) then it stopped working and said connection refused Dec 13 15:45:47 If it worked fine then what's the problem? Dec 13 15:48:12 abraxa: it is not working now (I've stopped make setup step because my connection was down and then resumed it I asked a friend to try it on his machine and the same error connection refused) Dec 13 15:51:12