**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 21 02:59:56 2008 Mar 21 03:00:16 What are people generally building bleeding edge with -- lots of AUTOREVs? Mar 21 03:00:33 mwester: moko-autorev enabled is how official OM images are produced Mar 21 03:00:50 Oh - well that explains a lot, then. Mar 21 03:00:53 :) Mar 21 03:01:09 I never seem to be quite in sync... I wondered why... :D Mar 21 03:02:09 Also, can we turn off MMC debug messages in the defconfig in OE? or is that still needed for GTA02 kernel work? Mar 21 03:02:29 mwester: I shall check with kernel guys later today, I think its working now Mar 21 03:03:12 Cool. Again, no rush. I'm just thinking it's slowing the SD card access, and may be obscuring other kernel messages as they scroll out of the buffer so fast. Mar 21 03:04:00 yeah it slows SD card to a crawl Mar 21 03:04:21 I think sometimes people forget there is a large use base of GTA01 Mar 21 03:06:35 I suspect you are correct, but I certainly wouldn't want to distract anyone from the 02 right now :) Mar 21 03:06:57 As long as we can keep the 01 booting, we can fix the details once the 02 is shipping... Mar 21 03:22:00 * * OM Bug 1286 has been created by tick(AT)openmoko.com Mar 21 03:22:03 * * vePackage" failed. Mar 21 03:22:05 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1286 Mar 21 03:39:33 Are we supposed to have to run mokomake as root? Mar 21 03:39:40 no Mar 21 03:39:44 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mar 21 03:39:51 good Mar 21 03:40:03 you may need to do very limited stuff as root Mar 21 03:40:07 Such as flashing Mar 21 03:40:11 I'm not, but I had to make my 2.4 site-lib writable for my user for it tor un Mar 21 03:40:17 s/tor un/to run/ Mar 21 03:40:17 wurp2|kindahere meant: I'm not, but I had to make my 2.4 site-lib writable for my user for it to run Mar 21 03:42:37 * Sonicadvance runs mokomake as super root Mar 21 03:46:29 hmm, staging gdk-pixbuf-csource is dificult Mar 21 03:48:03 | Compiling /home/wurp/projects/neo1973/mokomake/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/python-2.5.2-ml1/image/usr/lib/python2.5/test/test_multibytecodec.py ... Mar 21 03:48:06 | Sorry: UnicodeError: ("\\N escapes not supported (can't load unicodedata module)",) Mar 21 03:48:11 Any suggestions? Mar 21 03:48:29 hrm, maybe install unicodedata module for python2.5 ;-) Mar 21 03:48:38 gah, thats a mickeyl type question and he is probably playing on the beach Mar 21 03:48:52 I hope so Mar 21 04:01:20 gah network here is so slow compared to home Mar 21 05:32:21 Does anyone know (I don't have a phone) if it's possible to program the neo/freerunner so that all outgoing calls are sent though an intermediate phone number? Specificly, I'd like to use an asterisk phone system to route calls, but I don't want to have to manualy dial one number, then the number i want to reach. I guess calling card users are in the same boat. Mar 21 05:36:03 yes Mar 21 05:36:09 however, it's not setup to do that. Mar 21 05:36:16 Bit the hardware does not preculde that. Mar 21 05:36:45 bt Mar 21 05:36:47 but Mar 21 05:37:57 cool Mar 21 05:38:13 That will help me 'sell' the phone to manangement Mar 21 05:38:53 I wonder how much custom programming it would take. Mar 21 05:39:16 at the moment, its very non-user-ready Mar 21 05:39:50 You basically want to simply dial a prefix before all numbers? Mar 21 05:40:22 Or rather - dial one number, then pause, then send over DTMF the desired number to call? Mar 21 05:59:54 heh, 'non-user-ready' :) Mar 21 06:00:07 also: Mar 21 06:00:08 * doc|home wants Mar 21 06:16:51 SpeedEvil: the later one. dial a number, the asterisk server picks up, dial the 'real' number. doing this transparently is the key. Mar 21 06:17:58 not really hard - as I unserstand. Mar 21 06:18:35 cool Mar 21 06:18:49 Obviously, it's all software. Mar 21 06:19:03 and since it's all open source, anything is possible. Mar 21 06:19:21 you should have seen the reaction when I showed them trixbox :) Mar 21 06:19:50 having a cell phone setup like that would basicly mean a portable extention Mar 21 08:14:23 good morning Mar 21 08:15:55 Hopscotch, good morning Mar 21 08:18:16 Morning both of you Mar 21 08:19:08 * Fradeve è a spasso: Pero ora assente. Mar 21 09:13:03 hey Mar 21 09:13:08 ScaredyCat: your image doesn't work for me. Mar 21 09:13:29 what i'm wondering is if there is some sort of NAND reformatting voodoo that I'm supposed to do, but didn't, because I'm lame and missed the details ... Mar 21 09:14:21 torpor: dfu should nand erare before flash anyway Mar 21 09:14:33 torpor: as long as u-boot is newer than what originally shipped Mar 21 09:19:55 XorA: its definitely a newer u-boot, because i put it on there a few months ago to support boot-from-SD. Mar 21 09:19:59 and damnit now my neo won't turn on. Mar 21 09:20:20 * torpor waits patiently before giving up on the neo1973 in lieu of some other openmoko-running phone .. like .. ermm .. Mar 21 09:21:15 what ode sit do torpor Mar 21 09:22:15 your image? well, i see tons of messages that are quite unusual on kernel-boot ,but too fast for me to read, then it sits there trying to start the GUI, which doesn't start, and drops me to a console prompt. Mar 21 09:22:34 one time (i tried a few times to burn it) i got an openmoko screen with some dudes face superimposed over it - i'm assuming thats you? Mar 21 09:22:41 but the GUI fails. Mar 21 09:22:46 hrm... Mar 21 09:23:05 so i've got a dual-boot scenario here on my neo, i'll try to boot from internal SD (my old image) and see if i can figure out whats going on. Mar 21 09:23:12 can you ssh in and restart the gui there? Mar 21 09:23:27 assuming the damn thing boots now, i actually *had* to do the battery-yank maneuver a couple times last night in order to burn your image a few times. Mar 21 09:23:41 at keast you should be able to get to the logs Mar 21 09:23:41 its not booting yet, i'll wait 20 minutes and give it a go,. Mar 21 09:23:46 :O Mar 21 09:23:56 i know the battery-yank maneuver is *highly* dangerous, btw, but i had to do it .. Mar 21 09:26:46 well, jsut so long as you unplug the usb first Mar 21 09:26:54 yeah .. i didn't do that. :( Mar 21 09:27:28 is it *guaranteed* that this will crash my neo? Mar 21 09:27:54 torpor: hi are you at the metalab an sunday? Mar 21 09:28:02 *on Mar 21 09:28:07 Marcel_M: yes! Mar 21 09:28:09 tonight too. Mar 21 09:28:44 * XorA is confused by this talk of battery yank Mar 21 09:28:57 torpor: tonight and tomorrow im busy but ill try to come sunday Mar 21 09:29:04 * XorA is always confused Mar 21 09:29:08 if you yank the battery while the usb is plugged in and powering the device, it will scream, and blow up some power charging circuitry or something. Mar 21 09:29:13 Marcel_M: ok Mar 21 09:29:20 damnit i hope i haven't toasted my neo. Mar 21 09:29:36 torpor: great see you sundays Mar 21 09:29:38 well, if you hear it scream, unplug the usb or put the battery back Mar 21 09:29:43 torpor: I dont think charging circuit will actually blow up, just scream in pain Mar 21 09:29:45 yeah ok Mar 21 09:29:48 its on now, so thats good. Mar 21 09:29:52 what should i do now ScaredyCat ? Mar 21 09:30:03 torpor: at least Ive never managged to kill one yet, and I was the one discovered the scream of pain\ Mar 21 09:30:04 put the battery back in.. Mar 21 09:30:08 i really want a working neo today that can play movies, i have to demo some things and i'd like to use the neo to show these movies .. Mar 21 09:30:17 how flat was the battery ? Mar 21 09:30:24 XorA: i've already killed one neo, i don't wanna kill my last one! Mar 21 09:30:43 we still need to make a neo repair center in .eu Mar 21 09:30:59 yeah... send us all you neo... Mar 21 09:31:00 :D Mar 21 09:31:01 ScaredyCat: my battery was quite flat, then i charged up for an hour yesterday, did the image burn, and then got into the screaming antics. .. this morning the battery was flat and i was worried, but it seems that its now on and working. Mar 21 09:31:07 XorA: that we do Mar 21 09:31:39 battery behaviour is much better with gta02 Mar 21 09:31:42 ok, so can you boot it then ssh in and try to start x Mar 21 09:31:46 ScaredyCat: booting my old from-SD image now, will upgrade that and see if it works, then i'll try to work out whats up with your image... Mar 21 09:31:55 gha Mar 21 09:31:58 gah! Mar 21 09:32:07 XorA: do you have a gta02? Mar 21 09:32:16 torpor: yes Mar 21 09:32:21 ScaredyCat: i gotta get my neo working for this demo of the video's, so let me do that first and then i'll try to debug Mar 21 09:32:27 XorA: sorry, havne't been paying attention. Mar 21 09:32:30 does the FreeRunner support 3G ? Mar 21 09:32:34 i'm really looking froward to being able to buy a gta02.. Mar 21 09:32:35 k Mar 21 09:33:28 CVirus: no Mar 21 09:33:43 torpor: Im currently sitting in OpenMoko office Mar 21 09:33:59 pics or it's not true :) Mar 21 09:34:15 XorA: 2.5G only ? Mar 21 09:34:22 it's fecking snowing! Mar 21 09:34:30 CVirus: same as GTA01 Mar 21 09:34:31 XorA: cool, did not know that about you .. ;) Mar 21 09:34:42 ScaredyCat: where you at? snowed here in vienna too .. Mar 21 09:34:44 XorA: what does the GTA01 support ? Mar 21 09:34:50 CVirus: 2.5G Mar 21 09:34:52 .nl torpor.. Mar 21 09:35:02 where in the .nl? Mar 21 09:35:11 Lelystad ... Mar 21 09:35:13 XorA: thanks Mar 21 09:35:20 60km east of Amsterdam Mar 21 09:35:25 ah. Mar 21 09:35:53 i miss .nl to be honest. i lived in germany for 5 years before i moved to vienna last year, and it was always great to get away from germany and visit my dutch friends for the weekends .. ;) Mar 21 09:36:33 .. and here I am trying to escape from .nl :) Mar 21 09:37:08 heh heh Mar 21 09:37:16 maybe its just nice to visit and not live there. Mar 21 09:37:29 i often said that about amsterdam: nice to visit, wouldn't want to live there. Mar 21 09:37:44 I think it's like that no matter where you go... Mar 21 09:37:45 but then actually i *would* want to live there, just when i'm rich and single. (not rich, and not single right now.. ;) Mar 21 09:37:59 yeah, Amsterdam is ok if you're <=26 Mar 21 09:38:13 heh heh Mar 21 09:38:16 or nearing-40 Mar 21 09:38:17 ;) Mar 21 09:38:26 I just got there :( Mar 21 09:39:15 XorA: was your pixbuf hack to 'just ignore the error' ? Mar 21 09:39:39 \oh shit i think my ipkg is borked Mar 21 09:39:47 ScaredyCat: no, to delete the problem files, they arent needed anyway Mar 21 09:40:05 ScaredyCat: problem wouldnt exist if we did a full gtk+ install which we dont Mar 21 09:40:06 root@fic-gta01:~# ls -l /usr/bin//ipkg-cl Mar 21 09:40:07 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Mar 12 2008 /usr/bin//ipkg-cl Mar 21 09:40:15 ^^ damnit Mar 21 09:40:23 can someone put the ipkg-cl binary somewhere i can dl it straight to my neo? Mar 21 09:40:53 XorA: mmm I'm still getting those errors.. Mar 21 09:41:02 ScaredyCat: rm the files Mar 21 09:41:26 didn't you push that change ? I thought I saw it Mar 21 09:41:44 ScaredyCat: yeah, but it only applies if you rebuild the package Mar 21 09:41:48 [2008-03-21 04:01:11] xora org.oe.dev * r8bc85f8f... / (1 packages/gtk+/gdk-pixbuf-csource-native_2.10.14.bb): Mar 21 09:41:48 [2008-03-21 04:01:11] gdk-pixbuf-csource-native_2.10.14.bb : hack to remove wrong *.la files as Mar 21 09:41:48 [2008-03-21 04:01:11] they are wrong and not needed. Mar 21 09:42:07 I just tried to rebuild, hence my confusiotn Mar 21 09:42:21 someone, anyone? Mar 21 09:42:32 just a tick torpor Mar 21 09:43:11 off to a meeting Mar 21 09:44:00 torpor: ... Mar 21 09:44:05 http://buildhost.automated.it/ Mar 21 09:44:22 thx ScaredyCat Mar 21 09:44:40 i'm hoping i won't have lib problems too .. Mar 21 09:47:07 Good morning :) Mar 21 09:47:15 ~curse pth Mar 21 09:47:16 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, pth ! Mar 21 09:47:43 It've been unable to build pth-2.0.2-r0.bb for a month now Mar 21 09:48:55 what is it? Mar 21 09:49:00 morning btw Mar 21 09:49:27 I don't really know what it is, but openmoko-image builds it Mar 21 09:49:31 is there a way to do an 'integrity' check with ipkg, to make sure that packages are actually installed properly as per some CRC or something in the pkg? i'm not that familiar with ipkg as i should be, alas. .. Mar 21 09:49:41 Some thread stuff I guess, but it sucks :( Mar 21 10:01:50 ScaredyCat: If I want to make a newer bb file, how do I get bitbake to build it? Mar 21 10:02:03 I'm trying to replace pth-2.0.2 with 2.0.7 Mar 21 10:02:16 But it just keeps building 2.0.2 Mar 21 10:03:31 mv pth-2.0.2.bb pth-2.0.2.bb_ Mar 21 10:03:42 bitbake -c rebuild pth Mar 21 10:03:49 Ok, it's cached or something Mar 21 10:03:52 thanks Mar 21 10:04:04 you should see the cache update Mar 21 10:04:14 Hehe Mar 21 10:04:51 anyon eknow if i can make ipkg do an integrity check? Mar 21 10:05:13 i ran out of disk space in th emiddle of 'ipkg upgrade' and didn't notice until too late, so now there are some packages that are not correctly installed .. Mar 21 10:05:46 torpor, all downloaded packages are checked with md5sum Mar 21 10:05:53 oh Mar 21 10:05:59 you ran out of disk space Mar 21 10:06:01 thos: but are they failed if the disk is full? Mar 21 10:06:03 yup Mar 21 10:06:07 too bad Mar 21 10:06:11 you'll have to reflash Mar 21 10:06:14 i've solved the disk space problem now but i want to integrity-check my system? Mar 21 10:06:15 ipkg sucks Mar 21 10:06:18 oh damn, really? Mar 21 10:06:27 i'm hopingn to fix this in opkg Mar 21 10:06:34 oh man Mar 21 10:06:37 thats really a nuisance. Mar 21 10:06:59 this is a custom-built image on SD card, which includes a whole suite of dev tools (onboard compiler and such) and this is really important .. Mar 21 10:07:04 so i guess i shouldn't have run out of disk space. Mar 21 10:10:19 yup, pretty much Mar 21 10:10:31 torpor, if you know which packages failed, you can force reinstall Mar 21 10:10:42 yeah i'm trying to figure out which packages are screwed up .. Mar 21 10:11:03 if ipkg had an integrity chek that'd be useful. Mar 21 10:11:08 so please add it to opkg! :) Mar 21 10:12:53 whats the default ip address for your image ScaredyCat ? is it 192.168.1.202, or .. ? Mar 21 10:13:26 its booting now and i see an openmoko screen with some dudes face superimposed over it .. Mar 21 10:16:41 yes Mar 21 10:16:43 202 Mar 21 10:16:53 1.202 or 0.202? Mar 21 10:17:25 What version of glibc does om build now? Mar 21 10:21:17 Seems to be 2.5... Mar 21 10:23:46 0.202 Mar 21 10:23:50 the default Mar 21 10:36:42 ok Mar 21 10:36:50 now i've really screwed my whole thing up. Mar 21 10:36:52 damnit. Mar 21 10:36:58 can't ssh to my SD image any more. Mar 21 10:37:01 can't open a terminal Mar 21 10:37:02 gah! Mar 21 10:38:10 so which image should i try next, to give me a movie-playing neo1973 that i can use this afternoon for a demo? Mar 21 10:40:39 I haven't been able to ssh to my neo for a while either.. Mar 21 10:40:50 But I blame that on my gentoo ;) Mar 21 10:41:44 B Mar 21 10:51:34 well now i'm just burning the image/filesystem i made yesterday .. so hopefully that will work. Mar 21 10:51:46 and then i'll do my movie demo and try to debug my SD filesystem later. damn. Mar 21 10:52:00 * * OM Bug 1287 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 21 10:52:02 * * No icon indication of Bluetooth, GPS, WiFi Mar 21 10:52:04 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1287 Mar 21 10:52:07 i really wish someone would step up to the plate and publish an "awesome openmoko SD image" that has everything in it .. ;) Mar 21 10:52:30 i want a multi-boot config too - qtopia, default openmoko factory, awesome-openmoko-on-SD .. Mar 21 10:54:01 * * OM Bug 1288 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com Mar 21 10:54:01 * * No power option for Wifi in power menu Mar 21 10:54:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 Mar 21 10:54:49 can someone tell me what dinge is all about? Mar 21 10:55:45 torpor: dont you know my monster-images? Mar 21 10:55:55 Marcel_M: not yet! :) Mar 21 10:56:00 tell me all about it. Mar 21 10:56:08 <-- a bit behind on the openmoko exciting news. Mar 21 10:56:23 torpor: my server is down right now Mar 21 10:56:29 doh Mar 21 10:56:36 mhm Mar 21 10:56:48 ill paste the packages in it Mar 21 10:57:31 ok Mar 21 10:57:57 mom (my pastebin is down too) Mar 21 10:58:44 torpor: http://pastebin.com/m5bed94fa Mar 21 10:59:04 nice. Mar 21 10:59:25 what is synergy? Mar 21 10:59:37 ooh .. navit onboard too .. Mar 21 10:59:40 where do i get your image? Mar 21 10:59:41 torpor: its a bit big (~180mb packed) Mar 21 10:59:54 i'm booting-from-SD (1gig SD card) anyway so thats okay with me! :) Mar 21 11:00:10 ok Mar 21 11:00:26 maybe we can talk about how to make an SD-image available on sunday .. Mar 21 11:00:32 torpor: my server is down right now Mar 21 11:00:42 yeah thats the best Mar 21 11:01:30 ok Mar 21 11:01:47 in the meantime i'll just go with my mokomakefile-built image and hope i can get mplayer working on it .. Mar 21 11:01:59 there are diffent images on my rep (eg navigation ,sdcard,underground,monster,maybe ill add agames image too) Mar 21 11:02:25 can you make your monster-SD image include *everything* in the otehr images? i'm mostly interested in having an 'everything' image, personally .. ;) Mar 21 11:02:46 thats right now ;) Mar 21 11:03:05 you mean you have that already? Mar 21 11:03:05 \/clear Mar 21 11:03:09 torpor: with a native build tree too! Mar 21 11:03:37 great! Mar 21 11:03:42 heh heh Mar 21 11:03:49 i want to run mokomakefile on my neo .. Mar 21 11:03:53 Are the any other use issues when between MicroSD and MicroSDHC, other than you can't boot off MicroSDHC (but you can use it as a filesystem) [assuming that is correct] Mar 21 11:04:05 yes i included most of the packages from the other images into the monster Mar 21 11:04:22 okay then i will try the monster image out with you on sunday then, how about that? Mar 21 11:04:33 torpor: great! Mar 21 11:04:57 fredthecat: you can boot from sdhc Mar 21 11:04:59 okay it looks like i'm finally back to having a bootable neo.. Mar 21 11:05:07 my mokomakefile image works now. Mar 21 11:05:38 i really wish there was a way to set the network/usb-gadget ip address with a GUI .. its a terrible nuisance that i have to do it in terminal .. Mar 21 11:05:47 i guess i'll try to add settingsgui .. ;) Mar 21 11:05:59 d'oh! i spoke too soon .. NO GUI! Mar 21 11:06:00 wtf? Mar 21 11:06:08 sitting at an angstrom boot-prompt console .. Mar 21 11:06:12 what to do now .. Mar 21 11:06:23 fredthecat: take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Boot_from_SDHC Mar 21 11:06:39 So it it fully supported using, say, a 8Gb MicroSDHC? Mar 21 11:06:57 (oh... just reading link now) Mar 21 11:07:15 yeah im using a 4gb and a 6gb josch is using a 8gb Mar 21 11:07:32 i have a 4gb Mar 21 11:07:37 hope thats enough! Mar 21 11:07:56 torpor: it should Mar 21 11:08:14 why isn't the GUI starting, damnit .. Mar 21 11:08:50 Do any of use routinely use the "boot from SDHC workaround" on a regular basis? Mar 21 11:10:35 heh? wtf? boko:~/hak j$ ssh root@192.168.0.202 Mar 21 11:10:35 root@192.168.0.202's password: Mar 21 11:10:35 Usage: /etc/init.d/dbus {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} Mar 21 11:10:57 fredthecat: i use autoboot from sdhc (i wrote what i have done to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Autoboot_from_SDHC) Mar 21 11:11:52 torpor: you updated your build? Mar 21 11:12:09 yup Mar 21 11:12:43 i'll try a new bild as of today though. Mar 21 11:12:51 very annoying Mar 21 11:12:59 torpor: jup Mar 21 11:13:00 Marcel_M: is there an easy way to get one of your images and use it? Mar 21 11:13:14 i got no place to put it Mar 21 11:13:20 how big? Mar 21 11:13:39 bittorrent? Mar 21 11:13:40 or does anyone know of a good image i can use to do this movie-playing thing? Mar 21 11:14:00 ScaredyCat: i'd use your image (have in the past) but it seems to be b0rked too right now .. Mar 21 11:14:21 hrrmmm.... I'm running it! Mar 21 11:14:29 but how is it that its bokred then? Mar 21 11:14:46 can you give me links to your images that you're running - maybe i dl'ed the wrong thing yesterday .. Mar 21 11:14:47 I don't know - you didn't say what was wrong Mar 21 11:15:05 what was wrong: it doesn't boot the GUI, all i get is an openmoko splash screen with some dudes face. Mar 21 11:19:26 http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01.jffs2 Mar 21 11:19:47 with Mar 21 11:19:48 thats the one i tried Mar 21 11:19:49 http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/uImage-2.6.24+svnr4194-r4165-r3-neo1973.bin Mar 21 11:20:06 i'll dl them both again now and try again then tell you what i see okay? Mar 21 11:20:24 k Mar 21 11:21:15 if you can ssh in and try to start x with the /etc/init.d script you should get any errors reported... Mar 21 11:21:21 but I don;t see any Mar 21 11:21:32 i cannot ssh in with my image - some fubar about dbus init .. Mar 21 11:21:46 dl'ing your image now Mar 21 11:21:54 will report to you progress in 20 minutes or so .. Mar 21 11:22:44 k Mar 21 11:22:51 * ScaredyCat goes back to hoovering Mar 21 11:23:03 damn the uboot timeout is annoying.. Mar 21 11:25:18 okay ScaredyCat i'm flashing your jffs2 now (kernel is done already) and i will go have lunch and then let you know how it goes after lunch... Mar 21 11:35:32 argh.. Can't ssh in, and I cant write on that shitty multi-tap kb in the terminal (back doesn't work for instance) Mar 21 11:35:37 * CM takes a walk instead Mar 21 11:48:38 ScaredyCat: booting now. Mar 21 11:48:50 if this doesn't work i'm going to use the image i just finished building.. Mar 21 11:50:54 ScaredyCat: you there? Mar 21 11:51:03 its sitting at the openmoko screen with the guys face on it. Mar 21 11:51:08 doing nothing. Mar 21 11:52:45 torpor, sounds like your xinit script is broken Mar 21 11:52:59 not mine, scaredy's .. Mar 21 11:53:05 i'm ssh'ed in .. what do i check? Mar 21 11:53:08 torpor, try ssh-ing in an Mar 21 11:53:19 do this: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart Mar 21 11:53:33 ok, same result - openmoko logo screen with dudes face. Mar 21 11:53:38 no errors from xserver-nodm. Mar 21 11:54:22 now what? Mar 21 11:54:23 errors are redirected Mar 21 11:54:33 can't remember what the log file is Mar 21 11:54:43 torpor, try an image from the buildhost? Mar 21 11:54:46 okay so now there is the icon screen. Mar 21 11:54:54 ScaredyCats' images.. Mar 21 11:55:18 i guess i should note that there is *no* sim card in, so maybe there's just a long timeout on the network search or something .. ? Mar 21 11:55:44 nope Mar 21 11:55:52 i gotta say its no fun looking up ScaredyCats nostrils .. Mar 21 11:55:53 shouldn't be Mar 21 11:56:26 i see the icon bar at the top with usb/bt/battery indicatros .. usb is on green. and i see 'not searching' messages at the botom, over and over and over.. and scaredycats nostril pic too Mar 21 11:56:52 well done Mar 21 11:57:43 well this is useless to me, so i'll wipe it and put my own image on there .. Mar 21 11:58:13 you have no sim! Mar 21 11:58:20 * ScaredyCat slaps torpor Mar 21 11:58:24 right Mar 21 11:58:28 since when do i need a sim? Mar 21 11:58:29 turn off gsm then Mar 21 11:58:55 i'll put a sim in tonight and leave it there. but fr now i need to demo these damn movies. Mar 21 11:58:59 how do i do that? Mar 21 11:59:21 so it is working.. Mar 21 11:59:35 i guess there's a requirement that the phone have a sim card, eh? Mar 21 11:59:36 the first time you boot after flashing some stuff goes on,... Mar 21 11:59:39 did not know about that. Mar 21 11:59:43 it's not a phone Mar 21 11:59:53 it might even be trying to copy contacts off your sim... Mar 21 11:59:56 it's a portable device Mar 21 12:00:17 thos: thats how i use it. i don't care about the phone services, just the fact that i can build software for it and run GPS too .. ;) Mar 21 12:00:17 it's billed as an open phone Mar 21 12:01:11 kill gsmd then Mar 21 12:01:21 /etc/init.d/gsmd stop Mar 21 12:01:51 never mind i put a sim in Mar 21 12:01:57 but i don't remember the pin, hope that won't bother me. Mar 21 12:03:00 images here dont require SIM's what has ScaredyCat done? Mar 21 12:03:17 hi Mar 21 12:04:22 ScaredyCat: youre images are borked! Mar 21 12:04:22 root@fic-gta01:~# /etc/init.d/gsmd stop Mar 21 12:04:23 Stopping GSM daemon: no /usr/sbin/gsmd found; none killed Mar 21 12:04:36 root@fic-gta01:~# ls -l /usr/bin/gsm* Mar 21 12:04:36 ls: /usr/bin/gsm*: No such file or directory Mar 21 12:07:41 * ScaredyCat slaps yall Mar 21 12:08:02 bah! Mar 21 12:08:06 <-- frustrated. Mar 21 12:09:19 /usr/sbin Mar 21 12:10:29 what's in your /etc/release file ? Mar 21 12:10:44 cat /etc/release Mar 21 12:10:44 ScaredyCat release scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-200803192231 Mar 21 12:14:13 too late i'm already burning my mokomakefile image scaredy .. ;) Mar 21 12:14:38 sorry but i gotta demo these movies at 2pm.. Mar 21 12:14:42 I think you have a bigger problem... Mar 21 12:14:51 we shall see if thats the case or not Mar 21 12:14:57 since it doesn't look in /usr/bin Mar 21 12:15:00 i really wonder if i didn't skip a NAND re-factor step or something. Mar 21 12:15:06 that /usr/bin was a typo .. Mar 21 12:15:29 how old is your uboot too ? Mar 21 12:15:39 its 1.2.0 Mar 21 12:15:48 may 19 2007 Mar 21 12:15:51 you sure it's clearing the flash on reflash? Mar 21 12:15:59 dunno. no i'm not sure. Mar 21 12:15:59 that's old Mar 21 12:16:03 i don't really wanna hack uboot. Mar 21 12:16:11 fair enough Mar 21 12:16:19