**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 03 10:59:56 2008 Mar 03 11:05:06 openmoko: 03thomas * r4148 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/ChangeLog.ipkg: opkg: restore original ipkg ChangeLog Mar 03 11:45:04 i'm having trouble unsubscribing from the mailing lists Mar 03 11:45:09 are there some known issues? Mar 03 12:33:41 mickey Mar 03 12:34:15 i'd made a question about the howto in the Booting the Openmoko in RAM with JTAG and openocd Mar 03 12:34:34 and tell me that you're the guru :) Mar 03 12:35:44 you tell to set a break point in the 0x33f80000 memory location Mar 03 12:36:09 and the loads the memory binary at that point Mar 03 12:36:22 (teh u-boot) Mar 03 12:37:11 looking in the SMC datasheet i can not find any memorya map reference to that location Mar 03 12:38:26 sorry, samsung datasheet (um_s3c2442b_rev12.pdf) Mar 03 12:54:15 any news on powermanagement? Mar 03 14:24:29 hi Mar 03 14:24:46 hi Mar 03 14:25:13 i can't build openmoko with mokomake Mar 03 14:25:49 join the club Mar 03 14:26:00 this is my error: http://rafb.net/p/876HLp18.html Mar 03 14:27:41 * josch is just doing a fresh build - stay tuned if i will also come to join ^^ Mar 03 14:28:17 lol Mar 03 14:30:24 i've tried to build openmoko in my laptop too. But it was building python_$somthing for about 13 hours before i stopped it :P Mar 03 14:30:53 i don't think it's normal :| Mar 03 14:31:05 it is Mar 03 14:31:15 but it depends on the machine you're building on Mar 03 14:31:58 ynezz: i'm building on a core2duo 1.6GhZ 4MB L2 cache whith 2GiB 667Mhz ram Mar 03 14:32:04 are you all building with om or oe dev Mar 03 14:32:11 with -j4 optimization Mar 03 14:32:49 Man_of_Wax: a clean first build takes a loooooooooooooooooong time... Mar 03 14:32:57 subsequent builds are quicker Mar 03 14:33:07 way loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong Mar 03 14:33:37 ScaredyCat: but 13 hours and i was still on 396 of 52xx things to build Mar 03 14:33:54 if it's building it's ok Mar 03 14:34:02 omg Mar 03 14:34:24 i can't keep my pc compiling for weeks -_- Mar 03 14:35:10 Man_of_Wax: The tasks are not identical units of time; you are probably half way done already. Mar 03 14:35:19 ok Mar 03 14:35:24 what are you compilong on a bbc micro? Mar 03 14:35:51 15:32:12 < Man_of_Wax> ynezz: i'm building on a core2duo 1.6GhZ 4MB L2 cache whith 2GiB 667Mhz ram Mar 03 14:36:17 Dual core 2.4GHz cpu, 2GB 667MHz RAM, -j 3 switch, with locale generation disabled takes about 7 hours for me. Mar 03 14:36:22 well, that's btter than my lappy Mar 03 14:36:45 turning locale generation it a very very good idea Mar 03 14:36:57 ScaredyCat: already done Mar 03 14:37:00 re Mar 03 14:37:01 i'll time it on the quadcore box tonight ;D Mar 03 14:37:12 xcasex: lol Mar 03 14:37:32 * mwester is ashamed to admit that his Quad-core with 4GB RAM ended up running Windows XP... Mar 03 14:37:40 ~lart mwester Mar 03 14:37:41 * apt cuts off mwester's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper Mar 03 14:37:43 mwester, mmmm paravirtualization Mar 03 14:37:52 why the buliding is so slow? It take less time to compile the whole gnome + X.org Mar 03 14:37:56 mwester, vmware w. linux & 3 virt. cpus Mar 03 14:38:29 xcasex: Vmware only supports dual cpus in the virtual machine. I didn't know that when I installed Windows on this thing. Mar 03 14:38:42 ouch Mar 03 14:38:47 Yeah. Mar 03 14:39:42 I should have done it the other way around: install Linux on the box, and run XP in the virtual machine! Mar 03 14:39:56 i'm starting make in my laptop right now, is there some command to resume the build or mokomake do it by default? Mar 03 14:39:57 whe re can i find the lowlevel_foo source code Mar 03 14:40:17 Man_of_Wax: it will just work by default. Mar 03 14:40:26 ok Mar 03 14:41:11 Man_of_Wax: you shut the lid on your lappy... move to mew location open up and resume Mar 03 14:45:23 ScaredyCat: i put the laptop upside down on my desk for preventig overheating :P Mar 03 14:51:44 holy shit! It finished to compile! Mar 03 14:52:18 congrats! Mar 03 14:52:38 it takes 13 hours + 5 mins -_- Mar 03 14:52:57 mine takes almost 24 hours Mar 03 14:52:58 :D Mar 03 14:53:16 mine took 36 Mar 03 14:54:09 mine took 11 years 5weeks 6 days 4 hours 15 minutes and 32 seconds.... Mar 03 14:54:34 mine took "42" Mar 03 14:54:46 ScaredyCat: dont forget the 53 milliseconds Mar 03 14:54:56 moin moin Mar 03 14:57:28 hahaha Mar 03 14:58:05 i can't chroot in mokobox folder O_o Mar 03 14:58:05 openmoko: 03graeme * r4149 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/misc/alsa-state-files/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Mar 03 14:58:05 openmoko: Add proper sound states for fic-gta02 to SVN. These will be the golden Mar 03 14:58:05 openmoko: states to use from now on, all diffs should be against these states. Mar 03 15:09:44 is .../openembedded/packages/* a way to get the current list of supported bitbake recipes? Mar 03 15:10:33 s/supported// Mar 03 15:11:22 ok..list of recipes :) Mar 03 15:12:02 if i want to see if a recipe exists is that where to look in other words Mar 03 15:12:29 Actually, "find .../openembedded/packages -name '*.bb'" would be better; there are some recipes that are (or at least were) in subdirs. Mar 03 15:13:17 sure....but this is the area to look at then? Mar 03 15:14:02 openmoko: 03werner * r4150 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (nor-bootmenu.patch series): (log message trimmed) Mar 03 15:14:02 openmoko: This patch makes u-boot on GTA02 always enter the bootmenu when booting from Mar 03 15:14:02 openmoko: NOR. This de-complexifies interaction with the user and is actually also Mar 03 15:14:02 openmoko: needed for correctly handling the exception vectors. Mar 03 15:14:04 openmoko: nor-bootmenu.patch: Mar 03 15:14:06 openmoko: - cpu/arm920t/start.S (booted_from_nor): set this flag if booting from NOR Mar 03 15:14:08 openmoko: - board/neo1973/gta02/gta02.c (board_late_init): always enter the boot menu if Mar 03 16:06:54 openmoko: 03werner * r4151 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (nor-irqvec.patch series): (log message trimmed) Mar 03 16:06:54 openmoko: If we boot from NOR, the exception vectors are provided by the NOR as well. Mar 03 16:06:54 openmoko: Once the AUX button is released, SteppingStone appears at address 0, giving Mar 03 16:06:54 openmoko: us invalid exception vectors. Thus, any subsequent interrupt would crash Mar 03 16:06:55 openmoko: the system. This patch makes u-boot wait until AUX is released, copies the Mar 03 16:06:57 openmoko: exception vectors into SteppingStone, and only then proceeds to enable Mar 03 16:06:59 openmoko: interrupts. Mar 03 16:23:35 hello everybody Mar 03 16:23:38 :) Mar 03 16:50:10 freesmartphone.org: 03mickeyl * r89 10/trunk/software/pyneod/ (pyggld.py pyneod.ini): pyneod: don't use pyggld for now, don't use ent for now Mar 03 16:51:30 freesmartphone.org: 03mickeyl * r90 10/trunk/software/pyneod/pyneod.ini: pyneod: don't use MUXer for now (demo) Mar 03 17:49:49 quick question: im a soft developer from brazil. Can I buy an openmoko already? :) Mar 03 17:50:05 no, they are all out i think Mar 03 17:50:15 you can get a second hand unit from eBay if you are lucky Mar 03 17:50:46 note that this is the developer preview unit, if you want the fully featured device called Freerunner, you will have to wait a few more months Mar 03 17:52:52 right Mar 03 17:53:10 do you think we eill have something ready for the public this year? Mar 03 17:53:14 *will Mar 03 17:53:27 most likely before june at least Mar 03 17:53:36 thats great =) Mar 03 17:53:41 read this marcio: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-February/013555.html Mar 03 17:53:48 thanks. Mar 03 18:14:49 Anyone got any idea if, an 8GB card will work with the freerunner ? Mar 03 18:15:09 yep all sizes ok accord kernel dves Mar 03 18:22:50 cool :) Mar 03 18:29:23 is there anyone here, flashed the uboot without having the debug board? Mar 03 18:30:05 not me but there was a guy said he did 7 or 8 times.... no probs .. Mar 03 18:30:25 but, do i need to nand erase first? Mar 03 18:30:56 nand erase = complete erase = brick Mar 03 18:31:16 ok, but otherwise it will write incorrect = brick anyway :) Mar 03 18:31:25 but good to erase rootfs and kernel in case new image is smaller than old Mar 03 18:31:28 that mostly applies to the jffs2 partition Mar 03 18:31:37 but note that I haven't flashed uboot Mar 03 18:31:40 emre_: Just "nand erase rootfs" if you're replacing jffs Mar 03 18:31:45 yeah, what mjr said :-) Mar 03 18:32:33 ok, so now I'm flashing the uboot now without erasing the uboot partition and with fingers crossed. Mar 03 18:35:32 I'm waiting for there to be a change I care about in uboot before I update Mar 03 18:35:40 which afaik so far hasn't happened Mar 03 18:35:57 sd boot. Mar 03 18:36:04 ah, yeah Mar 03 18:36:24 I've been happy w/ boot from flash + my scripts to set stuff up the way I like after a flash Mar 03 18:36:49 ln -s the card to /home/root, install apps, & such Mar 03 18:37:39 i've tried to do the same thing with /usr but couldn't be successful so far :) Mar 03 18:47:51 is there anybody booting from sd here? Mar 03 18:51:30 emre_: I boot from SD Mar 03 18:52:06 emre_: Were you ln -s to /usr to keep apps you had installed? Mar 03 18:52:08 i'm having problems... have you done anything else other than written in the wiki page? Mar 03 18:52:24 Because you can add dest card /media/card/ipkg to your ipkg.conf for that Mar 03 18:52:38 wurp2: cool, i didn't know that.. Mar 03 18:52:54 The main issue right now is the 2.6.24 kernel, which for a while had broken SD-card support. I'm still using 2.6.22.5 Mar 03 18:53:03 ok, i.c. Mar 03 18:53:28 You have to install ipkg-link to your flash every time you reflash, and then run it, but after that all your apps are back - you don't have to reinstall them all individually Mar 03 18:53:36 I haven't reviewed the wiki instructions recently. What problem are you having? Mar 03 18:54:08 it keeps writing stuff on the screen which i cannot read because of the scroll speed. Mar 03 18:54:15 so, no idea on what's going on :) Mar 03 18:55:50 wurp2: what is ipkg-link? Mar 03 19:01:10 a tool to link (for example) packages installed on the card to the root fs so they're transparently usable Mar 03 19:02:18 That sounds like the kernel issue. I think there's a config option to turn off that debugging, but I haven't had time to try it myself. Mar 03 19:05:59 Yeah, as mjr said - after you install your packages to the card, they won't work until you ipkg-link them Mar 03 19:06:09 but one ipkg-link mount command will link 'em all Mar 03 19:06:45 And if your reason for moving to SD boot is lack of space for packages, ipkg-link and a card dest in ipkg.conf will solve that for you Mar 03 19:09:48 Is there any plans when it comes to openmoko + dmcrypt ? Mar 03 19:22:05 has anyone here come up with a mixer setting which doesn't produce an echo on the other side of the line yet ? Mar 03 20:03:23 polz: Any recent-ish release shouldn't have echo Mar 03 20:03:41 Check out Category:Snapshot_Review on the wiki Mar 03 20:03:50 hmm... Mar 03 20:04:02 which ipkg are the alsa states supposed to be in ? Mar 03 20:04:08 There are also instructions for fixing the issue, but releases in the last couple of weeks are clean Mar 03 20:04:34 I dunno... are the base files like that even in ipkgs? Mar 03 20:05:15 There's a sideband setting that you turn all the way down Mar 03 20:05:43 But again, it's all there in the snapshot reviews. If you want to fix it yourself, look at one of the january snapshots Mar 03 20:05:53 Or install a feb snapshot and it should be gone already Mar 03 20:12:19 I'm using qtopia Mar 03 20:12:38 so I'll just try copying the alsa state files over from the snapshot rootfs Mar 03 20:12:43 polz: oh Mar 03 20:13:05 Well, if you're on qtopia, applying the fix from a january snapshot's instructions will prolly be esaier Mar 03 20:13:12 s/esai/easi/ Mar 03 20:13:12 wurp2 meant: Well, if you're on qtopia, applying the fix from a january snapshot's instructions will prolly be easier Mar 03 20:15:00 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TonyGarnockJones at the bottom of the page Mar 03 20:15:08 is the instructions to update your alsa file Mar 03 20:15:13 gotta go for a while Mar 03 20:15:50 too late Mar 03 20:16:10 I've already copied the files over Mar 03 20:18:01 how sturdy is the neo body? Mar 03 20:18:06 aaw, crap Mar 03 20:18:10 now nothing works Mar 03 20:18:16 compared to e.g. nokia e90? Mar 03 20:18:23 i watched the pictures of opening the case Mar 03 20:18:28 and it seemed quite fragile plasciv Mar 03 20:19:04 wurp2: oh, and it wasn't echoing _my_ voice, it was echoing the voice of whoever I was trying to talk to Mar 03 20:19:44 polz: The plastic case is fairly flexible, but it is actually thicker than my other phones' cases. Mar 03 20:20:02 er, that's piksi that was asking... sorry. Mar 03 20:20:51 piksi: btw, with a screen that big, I don't think you want to be too rough on the phone Mar 03 20:25:31 * XorA wonders why no-one sent him gsmhandset.state patches Mar 03 20:33:56 mwester: what kind of phones are you referring to? Mar 03 20:34:48 Treo 650, MPX220 are the two I've taken apart. The cases on those are significantly more flimsy and delicate than the Neo. Mar 03 20:35:13 Neo is the only phone Ive ever had to lever open :-) Mar 03 20:35:33 polz: of course not but i'd expect it to be sturdy enough not to twist/bend/break. Mar 03 20:35:59 (easily) Mar 03 20:36:29 polz: besides 2,8" isn't *that* big or well - at least here in finland all nokia models get a rough test in normal usage and mostly survive without any probs Mar 03 20:37:03 i'd expect the same from neo screen (or more) than from e90 inside screen Mar 03 20:38:09 piksi: well, it doesn't bend Mar 03 20:38:32 piksi: and I don't want to test whether it can break or not Mar 03 21:11:00 cya Mar 03 23:14:17 does the latest buildhost image have a working top status bar? Mar 03 23:18:12 * Psi_ wonders what the "underground" image is about Mar 03 23:21:08 The top status bar flakes out on me periodically with almost all releases Mar 03 23:21:19 Where do you see an 'underground' image? Mar 03 23:21:37 the latest buildhost say it Mar 03 23:21:48 moko-underground-image-fic-gta01.jffs2 Mar 03 23:21:54 the daily one? Mar 03 23:21:58 yeah Mar 03 23:21:59 that is weird Mar 03 23:22:01 its also smaller Mar 03 23:22:03 Psi_: see Mickey's blog from FOSDEM .. watch the video .. very cool Mar 03 23:22:08 ok Mar 03 23:22:18 Oh, is the underground image the pyneo image! Mar 03 23:22:19 ? Mar 03 23:22:22 yes Mar 03 23:22:31 * Psi_ watches the video Mar 03 23:22:36 Awesome! I gotta get me some of that :-) Mar 03 23:22:57 I couldn't find any web pages with info about that platform, though Mar 03 23:25:31 Psi_: I don't see the underground image on the daily builds site (http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/?C=M;O=D) Mar 03 23:26:14 my mistake, ive always been going here http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/ Mar 03 23:26:34 I see Mar 03 23:26:40 It's ScaredyCat's repository Mar 03 23:26:55 Which is the last place I would expect to see a build based on python, or nearly so :-) Mar 03 23:26:58 it always seems to have both ScaredyCat and a normal image Mar 03 23:28:00 Ah, maybe he keeps both up to date Mar 03 23:28:21 Anyone have an idea what kernel goes with underground? Mar 03 23:28:30 no idea Mar 03 23:40:13 what are the .summary files? Mar 03 23:40:40 no idea Mar 03 23:53:33 hm.. the gta01 internal psu doesnt make a very happy sound if you pull the battery out while its got usb power Mar 03 23:55:14 Psi_: yes, it's generally a bad thing to do according the OM folks, as apparently it may result in the magic smoke being let out of the PMU chip. Mar 03 23:55:23 yeah Mar 03 23:55:55 i done it twice by accident and pulled out the plug quickly Mar 03 23:56:34 it really does sound like the switchmode reg is getting quite upset :P Mar 04 00:08:14 oh crap, I do that fairly often Mar 04 00:08:18 I guess I won't any more :-) Mar 04 00:08:30 cant you hear the phone screaming at you Mar 04 00:08:57 there is a quite distinct high pitch static like sound that comes out of the phone Mar 04 00:09:02 sure, but a pc makes annoying beep when you turn it on too Mar 04 00:09:07 Oh, I don'tthink I hear that Mar 04 00:09:14 just high pitched beeping Mar 04 00:09:28 not gonna do it again to see what it sounds like ;-) Mar 04 00:09:34 yeah, dont Mar 04 00:09:57 im going to post to the community list, just to remind ppl not to do it Mar 04 00:10:14 good plan, I'm sure I've never seen anywhere telling me not to Mar 04 00:20:41 openmoko: 03alphaone * r4152 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/artwork/themes/openmoko-standard-2/matchbox/theme.xml: Mar 04 00:20:41 openmoko: The xml parser in matchbox-wm seems strange. Remove spaces between attribute and Mar 04 00:20:41 openmoko: value which caused matchbox-wm to crash. Mar 04 02:51:53 openmoko: 03werner * r4153 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/ (series wm8753-rout2-inv.patch): Mar 04 02:51:53 openmoko: GTA02 device has a speaker between LOUT2 & ROUT2 and in this mode ROUT2 Mar 04 02:51:53 openmoko: needs to be inverted. This patch adds a mixer control for this. Mar 04 02:51:53 openmoko: Signed-off-by: Graeme Gregory Mar 04 02:58:50 openmoko: 03werner * r4154 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/pcf50633.patch: (log message trimmed) Mar 04 02:58:50 openmoko: From: matt_hsu Mar 04 02:58:50 openmoko: Currently, the battery indication is not correct on Neo. It can be fixed Mar 04 02:58:50 openmoko: to apply the following changes. Mar 04 02:58:50 openmoko: # Attached patch Mar 04 02:58:54 openmoko: # Disable CONFIG_APM_POWER Mar 04 02:58:56 openmoko: Since this configuration would let apm_get_power_status is registered Mar 04 03:04:22 It doesn't look as if there's any way to shut down yet in the underground release :-) Mar 04 03:08:18 lol, why do i have the dialer keyboard inside terminal now. heh Mar 04 03:11:14 I haven't managed that one yet Mar 04 03:11:32 Have you had the matchbox keyboard hide the log so you can't unlock the screen? Mar 04 03:11:41 s/log /logo / Mar 04 03:11:42 wurp2 meant: Have you had the matchbox keyboard hide the logo so you can't unlock the screen? Mar 04 03:11:52 na Mar 04 03:12:02 That's happened to me several times Mar 04 03:27:07 openmoko: 03sean_chiang * r4155 10/trunk/src/target/audio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): workable audio state for gta02 Mar 04 03:38:34 openmoko: 03werner * r4156 10/trunk/src/host/devirginator/environment.in: Mar 04 03:38:34 openmoko: The copy u-boot from NOR to NAND feature produced a non-bootable system. Mar 04 03:38:34 openmoko: At least the preboot pointers where wrong and this change fixes them. Mar 04 03:38:34 openmoko: However, there may be more issues. Mar 04 03:38:34 openmoko: Since the usefulness of this feature is somewhat questionable, we just Mar 04 03:38:36 openmoko: turn it off by default, and maybe look into it again at a later time. Mar 04 03:45:39 openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4157 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/src/phone-kit/moko-sms.c: sms: change debug msg (Erin Yueh) Mar 04 03:52:59 openmoko: 03sean_chiang * r4158 10/trunk/src/target/audio/: duplicated Mar 04 03:56:37 openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4159 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gsmd: change TE character set to UCS2 (olv) Mar 04 04:10:08 openmoko: 03werner * r4160 10/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/doc/ (. dfu-util.1): Mar 04 04:10:08 openmoko: From: Uwe Hermann Mar 04 04:10:08 openmoko: Here's a small manpage I've written for dfu-util. Mar 04 04:23:41 openmoko: 03tick * r4161 10/developers/tick/Test_env_script_GTA02A5/setupenv: update images source Mar 04 06:39:48 anyone running debian unstable aka sid? Mar 04 06:40:46 having trouble configuring it alltogether but removing that check from the configure doesn't keep the program from running though Mar 04 06:40:57 checking Python bindings for gnome... configure: error: Mar 04 06:40:57 **** The python bindings for gnome2 (gnome2-python) could not be found. Mar 04 06:41:52 all releveant python-gnome2-* packages are installed Mar 04 06:43:21 and python2.5 is also installed, but does 2.5 need to be the default for gramps 3.0? Mar 04 06:43:30 $ python -V Mar 04 06:43:30 Python 2.4.4 Mar 04 06:49:28 blah Mar 04 06:49:33 ignoreme Mar 04 06:49:36 wrong channel :P Mar 04 06:57:25 openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4162 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gsmd: revert to r4158 (Erin Yueh) Mar 04 07:38:22 cool FIC opened the CAD`s drawings .. nice Mar 04 07:57:43 good morning Mar 04 07:58:04 mooon Mar 04 07:58:18 morning all Mar 04 08:18:29 morning Mar 04 08:45:10 morning Mar 04 08:53:48 is openmoko-toolchain target (using MokoMakefile) supposed to be working? Mar 04 08:54:17 it fails in do_compile with a lot of standard includes missing Mar 04 08:55:33 it fails here too... has done for weeks Mar 04 09:49:13 hi Mar 04 09:49:44 ppl off topic question: any one heard about a work to port openmoko to zaurus 3200 ? Mar 04 09:50:59 b52laptop: i didnt Mar 04 09:51:18 krish, hm ok Mar 04 09:52:56 nup Mar 04 09:53:03 tho technicaly Oe builds for that Mar 04 09:53:06 it could work Mar 04 09:53:10 if u got it sane in qvga Mar 04 09:54:49 ok Mar 04 09:57:32 anyone going with gaming on openmoko? Mar 04 09:59:30 gaming? Mar 04 09:59:34 be more specific Mar 04 10:01:34 running games on openmoko Mar 04 10:01:42 or developing games for openmoko Mar 04 10:02:00 how about running a NES emulator on the freerunner, is it fast enough? Mar 04 10:03:48 what kind of games Mar 04 10:03:50 3d fp's Mar 04 10:03:53 like crysis? Mar 04 10:04:04 or simpler 3d like quake 1 or doom 2? Mar 04 10:04:10 or 2d scrollies Mar 04 10:04:14 or 2d adventure games Mar 04 10:04:24 or just casual gaming like tetris Mar 04 10:04:25 etc. Mar 04 10:05:09 battle for wesnoth works Mar 04 10:05:10 not that hight Mar 04 10:05:13 openttd works Mar 04 10:05:14 *high Mar 04 10:05:24 may be 3D fps Mar 04 10:05:30 but not great as doom Mar 04 10:05:34 scumvm works Mar 04 10:05:44 frozen bubble works Mar 04 10:05:48 josch: those directly run Mar 04 10:06:05 frozen bubble is expected to work Mar 04 10:06:11 anyway Mar 04 10:06:38 you can play a lot of sdl games on it (wesnoth and openttd only being examples) Mar 04 10:06:39 i guess people need fun games like the old dos roadfighter Mar 04 10:07:15 josch: i am not able to make out how openmoko picks the buttons for gaming Mar 04 10:07:24 if they run on linux, can be ported to armv4t, are not too ressource hungry and can be played via touchscreen there is nothing against gaming on openmoko Mar 04 10:07:37 it sure does pick player move by moving the phone Mar 04 10:08:33 correct Mar 04 10:08:38 note the gfx are weak Mar 04 10:08:47 3d u wont get - unless u are a wiz at software 3d Mar 04 10:08:57 games @ vga are prettry limited Mar 04 10:09:01 * * OM Bug 1237 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:09:02 * * Volume Control Mar 04 10:09:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1237 Mar 04 10:09:04 dont expect scrolling and "fullscreen" updates Mar 04 10:09:12 i'd be great if it can be coupled with bluetooth joystick like http://imshopping.rediff.com/books/imagechek/shopping/pixs/4142/2/thumb_29Sep_ps2_wireless_controller.jpg Mar 04 10:09:16 at best u'd hsve a still scene and some sptrites/things changing Mar 04 10:10:03 krish, if your bluetooth joystick is working with linux it will work with openmoko Mar 04 10:10:42 if your game supports joysticks and is playable on a embedded device like the neo then you can play this game with a joystick on the neo Mar 04 10:10:49 it's as easy as that Mar 04 10:10:54 josch: ah kool Mar 04 10:11:14 i hope openmoko does participate in gsoc Mar 04 10:12:05 gsoc? you mean google soc? Mar 04 10:12:45 josch: yes Mar 04 10:13:03 can someone donate me the green color one? http://www.thealarmclock.com/euro/images/FICphone.jpg Mar 04 10:13:43 no longer available as far as I know Mar 04 10:13:50 the next version gta02 will be all black Mar 04 10:14:00 * * OM Bug 1238 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:14:01 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page is a good starting point Mar 04 10:14:01 * * SIM card contacts not displayed Mar 04 10:14:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1238 Mar 04 10:20:28 josch: i can also use my usb joystick with neo ? Mar 04 10:20:43 maybe Mar 04 10:20:53 if 100mA are enough for it Mar 04 10:21:10 gta02 has usb working in host mode so you can connect usb devices to it Mar 04 10:21:22 but only those that require no more than 100mA Mar 04 10:21:37 2,5" harddrives eg. will probably not work Mar 04 10:26:00 * * OM Bug 1239 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:26:01 * * Unable to terminate call Mar 04 10:26:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1239 Mar 04 10:30:00 * * OM Bug 1240 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:30:02 * * SMS crashes Today app Mar 04 10:30:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1240 Mar 04 10:33:00 * * OM Bug 1241 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:33:01 * * Delete alert messages on home screen Mar 04 10:33:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1241 Mar 04 10:34:01 * * OM Bug 1242 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:34:02 * * Saving contacts through call logs Mar 04 10:34:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1242 Mar 04 10:34:20 openmoko: 03graeme * r4163 10/trunk/src/target/ (OM-2007.2/misc/alsa-state-files/ audio/): Move alsa states to a more generic path Mar 04 10:47:59 openmoko: 03werner * r4164 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (gta02-bootmenu.patch nor-bootmenu.patch uboot-gta02.patch): (log message trimmed) Mar 04 10:47:59 openmoko: This ports wake-up reason handling forward from GTA01. In particular, it makes Mar 04 10:47:59 openmoko: sure that we don't power up unless the POWER button is held down for a while. Mar 04 10:47:59 openmoko: The user interaction of all this still needs a bit of fine-tuning. Mar 04 10:48:01 openmoko: uboot-gta02.patch: Mar 04 10:48:03 openmoko: - board/neo1973/gta02/gta02.c (board_late_init): enabled wake-up reason Mar 04 10:48:05 openmoko: handling and updated it for the PCF50633 Mar 04 10:50:00 * * OM Bug 1243 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:50:01 * * Phone lock in GTA02 can't resume Mar 04 10:50:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1243 Mar 04 10:50:36 omg this is too many bus Mar 04 10:50:38 bugs Mar 04 10:52:01 * * OM Bug 1244 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:52:02 * * Swap orientation horizontal view not calibrated Mar 04 10:52:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1244 Mar 04 10:52:18 :_( Mar 04 10:53:00 * * OM Bug 1245 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:53:01 * * Top middle button in call logs does nothing Mar 04 10:53:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1245 Mar 04 10:56:01 * * OM Bug 1246 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:56:02 * * SMS view filters do not work Mar 04 10:56:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1246 Mar 04 10:58:01 * * OM Bug 1247 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 04 10:58:02 * * Call log view filters differ Mar 04 10:58:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1247 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 04 10:59:57 2008