**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 27 02:59:56 2008 May 27 03:30:15 hello May 27 03:31:05 is already known the producer of the Freerunnr's wifi module? May 27 03:33:00 fale: atheros iirc May 27 03:33:19 bmidgley: :) thank you May 27 04:40:34 its a beautiful machine May 27 04:40:46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xReBKNxPy6Y&NR=1 May 27 04:49:11 weeeee qtopia! May 27 06:13:42 anyone tried dosbox on the gta01? May 27 06:29:02 good morning May 27 06:48:15 freesmartphone.org: 03heikki.paajanen * re3ba01b67d63 10/src/serial.c: Serial handling fixes May 27 06:48:15 freesmartphone.org: 03heikki.paajanen * r86d0627abcd3 10/ (18 files in 4 dirs): May 27 06:48:15 freesmartphone.org: PDU handling fixes May 27 06:48:15 freesmartphone.org: Better support for Neo1973 May 27 06:48:15 freesmartphone.org: Added vendor configuration May 27 06:48:16 freesmartphone.org: Fixed IMSI query to use standard command instead of Telit specific May 27 07:58:26 openmoko: 03zecke * r01850811d706 10/src/libraries/qtopia/qtopiaapplication.cpp: [lifecycle] If the last window is closed and we don't have a running task quit May 27 07:58:27 openmoko: 03zecke * r5da5add88176 10/devices/ficgta01/src/plugins/phonevendors/ficgta01/vendor_ficgta01.cpp: [ficgta01] Remove unused variable, make the compiler happy May 27 07:58:27 openmoko: 03zecke * r1c8d2dd4a06c 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [telephony] Stop guessing when a call is missed, rely soley on %CPI May 27 07:58:29 openmoko: 03zecke * r81e1bcb0d16d 10/devices/ficgta01/src/plugins/phonevendors/ficgta01/vendor_ficgta01.cpp: [telephony] We don't parse %CREG, no need to enable that on resume May 27 07:58:32 openmoko: 03zecke * r097dc77994fd 10/devices/ficgta01/src/plugins/phonevendors/ficgta01/vendor_ficgta01.cpp: [telephony] Disable unsolicited result code for network registration May 27 07:59:22 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r55b50918521a 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [linux] Use defconfig-2.6.24 and make the kernel the same for gta01 and gta02 again May 27 07:59:22 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * rd425cc802d77 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [qtopia] More recent version to get the life-cycle of Qtopia fixed May 27 07:59:23 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * rc9a689f47457 10/packages/openmoko-projects/etk-theme-ninja_svn.bb: NO AUTOREV! May 27 07:59:24 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r4e2be8f06cc4 10/packages/openmoko-projects/etk-theme-ninja_svn.bb: Use SRCPV instead of SRCREV May 27 07:59:27 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * re9d178a8cdc4 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [qtopia] Increase the Qtopia version May 27 08:36:02 * * OM Bug 1417 has been created by tony(AT)openmoko.com May 27 08:36:03 * * ASU update suspend/resume fail May 27 08:36:04 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1417 May 27 08:38:17 any news about ASU? May 27 08:38:30 for gta01 May 27 09:02:19 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * rbac0d9bf3438 10/conf/distro/include/ (moko-autorev.inc sane-srcrevs.inc): [srcrev] Add revs for the etk ninja theme May 27 10:05:58 openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.april-update * r7836f6f441d3 10/packages/openmoko-projects/ (diversity-nav/switch-gps.patch diversity-nav_svn.bb): [diversity] Add patch to diversity-nav May 27 10:18:57 openmoko: 03thomas * r4449 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.c: opkg: improve error reporting May 27 10:27:01 * * OM Bug 1418 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:27:02 * * Battery and time icons disappeared by drag to end of Right side on Applet. May 27 10:27:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1418 May 27 10:28:01 * * OM Bug 1419 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:28:02 * * Saved tag as same place will be overlap. May 27 10:28:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 May 27 10:28:10 * * OM Bug 1420 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:28:12 * * Battery icon does not change immediately when plug USB or Charger. May 27 10:28:14 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1420 May 27 10:29:01 * * OM Bug 1421 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:29:02 * * when Plug the USB cable or Charger icon does not changed if Battery is full icon May 27 10:29:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1421 May 27 10:30:01 * * OM Bug 1423 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:30:02 * * it Makes serious noise when incoming a call or arriving new message during Blank May 27 10:30:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1423 May 27 10:30:34 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r16f19979eda1 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Build a more recent version of illume May 27 10:30:34 openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r257319dfe108 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc: [srcdate] Bump the EFL SRCDATE to the 28th of May May 27 10:31:02 * * OM Bug 1424 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:31:02 * * There is no function to serching the number from contacts on sending screen in May 27 10:31:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1424 May 27 10:33:02 * * OM Bug 1426 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:33:03 * * Edit screen is disappear if touch save without type anything May 27 10:33:04 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1426 May 27 10:34:01 * * OM Bug 1427 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:34:02 * * Scroll bar does not appear in list screen if the Tags more then 6. May 27 10:34:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1427 May 27 10:37:01 * * OM Bug 1429 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com May 27 10:37:02 * * Device has crashed and function is freezing rarely. May 27 10:37:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1429 May 27 10:41:53 openmoko: 03thomas * r4450 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.c: opkg: fix typos May 27 10:42:40 greeting! May 27 10:43:06 * Psi tries the 3rd build tonight in an attempt to find one that the cfcard works in May 27 11:19:27 openmoko: 03thomas * r4451 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.c: opkg: report errors from opkg_remove_pkg May 27 11:20:00 openmoko: 03thomas * r4452 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/tests/libopkg_test.c: opkg: add string versions of error codes to libopkg_test May 27 11:32:01 g'afternoon May 27 11:34:11 d3vice: here is morning, yet, lol May 27 12:49:49 openmoko: 03andrew * r4453 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (4 files in 3 dirs): May 27 12:49:49 openmoko: Rebase gta02fake support on top of May 27 12:49:49 openmoko: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git#andy, update README, etc. May 27 13:20:43 openmoko: 03andrew * r4454 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/neo1973.c: May 27 13:20:43 openmoko: Use the NAND chip from GTA02 in GTA02fake (128MiB, 1.8V). May 27 13:20:43 openmoko: (Gets detected by u-boot and linux but flash.sh isn't supported yet). May 27 13:24:21 is that GTA02 emulation for qemu that's going in? May 27 13:27:36 Vegar: nope, there's no GTA02 emulation and there won't be from OpenMoko side May 27 13:27:48 this is the GTA02f emulation what was there already May 27 13:27:55 oh, ok May 27 13:27:56 s/what/that/ May 27 13:27:56 balrog-kun meant: this is the GTA02f emulation that was there already May 27 13:28:08 why is it named fake? May 27 13:28:17 because it's not a GTA02 May 27 13:28:35 but it's indistinguishable from a userspace developer point of view May 27 13:33:11 ok May 27 14:51:00 hi there May 27 14:51:08 any german here? May 27 14:52:03 i want to buy the freeRunner in germany when can i do this. they say all april but now it is end may May 27 14:52:13 ich spreche keine deutsch May 27 14:52:20 unless that's not what you're asking May 27 14:52:42 ??? May 27 14:52:50 sprache* May 27 14:52:57 yeah, nvm, poor joke :) May 27 14:53:04 :-) ahh i c May 27 14:53:34 thanks CVirus :) I took one semester of german May 27 14:53:40 i am waiting so long i hope to get this phone pretty soon May 27 14:53:55 it's in mass production May 27 14:54:49 thats good but our reseller dont has it at the moment and he said delivery in early may May 27 14:55:02 but no it is late may May 27 14:55:36 right, none of the sellers have it May 27 14:57:08 i saw all movies now about the freeRunner i want this nice phone :-) :-) :-) May 27 15:02:27 what are the hardware requirments for the x86 image for developing on a normal pc May 27 15:03:19 i created a virtual machine cpu 3 gigahertz an 1 Gig Ram an it was very slow booting and the control on the software was very slow. May 27 15:04:02 x86 image, or qemu?. May 27 15:04:23 moment i will checl May 27 15:04:24 k May 27 15:04:30 qemu is damn slow May 27 15:04:40 it sure is May 27 15:05:25 It was basically unusable on my 2 GHz, 1 Gig Ram machine May 27 15:09:40 i installed it on a ubuntu machine like in this tut http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Automatic_emulation_in_Ubuntu May 27 15:10:30 and it was very slow May 27 15:10:45 it is qemu i c May 27 15:11:16 okay how it is faster? i want to develop a tool May 27 15:11:26 raw x86 is _much_ faster May 27 15:11:32 okay May 27 15:11:53 any tut available? May 27 15:12:07 I forget what the name is. May 27 15:12:14 Maybe search emulation on the wiki May 27 15:12:16 zardos? May 27 15:52:44 any of u lucky so and so's with a freerunner tried ASU and used the gps, does it use gypsy or is that not ready yet in ASU? May 27 15:54:15 zedstar: all the info is in git, go look yourself May 27 15:56:08 xora: that wont tell me much other than code exists or doesnt exist? May 27 15:57:04 zedstar: well it will tell you if gypsy is on freerunner image May 27 15:57:18 hello May 27 15:59:25 xora: i was curious to see if anyone actually used it? May 27 15:59:50 zedstar: ahah, then you asked the wrong question :-) May 27 16:00:00 * XorA|gone has used ASU a lot May 27 16:00:17 but I havent bothered to put the phone near window May 27 16:00:41 diversity-nav is kinda naff at the moment anyway, needs a UI overhaul May 27 16:00:46 ahoi :) May 27 16:01:12 xora: well i was kinda building up to that :) May 27 16:03:23 xora: im interested really if anyone has tried it within the geoclue framework from dbus etc and got some success May 27 16:05:10 zedstar: freerunner still needs a cool location backend service, I think mickeyls work will eventually get round to it May 27 16:07:31 xora: yeh....geoclue would do me especially if the gps actually does return coordinates (assuming a fix) to it May 27 16:07:53 the gps spits out NMEA May 27 16:08:40 xora yeh but gypsy handles this and provides ways to register callbacks for coordinates etc from what i remember reading...dont need to worry about NMEA May 27 16:09:01 xora or more specially request to geoclue which handles it at a higher level May 27 16:09:35 Can gyspy also give you NMEA? May 27 16:09:38 xora i just was curious as to what state this was all at....i could go look at the code i guess May 27 16:09:40 zedstar: well we arent working on that in OM at the moment May 27 16:11:46 speedevil: i dont think so as it just provides a higher level abstraction to that...well the dbus interface anyway May 27 16:14:00 gyspy looks really nice May 27 16:14:13 yeh it does May 27 16:14:24 zedstar: just wondering, as I don't want to lose any info. May 27 16:14:40 i especially like the idea of it as part of geoclue so i can just say "give me some coordinates" and geoclue chooses suitable provider May 27 16:15:32 * XorA|gone goes for dinner May 27 16:17:04 speedevil: yeh need to look at code to see how it talks to the receiver i guess....im just interested in a basic interface May 27 16:18:19 It looks like gipsy provides every info from the NMEA data. May 27 16:18:58 TeNoVi: I want it in NMEA format though, including all the satellite infor and .... May 27 16:19:07 For potential postprocessing. May 27 16:21:49 how's the gps on the phone? is it so good i can use it as a gps in my car? typing in adresses, saving locations and so on? May 27 16:22:08 No May 27 16:22:19 there is no real routing software yet May 27 16:22:28 car should be rather ok as you can have a gps antenna in a convenient location May 27 16:22:28 and there won't be - other than google-maps and clones May 27 16:22:46 Unless someone releases a (closed source) program to do it. May 27 16:22:50 as concerns the software to process the actual location info... have fun. write it! ;) May 27 16:23:22 There is stuff like tangogps for example, which can show maps from openstreetmap. May 27 16:23:35 For a number of reasons, that data has problems for routing. May 27 16:24:16 i try to implement this anyway... May 27 16:24:17 it has problems; can be of use, but it'll get some things consistently wrong... May 27 16:24:40 I for one would like a route-finder anyway May 27 16:24:58 For example, there is no way to enter turn restrictions into the OSM data May 27 16:25:06 there is May 27 16:25:13 in the relations May 27 16:25:22 tedo: sure you can enter it as you like May 27 16:25:28 tedo: there is no standard for it though May 27 16:25:34 tedo: and none of the tools support it. May 27 16:25:48 tedo: so it's a meaningless point ATM. May 27 16:26:15 Tedo: i'll support you moraly May 27 16:26:24 :P May 27 16:26:29 Slemmen: :) May 27 16:26:47 tedo: supply patches for JOSM and potalatch, that are not clearly insane, and a standard on the wiki, and you probably have it done. May 27 16:27:00 yeah at least last I checked there were some proposals for turn restriction relations, but they really need to be specced out properly May 27 16:27:05 and tools support them May 27 16:27:48 Slemmen: The GPS is great, just the software is lacking as of now. May 27 16:28:44 SpeedEvil: i think turn restrictions are not essential in the beginning. They can easily added later on in the routing sw May 27 16:29:10 Note also that I don't own a car. So using the OSM data for routing isn't as dangerous for me ;) May 27 16:30:01 speedevil: looking at the gypsy code there is nmea-parser.c so shouldnt be hard to get what u want May 27 16:30:03 sure you can do routing software without (initially) support for that, but point rather is that it needs to get in on all levels and is not there on pretty much any May 27 16:30:53 How about one of the opensource GPS software? there's plenty on sourceforge.net , must be able to use some of it? to make the job easier :D May 27 16:31:07 The software is the really easy bit. May 27 16:31:12 The map data is the hard part. May 27 16:31:36 yeah May 27 16:31:45 SpeedEvil: that's true May 27 16:31:55 and yes there's software already (navit and pyroute at least, though both had their problems in the neo when last tried) May 27 16:33:05 so, what map data is currrently used? May 27 16:33:14 None. May 27 16:33:20 There isn't a map application as default. May 27 16:33:26 tangogps can use OSM data May 27 16:33:34 But it's solely a moving map May 27 16:33:47 well, it is a tracer as well ;P May 27 16:33:53 Well - true. May 27 16:34:01 http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/News May 27 16:34:02 but yeah, no attempt at routing May 27 16:35:26 you can import osm data to navit and use it for routing, but the (0.4) version I tried wasn't very usable on the neo and very slow too (presumably because it was compiled for some other arm variant and many instructions were emulated :] ) May 27 16:35:44 pyroute is there also but it's also very slow, probably being python... May 27 16:41:47 hello :) May 27 16:57:57 * raboof would love to have navigation based on OSM - they have nice coverage in .nl May 27 16:58:32 * devcow devcow wants a neo or a freefrunner but no one gives him one May 27 16:59:04 are the OSM maps small enough to fit on a freerunner though? May 27 16:59:25 I'm sure for a given area May 27 17:00:02 say, 'the benelux and a bit of germany'? May 27 17:00:26 don't know what the benelux is.. May 27 17:00:35 belgium, netherlands and luxembourgh May 27 17:00:50 no idea :p May 27 17:02:01 Qwell: thing so :) May 27 17:02:19 my a780 has a 512 mb transflash May 27 17:02:24 for a gps software May 27 17:02:26 for whole of germany May 27 17:02:44 therefore i guess, the maps should fit :) May 27 17:03:06 especially since coverage is still poor in some areas May 27 17:03:16 yeah there's no real problem fitting a useful amount of the data that is there May 27 17:03:32 uh 256 mb only May 27 17:03:38 obviously, you aren't going to fit the entire world though May 27 17:03:46 never May 27 17:03:46 (maybe?) May 27 17:03:49 :) May 27 17:03:53 bz2 :D May 27 17:03:54 would need a couple of gigs May 27 17:04:07 but since it is vector data it should be very small May 27 17:04:15 is the battery problem solved in the FreeRunner release has someone any knowledge about that? May 27 17:04:25 some mapping company in .nl decided to shift business focus and donated their mapping material to OSM May 27 17:04:28 * flaushy wants a freerunner :/ May 27 17:04:33 raboof: cool May 27 17:04:36 a bit outdated, but a great start to get the ball rolling May 27 17:04:39 devcow: power lasts longer n freerunner May 27 17:04:41 yeah May 27 17:04:54 i was quite impressed by the data at our university May 27 17:05:16 but .nl donates a lot of money to NGOs anyhow May 27 17:05:16 how long in normal use? May 27 17:05:25 devcow: no idea, I dont use it normally May 27 17:05:28 so i guess they would have helped as well :) May 27 17:05:40 devcow: just a lot longer than gta01 is all I know May 27 17:05:40 NGO's? May 27 17:06:02 are there not developers here who have a prototype? May 27 17:06:11 Non-governmental organisations. May 27 17:06:25 non profit orgs May 27 17:06:26 devcow: yes, developers dont use the phone normally May 27 17:07:50 ok i am not much more shifter May 27 17:08:44 i mean i am none the wiser May 27 17:08:48 devcow: for example, Im yet to get a freerunner where gsm works, so I cant even make phone calls May 27 17:09:04 devcow: but I do know battery life on gta02 is better\ May 27 17:10:21 that sounds good ;-) okay the result is if you get a freeRunner it is still not useable for everydays work is that right? May 27 17:10:51 doubt it May 27 17:11:03 devcow: I only have test hardware, some developers are using gta02 as phone May 27 17:12:34 anyway I must go May 27 17:12:52 cya May 27 17:24:07 any news about ASU on gta01? May 27 17:38:31 heya~ May 27 17:46:52 bedboi: doesnt it work? May 27 17:47:16 XorA|gone: is there any release for GTA01? May 27 17:47:54 bedboi: I made buildhost start generating images last week May 27 17:48:07 ah, i didn't know May 27 17:48:19 any pointers? May 27 17:48:50 qtopia-openmok-x11-image May 27 17:52:16 on buildhost.openmoko.orG? May 27 17:53:26 yes May 27 17:54:24 damn i can't find it :L) May 27 17:55:15 bedboi: try http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080524-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 May 27 17:55:24 thanks May 27 17:55:40 * XorA|gone buys bedboi new glasses May 27 17:56:02 eheh May 27 17:56:15 thanks, actually it's not that simple May 27 18:01:48 no idea if image works though May 27 18:03:26 XorA|gone, you didnt test it?? May 27 18:03:35 josch: nope May 27 18:12:51 XorA|gone: i'm flashing it right now May 27 18:55:34 emdete: Where is the best place for me to see Zad/Underground status? May 27 18:56:02 And, does anyone know how to check the balance on e.g. an AT&T GoPhone account using GSM commands? May 27 18:59:05 wurp2: I don't know about AT&T, but on my Fido you get the balance by calling *225 and then receiving a USSD message (I posted the exact commands in a bugzilla entry, search for "USSD") May 27 19:01:14 mmontour: Thanks much May 27 19:02:28 I assume libgsmd-tool echoes the USSD message back in atcmd mode? May 27 19:03:38 I made the call & see the release message, but don't see a USSD message. It sounds as if that method doesn't work for AT&T :-( May 27 19:03:40 yes, it is supposed to May 27 19:04:06 searching bugzilla :-) May 27 19:04:09 i haven't seen a network where USSD or any related command would work May 27 19:04:49 You have to "AT+CUSD=1" or something first to turn on responses May 27 19:06:08 bbiab - lunchtime May 27 19:09:35 I see the AT+CUSD=1 in the bugzilla entry. Unfortunately I still get the same behavior after that. May 27 19:10:37 balrog-kun: It looks as if mmontour was seeing USSD responses for Fido (per defect 1226) May 27 19:11:11 I also recall having seen the USSD response after dialing a call from libgsmd-tool, but I don't see them any more. May 27 19:26:50 freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r71e1f66d14d8 10/ (src/sim.c test/sim_unit.py): IMSI fixes May 27 19:28:05 someone with qemu-arm knowledge here? May 27 19:35:03 wurp2: maybe check the gsmd logfile to see if the responses are coming from the modem but are not making it to libgsmd-tool. Or try the GSM commands from a raw terminal rather than through gsmd May 27 19:35:50 mmontour: I'll check the log files. I'm not sure how to get a raw terminal to try the commands from... May 27 19:37:02 malik1972: balrog-kun is the one May 27 19:37:10 wiki "Manually using GSM" should have some hints. There is also a terminal pass-through in u-boot. I haven't used this in months so I don't remember the exact commands. May 27 19:37:50 malik1972: what knowledge in particular? May 27 19:39:13 balrog-kun: hi, i am trying to get asu working with qemu-neo1973 May 27 19:40:06 hi May 27 19:40:32 balrog-kun: i get some "not enough memory on device error", booting progress bar is about 100 May 27 19:41:17 balrog-kun: so i spend qemu more ram and nand (128-128), bit nothing changes May 27 19:42:04 malik1972: you probably need to change the partition layout in u-boot, also May 27 19:42:12 to get a bigger parttion that is May 27 19:42:20 malik1972: i don't think this is related to qemu at al May 27 19:42:21 l May 27 19:42:45 it's what would happen on a real neo1973 also if you booted the same rootfs May 27 19:43:15 here is a screenshot http://imagebin.ca/view/4SmKkWxL.html May 27 19:44:18 balrog-kun: i also tried to boot from sd, it looked very promising, then i got some e17 exquisite error messages May 27 19:44:37 malik1972: i'd try the recent asu images from buildhost, i think XorA|gone slimmed them down a fair bit for gta01 May 27 19:45:10 balrog-kun: i got one slimmed down from kdean6 May 27 19:46:34 lemme check what the default rootfs partition size in flash.sh is, maybe it's an issue of 1 MB or some tiny difference May 27 19:47:02 do you need any informations of my changes May 27 19:47:12 it's 60 MiB May 27 19:47:39 you may try to sqeeze 2 addttional MB probably May 27 19:47:48 i changed the ram in neo1973.c before compiling May 27 19:48:11 okay will try it May 27 19:48:25 mmontour: I see the way to access a gsm terminal directly on the wiki. Thanks much! It looks like too much to do at work; I'll check it out tonight. May 27 19:48:25 yeah but Linux will not know about your change May 27 19:48:46 you would have to make the change in u-boot, same way you would on a Neo1973 May 27 19:48:59 seriously it's nothing to do with the emulator May 27 19:49:11 try editing the partition layout in openmoko/flash.sh and reflashing May 27 19:49:48 balrog-kun: i do not have a neo/freerunner and i need a closer look before i buy it May 27 19:50:36 balrog-kun: and this asu stuff looks promising May 27 19:51:13 yeah, but i mean to answer your question you don't need anybody who knows qemu May 27 19:51:50 you are correct May 27 19:52:04 its an neo issue May 27 19:52:18 or partition one May 27 19:53:14 but nand and ram looks okay, used instructions from http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-August/001307.html May 27 19:54:23 i'd try the official buildhost images though, because they have been tested to work May 27 19:55:19 never tried them May 27 19:55:48 you mean gta02 images? May 27 19:55:57 malik1972: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Snapshot_review/2008-05-07 May 27 19:57:10 wurp2: official gta01 images work well with the emulator, also underground, scaredycat etc May 27 19:58:27 wurp2: and there is an asu video of kdean06 somewhere in the net May 27 20:00:48 I was just pointing you at the official images... as far as I know there is no official asu image May 27 20:02:23 there are buildhost asu images for gta01 May 27 20:03:49 balrog-kun: where? May 27 20:04:10 malik1972: on the buildhost :) May 27 20:04:19 * balrog-kun scrolls up May 27 20:04:30 balrog-kun: Do you know if anyone has tested them? May 27 20:04:34 19:55 < mmontour> bedboi: try May 27 20:04:34 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080524-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 May 27 20:04:57 I know the regular buildhost images we got before Kevin started testing regularly were broken fairly often... May 27 20:05:18 oookay May 27 20:05:25 wurp2: my guess would be that XorA|gone did when he enabled them in OE on buildhost May 27 20:06:10 * XorA|gone never tested them May 27 20:06:12 * mwester thinks that the GTA01 images are not tested at this moment. May 27 20:06:36 oh, well :p May 27 20:06:40 go on... do the test... May 27 20:06:48 * XorA|gone cant test them May 27 20:06:57 ljp: excellent point May 27 20:07:03 i would but my gta01 is at the office May 27 20:07:15 Of course, testing on the emulator would be very painful for me May 27 20:07:21 i am ure _someone_ will :) May 27 20:07:30 sure, that is May 27 20:07:30 emulator runs astoundingly slowly on my machine May 27 20:07:41 emulator runs slow on any machine May 27 20:07:48 well, it did - I've upgraded since then, it might be usable now May 27 20:07:48 wurp2: use your neo! May 27 20:08:10 ljp: except on my machine and other x86_64 machines :) May 27 20:08:20 where it runs faster than a neo1973 May 27 20:08:21 Well, it took many minutes to start an app. I'm pretty sure it was lots slower for me than most ppl May 27 20:08:31 mwester: Yeah, I would if I were home May 27 20:08:36 No dfu-util here May 27 20:08:48 And, I don't think I really want to run the asu right now :-) May 27 20:09:26 I prefer to let more eager people guinea pig it for me. I wouldn't mind testing it then wiping, but again, no dfu here :-/ May 27 20:10:00 wurp2: to be honest, I went back to the standard GTK-based image after attempting to use it for a while; it needs much more than polish ;) May 27 20:11:02 heh, seems everyone in openmoko community wants someone else to do the work :-) May 27 20:11:20 I think the next thing I try will be Zad/Underground. If I can get a terminal to run on it and something resembling a music player, I'll prolly switch to it May 27 20:11:20 s/openmoko/every/ May 27 20:12:11 XorA|gone: thats the way of open source... May 27 20:12:23 wurp2: i have seen zad live in action May 27 20:12:26 s/open source/humanity/ May 27 20:12:28 come to think of it, thats the way in some businesses as well May 27 20:12:32 malik1972: I ran it on my neo for a while May 27 20:12:45 But I didn't realize that I could opkg install stuff at the time May 27 20:12:54 And basically all it had at the time was a dialer May 27 20:13:26 Qwell: heh May 27 20:13:37 :) Living on the bleeding edge is a relatively solitary lifestyle ;) May 27 20:13:47 malik1972: At the time it was called Underground. I think it's the same thing as Zad... May 27 20:14:09 wurp2: yes May 27 20:14:44 wurp2: since yesterday i know the origins --> the jam, underground song May 27 20:15:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whSYTSXm8wo May 27 20:15:58 work blocks streaming video May 27 20:16:02 but I emailed it to myself May 27 20:17:04 ahh, ok May 27 20:17:49 wurp2: you may download it, convert it to ascii art and play it;-) May 27 20:20:54 malik1972: Well, they block the URLs... I could set up a web proxy to do it for me, but I think I'll just wait until I get off work ;-) May 27 20:21:19 (actually, I suspect they block based on mime-type, but either way...) May 27 20:22:14 * SpeedEvil waits for cb22 to make a youtube-ascii service May 27 21:00:07 good night May 27 21:42:55 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * rb2803e294ac3 10/ophoned/gsm/ (mediator.py unsol.py): May 27 21:42:55 freesmartphone.org: python-ophoned: add CLIP reporting, fix remote hangup timeout, add more InternalErrors instead of asserting/traceback May 27 21:42:55 freesmartphone.org: on server side May 27 22:58:06 i'm trying ASU for gta01 May 27 23:04:24 hello all, does anyone created a web page for a project on projects.openmoko.org? I can't find the Project WWW directory on shell server May 27 23:08:17 ok, i found it May 27 23:20:48 whats the latest build with a working sdcard driver? i can seem to find any May 27 23:27:25 openmoko: 03alphaone * r4455 10/developers/alphaone/u-blox/libubx/ (COPYING ChangeLog src/libubx.c src/ubx-parse.c): May 27 23:27:25 openmoko: LibUBX May 27 23:27:25 openmoko: * COPYING src/libubx.c, src/ubx-parse.c: Add license May 27 23:27:31 openmoko: 03alphaone * r4456 10/developers/alphaone/u-blox/libubx/ (ChangeLog src/Makefile.am src/ubx-get.c): * libubx/src/Makefile.am, libubx/src/ubx-get.c: Add boilerplate code for ubx-get May 27 23:27:44 openmoko: 03alphaone * r4457 10/developers/alphaone/u-blox/libubx/ (ChangeLog include/libubx.h src/libubx.c src/ubx-get.c): May 27 23:27:44 openmoko: * libubx/include/libubx.h, libubx/src/libubx.c: Add funtions for parsing and May 27 23:27:44 openmoko: generating almanac and ephemeris packets. May 27 23:27:44 openmoko: * libubx/src/ubx-get.c: Add support to get almanac from GPS device. May 27 23:34:13 Psi: "working sdcard driver" - do you mean u-boot or the Linux kernel? AFAIK any recent kernel should be fine. May 27 23:34:57 kernel May 27 23:35:42 What problem do you have? Is it a suspend/resume issue, or just normal operation? May 27 23:36:29 the card isnt mounted May 27 23:37:25 device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist May 27 23:38:02 it used to automount on boot, in the 3 recent builds i tried its device isnt even there May 27 23:44:06 Psi: I'm using a kernel from May 21 (built with MokoMakefile) and it sees the card OK. Try looking in your dmesg for any messages about "mmc" or "s3c2410-sdi" May 27 23:44:29 Psi: and remove and reinsert the card May 27 23:44:32 ok, in just restarting to check that the sdcard is actually in the phone properly May 27 23:44:37 in=i'm May 27 23:44:51