**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 22 02:59:56 2007 Dec 22 03:01:07 openmoko: 03andrew * r3726 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Dec 22 03:01:07 openmoko: Initial version of Atheros AR6001 files. Currently it's a dummy SDIO with the Dec 22 03:01:07 openmoko: correct Manufacturer/Card ID. SDIO FBR I/O not yet support. Dec 22 03:01:07 openmoko: Attach the AR6k to the SD slot of gta02fake. Dec 22 03:01:07 openmoko: Add missing CISTPL IDs to pcmcia.h as they're now shared with SDIO. Dec 22 04:21:17 i want to make the input of serial line become the standard input of tty0. what would i do? Dec 22 04:23:31 you can't change tty0, you can change the default console Dec 22 04:23:50 system console Dec 22 04:23:58 or you can just run a getty on a serial, too Dec 22 04:33:51 i am porting directfb, it use tty%s by default Dec 22 04:34:59 it use keyboard as its input, but the device does not have one. Dec 22 05:08:32 mmm wikipedia still says december release for the openmoko v2 ? Dec 22 05:43:11 dbmoodb: January according to the rss feeds Dec 22 05:43:23 so why do we have a topic of march ? Dec 22 05:44:21 might have been moved back. OM are having a Vista release heh Dec 22 05:44:46 om ? Dec 22 05:44:52 openmoko Dec 22 05:44:53 vista Dec 22 05:44:58 hits head Dec 22 05:47:22 shame, by then Android based phones will be appearing Dec 22 05:49:36 Does anyone know if a tracfone SIM will work on a Neo1973? Dec 22 07:23:20 where can I find gdb which I can run on the moko. Strace is not that informative at this point. Dec 22 07:23:38 I could also do remote gdb too Dec 22 07:29:07 jeremym: you can take a look at http://celtune.morb-design.com/ipk/armv4t/gdb_6.6-r3_armv4t.ipk Dec 22 07:30:45 Thanks. I found it in my build..... just too sleepy to search for myself I guess. This will have to wait til tommorow. Dec 22 10:07:20 hi!! Dec 22 10:07:34 I managed to start openmoko in a mioA701 Dec 22 10:07:45 I managed to start openmoko in a mioA701 Dec 22 10:07:49 :) Dec 22 10:07:59 does it work? Dec 22 10:08:03 yes Dec 22 10:08:08 but there is a problem Dec 22 10:08:11 the touchscreen Dec 22 10:08:32 when you toucj it the icon goes left down and does not move from there.. Dec 22 10:08:41 but even rounf niddel button is working Dec 22 10:08:56 roung middle button Dec 22 10:09:02 round... sorry Dec 22 10:09:12 what's the display resolution? Dec 22 10:09:57 do not know.. Dec 22 10:10:00 http://www.miousers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1644&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165&sid=10c5b6ea1a824b2217490f5726342125 Dec 22 10:10:17 some more info, I right now testing things.. Dec 22 10:26:25 gayo_: did you try the GPS as pedestrian with the original OS? Dec 22 10:27:10 I tried miomap.. Dec 22 10:27:18 but do not know gps.. Dec 22 10:27:32 I do not know much abot that things.. Dec 22 10:27:45 iriginal OS is windows mobile.. arrghhh Dec 22 10:28:08 :) Dec 22 10:28:41 this is not this model: http://www.cnet.com.au/mobilephones/pdaphones/0,239036206,339271803-5,00.htm Dec 22 10:35:02 yes is that mio a701 Dec 22 10:35:19 and miomap looks the same as in the picture Dec 22 10:37:32 http://prealable.org/~damz/a701/ Dec 22 10:37:47 eabi-debian is not working well.. Dec 22 10:38:05 openmoko is working much better but with no touch screen Dec 22 10:38:25 but middle round bootin is working very wll Dec 22 10:38:37 and this kernel is the best for mio right now: Dec 22 10:40:45 mioa701_linux_12.21.2007.tar.bz2 Dec 22 10:41:16 http://srv-bob.no-ip.org/MioA701/Ramdisk/ Dec 22 10:41:27 here you can download for a while Dec 22 10:42:04 bye bey and thanks Dec 22 10:42:41 thanks for these info Dec 22 10:42:54 good luck!! Dec 22 10:54:09 good morning Dec 22 11:06:04 Hopscotch, good morning Dec 22 11:48:28 hi Dec 22 11:57:31 ehlo Dec 22 12:46:24 is openmoko-devel-image turning off PARALLEL_MAKE ? Dec 22 12:47:31 moin Dec 22 12:47:33 don't think so Dec 22 12:48:43 moin mickeyl Dec 22 13:26:01 hi all Dec 22 13:26:47 I was just updating with `ipkg update && ipkg upgrade` and it returned ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1! Any clue? Dec 22 14:26:24 stupid question: how do I change volume? Dec 22 14:32:22 hmm.. alsamixer putting everything high makes it louder, but not that much Dec 22 14:45:43 hi Dec 22 14:45:44 amp right and amp left seems to what needs to be changed Dec 22 14:47:53 if you lower the amps and raise the actual input volume to one red you will get the desired sound quality, ends that nasty echo on the other end too Dec 22 14:49:53 write down all the values after you get the right sound and edit gsmhandset.state to reflect the changes so it will be permanent Dec 22 14:51:05 KrisAbsinthe: what about alsactl store? Dec 22 14:51:28 that works, i just like editing confs Dec 22 14:54:11 KrisAbsinthe: well, this was just for playback ;-) Dec 22 14:55:23 Ah, ive just been asked so many times how to fix the echo lol Dec 22 14:57:32 Anyone try the new Qtopia snapshot Dec 22 15:27:16 here are some photos of my neo-ready-golf2 http://homepages.upb.de/olaf/dinge/openmoko/ Dec 22 15:27:21 with the neo as radio replacement Dec 22 15:33:02 borg_ why does it look like there's no power to neo Dec 22 15:33:19 because there is no power to the neo in this pictures ;) Dec 22 15:33:30 power supply will come soon ;) Dec 22 15:33:31 you don't drive very far i guess Dec 22 15:34:25 are you able to use a usb/auto adapter with the fast-charge override in software Dec 22 15:34:42 of course, that works Dec 22 15:35:18 hmm... in qtopia at least, the fast charge thing didn't seem to take Dec 22 15:35:23 couldn't use the auto adapter Dec 22 15:35:39 really? Dec 22 15:35:44 it works for me, i tested it Dec 22 15:42:16 some auto adapters have the TX RX crossed so that the Neo knows to charge the phone. without it the phone will not charge Dec 22 15:52:58 borg_: do you drive with the windshiled covered with ice like this and only relying on the AGPS readings? :) Dec 22 15:53:36 balrog-kun: lol Dec 22 15:53:37 :) Dec 22 15:53:47 thats i good idea Dec 22 15:53:52 i hate it to remove the ice every morning Dec 22 15:54:31 yeah, imagine if everyone drove like this :) Dec 22 15:54:48 but their Neo's could communicate Dec 22 15:57:55 Does anyone know if a tracfone SIM will work on a Neo1973? Dec 22 15:58:24 depends on the manufacturer Dec 22 16:00:26 sdubois92: there may be an index of SIMs that are known to work on the wiki Dec 22 16:02:42 aparantly it wont work with a neo1973 Dec 22 16:02:59 but tracfone is a GSM provider so hopefully it will work in the future Dec 22 16:03:21 why do you think it won't? Dec 22 16:03:37 no tracphone is a company, they use other providers as a back bone Dec 22 16:54:15 borg_: is that your car? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=51.704639+n+8.773190+e&ie=UTF8&ll=51.704639,8.77319&spn=0.000293,0.000574&t=h&z=21&om=1 Dec 22 16:54:37 :) Dec 22 16:55:14 bmidgley: let me see Dec 22 16:55:43 oh wow Dec 22 16:55:48 it really is the right parking slot Dec 22 16:55:51 astonishing Dec 22 16:56:30 cool Dec 22 16:57:02 I remember posting about a gpsd problem... the post included my coordinates and one of the guys helping me described my location :) Dec 22 16:57:26 can someone help me with a wiki page? Dec 22 16:57:32 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_as_radio_replacement Dec 22 16:57:43 i want the text next to the images Dec 22 16:58:11 float: left? Dec 22 16:58:19 he makes the text under the image if there is a line break Dec 22 17:00:23 borg_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images Dec 22 17:02:04 borg_ did you really need the external antenna Dec 22 17:03:37 if you want to have full gps coverage, even if you are driving in a street with big houses surrounding it, you definetily need an external antenna :\ Dec 22 17:03:51 zash: thx Dec 22 17:06:22 * mwester prefers the parking slots on the ends. :) Dec 22 17:09:05 mwester: i think this slot is as near as i can come to my home ;) Dec 22 17:22:15 Oh, still March? Dec 22 17:22:22 too bad :-( Dec 22 17:22:24 Would have thought it'd be August by now Dec 22 17:22:36 Thats about how the delays have gone so far Dec 22 17:22:50 morning Dec 22 17:23:01 morning Dec 22 17:23:07 evening Dec 22 17:23:08 hrw == harald welte ? Dec 22 17:23:12 no Dec 22 17:23:18 ah ok Dec 22 17:23:22 LaF0rge is Haralt Dec 22 17:23:22 hrw = hrw ? Dec 22 17:23:26 yeah right Dec 22 17:23:27 nox-Hand: ;D Dec 22 17:25:53 Funny how quick conversation dies in here Dec 22 17:26:06 *administers CPR by using the vital ingredient* Dec 22 17:26:15 Lets talk about Android!" Dec 22 17:26:17 I think not.. Dec 22 17:28:31 something new happened in openmoko world? Dec 22 17:30:41 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_as_radio_replacement Dec 22 17:30:44 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Car_phone_holder_for_neo1973 Dec 22 17:30:52 so, wiki pages are ready ;) Dec 22 17:34:25 borg_ now it's totally ready for the software! Dec 22 17:35:05 navit & some kind of media player Dec 22 17:35:47 ? Dec 22 17:36:01 navit and the media player are already on my neo, of course ;) Dec 22 17:36:09 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Neo_golf2_3.jpg Dec 22 17:37:36 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 doesn't say anything about the GTA02 gps or gsm... we know the gps was changed at the very least Dec 22 17:41:11 hmm I thought I saw the gps had been changed but now I can't find anything official to that effect Dec 22 17:41:15 bmidgley: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison Dec 22 17:41:23 there is a good comparison site Dec 22 17:43:12 bmidgley: gps changed to one with plain serial interface Dec 22 17:43:16 bmidgley: gsm the same Dec 22 17:45:37 bye Dec 22 17:59:28 too bad... I thought we'd at least get edge Dec 22 18:59:54 YAY December 2nd build works Dec 22 20:28:40 who's in charge of ze planet? Dec 22 20:29:50 I guess that's the head of the UN ? Dec 22 20:30:00 :-) sorry Dec 22 20:30:13 lol Dec 22 20:30:22 haha Dec 22 20:30:25 I hope to be at some point Dec 22 20:30:26 nah planet.openmoko :p Dec 22 20:31:06 why u want in ? Dec 22 20:32:14 talk about open upfront, yes :) Dec 22 20:32:38 =) Dec 22 20:32:56 well there is nothing in the wiki Dec 22 20:33:22 MokoMakefile is still the best/easiest way to build images, right? Dec 22 20:33:33 hang around til someone who knows ppl Dec 22 20:33:50 kinneh: someone who knows people should be calling me soon if he remembers too. Dec 22 20:34:00 hehe Dec 22 20:34:03 CM: not to mention anyone specific. Dec 22 20:34:08 orospakr: the easiest in any case, yes Dec 22 20:34:34 orospakr: keep in mind that if you wanna try that, realise that you open a can of worms :) Dec 22 20:34:44 orospakr: well it curtenly takes a long time to comple, but it's only hard waiting :-/ Dec 22 20:34:54 I've used it before. Dec 22 20:35:07 xcasex: worms ? Dec 22 20:35:12 it's just been a while. Dec 22 20:35:25 kinneh: it's a metaphor. Dec 22 20:35:28 worm = bugs that crawls ? Dec 22 20:35:39 kinneh: i'm implying that its hard to make it work. Dec 22 20:35:52 xcasex: ok Dec 22 20:36:47 I set it up but had to break the build, now I'm setting it up on a machine more powerful Dec 22 20:37:00 hello, whilst wh Dec 22 20:37:15 hi webjames Dec 22 20:37:30 hello, whilst waiting for the neo, i'm thinking of getting a motorola ming a1200. has anyone already got one? Dec 22 20:37:35 im getting " C compiler con not create executeables" any ideas is it my system or the build system? Dec 22 20:37:35 i have four machines running a clustered build setyp via distcc. Dec 22 20:37:38 *setup Dec 22 20:38:21 problem is, a) its at work b) monotone ports are blocked c) ssh got blocked recently d) did i mention its at work :( Dec 22 20:40:21 yay for quadcore goodness ;) Dec 22 20:41:02 CoreDump: yay for two x3650's w. dual, quads. :p Dec 22 20:41:13 xcasex: =D Dec 22 20:41:18 not to mention the "system i" machine under my desk :p Dec 22 20:41:27 ever timed an OM build? Dec 22 20:41:43 36 hours herer Dec 22 20:42:34 err, 110 minutes here Dec 22 20:43:07 CoreDump: as soon as i get there i will just because you asked :) Dec 22 20:43:17 * xcasex is on vacation until the 27th Dec 22 20:43:48 xcasex: don't forget it ;) I'm interested in the diff between quad and octa-core Dec 22 20:43:58 ach so :) Dec 22 20:44:13 nah i have a creeping suspicion you'll be around to remind me ;D Dec 22 20:44:29 * CoreDump forgets fast Dec 22 20:44:30 i could set up distccd on the supercomputers as well :) Dec 22 20:44:41 that would be cheating heh Dec 22 20:44:56 bah :( Dec 22 20:45:26 you realise i will be able to run a concurrent build job numbering a few hundred threads right? Dec 22 20:45:45 ? Dec 22 20:46:12 true, but that wouldn't be a real measurement of an octacore :\ Dec 22 20:46:15 KrisAbsinthe: buildfarm at work :) Dec 22 20:46:27 CoreDump: true... Dec 22 20:53:27 350,000 EEE PC's shipped http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/asus-exceeds-expectations-ships-350000-eee-pcs-in-one-quarter/ Dec 22 20:55:49 "there's no linux desktop users out there" argument just died. Dec 22 20:56:00 No it diddn;t. Dec 22 20:56:15 It got slightly deader. Dec 22 20:57:11 * Stephmw flogs the dead horse Dec 22 20:57:26 xcasex: obviously the eee-pc is not a desktop. Dec 22 20:57:45 It could be a desktop replacement. Dec 22 20:58:18 really not... Dec 22 20:58:25 LarstiQ: errr.. Dec 22 20:58:37 its a mobile client. Dec 22 20:59:19 and by desktop i wasnt implying "stationary pc" but rather "productive way to perform tasks in a modern way" Dec 22 21:00:25 yada yada, It's a tremendous success for linux, call it whaterver you want, I want one, but I just got this opemmoko phone :-) Dec 22 21:01:23 * mjr inserts standard complaint about nonfree wifi driver and wish that his XO wouldn't be too late Dec 22 21:03:29 kinneh: i have an order in for one :D Dec 22 21:03:34 it should arrive in a bout a week :p Dec 22 21:09:14 last I looked over 60% of all PC's are now laptops Dec 22 21:09:55 IIm a good example, I now have more laptops (5) than desktops (2) Dec 22 21:10:04 me as well Dec 22 21:10:12 * Stephmw looks around Dec 22 21:10:15 all my stationary computers have been repurposed as servers Dec 22 21:10:19 desktops to me are just box's to shove hardisks in Dec 22 21:10:28 not enough grunt/$ for my tastes Dec 22 21:10:29 Linux_Galore: amen brother. Dec 22 21:10:36 I like desktops Dec 22 21:10:47 talking of which, I need something more beefy Dec 22 21:10:49 laptops are work machines Dec 22 21:10:56 I have a laptop, but I really can't imagine using it as my primary machine. Dec 22 21:11:01 They're just too... unergonomic. Dec 22 21:11:20 SunX2: that's what docking solutions are for :) Dec 22 21:11:52 SunX2: look at the new HP DV laptops, full sized keyboards, media centre built in (with remote) 17-20" LCD Dec 22 21:11:55 Hm... screens are still too small. Unless you get a really large one, which makes it rather pointless :) Dec 22 21:12:22 An awkward form factor for something you plan on watching from a distance, IMO. Dec 22 21:12:57 SunX2: I'm ok with 17" screens, but for the price, I can get more mips from a desktop Dec 22 21:13:00 I might start using it as my #1 machine as soon as they start offering dual screen laptops :) Dec 22 21:13:13 Stephmw: that too. Dec 22 21:13:28 Im on a laptop now with a dock (Toshiba) 22" LCD and a Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard everything it network based (NAS,PRINTER,SCANNER) Dec 22 21:13:43 s/it/is/ Dec 22 21:13:44 Linux_Galore meant: Im on a laptop now wish a dock (Toshiba) 22" LCD and a Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard everything it network based (NAS,PRINTER,SCANNER) Dec 22 21:14:00 Heh Dec 22 21:14:13 forgot apt is running Dec 22 21:14:15 Do you ever move it around though? Dec 22 21:14:31 SunX2: all the time, its a R500 Dec 22 21:14:39 Also, that sounds like a hell of an investment Dec 22 21:15:18 SunX2: I use the4 same screen for years, swap the laptop 3 times Dec 22 21:15:46 Oh, the laptop itself doesn't have the 22" LCD :) Dec 22 21:15:48 I misread that. Dec 22 21:15:52 SunX2: I usually wait for specials, the 22" LCD cost me US$230 Dec 22 21:15:55 How do you position the laptop though? Dec 22 21:16:00 Nice deal! Dec 22 21:16:20 SunX2: site to the left of me on the desk Dec 22 21:16:24 sits* Dec 22 21:17:21 my wife purchased the keyboard and mouse as a b'day present Dec 22 21:17:37 So in the end, you did pay for it yourself ;) Dec 22 21:18:07 I also have a Logitech 5.1 system setup to Dec 22 21:18:48 SunX2: she own her own company, my bet is she will be claiming it on her taxes as a company expense Dec 22 21:18:56 I have a separate home theater setup, I can't imagine combining a desk with a couch :) Dec 22 21:19:08 Ahh, smart. Dec 22 21:19:35 * Linux_Galore notes the missus always seems to give presents that could be construed as office supplies Dec 22 21:20:02 :D Dec 22 21:20:09 Would work for me, though. Dec 22 21:20:16 A nice keyboard and mouse can be a good gift. Dec 22 21:20:18 Most stuff I want falls into that category. Dec 22 21:20:21 Or a nice chair. Dec 22 21:20:43 yeah, well last year she got me an executive black leather chair Dec 22 21:21:02 mmmm italian Dec 22 21:22:33 SunX2: Yeah I have a NAS setup in the lounge that also doubles as a media centre Dec 22 21:22:51 after om-config i just run make right/ Dec 22 21:23:44 your not a geek these days unless you have a NAS/Media centre in the lounge :-P Dec 22 21:24:18 extra points if its a a rack Dec 22 21:24:42 * SpeedEvil wants a nice rack in his lounge. Dec 22 21:25:21 I tried to put a rack in the lounge, missus for some reason wouldnt go with it, had dreams of a UPS and built in 5" lcd and a few blade servers, sigh! Dec 22 21:25:41 * SpeedEvil puts away the bumper book of innuendo. Dec 22 21:25:57 heh, yeah saw that one coming Dec 22 21:26:04 * Linux_Galore ducks Dec 22 21:26:12 Heh, competing racks... Dec 22 21:26:23 The problem is getting them quiet. Dec 22 21:26:34 I've got a half-completed case for a media PC. Dec 22 21:26:43 2*60cm porcelain tiles. Dec 22 21:26:58 12* 10*20cm glass tiles. Dec 22 21:27:20 backlight the glass tiles and place them round the edge of the big tiles. Dec 22 21:27:33 well the actual rack itself didnt bother her (IBM make some nice looking black racks) all the blinking lights put her off the idea Dec 22 21:29:30 I havent seen many really nice looking PC cases lately, most seem bland Dec 22 21:29:42 or childish Dec 22 21:30:06 need to get some italians designing PC cases Dec 22 21:30:49 then again they would have fans that make male grunting noises when the CPU is running fast Dec 22 21:34:57 Linux_Galore: sign me up Dec 22 22:50:52 xcasex: På Grubbe nu, men tokjävla förkyld.. :( Dec 22 22:51:03 * CM takes a nap Dec 22 23:01:00 * * OM Bug 1145 has been created by dodji(AT)openedhand.com Dec 22 23:01:01 * * add hw assisted rotation support to xglamo via randr Dec 22 23:01:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1145 Dec 22 23:05:06 CM: gör sÃ¥, ring mig imorgon sÃ¥ tar vi en fika :) Dec 22 23:07:22 OpenMoko will sell the Neo 1973 to general developers shortly after the device has being modified according to input by initial participating developers, before pushing the device to the mass-market through retail shops and telecom services providers, possibly by the second half of 2008, the sources indicated. Dec 22 23:07:26 :| Dec 22 23:11:29 El_Salvador: as far as I understand it, second half of 2008 is for mass market, developers should be able to get GTA02 sooner Dec 22 23:11:31 * mmp hopes so Dec 22 23:12:03 the quote obviously refers mass market Dec 22 23:14:16 bad news Dec 22 23:15:27 El_Salvador: where from it is? Dec 22 23:16:07 http://www.digitimes.com/telecom/a20071116PD213.html Dec 22 23:17:19 Sorry, the page you are trying to open is available only for our paid subscribers. Dec 22 23:18:19 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo1973 Dec 22 23:18:24 sixth note Dec 22 23:18:31 (references) Dec 22 23:21:23 never trust external sources Dec 22 23:21:49 never trust any sources :P Dec 22 23:24:52 never trust that there even is something like 'trust' :P Dec 22 23:33:58 hi, it appears that my ssh server isn't running on the OM, how do I start it? Dec 22 23:44:40 it's strange I'm getting a permission denied when trying to access the OM, the interface is up :( Dec 22 23:45:54 -l root Dec 22 23:48:11 roh: :) yup I'm using that Dec 22 23:48:35 roh: I checked on the OM and it had a known_hosts file so I deleted that Dec 22 23:48:53 roh: strange thing is I successfully connected to it last time Dec 22 23:49:11 the address is up now in ifconfig Dec 22 23:49:42 just in case I added a passwd on the OM Dec 22 23:49:48 that doesn't work either :( Dec 22 23:50:30 I'm getting a Permission denied (publickey,password). Dec 22 23:50:57 you want to connect from your pc to your neo right? Dec 22 23:51:25 you use root as user and nothing as password? Dec 22 23:51:44 borg_: yeah I've used this combo in the past with no problem, just can't today Dec 22 23:51:53 mh Dec 22 23:52:02 I set the passwd on the OM in order to test with a password as I was getting the above message Dec 22 23:54:05 how would I remove the password now :) Dec 22 23:54:14 /etc/passwd :) Dec 22 23:55:22 appears that my routing table is a bit messed up: Dec 22 23:55:24 Kernel IP routing table Dec 22 23:55:24 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface Dec 22 23:55:24 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 Dec 22 23:55:24 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 Dec 22 23:55:24 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 Dec 22 23:55:25 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Dec 23 00:29:52 sleep time Dec 23 00:29:55 sia Dec 23 01:14:46 what can i do to get my sd card working? Dec 23 01:14:52 it is a SanDisk SDSDQ-4096-E11M Dec 23 01:14:55 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards Dec 23 01:15:11 it doesnt get automounted and it doesnt show up in /dev/ Dec 23 01:15:14 ideas? Dec 23 01:15:31 root@fic-gta01:~$ uname -a Dec 23 01:15:32 Linux fic-gta01 2.6.22.5-moko11 #1 PREEMPT Thu Nov 22 09:34:46 GMT 2007 armv4tl Dec 23 01:15:48 Is it partitioned and formatted? Does it show up in /proc/partitions? Dec 23 01:15:48 modules: http://pastebin.ca/829247 Dec 23 01:16:18 no it doesnt Dec 23 01:16:26 it works in my x41 Dec 23 01:16:35 under linux (ubuntu) Dec 23 01:18:40 do i have to partion it? Dec 23 01:19:02 i should see it in /dev/ anyway, imo Dec 23 01:21:17 You should see a /dev/mmcblk0 device. Maybe look through 'dmesg' after booting to see if there are any useful messages from the driver? Dec 23 01:22:33 http://pastebin.ca/829275 Dec 23 01:22:33 mh Dec 23 01:22:35 is this normal? Dec 23 01:25:30 The pcf50606/adc_read stuff is normal (but annoying). I'd be concerned about the JFFS2 warnings, though. Dec 23 01:27:37 http://pastebin.ca/829286 Dec 23 01:27:42 dmesg directly after start Dec 23 01:29:47 no errors and nothing about sd mentioned :( Dec 23 01:31:43 The "mmc_set_power"/"s3c2410-sdi" lines are from the SD interface, but it doesn't seem to see the card. Dec 23 01:32:27 mh Dec 23 01:32:59 thomasg has the 6gb version of the card and it works (with some kernel) Dec 23 01:33:13 damn Dec 23 01:34:28 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 6113 MB, 6113722368 bytes Dec 23 01:35:43 if it would not work in my laptop, i would bring it back, but the card is obviously ok Dec 23 01:36:14 maybe you should check your u-boot-version Dec 23 01:36:54 does the u-boot version matter? Dec 23 01:39:40 what is the latest sane u-boot version? Dec 23 01:39:46 i dont have the debug board Dec 23 01:41:21 All u-boot versions have bugs, but the August snapshot seems to be the best choice for now Dec 23 01:42:08 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.08/images/u-boot-gta01bv4-1.2.0+git8993e54b6f397973794f3d6f47d3b3c0c98dd4f6+svn20070819-r0.bin Dec 23 01:42:11 this one? Dec 23 01:44:06 That looks right, but maybe someone who's actually using it can confirm that (I'm running a recent uboot-openmoko_svn.bb build) Dec 23 01:44:25 thomasg: what u-boot do you use? Dec 23 01:44:42 can I figure out w/o rebooting? :) Dec 23 01:47:34 dont know Dec 23 01:50:36 ok, it's 1.3.0-rc11.2.0 Dec 23 01:51:13 mh Dec 23 01:51:33 do you have problems whit it? Dec 23 01:51:42 s/whit/with Dec 23 01:59:33 not really. it can't boot from SDHC, but that doesn't matter for me Dec 23 01:59:50 i have flashed the 2007.8 one now Dec 23 01:59:58 seems to be the most stable of all Dec 23 02:00:49 I don't flash anymore. I have a kernel flashed and boot the rootfs directly from sdhc Dec 23 02:02:20 nope, didnt change anything Dec 23 02:02:22 no sd card :( Dec 23 02:05:16 what's 'lowlevel-foo' ? Dec 23 02:05:21 I haven't seen that before Dec 23 02:05:44 hachi: it's used with the debug board to boot from RAM Dec 23 02:05:58 ahh, okay Dec 23 02:08:52 i will try the 2007.11 uboot Dec 23 02:12:06 2007.11 doesnt work either :(( Dec 23 02:12:19 now it gets frustrating Dec 23 02:20:43 w000000000t Dec 23 02:20:50 179 0 3979776 mmcblk0 Dec 23 02:20:59 i have it in /proc/partions now! Dec 23 02:21:29 What did you do to get it to work? Dec 23 02:21:48 nothing Dec 23 02:21:53 i just did another reboot Dec 23 02:22:12 i started directly from the uboot menu after updating it Dec 23 02:22:20 perhaps i should have shut down it first Dec 23 02:23:14 lets see, if i want to boot from it, what fs should i choose? Dec 23 02:23:22 ext3 Dec 23 02:23:44 hey sweet, GSM stuff seems to be working better yet Dec 23 02:25:14 root@fic-gta01:/dev$ fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 Dec 23 02:25:15 Unable to read /dev/mmcblk0 Dec 23 02:25:17 ... ;) Dec 23 02:31:43 borg_: my only other idea is to try physically re-seating the card. Dec 23 02:32:10 /dev/mmcblk0p1 3.8G 32.0k 3.8G 0% /media/card Dec 23 02:32:11 !!! Dec 23 02:33:04 i pulled it out, polished it and plugged it in again Dec 23 02:33:34 so the three uboot updates were not needed probably Dec 23 02:33:36 omg :) Dec 23 02:35:02 thank you for your help, mmontour and thomasg :) Dec 23 02:35:19 np Dec 23 02:36:05 :) Dec 23 02:39:41 if i do cp -r / /media/card/ Dec 23 02:39:49 and then change bootargs to root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 Dec 23 02:39:51 will this work? Dec 23 02:41:42 You should also add a "rootdelay=5", and edit the new /etc/fstab Dec 23 02:50:40 it works well for me the same way Dec 23 02:51:44 my neo is highly customized, i dont want to lose my configurations ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 23 02:59:56 2007